Jay 37,475 Posted November 4, 2010 Author Share Posted November 4, 2010 Good to see you back on the boards Mr. B Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fommes 154 Posted November 5, 2010 Share Posted November 5, 2010 As always I'm a bit behind, but I've received the Lost Season 5 CD, and I must say it's slightly disappointing. It really suffers from the exclusion of some particular highlights, like the full finale prologue music, and the lack of Miles's themes in his episode, which were, besides Jacob's theme, the only things I really remembered from the season. There's also too much of the typical Lost generic action music again. That said, there is excellent music to be found as well. It's short, but I particularly like that piano moment in Jacob's Stabber: it's simple but really gives you the feeling of a deeper mythology yet to be discovered and the importance of the moment. Brilliant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisAfonso 188 Posted November 5, 2010 Share Posted November 5, 2010 The most engaging part for me on Lost 5 is "The Incident", the rousing buildup of Juliet's theme culminating in a dramatic statement of "Life and Death" gets me every time. Also the parts of the score with the submarine theme are pretty good. I agree that especially the middle of the CD has some unfortunate stretches of less engaging material, but the final cues always make up for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,048 Posted November 5, 2010 Share Posted November 5, 2010 I actually like the the Dharma vs. Lostaways cue very much. One of the strongest action pieces in the series.Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taikomochi 1,143 Posted November 5, 2010 Share Posted November 5, 2010 I actually like the the Dharma vs. Lostaways cue very much. One of the strongest action pieces in the series.KarolYes! The opening notes are so strong and decisive. It gives me goosebumps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,724 Posted November 7, 2010 Share Posted November 7, 2010 A nice little observation while listening to the Last Episodes set: On disc 1 track 19 Jack's Cup Runneth Over begins with a harp figure that is actually a reference to Hurley's quirky theme as he says "I'm just glad it's not me.". This same harp line is reprised on disc 2 track 18 Hurley's Coronation. A nice small touch connecting the scenes. I am sure Giacchino did not have an inkling at the time of What They Died For that Hurley would be the guardian of the Island but he pulled a nice musical parallel here all the same. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,048 Posted November 14, 2010 Share Posted November 14, 2010 Here is a lenghty and exhaustive Filmtracks review of all Lost albums. And it's a very kind review, one might add. And I agree on pretty much all accounts. Maybe with the exception of the Season 2 album, which I really enjoy. All at least first 14 tracks.Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacob 0 Posted November 14, 2010 Share Posted November 14, 2010 So far I only have the season six albums, but I'll be working my way through all of them.Season one is next in line.Important to the album's presentation is the Revelation motif, a stinger consisting of a trombone glissando that closes out "Locke'd Out Again" and "Life and Death" consecutively, as well as "Oceanic 815" at the end of the product. It's a basically effective but truly obnoxious tool of suspense that frankly ruins some of the album's best dramatic music. Yeah, those trombones can get on the nerves at times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Datameister 2,073 Posted November 14, 2010 Share Posted November 14, 2010 Interestingly, I disagree with the majority of the small-scale opinions in that review - for instance, the S4 soundtrack is one of my least favorites - but I certainly agree with their overall conclusion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,724 Posted November 14, 2010 Share Posted November 14, 2010 I surprisingly agree with Clemmensen on many points. For casual soundtrack fan the Lost albums do not offer a very readily digestable content as they contain only a fragment of all the musical material from the series and thus offer more of a collection of individual setpiece moments than an overarcing musical story and development. Lost music is also quite context dependant as I have found that some of the music becomes much more potent when you know what it is underscoring and has a whole different level of meaning after that.If you know the story intimately this music will certainly appeal to you and even the simplest constructs can be very emotional but to a person who is just buying an album with no knowledge of the series it will be a tough listening experience.Season 4 and 6 are most outwardly expressive albums and provide a strong listening experiece with a beginning, middle and an ending. Season 6 by the virtue of 4 whole discs of music, season 4 because of good track selection. Season 6 might be even too much for a casual fan to absord even though it is the most accessible and dramatic of all the seasons.For a fan of the show all the albums have their blessings and curses. Mostly I wish more wonderful musical moments from different seasons could have been included. I miss the introduction of the 1st Travelling theme (heard on disc 1 track 26 of the Season 3 soundtrack) in the 1st Season and it's appearances in the 2nd Season and some other smaller motifs like Danielle's skittery theme. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted November 14, 2010 Share Posted November 14, 2010 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Datameister 2,073 Posted November 14, 2010 Share Posted November 14, 2010 Yeah, Rousseau has a little theme of her own that is sort of...well, skittery. I'm having trouble thinking of any instances in the albums, but it's in the show, at least. The first time you hear it is when Sayid finds the wire on the beach in "Solitary", before the character is even properly introduced. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,724 Posted November 14, 2010 Share Posted November 14, 2010 [...] and some other smaller motifs like Danielle's skittery theme.What's this ? Never heard of that one.That was just one example of the missing motifs from the 1st Season soundtrack. It can be heard on Season 5 soundtrack on track 12 Alex in Chains just at the beginning. A nervous little motif indeed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taikomochi 1,143 Posted November 14, 2010 Share Posted November 14, 2010 I keep reading elsewhere that "LA X"/"Paralellocam" is a variation on "Life And Death"/Oceanic 6 theme. I honestly cannot hear it. Perhaps somebody could draw my attention to a certain part where this is heard? :S Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted November 14, 2010 Share Posted November 14, 2010 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Datameister 2,073 Posted November 14, 2010 Share Posted November 14, 2010 That theme shares the same chord progression with "Life and Death" - a bit of foreshadowing that makes me wonder if Darlton told Giacchino how the season would end when he was scoring "LA X." As for the O6 theme, it's more just that they're very, very stylistically similar. He uses a rhythmic/melodic pattern that's used in the O6 theme as well as Locke's theme - the emotional one, not "Crocodile Locke." It's a pattern Giacchino apparently really liked to use in LOST, to the point where I actually got a little tired of it. When I heard the O6 theme for the first time, it was kind of like, Oh, not this again. Then I eventually came to love it. Same thing happened with the new theme in "LA X." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,048 Posted November 14, 2010 Share Posted November 14, 2010 I always enjoyed how Giacchino build themes for other themes. It's the kind of Howard Shore approrach, if you will.Like Hurley's Friendship theme being developed from part of the raft theme or Jack/Locke sideways theme being developed from both Jack's and Locke's themes. Very nice touches.Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taikomochi 1,143 Posted November 14, 2010 Share Posted November 14, 2010 That theme shares the same chord progression with "Life and Death" - a bit of foreshadowing that makes me wonder if Darlton told Giacchino how the season would end when he was scoring "LA X." As for the O6 theme, it's more just that they're very, very stylistically similar. He uses a rhythmic/melodic pattern that's used in the O6 theme as well as Locke's theme - the emotional one, not "Crocodile Locke." It's a pattern Giacchino apparently really liked to use in LOST, to the point where I actually got a little tired of it. When I heard the O6 theme for the first time, it was kind of like, Oh, not this again. Then I eventually came to love it. Same thing happened with the new theme in "LA X."I think I understand. Thanks.As for the O6 theme, I found it so generic in my initial watch through of the show that I didn't distinguish it as different from Life and Death in my initial quick listen to the albums. I didn't realize it was its own theme until watching the finale(keep in mind, I watched the finale maybe 2-3 days after watching "There's No Place Like Home", so I may not have had time to process anyways). At that point, I realized it was different and it was my favorite theme... Until I heard "LA X" on the album. Such a shame it is only heard 3 times in the show Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,251 Posted November 14, 2010 Share Posted November 14, 2010 What the hell does the space in "LA X" actually mean? Just realized that I never actually thought about it. Does the "X" mean crossed out as in dead or something? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Breathmask 555 Posted November 14, 2010 Share Posted November 14, 2010 The episode title LA X is a hint that we're watching some form of an alternate reality.Ironically, according to the CD back cover and the Varèse website, track five on the season six album is in fact called LAX (sans space). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,048 Posted November 14, 2010 Share Posted November 14, 2010 What the hell does the space in "LA X" actually mean? Just realized that I never actually thought about it. Does the "X" mean crossed out as in dead or something?That would be two Xs. Instead of eyes, I mean. Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,251 Posted November 14, 2010 Share Posted November 14, 2010 The episode title LA X is a hint that we're watching some form of an alternate reality.I knew that. But even if the space wasn't there, we would still be aware that we're watching an alternate reality. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,475 Posted November 15, 2010 Author Share Posted November 15, 2010 the side ways world was referred to as the X world. So we saw Jack X and Rose X on Oceanic 815 X land in LA X. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,251 Posted November 15, 2010 Share Posted November 15, 2010 I guess that kinda makes sense. Whatever, it's not a big deal of any sort. I was just curious what their original intent was. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fommes 154 Posted November 16, 2010 Share Posted November 16, 2010 Apparently, there is an iTunes bonus track for the Lost: The Last Episodes set, namely "Moving On" (Alternate with ukulele). Having bought the expensive official album, I feel kind of ripped off, especially since it's not available at my local iTunes. (It's only one buck in the US, though, you don't need to buy the entire album again as far as I can tell.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,475 Posted November 16, 2010 Author Share Posted November 16, 2010 Wait, isn't The Last Episodes supposed to be limited to 5,000 copies? Now there's unlimited digital copies? Bastards! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fommes 154 Posted November 16, 2010 Share Posted November 16, 2010 No, it was released in their special kind of limited edition series: limited on CD, thereafter available digitally. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,251 Posted November 16, 2010 Share Posted November 16, 2010 fommes is correct, although I think Jay was being sarcastic. I shall be buying this right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wojo 2,453 Posted November 16, 2010 Share Posted November 16, 2010 Wait, isn't The Last Episodes supposed to be limited to 5,000 copies? Now there's unlimited digital copies? Bastards!There are always unlimited digital copies... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red 75 Posted November 16, 2010 Share Posted November 16, 2010 I'm gonna need to hear this track. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taikomochi 1,143 Posted November 16, 2010 Share Posted November 16, 2010 I'm gonna need to hear this track.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S5RRivdP7bgIt's not very different... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,724 Posted November 16, 2010 Share Posted November 16, 2010 The ukulele doesn't add anything worthwhile to the track. I like the version without it much more. And the piece itself is almost the same as the one both Last Season albums. After a quick listen the ukulele in the section with Hurley's theme and the harp ending playing the Oceanic 6 theme are different. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taikomochi 1,143 Posted November 16, 2010 Share Posted November 16, 2010 While I like the harp playing at the end and prefer it, that in addition to the pointless ukulele don't seem worth the small price. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacob 0 Posted November 18, 2010 Share Posted November 18, 2010 I've been wondering where the track "Credit Where Credit Is Due" from LOST gets it's title.I re-watched that part of the pilot and it's because it plays over the opening credits, right?Lostpedia wasn't helpful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Datameister 2,073 Posted November 18, 2010 Share Posted November 18, 2010 No idea. =/ I've wondered the same thing. Oh, Giacchino, you and your oft-indecipherable puns and references... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacob 0 Posted November 18, 2010 Share Posted November 18, 2010 Ha! And here I thought I was an ignorant n00b for even asking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taikomochi 1,143 Posted November 18, 2010 Share Posted November 18, 2010 There are so many Giacchino track titles I don't get... They piss me off so much! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,475 Posted November 18, 2010 Author Share Posted November 18, 2010 Why are you guys confused? It plays over the opening credits.That's an easy one to figure out! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Datameister 2,073 Posted November 18, 2010 Share Posted November 18, 2010 I wonder if giacchinotracktitlepunexplanationswiki.com is taken yet...EDIT: Nice, Jay. That's a load off my mind! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fommes 154 Posted November 18, 2010 Share Posted November 18, 2010 Is the Ukulele version the film version, or is the album version the film version?Did I mention I couldn't get the original AAC file for this new alternate version at my local iTunes...? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,724 Posted November 18, 2010 Share Posted November 18, 2010 Is the Ukulele version the film version, or is the album version the film version?Did I mention I couldn't get the original AAC file for this new alternate version at my local iTunes...? The ukulele version is not the film version. As far as I can tell the one on the both Last Season albums is. Or I guess it could be called the intended version Giacchino wrote. I seem to remember someone saying that there was a slight edit or changing of the last harp note or something in the version we hear in the show. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacob 0 Posted November 18, 2010 Share Posted November 18, 2010 Why are you guys confused? It plays over the opening credits.That's an easy one to figure out!That's what I suggested! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taikomochi 1,143 Posted November 18, 2010 Share Posted November 18, 2010 I seem to remember someone saying that there was a slight edit or changing of the last harp note or something in the version we hear in the show. C'est moi!I am coming to really dislike the Ukulele. The Hurley's theme was inapporpriate to begin with and only served aesthetics, so why go all out with the Ukulele? That only makes it seem more inappropriate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,475 Posted January 27, 2011 Author Share Posted January 27, 2011 6 years of LOST music: Piano medley http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iDIVAJ2HTxU Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LongTallJodie 59 Posted January 27, 2011 Share Posted January 27, 2011 Well, that was pretty awesome. Loved the third hand on "Traveling." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneBuckFilms 325 Posted January 28, 2011 Share Posted January 28, 2011 You should hear the rest of his music. There are some really good pieces there !!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melvin Frohike 12 Posted March 31, 2011 Share Posted March 31, 2011 I also made a piano medley of themes from lost. Also included are the tracks "The Hole Shabang" and "Aloha" from the season six soundtrack. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLUMENKOHL 1,070 Posted May 8, 2011 Share Posted May 8, 2011 I cannot believe the music from this scene wasn't released in any of the season 6 soundtracks...http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=abJ3q1o1F-IIdiots! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,251 Posted May 8, 2011 Share Posted May 8, 2011 I recall thinking the same thing while rewatching the series. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,048 Posted May 8, 2011 Share Posted May 8, 2011 This cue is not on the disc, but the theme is well represented on the Season 5 CD (Track 9 Le Fleur). I think it makes up for it. Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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