Jacob 0 Posted November 22, 2009 Share Posted November 22, 2009 Quick question...In Raiders, what does Marion call Toht when he throws her into the pit, "Get your hands off me you slimy [inaudible]"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wojo 2,453 Posted November 22, 2009 Share Posted November 22, 2009 I think that in the case of classical music, I may have to use the Artist, Album Artist, and Composer fields backwards by intentional design.For instance, Disney's Fantasia, by all rights a film score, but also a decent cross-section sampler of classical music. Leopold Stokowski conducted the Philadelphia Orchestra, sure, but I wouldn't make him the artist. I'm more interested to see who wrote each particular piece, Beethoven, Bach, Stravinksy, et al, since the rest of my classical music collection is sorted with the composer as the artist, since it's way too much work to add all that info, if I can even determine it, to the tags, and I rarely have more than one or two clip of each piece (except the common ones, like LVB #5 or PYT 1812). So in this case, the "Artist" tag would be the composer, and the "Composer" tag would be the conductor. Maybe the Album Artist would be Stokowski, but I have no other Stokowski that I know of. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,251 Posted November 22, 2009 Share Posted November 22, 2009 I don't even bother putting the conductor or orchestra, just the composer. Artist and Composer are the same in my library, unless they're songs, in which the artist would be the band and the composer would be who wrote it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wojo 2,453 Posted November 22, 2009 Share Posted November 22, 2009 Now I can see it being relevant for albums like soundtrack re-recordings, of which I have many. Gerhardt's Star Wars Trilogy, Gerhardt's Casablanca, the Utah Symphony's Star Wars, Tadlow's El Cid and Exodus, and Morgan Stromberg's King Kong, Sea Hawk/Deception, Robin Hood, and Treasure of the Sierra Madre. Even Alien (which I don't own yet) was not conducted by Goldsmith. I believe that I've been setting the original composer the Artist, and the re-recording team as the Composer. I think it all boils down to what do I think is most interesting when I press play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ollie 1,059 Posted November 22, 2009 Share Posted November 22, 2009 For re-recordings I just put the original composer's name in the artist field.As I mentioned before, one of these days I might sit down and redo it by fixing the album artist field. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BurgaFlippinMan 7 Posted November 23, 2009 Share Posted November 23, 2009 Now I can see it being relevant for albums like soundtrack re-recordings, of which I have many. Gerhardt's Star Wars Trilogy, Gerhardt's Casablanca, the Utah Symphony's Star Wars, Tadlow's El Cid and Exodus, and Morgan Stromberg's King Kong, Sea Hawk/Deception, Robin Hood, and Treasure of the Sierra Madre. Even Alien (which I don't own yet) was not conducted by Goldsmith. I believe that I've been setting the original composer the Artist, and the re-recording team as the Composer. I think it all boils down to what do I think is most interesting when I press play.for rerecordings I put the rerecording conductor in parentheses in the Album field, e.g. Superman: The Movie (John Debney Re-recording), original composer in the Artist field and conductor and orchestra in the Lyrics field (so I can see the info on my iPod, because the album text doesn't scroll in the Now Playing screen.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wojo 2,453 Posted November 23, 2009 Share Posted November 23, 2009 Now Lyrics is a tag I never thought to use. I have been adding info like this to a blend of Composer and Comments tag, like the date a specific concert occurred on, though I don't think Comments show up on an iPod.Now I just need to find a way to transfer information from one tag value to another, say from Comments to Lyrics. MP3tag works much like an Excel spreadsheet, but I don't know how to do mass changes without going out to the filename and back into the tag, or export to a text file, adjust the columns, and re-import. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BurgaFlippinMan 7 Posted November 23, 2009 Share Posted November 23, 2009 I use Tagscanner (freeware) to do just about everything I need to do with ID3 tags. the Comments field does not show up in the iPod, but the Lyrics does (press center button in the Now Playing screen a few times, it will appear after the Shuffle Options tab) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wojo 2,453 Posted November 23, 2009 Share Posted November 23, 2009 I'll give it a try. I think it's on my LiberKey stick. I tried MediaMonkey but really didn't care for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Brigden 7 Posted November 25, 2009 Share Posted November 25, 2009 Ignore this, they perform under William Stromberg obviously. I'm an idiot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wojo 2,453 Posted November 25, 2009 Share Posted November 25, 2009 ...Morgan Stromberg's King Kong, Sea Hawk/Deception, Robin Hood, and Treasure of the Sierra Madre...No, Charlie, I'm the...how would you English put it...idiot.I subconsciously combined John Morgan and William Stromberg into one person. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ollie 1,059 Posted November 25, 2009 Share Posted November 25, 2009 Ahh John William Morgan Stromberg.Yeah I get him mixed up with the both of them all the time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BurgaFlippinMan 7 Posted November 25, 2009 Share Posted November 25, 2009 btw, do you guys have Kunzel as an artist? He's the only rerecording conductor I actually fill into the Artist tag/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Brigden 7 Posted November 25, 2009 Share Posted November 25, 2009 btw, do you guys have Kunzel as an artist? He's the only rerecording conductor I actually fill into the Artist tag/I have Gerhardt and Kunzel as artist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diego 21 Posted November 25, 2009 Share Posted November 25, 2009 I do as well. I'm a big fan of Kunzel in particular, since his recordings introduced me to a lot of great non-Williams scores. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wojo 2,453 Posted November 25, 2009 Share Posted November 25, 2009 I have Gerhardt and Kunzel as artist.I can see value in this, because when you have so many versions of Star Wars music on an iPod, this would make it quicker to identify which performance you were listening to. If you have to ask yourself "is this John Williams" at this point... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Brigden 7 Posted November 25, 2009 Share Posted November 25, 2009 I have Gerhardt and Kunzel as artist.I can see value in this, because when you have so many versions of Star Wars music on an iPod, this would make it quicker to identify which performance you were listening to. If you have to ask yourself "is this John Williams" at this point...Especially when the majority of Gerhardt's albums are called "The Classic Film Scores of..."How come Princess and the Frog gets a CD release when all the other recent Disney soundtracks have been MP3 only? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ollie 1,059 Posted November 25, 2009 Share Posted November 25, 2009 I wonder if it has something to do with how well the albums sell, when songs are included. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Brigden 7 Posted November 25, 2009 Share Posted November 25, 2009 I wonder if it has something to do with how well the albums sell, when songs are included.That's probably a good guess. Incidentally, Randy Newman's site says Disney are streaming the full soundtrack.On another note, the broken up tracks on BATMAN RETURNS are really, really annoying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wojo 2,453 Posted November 25, 2009 Share Posted November 25, 2009 Ok, they streamed the whole soundtrack. Don't they realize why so many people use Firefox and DownloadHelper? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Penna 3,694 Posted November 25, 2009 Share Posted November 25, 2009 On another note, the broken up tracks on BATMAN RETURNS are really, really annoying.Why do they do that on CDs?Ice Age 3 is horrendously split up, with many crescendos falling exactly between two tracks. I know they want to make it easy to find bits, but 13 second tracks are completely unnecessary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demondm810 399 Posted November 29, 2009 Share Posted November 29, 2009 Quick Question: Does anyone know of a complete cue/score analysis for John Williams' Minority Report (either on this forum or another site?) It's one of my favorite scores, and I want to put it in film order, etc. Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ollie 1,059 Posted November 29, 2009 Share Posted November 29, 2009 You might wanna check this thread at the top of the page:http://jwfan.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=5544&st=0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wojo 2,453 Posted November 30, 2009 Share Posted November 30, 2009 Except Minority Report is not in that list. Those are nice big words, though, it should be easy to run a search for dedicated threads. It's not looking for threads devoted to E.T. or A.I. or even El Cid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ollie 1,059 Posted November 30, 2009 Share Posted November 30, 2009 It's not?I thought I had saw it in that thread, I know it's somewhere on this board. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Parker 3,040 Posted November 30, 2009 Share Posted November 30, 2009 I made that Minority Report Thread over the summer, and I think the chronological order was discussed...EDIT: Yes, it was, and eventually came a link to this website. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,534 Posted December 1, 2009 Share Posted December 1, 2009 I made that Minority Report Thread over the summer, and I think the chronological order was discussed...EDIT: Yes, it was, and eventually came a link to this website.I'm glad that it contains the classical stuff, but it is atill not complete. It does not contain the Pre-crime advert(cue lots of kids: "Pre-crime: IT WORKS!"), or the ad mall music, but since that is by Paul Haslinger... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Penna 3,694 Posted December 1, 2009 Share Posted December 1, 2009 What's a cue by Haslinger doing in Minority Report? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted December 1, 2009 Share Posted December 1, 2009 Anyone have the Williams Pops Around the World CD? Is the Cowboys overture more or less the same as the By Request recording or is it worth seeking out the World CD? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ollie 1,059 Posted December 1, 2009 Share Posted December 1, 2009 Should be the same version / recording. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wojo 2,453 Posted December 1, 2009 Share Posted December 1, 2009 Quick Question:For the iPod owners out there, can anybody recommend a good car mount and charger? I'd like to buy a case before I actually remove the plastic, to not get fingerprints on the screen, and I want to make sure the case and mount are compatible.I already have an FM transmitter that works perfectly. My car does not have a cassette deck or direct line-in port, though I may ask the dealership how much the latter would cost. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,251 Posted December 1, 2009 Share Posted December 1, 2009 Aux input shouldn't cost too much, cheaper than buying a new radio. And they're better than FM transmitters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wojo 2,453 Posted December 1, 2009 Share Posted December 1, 2009 The head unit has a button for Aux input, so I either need to get it to the dealer or an auto audio shop to install the cable harness. Having a six-MP3-disc changer put such an investment onto the back burner, and there is absolutely no documentation online as to how to do it myself or what I need. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,534 Posted December 3, 2009 Share Posted December 3, 2009 What's a cue by Haslinger doing in Minority Report?What's a cue by John Barry doing in "Catch Me If You Can"?Anyone have the Williams Pops Around the World CD? Is the Cowboys overture more or less the same as the By Request recording or is it worth seeking out the World CD?I believe that Mark Olivarez is right: it is the same recording. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Penna 3,694 Posted December 3, 2009 Share Posted December 3, 2009 What's a cue by Haslinger doing in Minority Report?What's a cue by John Barry doing in "Catch Me If You Can"?I meant that as a genuine question - did Haslinger write source or some sort of additional music for MR? Seems a bit weird. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wojo 2,453 Posted December 3, 2009 Share Posted December 3, 2009 I meant that as a genuine question - did Haslinger write source or some sort of additional music for MR? Seems a bit weird.Yes. IMDB.com has "Soundtrack Listings" for every movie, which details songs and pieces in a movie (source music), but not the score pieces written by the score's normal artist. For Minority Report, it lists:"The Ad-Mall" and "The Neuroflex"(2002)Written, Produced and Performed by Paul HaslingerThe Soundtrack Listing does not list every piece or cue written by JW, but it offers a link to the soundtrack album at Amazon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted December 11, 2009 Share Posted December 11, 2009 What's the deal with the Reader's Digest 4 disc JW/Boston Pops set? I suspected it's hodgepodge of previously released recordings. Is it worth checking out? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,534 Posted December 15, 2009 Share Posted December 15, 2009 Does anyone shop at/order from Movie Boulevard, in Leeds? If so, do you know if it is still trading? The website has been down for about 6 weeks, and both telephone numbers that I have are unobtainable. What's going on? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wojo 2,453 Posted December 15, 2009 Share Posted December 15, 2009 You got two empty halves of coconut and you're banging 'em together! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ollie 1,059 Posted December 15, 2009 Share Posted December 15, 2009 Does anyone shop at/order from Movie Boulevard, in Leeds? If so, do you know if it is still trading? The website has been down for about 6 weeks, and both telephone numbers that I have are unobtainable. What's going on?I believe they closed shop and went out of business.It was posted over FSM somewhere on the message board. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Brigden 7 Posted December 15, 2009 Share Posted December 15, 2009 Has there ever been a thread collecting all of the releases for the year? Like one that can be updated with release date info etc (would also be handy for picking the end of year awards too). Also, speculation.Anyone think this is a good idea? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ollie 1,059 Posted December 15, 2009 Share Posted December 15, 2009 No we've never had a thread for that, at least not one I can remember.I wouldn't mind having one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Crichton 4 Posted December 15, 2009 Share Posted December 15, 2009 You got two empty halves of coconut and you're banging 'em together!So? We have ridden since the snows of winter covered this land, through the kingdom of Mercer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marian Schedenig 8,200 Posted December 16, 2009 Share Posted December 16, 2009 Where did you get the coconuts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,251 Posted December 16, 2009 Share Posted December 16, 2009 A swallow might have carried them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Crichton 4 Posted December 16, 2009 Share Posted December 16, 2009 The swallow may fly south with the sun, or the house martin or the plover may seek warmer climes in winter, yet these are not strangers to our land. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diego 21 Posted December 20, 2009 Share Posted December 20, 2009 Two quick questions:1. I'm curious about Danny Elfman's Standard Operating Procedure, I'm a big fan of Serenada Schizophrana and I'm considering getting it but I've listened to some samples and some sound identical to Serenada. How much of the score is a rehash from Serenada Schizophrana?2. I'm also interested on the re-recording of Superman from Varesse, Superman is one of my top 5 scores, is the re-recording worthy? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Parker 3,040 Posted December 20, 2009 Share Posted December 20, 2009 How much of the score is a rehash from Serenada Schizophrana?If I recall correctly, two Tracks utilize material from Serenada Schizophrana, and the rest is original material. Danny Elfman did comment in an interview that he felt the score to be a sort of "spiritual successor" (not his exact words) to Serenada Schizophrana, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,251 Posted December 20, 2009 Share Posted December 20, 2009 When you subscribe to FSM Online, can you cancel the subscription at anytime? I really only want to read the Zimmer interview in the most recent issue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,534 Posted December 21, 2009 Share Posted December 21, 2009 Does anyone shop at/order from Movie Boulevard, in Leeds? If so, do you know if it is still trading? The website has been down for about 6 weeks, and both telephone numbers that I have are unobtainable. What's going on?I believe they closed shop and went out of business.It was posted over FSM somewhere on the message board.Thank you for that, Mark. Can anyone recommend me a decent soundtrack mail order shop (preferably in the U.K.) which J.W.fan members buy from? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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