publicist 4,643 Posted August 28, 2017 Share Posted August 28, 2017 Will 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted August 29, 2017 Share Posted August 29, 2017 Been listening to this album today. Great stuff. Fun to see classical-folk crossover. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post karelm 2,914 Posted August 29, 2017 Popular Post Share Posted August 29, 2017 One of my favorites, the deeply moving and unsettling Babi Yar Symphony of Shostakovich. This music is not for everyone. You must really stop what your doing and experience it to get it, its context, subtext, humanity, and depth. I saw the poet, Yevgeny Yevtushenko, when Sir George Solti first performed this symphony a year before his death and it was a shattering experience to hear it live with the poet in attendance. Solti had to preface the performance as saying he stayed away from the work until the mid 1990's where he performed it for the first time because of his Jewish heritage and the personal meaning of the work. The work is not Jewish but about oppression in any form though the first movement is about the Nazi massacre at Babi Yar. Other movements are about the soviet oppression of artists and freedom and the suffering the Russian people have experienced. As usual, I can't find my favorite interpretation on youtube but this one hits all the high notes of being well performed, recorded, and interpreted though not the absolute best in any of these. The performance I attended resulted in this recording which rather jarringly features the poems between movements as read by Anthony Hopkins: https://www.amazon.com/Shostakovich-Symphony-No-13-Solti/dp/B00000427B Another gem: publicist, Loert and Saxbabe 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will 2,215 Posted August 30, 2017 Share Posted August 30, 2017 Dixon Hill 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted August 30, 2017 Share Posted August 30, 2017 righteous riffz dudebrah If there was a "The Classical Music WTF?! Thread" I'd post this there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will 2,215 Posted September 1, 2017 Share Posted September 1, 2017 Great stuff. Dixon Hill 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,251 Posted September 1, 2017 Share Posted September 1, 2017 Dixon Hill and Not Mr. Big 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will 2,215 Posted September 1, 2017 Share Posted September 1, 2017 Sounds a lot like Williams' terrific trumpet concerto, particularly at the beginning! Saxbabe 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will 2,215 Posted September 3, 2017 Share Posted September 3, 2017 (As you may have noticed I'm going through a bit of an Adams phase) Saxbabe 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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nightscape94 965 Posted September 10, 2017 Share Posted September 10, 2017 Since I was in the Rozsa mood today, I moved onto his violin and viola concertos. publicist 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Omen II 1,235 Posted September 10, 2017 Share Posted September 10, 2017 From yesterday's Last Night of the Proms, something that @Incanus, @hornist and any other resident Finns might enjoy - Sibelius's Finlandia with Finnish conductor Sakari Oramo leading the BBC Symphony Orchestra, BBC Symphony Chorus and BBC Singers. Joni Wiljami 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nightscape94 965 Posted September 10, 2017 Share Posted September 10, 2017 Oramo looks like he's enjoying himself in that thumbnail. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
karelm 2,914 Posted September 11, 2017 Share Posted September 11, 2017 6 hours ago, Omen II said: From yesterday's Last Night of the Proms, something that @Incanus, @hornist and any other resident Finns might enjoy - Sibelius's Finlandia with Finnish conductor Sakari Oramo leading the BBC Symphony Orchestra, BBC Symphony Chorus and BBC Singers. This is a candidate for the most popular worst piece by a great composer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joni Wiljami 1,206 Posted September 11, 2017 Share Posted September 11, 2017 Well it is more than just a worst piece of a composer. There is a story behind it. The performance was also part of the 100th anniversary celebration of Finland Goosebumps and tears. Kudos that the choir had learnt it in finish!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
karelm 2,914 Posted September 12, 2017 Share Posted September 12, 2017 I would like to 21 hours ago, hornist said: Well it is more than just a worst piece of a composer. There is a story behind it. The performance was also part of the 100th anniversary celebration of Finland Goosebumps and tears. Kudos that the choir had learnt it in finish!! But I am speaking purely musically here. Did Sibelius even like it? “everyone else cheers what, compared with my other work, is this relatively insignificant piece.” I am in agreement with Sibelius on this. Don't get me wrong, I adore Sibelius - he is one of my top five favorite composers. This work is not the reason why. I would like to present the work of the very fine composer Derek Bourgeois who sadly passed away this week at the age of 75. Derek was the most prolific British symphonist having composed 116 symphonies and works in every genre. Unfortunately, only his first seven symphonies were performed by orchestra by some of the most distinguished conductors including Sir Adrian Boult, Vernon Handley, Sir Charles Groves, and others. He held the same position of Music Director at Saint Paul's Girls School that Gustav Holst held (in fact had the same office and desk). Like Holst who wrote Saint Paul's Suite for Strings for that school, Derek wrote works for them. Derek was a John Williams fan as well. A good review of his body of work up to 2009 can be read here: https://www.theguardian.com/music/2009/feb/09/derek-bourgeois-symphonies Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Saxbabe 28 Posted September 14, 2017 Share Posted September 14, 2017 Man y'all posted all the good stuff while I was away from this thread! Seems like a lot of us here like exactly the same composers. Guess that shouldn't be a surprise for film music lovers! On 9/10/2017 at 1:15 PM, Omen II said: From