indy4 155 Posted October 6, 2008 Share Posted October 6, 2008 There is nothing important in the prequels that needs to be released, they need to go away FOREVER.No. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bryant Burnette 655 Posted October 6, 2008 Share Posted October 6, 2008 There is nothing important in the prequels that needs to be released, they need to go away FOREVER.Perish the thought...!I definitely understand people's disliking/hatred for the prequels. On many, MANY levels, they do not work, not in relation to the original trilogy, and not as a separate trilogy.For me, though, I ultimately enjoy too many of the individual parts to ever want to cast the whole into oblivion. I dislike enough of them that they can never feel like anything but missed opportunities, but in this particular instance, I'm more of a glass-half-full person.Which is odd, because I'm usually the exact opposite.This might also explain how I'm able to very much enjoy The Clones Wars (movie and series alike).In deference to Neil, that is the last I will say about the prequels in this thread. Yessir, can't wait for that Indiana Jones box set... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Parker 3,040 Posted October 6, 2008 Share Posted October 6, 2008 Calamity avoided. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeinAR 1,949 Posted October 6, 2008 Share Posted October 6, 2008 yeah,whatever ,joe.did you order your Indy box set,or you still think they won;t be expanded...now that we have a track list I will get around to ordering it.I think TPM is a very good score,AOTC is a piece of sh!% and ROTS's best parts are from the movie called Star Wars.Course the best parts of KOTCS are from Raiders too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Parker 3,040 Posted October 6, 2008 Share Posted October 6, 2008 The shark is in the water.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hlao-roo 389 Posted October 6, 2008 Share Posted October 6, 2008 yeah,whatever ,joe.did you order your Indy box set,or you still think they won;t be expanded...now that we have a track list I will get around to ordering it.I think TPM is a very good score,AOTC is a piece of sh!% and ROTS's best parts are from the movie called Star Wars.Course the best parts of KOTCS are from Raiders too.Say it ain't so, Joe, there you go again pointing backwards again! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Parker 3,040 Posted October 6, 2008 Share Posted October 6, 2008 You are poking the shark with a stick, now.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeinAR 1,949 Posted October 6, 2008 Share Posted October 6, 2008 all we can do is point backwards Alan since I think we have had our last JW score. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
indy4 155 Posted October 6, 2008 Share Posted October 6, 2008 Please don't bring up this topic, I am not a fan of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bryant Burnette 655 Posted October 6, 2008 Share Posted October 6, 2008 all we can do is point backwards Alan since I think we have had our last JW score.Perish the f--k out of that thought...!I think we'll get another decade's worth of Williams scores, every single one of them to movies directed by Spielberg. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John McClane 1 Posted October 6, 2008 Share Posted October 6, 2008 all we can do is point backwards Alan since I think we have had our last JW score.It's from the beginning of this board (and even before) that Joe keeps posting this kind of things. He's so predictable. However, this is curious: I was browsing the official Indiana Jones store and, this the page related to the box-set. Look at the picture. Do you notice anything? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crumbs 14,367 Posted October 6, 2008 Share Posted October 6, 2008 Bah, prototype artwork. I wouldn't be phased.Us JW Fans must be the most paranoid group on the internet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neimoidian 14 Posted October 6, 2008 Share Posted October 6, 2008 There is nothing important in the prequels that needs to be released, they need to go away FOREVER.There are, especially from AotC! