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52 minutes ago, KK said:

Agreed. The Many-Faced God stuff also made for good underscore.

 

Yeah, again the otherworldly motif material has proved to be this show's most evocative musical tool. 

 

50 minutes ago, Stefancos said:

I don't know what you people are talking about!

 

Can't remember the eerie ambience which opened the pilot as the Walkers violently made their presence known? I recall drawing attention to that quality underscore back then. 

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7 hours ago, Lonnegan said:

The crystalline music north of the Wall has been the most effective underscore in this show for me. 

 

3 hours ago, MedigoScan said:

Hate to break it to ya

But GOT does use motifs

Even the Sparrows have one

 

Yes it does, and a handful of them are even somewhat memorable. Nevertheless, there's hardly been any music in the show's 6 years that I've found more than marginally effective, if at all.

 

One of the better components must be the Stark theme, which at least conveys some emotion that even fits much of the hurt that the surviving Starks must feel. Although considering that there are even now still four (counting Jon) remaining Starks, and they've all specialised in very different ways with very different experiences, lumping them all together under one theme is becoming lazy.

 

I also remember liking the underscore for the fighting pit rebellion in S5. It didn't have any themes as far as I could tell (although I've never identified Dany's theme), which considering the endless plain repetition of the lot was qutie refreshing. Instead, there was a tense texture/atmosphere that reminded me of Shore, not so much of his thematic LOTR moments but rather of stuff like Se7en.

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1 hour ago, Marian Schedenig said:

...considering that there are even now still four (counting Jon) remaining Starks, and they've all specialised in very different ways with very different experiences, lumping them all together under one theme is becoming lazy.

 

Eh? They all have themes associated with their different experiences and specialities. Arya has rarely been accompanied by the Stark theme since her separation from the others, being almost always associated with Braavosi and Faceless Men music; Bran is generally accompanied by music related to Greensight; Jon has most frequently been represented by the Night's Watch theme and, after his resurrection, by the new Jon Snow theme (which incorporates elements of the Main Theme, the Stark theme, the Night's Watch theme, and possibly a Targaryen hint); and, since her collusion with Littlefinger began, Sansa has acquired her own distinct version of the Stark theme.

 

8 hours ago, TheWhiteRider said:

You know, I'm not really convinced it's a coincidence.  Even if there's no hidden meaning to it, it's too close to not be intentional.

 

I agree. There might not be any significance (in terms of what the motives represent), but it's surely a deliberate use of the same basic pattern in various guises.

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1 hour ago, Marian Schedenig said:

 

 

Yes it does, and a handful of them are even somewhat memorable. Nevertheless, there's hardly been any music in the show's 6 years that I've found more than marginally effective, if at all.

 

One of the better components must be the Stark theme, which at least conveys some emotion that even fits much of the hurt that the surviving Starks must feel. Although considering that there are even now still four (counting Jon) remaining Starks, and they've all specialised in very different ways with very different experiences, lumping them all together under one theme is becoming lazy.

 

I also remember liking the underscore for the fighting pit rebellion in S5. It didn't have any themes as far as I could tell (although I've never identified Dany's theme), which considering the endless plain repetition of the lot was qutie refreshing. Instead, there was a tense texture/atmosphere that reminded me of Shore, not so much of his thematic LOTR moments but rather of stuff like Se7en.

 

I'm currently playing The Witcher 3, and its realms, politics and peoples don't feel a world apart from Game of Thrones. The music on the other hand is actually very good. 

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1 hour ago, Glóin the Dark said:

Eh? They all have themes associated with their different experiences and specialities. Arya has rarely been accompanied by the Stark theme since her separation from the others, being almost always associated with Braavosi and Faceless Men music; Bran is generally accompanied by music related to Greensight; Jon has most frequently been represented by the Night's Watch theme and, after his resurrection, by the new Jon Snow theme (which incorporates elements of the Main Theme, the Stark theme, the Night's Watch theme, and possibly a Targaryen hint); and, since her collusion with Littlefinger began, Sansa has acquired her own distinct version of the Stark theme.

 

Perhaps. I wasn't even aware of the existence of these themes. I have frequently noticed the Stark theme applied to at least Sansa and Arya in the last two seasons.

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The only themes I've ever noticed when watching the show are the Lannister theme (not sure how anyone couldn't notice that one) and the Danaerys theme (at least I assume its her theme; Maybe its some Targaryen theme or dragon theme, I dunno.  It plays when she burns the slave masters with Drogo in Season 3 and when she sails to Westeros in the last episode)

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Yeah I've been listening to it a bit. It shows that Djawadi learned from Hans how to keep things meaningful and interesting while treading close to familiarity and simplicity.  Effective stuff.  

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5 hours ago, Marian Schedenig said:

I also remember liking the underscore for the fighting pit rebellion in S5. It didn't have any themes as far as I could tell (although I've never identified Dany's theme), which considering the endless plain repetition of the lot was qutie refreshing. Instead, there was a tense texture/atmosphere that reminded me of Shore, not so much of his thematic LOTR moments but rather of stuff like Se7en.

 

The pit rebellion music was a good moment for Djawadi. One of his more "inspired" moments in the show (he does have a few that I've come to enjoy).

 

That staggered bass motif from that cue is the theme for the slave masters. You heard in the opening battle of the season finale as well.

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I actually found that opening cue in epi 10 to be rather distracting and unimpressive if I'm honest. Elevated simply by virtue of being more articulate and cohesive than normal. 

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Yeah. It was sufficient and enjoyable if only because the music expands beyond the usual monochromatic soundscape of the show.

