Datameister 2,043 Posted January 16, 2009 Share Posted January 16, 2009 I consider E.T. and Indiana Jones & the Temple of Doom to be true, 5-star scores. There are a great number of 4.5-star runners up though, including SW: A New Home and Raiders of the Lost ArkHow can Raiders of the Lost Ark receive anything less than 5 stars? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,251 Posted January 16, 2009 Share Posted January 16, 2009 Heartbeeps(Yes )I love that score too, I was tempted to go on and on with my list, but kept it short. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted January 16, 2009 Share Posted January 16, 2009 Variation is part of the game. You want to sit in that chair?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sandor 797 Posted January 16, 2009 Share Posted January 16, 2009 JawsStar WarsClose Encounters Of The Third KindSupermanThe Empire Strikes BackRaiders Of The Lost ArkE.T.Jurassic ParkSchindler's ListHarry Potter And The Sorcerer's StoneThe 10 best scores of John Williams' career. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh500 1,615 Posted January 16, 2009 Share Posted January 16, 2009 every Star Wars scoreE.T.the 3 original Indy scoresJurassic ParkJawsSchindler's ListHome AloneMemoirsA.I.every Harry Potter scoreThat's it!Oh yeah, and I should probably mention, with very few exceptions every other JW score gets a 4.5 from me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romão 2,274 Posted January 16, 2009 Share Posted January 16, 2009 The weird thing about Merkel's list is not really that is long (I'm sure a lot o people here love all of Williams's scores) but that it's missing some of what many would consider the best (SW, Jaws, Superman, Raiders).they are too Americana for himI guess SW is much more American than Amistad or Saving Private Ryan.It's a very honest list on my part. Star Wars, Jaws, Superman, Raiders are all fantastic scores. no doubt. But they do not represent the pinacle of JW's abilities (specially not Superman, which has fantastic 40 minutes and then drags terribly), in my very humble opinion. I consider the scores I listed to be truly special and each demonstrate a somewhat unique side to Williams' music. As with any artist, his most well know work is not necesarly his best. Besides, we should welcome diversity on this boards. The whole "John Williams wrote Jaws, Star Wars, Superman, Indy, Harry potter and the rest" gets boring. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elmo Lewis 6 Posted January 16, 2009 Share Posted January 16, 2009 E.T. the Extra-TerrestrialDamn you, Alan. Stealing my idea before it occurs to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nicholas 1 Posted January 16, 2009 Share Posted January 16, 2009 I'd say (roughly in order):Angela's AshesSchindler's ListClose EncountersHookStar WarsEmpire Strikes BackThe FuryMunichJane EyreWar of the Worlds (yes, seriously...)And all the other great ones I've forgotten...Funnily enough, the Indy and Harry Potter scores, seeming mainly to consist of 'action' music, don't do it so much for me, although I LOVE (and couldn't live without) "Fawkes the Phoenix" and "Window to the Past"... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wojo 2,453 Posted January 16, 2009 Share Posted January 16, 2009 I've missed the point of nothing. The music is all awesome. But saying one score is 5 stars and another is 4.5 stars and polling to compare a great score to a crappy score is just:and that's the point that's being missed here. If all the scores are five star scores, then none of the scores are five star scores. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted January 16, 2009 Share Posted January 16, 2009 SW: A New HomeReal estate amongst the stars eh? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romão 2,274 Posted January 16, 2009 Share Posted January 16, 2009 John Williams has written over 90 scores. I listed 25 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,533 Posted January 16, 2009 Share Posted January 16, 2009 Jane EyreClose EncountersEmpire Strikes BackE.TReturn of the JediEmpire of the SunIndiana Jones and the Last CrusadeHookSchindler's ListJurassic ParkSabrinaSleepersSeven Years in TibetAmistadSaving Private RyanThe Phantom MenaceAngela's AshesA.IMinority ReportPrisoner of AzkabanRevenge of the SithWar of the WorldsMemoirs of a GeishaMunichKIngdom of the Crystal SkullHold on, that's almost everything he's ever done! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted January 16, 2009 Share Posted January 16, 2009 Jane EyreClose EncountersEmpire Strikes BackE.TReturn of the JediEmpire of the SunIndiana Jones and the Last CrusadeHookSchindler's ListJurassic ParkSabrinaSleepersSeven Years in TibetAmistadSaving Private RyanThe Phantom MenaceAngela's AshesA.IMinority ReportPrisoner of AzkabanRevenge of the SithWar of the WorldsMemoirs of a GeishaMunichKIngdom of the Crystal SkullHold on, that's almost everything he's ever done!All except for Star Wars. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,533 Posted January 16, 2009 Share Posted January 16, 2009 For me, the truely 5-star scores are: "Images","C.E.3.K.","Superman","...Empire...","Raiders...",and "E.T.", however every-EVERY-score that John Williams has composed has, for me, something of interest. Most of his scores I give in-between 3, and 4.5., but the scores mentioned above not only represent a personal best, but are also supreme examples of his art.Jane EyreClose EncountersEmpire Strikes BackE.TReturn of the JediEmpire of the SunIndiana Jones and the Last CrusadeHookSchindler's ListJurassic ParkSabrinaSleepersSeven Years in TibetAmistadSaving Private RyanThe Phantom MenaceAngela's AshesA.IMinority ReportPrisoner of AzkabanRevenge of the SithWar of the WorldsMemoirs of a GeishaMunichKIngdom of the Crystal SkullHold on, that's almost everything he's ever done!All except for Star Wars.Oh, yeah. Any particular reason for that, as most people seem to like it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romão 2,274 Posted January 16, 2009 Share Posted January 16, 2009 I love it, I just don't give it an absolute 5 star rating. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted January 16, 2009 Share Posted January 16, 2009 Yeah, all that Tatooine stuff is pretty boring. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romão 2,274 Posted January 16, 2009 Share Posted January 16, 2009 Actually, the Tatooine stuff is the pinacle of the score Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted January 16, 2009 Share Posted January 16, 2009 Fascinating. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romão 2,274 Posted January 16, 2009 Share Posted January 16, 2009 I don't see what you're getting at Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,533 Posted January 16, 2009 Share Posted January 16, 2009 Sorry, peeps, I've just thought of two more: "The Witches Of Eastwick", and "Empire Of The Sun". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeinAR 1,949 Posted January 16, 2009 Author Share Posted January 16, 2009 What exactly are John's 5 star scores in your opinion.Merkel you might as well have listed the ones you don't consider 5 star, I'm sorry but all those scores are not equal to each other, and it really is an insult to his truly great scores to lump so many avg. ones in with the great ones :spiny:The weird thing about Merkel's list is not really that is long (I'm sure a lot o people here love all of Williams's scores) but that it's missing some of what many would consider the best (SW, Jaws, Superman, Raiders).they are too Americana for himOf course, it's an anti-American issue! After all, nothing says "Americana" like Star Wars.Henry Buck you're being a stupid **** , Star Wars isn't Americana, nor is Amistad or SPR. Superman is however. My comments had nothing to do with anti american sentiment, but your pea brain didn't know the difference. You're making something out of this that isnt there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scissorhands 16 Posted January 16, 2009 Share Posted January 16, 2009 You need to listen to more Copland, Joey. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romão 2,274 Posted January 16, 2009 Share Posted January 16, 2009 Amistad isn't Americana???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeinAR 1,949 Posted January 16, 2009 Author Share Posted January 16, 2009 I have alot of Copeland Peio, he is the father of Americana. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scissorhands 16 Posted January 16, 2009 Share Posted January 16, 2009 And Amistad and SPR have some of their roots in Copland. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pixie_twinkle 48 Posted January 16, 2009 Share Posted January 16, 2009 The absolute 5-Star scores for me are:Star WarsThe Empire Strikes BackRaiders of the Lost ArkE.T.That's it. If I'm really honest those are the 4 scores that I absolutely cannot fault. There are three scores that come very close:Superman: The MovieJawsSchindler's List Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Skywalker 1,795 Posted January 16, 2009 Share Posted January 16, 2009 What exactly are John's 5 star scores in your opinion.Merkel you might as well have listed the ones you don't consider 5 star, I'm sorry but all those scores are not equal to each other, and it really is an insult to his truly great scores to lump so many avg. ones in with the great ones :spiny:Don't nitpick Joe, he doesnt like it Anybody need my services? do you have experience? If so when, where, and most interestingly HOW?I've always suspected Luke might be one of an estimated dozen serial killers in SpainI got a degree that entitles me to do that.I have done it once. Early this year, in a rehabilitation center, with an injection of pentothal. It was heavily injured stork (beyond rehabilitation..) AND I AM NOT A SERIAL KILLER! Seriously. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hlao-roo 389 Posted January 16, 2009 Share Posted January 16, 2009 I have alot of Copeland Peio, he is the father of Americana.Stewart? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diego 21 Posted January 16, 2009 Share Posted January 16, 2009 It's a very honest list on my part. Star Wars, Jaws, Superman, Raiders are all fantastic scores. no doubt. But they do not represent the pinacle of JW's abilities (specially not Superman, which has fantastic 40 minutes and then drags terribly), in my very humble opinion. I consider the scores I listed to be truly special and each demonstrate a somewhat unique side to Williams' music. As with any artist, his most well know work is not necesarly his best. Besides, we should welcome diversity on this boards. The whole "John Williams wrote Jaws, Star Wars, Superman, Indy, Harry potter and the rest" gets boring.I kinda disagree, I think his best stuff is the most well known, IMO nothing beats Star Wars or Superman for example. Anyway, I welcome diversity, and I could see how someone could like Schindler's List and not Star Wars, but the curious thing about your list is that KOTCS and ROTS are on it but not Raiders and Star Wars, which I think are much, much better scores. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeinAR 1,949 Posted January 16, 2009 Author Share Posted January 16, 2009 they are much better scores. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romão 2,274 Posted January 16, 2009 Share Posted January 16, 2009 As I said, it's my honest opinion. KOTCS and ROTS are , in my humble opinion, better scores than Raiders and Star Wars. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeinAR 1,949 Posted January 16, 2009 Author Share Posted January 16, 2009 as long as you've posted, I just don't see how you can believe that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romão 2,274 Posted January 16, 2009 Share Posted January 16, 2009 I really don't see why it is so hard to believe. It's pretty clear to me when I listen to the scores. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wojo 2,453 Posted January 16, 2009 Share Posted January 16, 2009 Yea, even a deaf person can hear the difference... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hlao-roo 389 Posted January 16, 2009 Share Posted January 16, 2009 To rehash a Twain (or Nye) quip, Revenge of the Sith and Kingdom of the Crystal Skull are better than they sound. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wojo 2,453 Posted January 16, 2009 Share Posted January 16, 2009 Yes, and a dog eats cat poop, what's your point? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hlao-roo 389 Posted January 16, 2009 Share Posted January 16, 2009 Yes, and a dog eats cat poop, what's your point?On top of my head.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scissorhands 16 Posted January 16, 2009 Share Posted January 16, 2009 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ollie 1,059 Posted January 16, 2009 Share Posted January 16, 2009 Damn, and here I am without my proper avatar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Parker 3,040 Posted January 16, 2009 Share Posted January 16, 2009 Well, it was not as if you could expect them or anything.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henry B 50 Posted January 16, 2009 Share Posted January 16, 2009 Henry Buck you're being a stupid **** , Star Wars isn't Americana, nor is Amistad or SPR. Superman is however. My comments had nothing to do with anti american sentiment, but your pea brain didn't know the difference. You're making something out of this that isnt there.I'm sorry that I made assumptions based on your habit of turning everything into an issue of patriotism. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
indy4 155 Posted January 17, 2009 Share Posted January 17, 2009 as long as you've posted, I just don't see how you can believe that.Huh? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hlao-roo 389 Posted January 17, 2009 Share Posted January 17, 2009 as long as you've posted, I just don't see how you can believe that.Huh?Huh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted January 17, 2009 Share Posted January 17, 2009 Star WarsSupermanThe Empire Strikes BackRaiders of the Lost ArkE.T. The Extra-TerrestrialReturn of the JediIndiana Jones and the Temple of DoomHook Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeinAR 1,949 Posted January 17, 2009 Author Share Posted January 17, 2009 as long as you've posted, I just don't see how you can believe that.Huh?you're not the brightest star in the universe are you! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacob 0 Posted January 17, 2009 Share Posted January 17, 2009 I have done it once. Early this year, in a rehabilitation center, with an injection of pentothal. It was heavily injured stork (beyond rehabilitation..) You had me worried for second there until you mentioned it was a stork. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,251 Posted January 17, 2009 Share Posted January 17, 2009 as long as you've posted, I just don't see how you can believe that.Huh?He's talking about how long Merkel has been a member. See Joe thinks all the newer members are the idiots while the original 02 members are the greatest posters alive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeinAR 1,949 Posted January 17, 2009 Author Share Posted January 17, 2009 not true at all Koray, I do hold you higher than Indy4 believe it or not. As to the original 02 members, most were here before this version of the board. Original doesn't quite seem the right word. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red 75 Posted January 17, 2009 Share Posted January 17, 2009 as long as you've posted, I just don't see how you can believe that.Huh?He's talking about how long Merkel has been a member. See Joe thinks all the newer members are the idiots while the original 02 members are the greatest posters alive.Yeah, but can you really blame him? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Datameister 2,043 Posted January 17, 2009 Share Posted January 17, 2009 Yep. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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