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MissPadmé 17 Posted October 6, 2008 Share Posted October 6, 2008 all we can do is point backwards Alan since I think we have had our last JW score.It's from the beginning of this board (and even before) that Joe keeps posting this kind of things. He's so predictable. However, this is curious: I was browsing the official Indiana Jones store and, this the page related to the box-set. Look at the picture. Do you notice anything? Yes I notice, that it says:5 disc setInterview with John Williams, George Lucas and Steven Spielberg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jessie Lohner 0 Posted October 6, 2008 Share Posted October 6, 2008 No, the bonus CD is missing! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John McClane 1 Posted October 6, 2008 Share Posted October 6, 2008 Yes I notice, that it says:5 disc setInterview with John Williams, George Lucas and Steven SpielbergThat wasn't to be noticed in the picture. OK, it's obvious that the material it's identical, but it's weird that the picture it's different than in other places, since it's the official Indy store. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MissPadmé 17 Posted October 6, 2008 Share Posted October 6, 2008 No, the bonus CD is missing! relax girl, just in the picture.. I bet the stuff on the bonus disk is soo great, that someone couldn'r resist and took it to his home to listen to the cue: "Iskenderun street music"So it wasn't there when THIS picture was made Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TownerFan 4,991 Posted October 6, 2008 Share Posted October 6, 2008 THis appeared over at the FSM board:Just found this track list for the 5th disc on Tower Records website.I don't know how accurate it is;1 Raiders March (from Raiders of the Lost Ark) 2 Interviews with John Williams,Steven Spielberg and George Lucas, Hosted by Laurent Bouzereau - (featuring Steven Spielberg/George Lucas/John Williams) 3 Uncovering the Ark (from Raiders of the Lost Ark) 4 Indy and the Villagers (from Temple of Doom) 5 Secret Passage, The (from Temple of Doom) 6 Father's Study (from Last Crusade) 7 Marcus Is Captured/To Berlin (from Last Crusade) 8 To the Blimp (from Last Crusade) * 9 Blimp Turns Around, The (from Last Crusade) 10 Death of Kazim (from Last Crusade) 11 Wrong Choice, Right Choice (from Last Crusade) 12 Return to the Village/Raiders March (From Temple Of Doom)If this is the case, I'm very happy! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,631 Posted October 6, 2008 Share Posted October 6, 2008 OMG the set is perfect Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TownerFan 4,991 Posted October 6, 2008 Share Posted October 6, 2008 Temple of Doom End Credits film version... YES! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,631 Posted October 6, 2008 Share Posted October 6, 2008 They even left out all the cues I would have dropped ! No Mummy Cave, no Khali Blood Ritual/Indy Possessed,no Into the Catacombs and Papa Jones is Shot .In other words, only the most unimportant cues aren't on the set Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TownerFan 4,991 Posted October 6, 2008 Share Posted October 6, 2008 Maybe Bouzereau read this thread Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,631 Posted October 6, 2008 Share Posted October 6, 2008 We better do what this King Mark says ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TownerFan 4,991 Posted October 6, 2008 Share Posted October 6, 2008 Or maybe King Mark secretly worked as JWFan consultant for the release... p.s.: we're now sure that "On the Tank" is actually "The Pen is Mightier than Sword" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crumbs 14,367 Posted October 6, 2008 Share Posted October 6, 2008 HOLY SMOKES!!! This IS IT!!!! The tracklist for Disk 5!!! No sign of 'The Wrong Chalice' or ToD's 'Finale and End Credits', but there's some other gems in here waiting to be explored!Total time: 74:261. The Raiders March (ROTLA) (5.21)2. Steven Spielberg reveals how two Indiana Jones themes became one (5:20)3. Paramount Pictures Logo (KOTCS) (0:23)4. George Lucas on Williams' music in his 'silent movies' (11:21)5. Orellana's Cradle [Film Version] (KOTCS) (3:23)6. John Williams also reveals how two Indiana Jones theme became one, with excerpts of The Raiders March (13:21)7. George