 

He's done more moving and rousing renditions of the same material in past seasons. The opening cue seemed like a less interesting knockoff of the whole "Dany Saves the Day!!!" schtick we've heard before.

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7 minutes ago, Lonnegan said:

I actually found that opening cue in epi 10 to be rather distracting and unimpressive if I'm honest. Elevated simply by virtue of being more articulate and cohesive than normal. 

 

Exactly. In the context of the rest of the show's music that cue is Adventure On Earth.

But outside of it it's just simplistic if effective TV scoring. Absolutely nothing more.

 

 

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On 7/3/2016 at 7:03 PM, Jay said:

The only themes I've ever noticed when watching the show are the Lannister theme (not sure how anyone couldn't notice that one) and the Danaerys theme...

 

Surely you've also noticed the Stark and Baratheon themes?

 

Here's a list of the distinct themes that I can think of, categorised by the type of thing which they seem to represent. The brown items are those which are prominent enough to feel like main themes while the grey ones are very rare or one-offs.

 

HOUSES

  • Stark
  • Lannister
  • Targaryen
  • Baratheon
  • Greyjoy
  • Bolton
  • Arryn
  • Martell
  • Tyrell

 

MAGICAL PHENOMENA

  • The White Walkers
  • The Dragons
  • The Lord of Light
  • The Three-Eyed Raven

 

INDIVIDUALS

  • Littlefinger
  • Jon Snow Reborn
  •  Brienne (Oathkeeper)
  • Jaime (The Kingslayer)
  • The Hound
  •  The Mountain Reborn
  • Euron

 

COUPLES

  • Marriage Theme
  • Tyrion and Shae
  • Jon and Ygritte
  • Daenerys and Drogo
  • Missandei and Grey Worm

 

INSTITUTIONS AND ORGANISATIONS

  • The Night's Watch
  • The Sons of the Harpy
  • The Sparrows
  • The House of Black and White
  • The Citadel
  • The Warlocks
 
PLACES AND CULTURES
  • Braavos
  • The Dothraki
  • Meereen
  • Craster's Keep
  • Targaryen History
  • The Thenns

 

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11 minutes ago, Glóin the Dark said:

 

Surely you've also noticed the Stark and Baratheon themes?

 

 

Nope, not at all; I don't have a clue in the world what they might sound like.

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Brian Cox turned down a role on Game Of Thrones

 

He turned it down "in the early days".  Does that mean during season 1 or post-season 1?  If post-season 1, I dunno who he could have played - Davos maybe?  Not Stannis as he's way older than the guys who played Robert and Renly.  If it was mid season 1, maybe Tywin, Jorah, or Barristan?

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2 hours ago, Jay said:

If it was mid season 1, maybe Tywin, Jorah, or Barristan?

 

Probably not Tywin, since Charles Dance is one of the three actors that Benioff and Weiss say they wanted from the outset.

 

Jeor Mormont, perhaps? Or, if it was later than Season 1, Craster might be a reasonable fit.

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Season 7 will premiere later than usual, because they have to film it later than usual

 

The reason they have to film it later than usual is so that the countries they film in will have winter weather instead of summer weather, since it is now winter time on the show.

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Another notable thing about that podcast was that they declined to comment on how many episodes Season 7 would have (as far as I can remember).

They weren't specifically asked that question; they were asked how many episodes were left in total, and answered that that hadn't been fully determined yet. But it would have been natural for them to say what the situation with the upcoming season would be, since its structure should (surely) be pretty well established by this stage, even with the later filming schedule. So either they don't yet know how many episodes will be in the season which will begin production fairly soon, or else they're deliberately withholding the information for now.

 

They also said that they know exactly what the forthcoming story will be, and could write the final episode today if they had to. (That's not surprising, but reassuring nonetheless...)

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My guess is that HBO doesn't want them to announce it, not that they don't know it.  HBO could still be hamering out details of actor's contracts, as it could theoretically pay them vastly different sums of money if the remaining episodes are considered two halves of a Season 7 vs a Season 7 and a Season 8.

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Good point. 

 

Still, it's going to be bloody frustrating if there's a 12 month wait after 7-8 episodes - because of the increasingly climatic point we will be at at that time. 

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You don't seem to understand me. What I'm saying is Game of Thrones is beginning to feel like it is dragging out to me and I want it to get to its end. There's been a few occasions in the most recent seasons where it has felt like I was getting tired of the endless back and forths between the large spread of characters (some of them, Daenerys for eg, being completely useless time wasters) and that Game of Thrones might overstay its welcome if it doesn't stop dawdling as far as I am concerned. 

 

Re: Breaking Bad. 

 

No. 

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There were about 4 pedestrian and frankly weak episodes at the beginning of this season in my view and I've forgotten how many similar ones were padded into the season before. 

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Just a baseless hunch: they will end up with a nice, neat series run of 75 episodes. 

 

So 8 episodes next year, 7 episodes in the final season.

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I've found that the show's weaknesses have intensified over the course of the six seasons along with its strengths, with the most recent ones containing some of the most impressive material as well as some of the most disappointing or annoying. (Coincidentally or not, I think that Peter Jackson's The Lord of the Rings follows a similar trajectory over the course of its three parts.) There's no episode from Season 6 that I would describe as "weak" overall; every episode has sufficient strengths among its dodgy aspects to avoid that, though some of them are more mixed than others.

 

1 hour ago, crumbs said:

So 8 episodes next year, 7 episodes in the final season.

 

Or maybe one or two extra-long episodes, with only thirteen or fourteen in total?

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