Disco Stu 15,495 Posted August 23, 2018 Share Posted August 23, 2018 4 minutes ago, Richard said: Yes it was a rushed production: something like nine months from pre, to release. You're mixing this up with The Post. There's no way they got a production this complicated from pre prod to release in 9 months. Filming started 8 months before release and it is literally impossible that they started planning this movie a month ahead. That insane set with the crashed plane alone would've taken a month to plan! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chen G. 3,950 Posted August 23, 2018 Share Posted August 23, 2018 11 minutes ago, Cherry Pie That'll Kill Ya said: It suffers from the same problem as the 2014 Godzilla, it hides what people paid to see. There weren't enough alien attack scenes. See, this kind of respone boggles my mind, regardles of War of the Worlds (which I don't care for very much). The whole idea of highlights in film is that they are savored. How much Hannibal Lecter is there in The Silence of the Lambs? How much is the xenomorph shown in Alien? The aliens in Signs? The Shark in Jaws? No matter how spectacular a visual is, how ferocious a character design looks, how exciting an action beat or camera movement is, or how engaging a piece of drama is - if an audience is exposed to it for enough time, they'll grow used to it, saturated in it and eventually tired of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,551 Posted August 23, 2018 Share Posted August 23, 2018 Pre was three months, and it wrapped three months before it had to be locked. I agree with Jerry: parts of it look rushed...but that doesn't make it a bad film. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted August 23, 2018 Share Posted August 23, 2018 It's not a great film, sadly. But it's far from bad if you ask me. Lower middle tier Spielberg. #19 out of 31 on my list. Chen G. and The Illustrious Jerry 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted August 23, 2018 Share Posted August 23, 2018 3 minutes ago, Chen G. said: See, this kind of respone boggles my mind. The whole idea of highlights in film is that they are savored. How much Hannibal Lecter is there in The Silence of the Lambs? How much is the xenomorph shown in Alien? The aliens in Signs? The Shark in Jaws? No matter how spectacular a visual is, how ferocious a character design looks, how exciting an action beat or camera movement is, or how engaging a piece of drama is - if an audience is exposed to it for enough time, they'll grow used to it, saturated in it and eventually tired of it. When the movie is called "War of the Worlds", I expect to see a goddamn alien war happening, not hiding in basements! Same with Godzilla, it's been 30 friggin movies, he should be the star, why were they hiding him?! Naïve Old Fart 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,551 Posted August 23, 2018 Share Posted August 23, 2018 11 minutes ago, Cherry Pie That'll Kill Ya said: It suffers from the same problem as the 2014 Godzilla, it hides what people paid to see. There weren't enough alien attack scenes... Jerry, Spielberg's films aren't about the big gesture, even though a lot of his films have them. The guy in CE3K says it all: these are ordinary people, in extraordinary circumstances. Nick1Ø66 and SteveMc 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveMc 2,674 Posted August 23, 2018 Share Posted August 23, 2018 The anticlimactic elements are inherent in the source material, to be fair. mstrox 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick1Ø66 4,721 Posted August 23, 2018 Share Posted August 23, 2018 16 minutes ago, Cherry Pie That'll Kill Ya said: It suffers from the same problem as the 2014 Godzilla, it hides what people paid to see. There weren't enough alien attack scenes, and most of it focuses on friggin kitchen sink domestic problems I don't give a shit about. It should have been more about scientists, the government, the military, and given us more of an insight into how authorities responded to the attack. That's Spielberg though, isn't it? I was talking to a friend at the pub last night about how Spielberg has never made a truly "epic" film. Many of his films has had epic backgrounds, but he's not really interested in epic events...he likes telling smaller stories about the people caught up in those events. From Spielberg's POV, showing more of the aliens, the attack, the military response would have been beside the point...and probably not something he was interested in seeing. Not a value judgement, but the kind of film you're describing most likely isn't something Spielberg would be interested in making. SteveMc and Chen G. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted August 23, 2018 Share Posted August 23, 2018 Just now, Richard said: Jerry, Spielberg's films aren't about the big gesture, even though a lot of his films have them. The guy in CE3K says it all: these are ordinary people, in extraordinary circumstances. Yeah I suppose Spoilberg loikes plonking regular people into extraordinary circumstances. Still I'd grown sick of the whole daddy issues in his movies by that point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Illustrious Jerry 3,356 Posted August 23, 2018 Share Posted August 23, 2018 5 minutes ago, Richard said: I agree with Jerry. As do I. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,551 Posted August 23, 2018 Share Posted August 23, 2018 1 minute ago, Steve McQueen said: The anticlimactic elements are inherent in the source material, to be fair. Yes, yes, to JEFF WAYNE'S "WAR OF THE WORLDS" you listen! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted August 23, 2018 Share Posted August 23, 2018 I like to think of Lincoln as his ultimate daddy issues movie, as an entire nation wrestles with the legacy of its Founding Fathers I'm sorry. That was bad even for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted August 23, 2018 Share Posted August 23, 2018 2 minutes ago, Nick1066 said: That's Spielberg though, isn't it? I was talking to a friend at the pub last night about how Spielberg has never made a truly "epic" film. Many of his films has had epic backgrounds, but he's not really interested in epic events...he likes telling smaller stories about the people caught up in those events. From Spielberg's POV, showing more of the aliens, the attack, the military response would have been beside the point...and probably not something he was interested in seeing. Not a value judgement, but the kind of film you're describing most likely isn't something Spielberg would be interested in making. Yeah Roland Emmerich already succeeded at it in '96. But then he tried it again in '16 and made a shitshow. ID4 was a fluke. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick1Ø66 4,721 Posted August 23, 2018 Share Posted August 23, 2018 1 minute ago, Disco Stu said: I like to think of Lincoln as his ultimate daddy issues movie, as an entire nation wrestles with the legacy of its Founding Fathers I'm sorry. That was bad even for me. That was bad even for Jurassic Shark. Disco Stu 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chen G. 3,950 Posted August 23, 2018 Share Posted August 23, 2018 13 minutes ago, Cherry Pie That'll Kill Ya said: When the movie is called "War of the Worlds", I expect to see a goddamn alien war happening, not hiding in basements! Same with Godzilla, it's been 30 friggin movies, he should be the star, why were they hiding him?! I always caution against taking too much of a lead from a film's title as to its content. To my mind, the title is a marketing element, first and foremost. Its part of the brand, as it were. More often that not, it has little bearing on the actual plot. To take a few of my own examples: What does the title "The Silence of the Lambs" tell you about the plot film? What does the title of Signs tell you? The thing that tells you what a film is or isn't is the opening two sequences, and even then a film often "turns" significantly at the midpoint, as indeed War of the Worlds does. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick1Ø66 4,721 Posted August 23, 2018 Share Posted August 23, 2018 2 minutes ago, Chen G. said: I always caution against taking too much of a lead from a film's title as to its content. To my mind, the title is a marketing element, first and foremost - its part of the brand, as it were. More often that not, it has little bearing on the actual plot. Well Spielberg was pretty stuck with that title anyway, huh? It's not like he could call it "War with my Dad". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,551 Posted August 23, 2018 Share Posted August 23, 2018 Why was that bad, Stu? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted August 23, 2018 Share Posted August 23, 2018 Just now, Nick1066 said: That was bad even for Jurassic Shark. Too far! Nick1Ø66 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Illustrious Jerry 3,356 Posted August 23, 2018 Share Posted August 23, 2018 It doesn't help that I'm not a fan of Tom Cruise. 1 minute ago, Disco Stu said: Too far! He is a bold one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveMc 2,674 Posted August 23, 2018 Share Posted August 23, 2018 6 minutes ago, Richard said: these are ordinary people, in extraordinary circumstances. This is the essence of good storytelling, btw. Naïve Old Fart and Chen G. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,551 Posted August 23, 2018 Share Posted August 23, 2018 Speaking of good storytelling, where's Chief O'Hallahan gone? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chen G. 3,950 Posted August 23, 2018 Share Posted August 23, 2018 19 hours ago, Nick1066 said: Well Spielberg was pretty stuck with that title anyway, huh? It's not like he could call it "War with my Dad". Yeah, but this issue with titles is as true to books as it is to films. The title is meant to draw people into the work, more than it is meant to inform them of the work's actual content, which is fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted August 23, 2018 Share Posted August 23, 2018 Some of my favorite movies are ordinary people in pretty ordinary circumstances! Maybe I'll try categorizing all movies in one of four categories OE. Ordinary people in extraordinary circumstances OO. Ordinary people in ordinary circumstances EE Extraordinary people in extraordinary circumstances EO. Extraordinary people in ordinary circumstances Chen G. and _deleted_ 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveMc 2,674 Posted August 23, 2018 Share Posted August 23, 2018 1 minute ago, Richard said: Speaking of good storytelling, where's Chief O'Hallahan gone? He'll come back. Just showing my appreciation for Michael Steele for a bit. Just now, Disco Stu said: Some of my favorite movies are ordinary people in pretty ordinary circumstances! Ordinary circumstances can become extraordinary if you face them in unique ways. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,551 Posted August 23, 2018 Share Posted August 23, 2018 1 minute ago, Disco Stu said: Some of my favorite movies are ordinary people in pretty ordinary circumstances! Maybe I'll try categorizing all movies in one of three OE. Ordinary people in extraordinary circumstances OO. Ordinary people in ordinary circumstances EE Extraordinary people in extraordinary circumstances EO. Extraordinary people in ordinary circumstances Er...that's four. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted August 23, 2018 Share Posted August 23, 2018 So... deliberate false advertising? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted August 23, 2018 Share Posted August 23, 2018 Just now, Richard said: Er...that's four. You caught me before the edit! Naïve Old Fart 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick1Ø66 4,721 Posted August 23, 2018 Share Posted August 23, 2018 3 minutes ago, Chen G. said: Yeah, but this issue with titles is as true to books as it is to films. The title is meant to draw people into the work, more than it is meant to inform them of the work's actual content. No kidding. I still think The Neverending Story was false advertising. Chen G. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted August 23, 2018 Share Posted August 23, 2018 1 minute ago, Nick1066 said: No kidding. I still think The Neverending Story was false advertising. Now who's Sharking?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Illustrious Jerry 3,356 Posted August 23, 2018 Share Posted August 23, 2018 7 minutes ago, Steve McQueen said: This is the essence of good storytelling, btw. So Star Wars is safe! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,551 Posted August 23, 2018 Share Posted August 23, 2018 Now that's too far. The Illustrious Jerry 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Illustrious Jerry 3,356 Posted August 23, 2018 Share Posted August 23, 2018 Rey, the nobody from nowhere, a girl who had never held a lightsaber, bested Kylo Ren. _deleted_ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveMc 2,674 Posted August 23, 2018 Share Posted August 23, 2018 She's kind of extraordinary. That's part of the problem. She needed more time to become. _deleted_ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted August 23, 2018 Share Posted August 23, 2018 Girl powah! _deleted_ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveMc 2,674 Posted August 23, 2018 Share Posted August 23, 2018 All for it! But the journey must still be difficult. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,551 Posted August 23, 2018 Share Posted August 23, 2018 1 minute ago, Cherry Pie That'll Kill Ya said: Girl powah! I'll tell you what I want, what I really, really want. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted August 23, 2018 Share Posted August 23, 2018 1 minute ago, Richard said: I'll tell you what I want, what I really, really want. Yo tell me what you want what you really really want! Naïve Old Fart 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted August 23, 2018 Share Posted August 23, 2018 2 minutes ago, Steve McQueen said: All for it! But the journey must still be difficult. No! Women are perfect! They must be worshipped and put on pedestals for us all to grovel to! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Illustrious Jerry 3,356 Posted August 23, 2018 Share Posted August 23, 2018 6 minutes ago, Steve McQueen said: She's kind of extraordinary. That's part of the problem. She needed more time to become. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick1Ø66 4,721 Posted August 23, 2018 Share Posted August 23, 2018 6 minutes ago, Cherry Pie That'll Kill Ya said: No! Women are perfect! They must be worshipped and put on pedestals for us all to grovel to! Sounds good to me! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
_deleted_ 203 Posted August 23, 2018 Share Posted August 23, 2018 Right after War of the Worlds (2005)... Home Alone!!! Somewhere in my memory... All of the music, all of the magic ... segue into Harry’s Wondrous World plus a quote of Hedwig’s Theme on the Horns Christmasy and heroic!!!! [Sugar overload...] because I was literally home alone🙇🏻♂️ 👻 gif saved for later use😉 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Illustrious Jerry 3,356 Posted August 23, 2018 Share Posted August 23, 2018 My favourite part of that gif is the blurry guy in the back trying to sleep. Holko and _deleted_ 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
_deleted_ 203 Posted August 23, 2018 Share Posted August 23, 2018 that guy looks like Jack Bauer from 24 lol my eyes... need new glasses🙇🏻♂️ 👻 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Marian Schedenig 8,207 Posted August 23, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted August 23, 2018 2 hours ago, Disco Stu said: EO. Extraordinary people in ordinary circumstances ...or is that... 2 hours ago, Disco Stu said: OE. Ordinary people in extraordinary circumstances Naïve Old Fart, Holko and Disco Stu 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted August 23, 2018 Share Posted August 23, 2018 Is there a British phrase funnier than "quantity surveyor"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marian Schedenig 8,207 Posted August 23, 2018 Share Posted August 23, 2018 12 minutes ago, Disco Stu said: Is there a British phrase funnier than "quantity surveyor"? "Gorn". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Illustrious Jerry 3,356 Posted August 23, 2018 Share Posted August 23, 2018 "Blimey!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted August 23, 2018 Share Posted August 23, 2018 1 minute ago, Marian Schedenig said: "Gorn". The source of my love of "quantity surveyor" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,551 Posted August 23, 2018 Share Posted August 23, 2018 4 hours ago, Disco Stu said: Yo tell me what you want what you really really want! I wanna, I wanna, I wanna, I wanna, I wanna really, really, really, wanna zing-a-zing-ah. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted August 23, 2018 Share Posted August 23, 2018 55 minutes ago, Richard said: I wanna, I wanna, I wanna, I wanna, I wanna really, really, really, wanna zing-a-zing-ah. The best British pop ever brought forth! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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