Lucas & Steven Spielberg Duet - The Raiders March (whistled, including excerpts of Secret Doors & Scorpions [KOTCS] and Paramount Pictures Logo [KOTCS]) (17:46)8. The Raiders March (as performed by the Prague Philharmonic) (5.32)9. Paramount Pictures Logo [Alternate] (KOTCS) (0:25)10. Secret Doors & Scorpions [Complete] (KOTCS) (6:23)11. Indian Chants / Paramount Pictures [TLC] (0:13)12. The Raiders March [Encore] (ROTLA) (5.21) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neimoidian 14 Posted October 6, 2008 Share Posted October 6, 2008 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TownerFan 4,991 Posted October 6, 2008 Share Posted October 6, 2008 In case someone missed the post in the previous page, you can find the track listing of Disc 5 HERE. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,631 Posted October 6, 2008 Share Posted October 6, 2008 lolbut just too late for the joke crumbsBetter repost the presumed real one:Disk 51 Raiders March (from Raiders of the Lost Ark)2 Interviews with John Williams,Steven Spielberg and George Lucas, Hosted by Laurent Bouzereau - (featuring Steven Spielberg/George Lucas/John Williams)3 Uncovering the Ark (from Raiders of the Lost Ark)4 Indy and the Villagers (from Temple of Doom)5 Secret Passage, The (from Temple of Doom)6 Father's Study (from Last Crusade)7 Marcus Is Captured/To Berlin (from Last Crusade)8 To the Blimp (from Last Crusade) *9 Blimp Turns Around, The (from Last Crusade)10 Death of Kazim (from Last Crusade)11 Wrong Choice, Right Choice (from Last Crusade)12 Return to the Village/Raiders March (From Temple Of Doom)okok,I don't want to nitpick,but I hope Indy and the Villagers is a merge of all the village cues Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crumbs 14,367 Posted October 6, 2008 Share Posted October 6, 2008 That's ironic, I started typing up and posted my joke list before the actual list was posted. Anyway, it's official, the set *is* perfection. There isn't a single missing cue that I'm losing sleep over. Thank you Laurent and Concord! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neimoidian 14 Posted October 6, 2008 Share Posted October 6, 2008 I wish there was some music from KotCS too. I didn't expect it, though... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TownerFan 4,991 Posted October 6, 2008 Share Posted October 6, 2008 It would appear (unless the interviews are 20+ minutes, which is unlikely imho) that the CD is not maxed out at 77-80 minutes. However, the choice of the tracks is great, they indeed left out only some minor incidental cues (I hope the cue "Indy and the Villagers" will include also "They Stole the Children"). I never expected to see unreleased stuff from KOTCS here, so I will not complain about that.This project is now identical to the Star Wars Anthology boxset, so it's likely we'll see 2-CD sets of all four scores in the not too distant future. However, I'll enjoy this one a lot now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,631 Posted October 6, 2008 Share Posted October 6, 2008 I've listened to some of the KotCS DVD rips,and honestly apart from the complete Jungle Chase there's not much else. The warehouse escape is pretty generic stuff.I am 100% happy with that track list even if they don't ever release complete scores to ToD and LC down the line.I am soooooooooo happy the ToD Film Version Finale made it Missing Cues:The Mummy Cave (Raiders)One of the ToD village cue?The Feast(ToD)Captured/The Cage/Khali Blood Ritual/Indy PossessedPackage from Dad ?Legend of the Grail ?Into the CatacombsNazi Stronghold?Professor Jones is Shot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neimoidian 14 Posted October 6, 2008 Share Posted October 6, 2008 I've listened to some of the KotCS DVD rips,and honestly apart from the complete Jungle Chase there's not much else. The warehouse escape is pretty generic stuff.(...)I would like to have that cue anyway... That, 'the Russians entering the Area 51' cue, the complete Jungle Chase, Mutt's introduction, disappearing stairs and the cue from the penultimate scene when we see Broadbend running through corridor... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crumbs 14,367 Posted October 6, 2008 Share Posted October 6, 2008 Give me half an hour to work out exactly what will remain unreleased, just so everyone can come to grips that it's NOTHING worth crying over. This set is DAMN PERFECT. Man, I can't wait to hear the cue when Indy climbs back over the bridge, and that perfect segue into the Raiders March.As for KOTCS, we're certain the DVD has a SFX free version of Warehouse Escape in the bonus features. We can assemble a complete Jungle Chase with some clever editing, and minimal SFX. Also, if this box set sells well enough, I wouldn't rule out complete scores down the line. It IS Lucasfilm...The Russians breaking into Area 51 is pretty much a perfect quality rip. No SFX except maybe some engines whirring. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin McCallister 0 Posted October 6, 2008 Share Posted October 6, 2008 7 Marcus Is Captured/To Berlin (from Last Crusade)Is this a combination of "Escape in the Truck" and "Blasphemy/The Road to Berlin"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,631 Posted October 6, 2008 Share Posted October 6, 2008 Man, I can't wait to hear the cue when Indy climbs back over the bridge, and that perfect segue into the Raiders March.I knew I wasn't the only one Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crumbs 14,367 Posted October 6, 2008 Share Posted October 6, 2008 Boy, wouldn't it be funny if it wasn't included in either 'British Relief' or 'Return to the Village'? No, it wouldn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,726 Posted October 6, 2008 Share Posted October 6, 2008 If this tracklist is indeed correct then this is perfect!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TownerFan 4,991 Posted October 6, 2008 Share Posted October 6, 2008 Temple of Doom is virtually complete, it appears only "A True Believer" aka "Blood of Khali" is missing and maybe a few of the starving village cues. Last Crusade is missing "Secret Entrance", "Into the Catacombs", "Keeping Up with the Joneses" film version and "Papa Jones is Shot" (plus alternates and source music).Well, I think no one can really complain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,631 Posted October 6, 2008 Share Posted October 6, 2008 well,there is that cue where Donovan explains the legend of the grail ,unless that's combined with Father's Study Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neimoidian 14 Posted October 6, 2008 Share Posted October 6, 2008 Temple of Doom is virtually complete, it appears only "A True Believer" aka "Blood of Khali" is missing and maybe a few of the starving village cues. Last Crusade is missing "Secret Entrance", "Into the Catacombs", "Keeping Up with the Joneses" film version and "Papa Jones is Shot" (plus alternates and source music).Well, I think no one can really complain.As far as the first three are concerned, no I am so glad that finally we're gettin a proper release! I can't wait for having it finally in my hands. It'll be like a second Christmas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TownerFan 4,991 Posted October 6, 2008 Share Posted October 6, 2008 I was thinking about the cue "To the Blimp" (aka "First Flight to Germany" aka "Berlin Air Terminal"): it is of course the cue when Indy and Henry board on the Zeppelin, but on the boot it is preceded by an ominous passage which I believe is Williams' original take of the sequence when Hitler signs Henry's diary, while in the film that moment is underscored just with timpani and snare, seguing perfectly in and out the "Koniggrazter" march. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,631 Posted October 6, 2008 Share Posted October 6, 2008 Hopefully Marcus is Captured is Escape in the Truck (and not Iskerendun) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crumbs 14,367 Posted October 6, 2008 Share Posted October 6, 2008 I thought I'd compile all the officially released cues by film, to keep everything together:RAIDERS OF THE LOST ARK1 Raiders March2 In the Jungle 3 Idol Temple, The 4 Escape from the Temple 5 Flight from Peru 6 Washington Men/Indy's Home* 7 Thought for Marion/To Nepal, A 8 Medallion, The 9 Flight to Cairo 10 Basket Game, The 11 Bad Dates (Includes "The Poisoning?")