King Mark 3,631 Posted April 9, 2009 Share Posted April 9, 2009 Someone was tellign me there is only like 4 minutes missing from "Moonraker" and that the release of it alone is the msot expanded of the other Bond re-issues.oh that's it?there's also a Prague re-recording with the music for the arrival at Drax's castle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hitch 58 Posted April 9, 2009 Share Posted April 9, 2009 Thank God for the original dvd edit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted April 9, 2009 Share Posted April 9, 2009 Some great material missing from the Moonraker album. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trent B 337 Posted April 9, 2009 Author Share Posted April 9, 2009 Roger posted more about the releases.I'll give you the clues a day early. The 3000 unit run hails from the 70s. It's the premiere release of a pretty big score from this guy's catalog. The 1000 unit one is a 2-CD set featuring two scores. Both films are first represented by their original LP presentation from the late 50s and early 60s. And one of them, which was a rerecording, is also accompanied by a 20 minute suite of the original tracks. Of course, we decided on 1000 units before we found the suite, so we probably should have done 1200. But we can't plan for everything! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wojo 2,453 Posted April 9, 2009 Share Posted April 9, 2009 I wonder if The Ten Commandments is getting a re-release. A 20-minute suite of that would sound nice. It depends on what the second disc would be, though, to decide if I'd buy it, because I own the original re-recording. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Crichton 4 Posted April 9, 2009 Share Posted April 9, 2009 Not Dracula then. Oh well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wojo 2,453 Posted April 9, 2009 Share Posted April 9, 2009 Dracula complete/expanded/whatever = Worth great excitementDracula re-issue = Worth substantially less excitement Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Brausam 216 Posted April 9, 2009 Share Posted April 9, 2009 It would be nice if the 3000 release could be Black Sunday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Crichton 4 Posted April 9, 2009 Share Posted April 9, 2009 Dracula complete/expanded/whatever = Worth great excitementDracula re-issue = Worth substantially less excitementYes, I'd rather wait for an expanded as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dole 17 Posted April 9, 2009 Share Posted April 9, 2009 As far as Dracula etc. are concerned, was there ever any confirmation about whether or not film scores were destroyed in the Universal Studios fire a year or two ago? I thought Universal's official statement was "no", but that someone in the know over at FSM had indicated "yes." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,251 Posted April 9, 2009 Share Posted April 9, 2009 It would be nice if the 3000 release could be Black Sunday.A premiere release of a pretty big score from this guy's catalog. I doubt it. Black Sunday isn't really big among all of JW's other scores. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Brausam 216 Posted April 9, 2009 Share Posted April 9, 2009 Amongst his scores, no, it's not big. But that and Family Plot are the last two "big" scores in his catalog that have yet to premiere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ollie 1,069 Posted April 10, 2009 Share Posted April 10, 2009 Well it's a premiere release from this composer's catalogue, so that should also rule out LP releases, suites of the actual score included in compilations and re-recordings by my terminology.Black Sunday would qualify as a big score from Williams' catalogue.Jerry Goldsmith - One Little Indian or Players. Damnation Alley would be nice if they found the missing electronic elements but some of the score was already released on the Goldsmith at Fox set.Elmer Bernstein - Animal HouseJerry Fielding - Beyond The Poseiden AdventureI can't think of anything from John Barry or Georges Delerue. Is there a big title from Morricone that needs a release? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,251 Posted April 10, 2009 Share Posted April 10, 2009 Elmer Bernstein - Animal HouseTechnically this had some music released.Is there a big title from Morricone that needs a release?Not that I know of. He has 400+ scores, so I'm sure there is something they could find Any of his Western scores are welcome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,643 Posted April 10, 2009 Share Posted April 10, 2009 Black Sunday would qualify as a big score from Williams' catalogue.Jerry Goldsmith - One Little Indian or Players. Damnation Alley would be nice if they found the missing electronic elements but some of the score was already released on the Goldsmith at Fox set.Elmer Bernstein - Animal HouseJerry Fielding - Beyond The Poseiden AdventureI can't think of anything from John Barry or Georges Delerue. Is there a big title from Morricone that needs a release?Morricone = 'Danger Diabolik' As i said, it has a rather big cult following, but i doubt Intrada ventures too far from american shores. Barry and Delerue have all their 'major' scores released, the Goldsmiths you named sound too esoteric but would sure be welcome. 'Black Sunday' would be cool but had to sound substantially better than the boot. I'll keep the Motzing suite...Isn't at least something from 'Beyond Poseidon Adventure' released? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TownerFan 4,991 Posted April 10, 2009 Share Posted April 10, 2009 My guess for the 3000 unit title:Williams - Black Sunday or Family PlotGoldsmith - Damnation Alley or The Reincarnation of Peter Proud or PlayersBarry - The Tamarind Seed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,251 Posted April 10, 2009 Share Posted April 10, 2009 Really think it could be either of those JW scores? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TownerFan 4,991 Posted April 10, 2009 Share Posted April 10, 2009 Well, I surely hope so In the previous months, Intrada said they were planning to release several big and unexpected titles during 2009, so let's hope for some surprise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ollie 1,069 Posted April 11, 2009 Share Posted April 11, 2009 Here's what Doug Fake (the big cheese at Intrada) posted:Though it comes from a legendary composer with dozens and dozens of albums, the 3000 unit title has never been released in any format before. Not a suite, not a theme, not a note! That's one of the exciting things about it. The sound samples alone will probably be enough to get your blood racing. Every note's included, complete and in pristine stereo from magnificent vaulted studio masters. What a discovery! Given the history, 3000 may not be enough... but it's the max we can produce under the AFM and studio agreements. Trust me, it's one you'll probably want to consider getting. --DouglinkBlack Sunday did have a suite released, although it was a re-recording and Family Plot had the two cues on the Hitchcock compilation.One Little Indian & Players are two Goldsmith scores from the 70's that haven't had anything released. The Reincarnation Of Peter Proud appears to have had a theme released on LP.It's probably something obvious we aren't thinking about, kinda like their release of War Games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Penna 3,765 Posted April 11, 2009 Share Posted April 11, 2009 This is where my lack of golden age scores and general knowledge lets me down. I can only imagine being excited about an announcement like this if it was from the mid 90s, much less the 70s.Still, I'll be there at 1am on Wednesday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,643 Posted April 12, 2009 Share Posted April 12, 2009 Black Sunday did have a suite released, although it was a re-recording and Family Plot had the two cues on the Hitchcock compilation.'Black Sunday' if he discarded re-recorded thingies...but the announcement would still read a bit strange, then.or 'The Salamander'? This is an early 80's Goldsmith with catchy theme, a 'Final Conflict'-y chorale piece and action music...never released. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Parker 3,040 Posted April 12, 2009 Share Posted April 12, 2009 Doug stated the composer often wrote good music for "less-than-stellar" movies, which I would interpret as Jerry Goldsmith. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,643 Posted April 12, 2009 Share Posted April 12, 2009 Doug stated the composer often wrote good music for "less-than-stellar" movies, which I would interpret as Jerry Goldsmith.Or Morricone. 'The List of Adrian Messneger' would be welcome, too! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,631 Posted April 12, 2009 Share Posted April 12, 2009 *reminds himself we got a great JW year in 2008*I guess another Goldsmith only the die hard (FSM) fans care about is ok Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marian Schedenig 8,244 Posted April 12, 2009 Share Posted April 12, 2009 As opposed to another Williams score only the die hard fans care about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MissPadmé 17 Posted April 12, 2009 Share Posted April 12, 2009 Family Plot! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,631 Posted April 12, 2009 Share Posted April 12, 2009 I think Family Plot and Black Sunday quality as scores wanted by the entire film score communityAs opposed to something like "Link" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,643 Posted April 12, 2009 Share Posted April 12, 2009 *reminds himself we got a great JW year in 2008*I guess another Goldsmith only the die hard (FSM) fans care about is okAnd those come in bigger numbers than Williams fans around here, it seems. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,631 Posted April 12, 2009 Share Posted April 12, 2009 I like Goldsmith , but some of his lesser scores are nothing special ,even unlistenable on their own Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,643 Posted April 12, 2009 Share Posted April 12, 2009 I think Family Plot and Black Sunday quality as scores wanted by the entire film score communityAs opposed to something like "Link"Both are release-worthy scores, but certainly not above scores like 'Messenger', 'Lonely are the Brave' or other indeed still unreleased Goldsmith scores.'Link' very obviously is out of the equation for the 14th release....But of course it could turn out neither Goldsmith nor Williams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marian Schedenig 8,244 Posted April 12, 2009 Share Posted April 12, 2009 I think Family Plot and Black Sunday quality as scores wanted by the entire film score communityBut would it be wanted by as many people as some expanded Zimmer score? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ollie 1,069 Posted April 14, 2009 Share Posted April 14, 2009 And the winner is.......................Me.One Little Indian - Jerry Goldsmith.The second one is Les Baxter's Master Of The World & Goliath & The Barbarians. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,251 Posted April 14, 2009 Share Posted April 14, 2009 Borrrrring. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wojo 2,453 Posted April 14, 2009 Share Posted April 14, 2009 I believe I will pass. I have never heard of either of those, and I've got three goodies due in the mail whenever Movie Music decides to ship them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trent B 337 Posted April 14, 2009 Author Share Posted April 14, 2009 As much as I love Jerry Goldsmith's music I'll be passing on this and the other title too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hlao-roo 389 Posted April 14, 2009 Share Posted April 14, 2009 The first few sample clips from One Little Indian are a little underwhelming, but "Hot Fire" is vintage Goldsmith. It'll be interesting to see how quickly this title sells. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy 4,255 Posted April 14, 2009 Share Posted April 14, 2009 What the heck. I ordered Goldsmith's One Little Indian. The sound clips sound pretty cool. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnnyecks 33 Posted April 14, 2009 Share Posted April 14, 2009 I can't believe the lack of interest in this Goldsmith score from you guys here. Especially you Vosk and Koray. This is PRIME Goldsmith. Great action cues, lovely melodic B theme, just listen to the clip of the last track. Pure Goldsmith joy!! And not to mention, a never before heard one as well! Not just Williams fans, but for score fanatics like us I am very underwhelmed by the lack of enthusiasm over this release! I ordered both of them today. Can't wait to hear them in their entirety. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,251 Posted April 14, 2009 Share Posted April 14, 2009 Johnny you have like 3 billion scores okay. You don't need anymore! As for me, I'm not a big Goldsmith fan, or really a fan of anyone that isn't currently active in the industry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trent B 337 Posted April 14, 2009 Author Share Posted April 14, 2009 I can't believe the lack of interest in this Goldsmith score from you guys here. Especially you Vosk and Koray. This is PRIME Goldsmith. Great action cues, lovely melodic B theme, just listen to the clip of the last track. Pure Goldsmith joy!! And not to mention, a never before heard one as well! Not just Williams fans, but for score fanatics like us I am very underwhelmed by the lack of enthusiasm over this release! I ordered both of them today. Can't wait to hear them in their entirety.Sorry but I never saw the movie so I can't really connect to the score. I mean yes the samples do sound great but I got be choosy this year on what to buy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Coscina 4 Posted April 14, 2009 Share Posted April 14, 2009 Johnny you have like 3 billion scores okay. You don't need anymore! As for me, I'm not a big Goldsmith fan, or really a fan of anyone that isn't currently active in the industry.your loss dude. I love the suspended chords in the Rhodes piano and the main theme. I totally ordered this. It's different but still has Goldsmith's unmistakable compositional stamp on it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,251 Posted April 14, 2009 Share Posted April 14, 2009 I listened to the first sample. It didn't tickle my fancy, just like most older scores. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hlao-roo 389 Posted April 14, 2009 Share Posted April 14, 2009 I listened to the first sample. It didn't tickle my fancy, just like most older scores.Your fancy must not be very ticklish. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnnyecks 33 Posted April 14, 2009 Share Posted April 14, 2009 Meh. To each their own. Their loss. This is a FANTASTIC release. If not for nothing else, but the ramifications of this being released (held up for years due to Disney), and of the Honey set from Mr. Horner, things are starting to look up for us lowly little collectors.And it isn't about having a billion scores Koray, I don't see what that has to do with anything. I enjoy having good QUALITY scores. And Goldsmith rarely disappoints. You should do yourself a favor, and listen to the last sample. Pure fun Goldsmith. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,251 Posted April 14, 2009 Share Posted April 14, 2009 I was just joking about the billion scores thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Brausam 216 Posted April 14, 2009 Share Posted April 14, 2009 I'm slightly underwhelmed, but I think I'll order the Goldmsith if only to support the continued efforts with Disney. I'll just order a Rozsa that I don't have in the place of the Baxter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Crichton 4 Posted April 14, 2009 Share Posted April 14, 2009 I might pick up One Little Indian. I'll always get Jerry, and I haven't gotten a new release of his since Alien or The Wind and the Lion (can't remember which one was last). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morlock 11 Posted April 14, 2009 Share Posted April 14, 2009 The first few sample clips from One Little Indian are a little underwhelming, but "Hot Fire" is vintage Goldsmith. It'll be interesting to see how quickly this title sells. I agree. I love Goldsmith's westerns, but they all strike me as being more or less in the same category, quality wise (i.e. terrific). I rarely feel like a specific one, I just feel like hearing that sound. I was resigned to pass on this one (my latest SAE order just having been shipped a couple of days ago), but then 'Hot Fire' came along, and that kicks some major ass (So does 'Go After Him!'). Now I think I'm gonna have to order it. Or just listed to these soundclips ad-nausium. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wojo 2,453 Posted April 14, 2009 Share Posted April 14, 2009 I listened to the sound clips, and I'm impressed. I do have one Goldsmith western (Extreme Prejudice) which is ok every once in a while, but it's not an everyday listen.I emailed MovieMusic to see if I could buy this and tack it into my previous order that hasn't shipped yet, because I can't think of any other must-buys that I need right away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ollie 1,069 Posted April 14, 2009 Share Posted April 14, 2009 This also great news in that we are seeing Disney titles released.So who knows what goodies are headed our way, I know a certain James Horner title that would make the film score community happy. And maybe the Black Hole can go from being an iTunes exclusive to an actual release.********Edit********Actually I can think of another James Horner score, we already got the rejected one from Varese and speaking of that, perhaps The Black Cauldron may get a re-release, expanded of course. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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