BLUMENKOHL 1,068 Posted December 10, 2007 Share Posted December 10, 2007 I mean...his biography clearly states he believed aliens put us here.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,251 Posted December 10, 2007 Share Posted December 10, 2007 Did he really? I don't know much about his biography. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gkgyver 1,645 Posted December 10, 2007 Share Posted December 10, 2007 He had every right to believe aliens put us here.He just realised that his music was so out of this world that there's no other possibility that seemed likely.By the way, believing that aliens put mankind on earth does not automatically make one a scientologist. Am I a scientologist? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ollie 1,059 Posted December 10, 2007 Share Posted December 10, 2007 From what I understand, he followed the Jewish religion. I believe someone had posted at FSM that a Rabbi led the funeral service. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted December 10, 2007 Share Posted December 10, 2007 J'gol is searching for its creator. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Crichton 4 Posted December 10, 2007 Share Posted December 10, 2007 Is that book ever gonna get published? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JWfangirl1992 18 Posted December 10, 2007 Share Posted December 10, 2007 Really? I always thought he followed Pastafarniarism. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted December 10, 2007 Share Posted December 10, 2007 Mmmmm... spaghetti. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeshopk 8 Posted December 10, 2007 Share Posted December 10, 2007 Well, scientology is a lot more than believing aliens made humans. Scientology is a lot more wacked and ridiculous than that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damo 0 Posted December 10, 2007 Share Posted December 10, 2007 Okay. What the ****** are you talking about? Are you talking about Jerry Goldsmith, The film composer? If you referring to Jerry Goldsmith, then No. He is just a great film composer . Look his music for aliens does not mean anything that he a scientologist. You know that some of biographies of a person that you find can be bit false or not quite true. If Jerry Goldsmith was a scientologist he wouldn't be a film composer at all... or maybe he had some interest as a scientologist but he not a scientologist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,333 Posted December 10, 2007 Share Posted December 10, 2007 There have never been any aliens on this planet. Maybe Goldsmith said it while he was promoting some sci-fi flick of which he did the score and someone took it way too seriously. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AI 0 Posted December 10, 2007 Share Posted December 10, 2007 Of course there have been "aliens" on this planet, they were just here many thousands of years ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elmo Lewis 6 Posted December 10, 2007 Share Posted December 10, 2007 Actually, I think Alien would scare Xenu out of his thetans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,333 Posted December 10, 2007 Share Posted December 10, 2007 Goldsmith had a epiphany and saw Aliens fighting Predators on Earth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted December 10, 2007 Share Posted December 10, 2007 I believe the world's globalist elite are in fact lizard people from Zeta Reticuli. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gkgyver 1,645 Posted December 10, 2007 Share Posted December 10, 2007 Well, scientology is a lot more than believing aliens made humans. Scientology is a lot more wacked and ridiculous than that.It's always like that. All groups and religions have found one tiny shred of truth and then cling to it with all the arrogance on this world, and build more and more stories around it until even that shred is lost.But the other way around is sickening as well. When people think they can judge a person's (or many persons') view (that he achieved by work and years of research) based on nothing more than being an ignorant jerk.If you referring to Jerry Goldsmith, then No. He is just a great film composer . Look his music for aliens does not mean anything that he a scientologist.I think you're caught in a mix-up of evaluating a person's abilities, character and beliefs, and for some strange reason think one has something to do with the other.Does Zimmer's Da Vinci Code make him less a Catholic, more a Catholic ...? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted December 10, 2007 Share Posted December 10, 2007 Are you defending Scientology gkgyver? Baring in mind that this thread isn't an attack on Scientology of course. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg1138 3 Posted December 10, 2007 Share Posted December 10, 2007 I personally couldn't give a fart in a hurricane if he was a Scientologist. Tom Cruise is a damn good actor - does being a Scientologist make him any less of a person?This is surely the most basic reason why discussion of Religion is frowned upon on these boards: We all make our own choices and we all have our own beliefs - they do not make us any better or worse as a person. So what if he WAS a Scientologist - does it really matter THAT much??? He was however a fantastic composer - that is the bit that matters, people! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Barnsbury 8 Posted December 10, 2007 Share Posted December 10, 2007 I'm destroying all my Goldsmith CDs as we speak. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ollie 1,059 Posted December 10, 2007 Share Posted December 10, 2007 Again before this thread gets out of hand and locked with silly accusations, I believe he was of Jewish faith. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted December 10, 2007 Share Posted December 10, 2007 A flag of The Star Of David was placed on his coffin, which should be a clue..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morlock 11 Posted December 10, 2007 Share Posted December 10, 2007 There's also one in a mug that he has on his desk in the Karlin doc. Morlock- who was expecting Stefan's usual post pertaining to such matters.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted December 10, 2007 Share Posted December 10, 2007 It is had nothing to do with Religion and Mr Goldsmith was just showing for the Zionists dogs and their ocupation of Palestine.No one's perfect, you know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoldsmithFanatic2000+ 0 Posted December 10, 2007 Share Posted December 10, 2007 Well, that.......... Oh forget it, this thread is ridiculous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pieter Boelen 740 Posted December 10, 2007 Share Posted December 10, 2007 While we're at it: Does anyone know John Williams' religion, if any? My mother was wondering about that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morlock 11 Posted December 10, 2007 Share Posted December 10, 2007 I think he's the Mahesh-Yoga type. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Barnsbury 8 Posted December 10, 2007 Share Posted December 10, 2007 Williams stated years ago in an interview that he wasn't religious, I believe. But I think he's also talked about music being inspired by divinity, so I would guess that he's spiritual without practicing much of an organized religion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marian Schedenig 8,193 Posted December 10, 2007 Share Posted December 10, 2007 Really? I always thought he followed Pastafarniarism.Goldsmith never wrote a pirate score. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morlock 11 Posted December 10, 2007 Share Posted December 10, 2007 He sure seems to like trees, though. Maybe he's a druid? He could pass for 3,000 years old. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted December 10, 2007 Share Posted December 10, 2007 He sure seems to like treas,Treas? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morlock 11 Posted December 10, 2007 Share Posted December 10, 2007 Yes, Treas., short for treasury. He likes treasury. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pieter Boelen 740 Posted December 10, 2007 Share Posted December 10, 2007 Goldsmith never wrote a pirate score.Most unfortunate, as far as I'm concerned Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted December 10, 2007 Share Posted December 10, 2007 Jerry never really did Korngoldian, really. Even First Knight doesn't exactly sound swashbuckling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morlock 11 Posted December 10, 2007 Share Posted December 10, 2007 No, it doesn't. Although the short fanfare was traditional enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted December 10, 2007 Share Posted December 10, 2007 You mean the first track on the CD? It sounds slightly ackward actually.Like Goldsmith was apapting his theme in a mode he did nor originally write it for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morlock 11 Posted December 10, 2007 Share Posted December 10, 2007 I know. There's that (IMO) pretty lame fanfare. Kind of turned me off the score for a little while. Than I got to the real, ass-kickin fanfare, as well as the terrifc action music (including the most imaginative cue to come from Orff-temp tracking) and slightely Barry-esque, but still quite attractive, love theme. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLUMENKOHL 1,068 Posted December 10, 2007 Author Share Posted December 10, 2007 Wow this got more serious responses than I was expecting...'Twas a joke. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted December 10, 2007 Share Posted December 10, 2007 Sure buddy....sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pieter Boelen 740 Posted December 10, 2007 Share Posted December 10, 2007 Jerry never really did Korngoldian, really.There's still the alternate to "The Enterprise" though. That one sounds nicely seafaring-like. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Crichton 4 Posted December 11, 2007 Share Posted December 11, 2007 Perhaps a few posts too late, but still... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ollie 1,059 Posted December 11, 2007 Share Posted December 11, 2007 Better late than never I always say.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romão 2,274 Posted December 11, 2007 Share Posted December 11, 2007 Well, I must say that my favorite JG score is probably Masada, so I would assume his Jewish faith might have helped find the right inspiration. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ollie 1,059 Posted December 11, 2007 Share Posted December 11, 2007 Goldsmith also mentioned one of the films he wished he could have scored was Schindler's List. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted December 11, 2007 Share Posted December 11, 2007 Well, I must say that my favorite JG score is probably Masada, so I would assume his Jewish faith might have helped find the right inspiration.Masada was also one of the few projects he actually went after himself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romão 2,274 Posted December 11, 2007 Share Posted December 11, 2007 And he wrote such a great score. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pieter Boelen 740 Posted December 11, 2007 Share Posted December 11, 2007 Really? I always thought he followed Pastafarniarism.LOL! Thanks for posting that! I checked it out and it's REALLY funny! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melange 446 Posted December 11, 2007 Share Posted December 11, 2007 Jerry's family roots are of Jewish Romanian orgin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gkgyver 1,645 Posted December 13, 2007 Share Posted December 13, 2007 Are you defending Scientology gkgyver? Baring in mind that this thread isn't an attack on Scientology of course.I'm not defending anyone, and certainly not religious groups that claim to have the ultimate truth and others are unworthy peasants.I am, however, always extremely "agitated" when a person has a specific belief (i.e. believing extraterrestrials started human evolution) that happens to be part of another person's or group's belief system that happens to be disrespected by the general public because it happens to be bad-mouthed by the media, and all of a sudden that person is extremely in danger of being marked as a member of that group.I realise this is in some ways a religious discussion and will probably be closed, in the slim chance it will go on in a constructive way (which is extremely unlikely considering the rather immature and naive nature of some people's minds), but since this is a matter that I take very seriously, I will say a few things.I wish people would stop thinking in this way of putting everything into a special, pre-existent category as soon as they heard it. As soon as you exit the classroom and start looking at religious texts and interpretations from an objective point of view, the "knowledge" you get in school can be nothing more than wishful thinking.That certainly holds true for all of the "big" religions.The "Exegese" (don't know English word; interpretations of religious texts) has become so complex that even the most knowledgable experts lost a clear overview. The texts in the Bible have been written down a good 50 years after Jesus died. And since then, they've been translated, re-translated, re-edited and "modernised" countless times. In reality, there's virtually no passage where Jesus is called the messiah verbatim. In the most modern bibles, the name Jesus or Christ has been put when it seemed to fit.The most pretentious thing is that it is said cultures like the Aztecs have their beliefs from Christian missionaries; but these people and their beliefs existed a LONG time before that. And you start to wonder, why is this kind of discussion always surpressed? I know, I know, to not hurt other people's personal feelings. So, is it better to leave them on some sort of fluffy cloud that is bound to disappear when the sky clears up?All big religions have so many paradoxons that it makes anyone's head explode. The dogmatic churches as they exist today are nothing more than a collection of fluffy dreams.Humanity *desparately* needs to let go of pre-determined thinking very quickly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melange 446 Posted December 13, 2007 Share Posted December 13, 2007 disrespected by the general public because it happens to be bad-mouthed by the media, and all of a sudden that person is extremely in danger of being marked as a member of that group.Most 'people' are 'sheeple', unfortunately. Including myself, at times. It's easy to be. Easy to be fed and then led. But I try my hardest to analyse and possibly later challenge and discard any concept I may have adopted (no matter how prescious that concept is held to my heart. Or, how easily I rejected it as a concept). It's a hard way to live, but an honest way to live..............Anyway.......we delivered the bomb. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Breathmask 555 Posted December 14, 2007 Share Posted December 14, 2007 Kablammo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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