* 12 Map Room: Dawn, The 13 Reunion in the Tent/Searching for the Well 14 Well of the Souls, The 15 Uncovering the Ark*16 Indy Rides the Statue* 17 Fist Fight/The Flying Wing, The 18 Desert Chase 19 Marion's Theme/The Crate 20 German Sub, The 21 Ride to the Nazi Hideout 22 Indy Follows the Ark 23 Miracle of the Ark, The 24 Washington Ending & Raiders March TEMPLE OF DOOM1 Anything Goes 2 Indy Negotiates* 3 Nightclub Brawl, The* 4 Fast Streets of Shanghai 5 Map/Out of Fuel* 6 Slalom on Mt. Humol 7 Indy and the Villagers (Includes "They Stole The Children", "Fortune and Glory"?)*8 Short Round's Theme 9 Scroll/To Pankot Palace, The* 10 Nocturnal Activities 11 The Secret Passage*12 Bug Tunnel/Death Trap 13 Approaching the Stones* 14 Children in Chains 15 Temple of Doom, The 16 Short Round Escapes* 17 Saving Willie* 18 Slave Children's Crusade 19 Short Round Helps* 20 Mine Car Chase, The 21 Water!* 22 Sword Trick, The* 23 Broken Bridge/British Relief, The* 24 Return to the Village, End Credits/Raiders March*LAST CRUSADE1 Indy's Very First Adventure / Dunn & Duffy Circus Train** 2 Boat Scene, The* 3 Father's Study*4 X Marks the Spot 5 Ah, Rats!!! 6 Escape from Venice 7 Journey to Austria* 8 Father and Son Reunited* 9 Marcus is Captured / To Berlin (is "To Berlin" actually "Blasphemy, The Road To Berlin"?)*10 Austrian Way, The * 11 Alarm!* 12 Scherzo for Motorcycle and Orchestra 13 To The Blimp (Berlin Air Terminal)*14 No Ticket 15 The Blimp Turns Around (Biplane Escape)*16 Keeping Up With the Joneses 17 Brother of the Cruciform Sword 18 Death of Kazim (Death of a Messenger From God)*19 On the Tank (Pen is Mightier Than The Sword)* 20 Belly of the Steel Beast 21 Canyon of the Crescent Moon, The 22 Penitent Man Will Pass, The 23 Keeper of the Grail, The 24 Wrong Choice, Right Choice (The Wrong Chalice / Power of the Grail)*25 Finale & End Credits Seems a very, very respectable addition of long-craved cues to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oierem 165 Posted October 6, 2008 Share Posted October 6, 2008 ABSOLUTELY GREAT!!!!!!Can someone figure out how many minutes of music will still be unreleased? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TownerFan 4,991 Posted October 6, 2008 Share Posted October 6, 2008 I'll count every day until this is released... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crumbs 14,367 Posted October 6, 2008 Share Posted October 6, 2008 It's virtually impossible to know exactly how much remains unreleased. There could be any number of alternates, source cues which were dropped, inserts, tracks cues, multiple takes, etc. To compile "complete recordings" of any score would take up hours and hours of music. The most we should realistically strive to receive are the film versions of cues, and as many of them as possible.Generally speaking though, we're really only missing source music. But who really wants to hear Donovan's party, Shanghai Night Club or Iskenderun? The German March (Der Krozzinger) music is in perfect sound quality on the boot anyway (including an alternate), so I'm glad that wasn't included. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,631 Posted October 6, 2008 Share Posted October 6, 2008 Well ,the only thing that still nags me slightly is Short Rounds Helps .I mean it HAS to be Underground Heroics...but...We need track times now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crumbs 14,367 Posted October 6, 2008 Share Posted October 6, 2008 It's definitely Underground Heroics. The whole sequence is basically just Shorty...helping. From stopping the Mararajah's voodoo toy, to kicking the Thuggees in the groins, to saving Willie from being attacked, to getting the mine cart moving and *attempting* to send it down the right mine shaft.This doesn't even take into account that it's the only cue that fits between 'Slave Children's Crusade' and 'Mine Cart Chase'. It couldn't be anything else.Plus, so far everything has ended up being pleasingly positive with this set. I'm prepared to stay optimistic about this now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,631 Posted October 6, 2008 Share Posted October 6, 2008 Unless Concord's pressing plant burns down or declares bankrupcy before nov 11I bet a lot of people are not checking the thread now.Oh,it's just K.M. rambling on again.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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