Incanus 5,716 Posted September 13, 2014 Share Posted September 13, 2014 I have to check out that album sometime.I know Doug has ranted about that album, calling it a poor transcription now and then.Enlighten me, what's a transcription?The music has been transcribed by someone in part or entirely by ear and thus it is not the actual "official" printed sheet music. Or this is what I take it to be also in this case.E.g. Nino Rota's Romeo and Juliet was transcribed by ear (with the help of later concert suites and film) by Mike Townend for the Silva Screen re-recording. John Williams had to transcribe his Jane Eyre suite based on the score album when he wanted to create a concert suite from the score in 1980's for Boston Pops as the actual written scores had been destroyed when studio emptied their warehouses and threw out many classic scores as they were said to be a fire hazard by the insurance companies.Basically this album wasn't recorded from Howard Shore's sketches, but was instead reconstructed by hear. In other words, it's not strictly official.KarolExactly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DreamTheater 131 Posted September 13, 2014 Share Posted September 13, 2014 Well they did an amazing job if that's the case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,020 Posted September 13, 2014 Share Posted September 13, 2014 If you want to hear an job amazingly done on James Fitzpatrick you need to check out, again, their Goldsmith releases - QBVII and The Salamander. Now, that is an stunning by-ear job. And Romeo and Juliet, that Incanus mentioned.Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DreamTheater 131 Posted September 13, 2014 Share Posted September 13, 2014 Funnily enough I'm right now listening to The Salamander. Excellent recording, though it'll never become a top Goldsmith for me.QB VII. That one's even harder to get through. Great themes but there's too much filler to hold my interest for 100 minutes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,020 Posted September 13, 2014 Share Posted September 13, 2014 I like both. But, personal preferences aside, you have to admit they did an excellent job, given that they had to use DVD's to transcribe the music. Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DreamTheater 131 Posted September 13, 2014 Share Posted September 13, 2014 Oh absolutely, amazing is understating it. Wouldn't it be great to have the same team reconstruct Inchon? A score I prefer over the two Tadlows. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted September 13, 2014 Share Posted September 13, 2014 Why? we have a perfectly fine release of thats score already? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DreamTheater 131 Posted September 13, 2014 Share Posted September 13, 2014 Sure it's fine, but imagine what a new performance in the style of Conan could do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,020 Posted September 13, 2014 Share Posted September 13, 2014 Yeah, a stellar sounding recording would be awesome. The score is really nice.Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,716 Posted September 13, 2014 Share Posted September 13, 2014 I would say I love to have the original recordings for the film for any score but I am always open to hearing new re-recordings and interpretations, especially considering how big leaps the recording techonology has made. No it won't be exactly like the original but it will be a new look at the old score. Just like Conan, just like Hour of the Gun, just like Romeo and Juliet.Meet Joe Black by Thomas Newman: The very soul of romance, yearning, letting go and acceptance in musical form. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marian Schedenig 8,212 Posted September 13, 2014 Share Posted September 13, 2014 Which album were you listening to? The old standard Varese release (the only version I have). I played it again yesterday. Still doesn't do much for me. QB VII. That one's even harder to get through. Great themes but there's too much filler to hold my interest for 100 minutes. I was a bit underwhelmed by it after reading so many great things about it for years. There must be more to it than I've discovered so far. But for now, Salamander had more of an impact on me. Sure it's fine, but imagine what a new performance in the style of Conan could do. I'd still like them to do The Blue Max. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,020 Posted September 13, 2014 Share Posted September 13, 2014 Marian, that old album is absolutely awful. Not only does it represent just a third of music, but it also fails to contain most of the climactic action setpieces. Or any setpieces, for that matter. Not to mention the film version of Finlandia which weaves Kamen's themes in and out. It's worse than some Goldsmith albums and almost as bad as the third scores' album. Completely useless and in no way a basis to judge this phenomenal score. It's largely an expansion of the material of first film but more bulky and muscular.Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted September 13, 2014 Share Posted September 13, 2014 True, but until recently it was still the best of Kamen's Die Hard releases...officially that is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marian Schedenig 8,212 Posted September 13, 2014 Share Posted September 13, 2014 Hmm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,020 Posted September 13, 2014 Share Posted September 13, 2014 I've just picked up a copy of Cliff Eidelman's The Alien Trilogy compilation. It's really good performance, actually. Definitely a good sampler of three scores in one neat suite album. Good to hear Horner's material in better sound. And I see Botnick was involved in it as well.Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,379 Posted September 13, 2014 Share Posted September 13, 2014 I haven't listened to that in a long time. I should dig it out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faleel 5,365 Posted September 13, 2014 Share Posted September 13, 2014 The Lord of the Rings (I): The Fellowship of the Ring (Theatrical Edition) - Howard Shore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted September 13, 2014 Share Posted September 13, 2014 Somewhere in Time. The Journey Back in Time...pure Barry! So awesome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Datameister 2,044 Posted September 13, 2014 Share Posted September 13, 2014 I've begun the long process of listening to the Star Trek TOS Soundtrack Collection. Very rewarding - I'm glad I finally made the purchase, despite the cost. It's great to be able to break down who wrote what, and for what episode, and when. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wojo 2,453 Posted September 13, 2014 Share Posted September 13, 2014 I had that set for a year and a half before I sat down to tag it and get it onto my iPod. I love the LP style cover art that a poster at FSM created for each disc. I listened to a few discs while driving. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,020 Posted September 13, 2014 Share Posted September 13, 2014 I have actually a big desire to get this set. No idea, perhaps because of all the amazing feedback it got. But, at the same time, I've not watched the show, except for a few episodes. Perhaps, seeing it will help me decide. Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faleel 5,365 Posted September 13, 2014 Share Posted September 13, 2014 I've begun the long process of listening to the Star Trek TOS Soundtrack Collection. Very rewarding - I'm glad I finally made the purchase, despite the cost. It's great to be able to break down who wrote what, and for what episode, and when. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chuck 155 Posted September 14, 2014 Share Posted September 14, 2014 Sure it's fine, but imagine what a new performance in the style of Conan could do.I'd still like them to do The Blue Max.And Lionheart! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Hilary Bray 235 Posted September 14, 2014 Share Posted September 14, 2014 Hunt for Red October, expandedgot to love "Kabooooooom!!!""Ryan, not everything reacts well to bullets." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Datameister 2,044 Posted September 14, 2014 Share Posted September 14, 2014 I have actually a big desire to get this set. No idea, perhaps because of all the amazing feedback it got. But, at the same time, I've not watched the show, except for a few episodes. Perhaps, seeing it will help me decide. I would definitely watch at least a few more episodes. Frankly, a lot of the music sounds exactly like what it is: dated 60s television scoring recorded in mono with small ensembles. Which is perfectly fine with me, but it may not be everyone's cup of tea. But yeah, there's still some really good stuff in there, and for fans of the show, it's incredibly evocative. (Some of the music was tracked and reused over and over again in multiple episodes, so it really gets ingrained into your memory!) And the quality of the release itself is just fantastic - I mean, I basically justified the purchase by reminding myself that I will quite literally never have to buy another TOS album for my entire life. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faleel 5,365 Posted September 14, 2014 Share Posted September 14, 2014 I love the Fried scores the best.Selections from Hyrule Warriors - Various.Kind of dissapointing, though I hear that each track has various versions including some that sound more orchestral. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,716 Posted September 14, 2014 Share Posted September 14, 2014 Moby Dick by Christopher Gordon: A fantastic score of seafaring magnificence combined with a deft musical psychological portrait. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,020 Posted September 14, 2014 Share Posted September 14, 2014 Indeed, fantastic album.Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles by Brian Tyler. I'd say this is by far the best big action score he's done so far.Kaorl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marian Schedenig 8,212 Posted September 14, 2014 Share Posted September 14, 2014 Moby Dick by Christopher Gordon: A fantastic score of seafaring magnificence combined with a deft musical psychological portrait. It's still my favourite Gordon score. But he doesn't do enough film work. Anyone familiar with his concert music? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted September 14, 2014 Share Posted September 14, 2014 Indeed, fantastic album.Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles by Brian Tyler. I'd say this is by far the best big action score he's done so far.KaorlThe movie was so noisy, I didn't even notice the music. Does the score meet Tyler's usual brickwall M.O.? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,020 Posted September 14, 2014 Share Posted September 14, 2014 Yes, but with more orchestrally pleasing touches. If you can't stand his work in general, this one won't convince you. But it's better executed than most.Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted September 14, 2014 Share Posted September 14, 2014 I actually like his music, particularly his action stuff. But I get ear fatigued by it very easily because it's too damn loud. Like louder than GI Joe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted September 16, 2014 Share Posted September 16, 2014 The Towering Inferno, E.T., Hook, Charles Gerhardt The Empire Strikes Back, Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom and Star Wars (Anthology). Dear God, it was great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hlao-roo 389 Posted September 16, 2014 Share Posted September 16, 2014 Aegis, an aggressive actioner written by Trevor Jones with a vitality that has otherwise largely eluded his post-From Hell efforts. The Dark City elements are there, but not photocopied in the manner of Merlin or The League of Extraordinary Gentlemen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,556 Posted September 16, 2014 Share Posted September 16, 2014 The Towering Inferno, E.T., Hook, Charles Gerhardt The Empire Strikes Back, Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom and Star Wars (Anthology). Dear God, it was great."TTI". You started with the best, dude! I haven't heard the Gerhardt "ESB" in years! The Anthology sounds great; nothing wrong with "ROTJ" at all! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,251 Posted September 16, 2014 Share Posted September 16, 2014 The Giver by Marco Beltrami crocodile 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DreamTheater 131 Posted September 16, 2014 Share Posted September 16, 2014 Aliens - James HornerFriggin' Eggcellent !!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KK 3,307 Posted September 16, 2014 Share Posted September 16, 2014 The Giver by Marco BeltramiGoing to listen to this on Spotify tonight.That's right, Canada has Spotify now! Hell ya!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted September 16, 2014 Share Posted September 16, 2014 Bilbo 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,020 Posted September 16, 2014 Share Posted September 16, 2014 It's that strange country Danny Elfman wrote an anthem for. Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted September 16, 2014 Share Posted September 16, 2014 Oh, yeah. Great theme! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KK 3,307 Posted September 16, 2014 Share Posted September 16, 2014 That lazy bastard!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,020 Posted September 16, 2014 Share Posted September 16, 2014 Nah, the themes is just similar in its first three notes. I was only joking. The BoxtrollsKarol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted September 16, 2014 Share Posted September 16, 2014 What theme is similar to O Canada? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KK 3,307 Posted September 16, 2014 Share Posted September 16, 2014 Nah, the themes is just similar in its first three notes. I was only joking. The BoxtrollsKarolLol so was I, but 3 notes is all you need. Is the Boxtrolls up on Spotify too? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted September 16, 2014 Share Posted September 16, 2014 What theme is similar to O Canada?The one in Oz The Great And Powerful. Listen at 0'54: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KK 3,307 Posted September 16, 2014 Share Posted September 16, 2014 What theme is similar to O Canada?0:54https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=95vuU2elh78&index=1&list=PLF6tW055Hhxci0g8j1bOft_9Lu3tU3KWh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted September 16, 2014 Share Posted September 16, 2014 OMG!I assume Elfman has been brought up on charges by the great nation of Canada, your home and native land! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KK 3,307 Posted September 16, 2014 Share Posted September 16, 2014 Yeah, but he said he was sorry, so we let him go! As polite people, how could we refuse such politeness? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,020 Posted September 16, 2014 Share Posted September 16, 2014 Yeah but, as I said, it's just first three notes, then it goes to something else.Kind of like love theme from Superman comes from Strauss.Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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