yesterday's Last Night of the Proms, something that @Incanus, @hornist and any other resident Finns might enjoy - Sibelius's Finlandia with Finnish conductor Sakari Oramo leading the BBC Symphony Orchestra, BBC Symphony Chorus and BBC Singers. Oh Finlandia! Rousing but yeah I'd put it way down in my favorites of Sibelius works, too many better ones. With the Centenary a great choice for Last Night of Proms though! ...And now y'all done made me fall down the hole of early Sibelius works here, which is always super dangerous...some of his most fiery, sexy, groovy, entrancing, unabashedly heart-on-the sleeve writing If you're not familiar with these two key early Sibelius works below, you REALLY MUST LISTEN TO THESE. Because they are so epic/filmic/programmatic and flipping great, and just hard not to adore if you love film music. To me these are basically his "Symphony 00" and "Symphony 0". The Lemminkainen Suite ("Four Legends from the Kalevala"), written around 1895 and based on the crazy adventures of the Kalevala hero Lemminkainen, has 4 parts - often played all together but just as often played separately, with "The Swan of Tuonela" by far the most well-known and played, followed by "Lemminkainen's Return", I rarely if ever see the first two played on their own. The first "Lemminkainen and the Maidens of Saari" is my favorite! I definitely hear Wagner influence in this one, the whole thing is one long slow extremely romantic build (reminds me of Tristan's Liebestod), all dripping with turns and gracenotes and delayed gratification (eventually he does romance the maids). There should be links off of this vid if you want to hear the other Legends too. They are all awesome. Next - now this work came even before Lemminkainen, this is about the equally crazy and extremely tragic adventures of Kullervo (who's also from The Kalevala, the Finnish national epic) and it was written around 1892, for full orchestra and also male choir. Yeah! This also has 5 parts, sometimes the 3rd movement is performed alone, it's like a mini choral symphony itself and definitely can stand on its own. The 3rd mvmt is all about how Kullervo has a lot of travels, meets some nice girls, then hits it off with one, woos her into the hay, and the next morning they get chatting and discover oh SURPRISE, you're my long-lost sister! (And then she offs herself.) But anyway, it's AMAZING music! It's in 5/4 yeah!! That movement is one of my favorite things in all of Sibelius. There is just not much that beats a whole bunch of red-blooded guys singing Finnish - definition of epic. I can't help always singing along with the choir. Yes, I know the words in Finnish! I'm a total nerd Here is a great great performance of the whole piece (I have several recordings and this is a big favorite, the interpretation, detail and playing is so spot on) - Timings for each movement: Introduction 0:00 Kullervo's Youth 13:50 Kullervo and His Sister 28:50 (the choir comes in at 30:25, if you want to jump to that I don't blame you I also won't blame you if you jump to 39:27 to hear some of the most explicit classical music ever written) Kullervo Goes To War 53:06 Kullervo's Death 1:02:55 There's just SO much good Sibelius, oodles and oodles, all better than Finlandia karelm and Omen II 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
karelm 2,914 Posted September 14, 2017 Share Posted September 14, 2017 10 hours ago, Saxbabe said: There's just SO much good Sibelius, oodles and oodles, all better than Finlandia This. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loert 2,515 Posted September 15, 2017 Share Posted September 15, 2017 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loert 2,515 Posted September 17, 2017 Share Posted September 17, 2017 I want to learn this someday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will 2,215 Posted September 17, 2017 Share Posted September 17, 2017 Last night, while reading through the music credits after watching Song to Song (which is mostly tracked with an eclectic mix of existing pop and classical selections, in addition to some new Hanan Townshend stuff) I discovered this incredible Ravel piece: The ending reminds me of the ending of Howard Hanson's Symphony #2, which is probably my favorite symphony. So that's another plus from the film! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loert 2,515 Posted September 17, 2017 Share Posted September 17, 2017 2 minutes ago, Will said: Last night, while reading through the music credits after watching Song to Song (which is mostly tracked with an eclectic mix of existing pop and classical selections, in addition to some new Hanan Townshend stuff) I discovered this incredible Ravel piece: The ending is kinda Christmas-y, no? If you liked that then you might also like the last movement of Mahler's 3rd Symphony - more harmonically conservative than the Ravel, but it always brings a tear to my eye. Will 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted September 17, 2017 Share Posted September 17, 2017 I always enjoy how Dudamel looks like a giddy schoolboy when he's conducting. Will 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nightscape94 965 Posted September 17, 2017 Share Posted September 17, 2017 The whole Mother Goose suite is brilliant and beautiful, but Le jardin féerique is breathtaking. karelm and Will 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will 2,215 Posted September 17, 2017 Share Posted September 17, 2017 5 hours ago, Loert said: The ending is kinda Christmas-y, no? If you liked that then you might also like the last movement of Mahler's 3rd Symphony - more harmonically conservative than the Ravel, but it always brings a tear to my eye. Just listened to that - great stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
karelm 2,914 Posted September 17, 2017 Share Posted September 17, 2017 5 hours ago, Loert said: The ending is kinda Christmas-y, no? No. Do you define this as christmas y? All of Ravel's Ma Mere l'oye is glorious and sublime music. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loert 2,515 Posted September 17, 2017 Share Posted September 17, 2017 2 minutes ago, karelm said: No. Do you define this as christmas y? No, not really. It's the combination of "bells" and harp which makes it sound Christmas-y to me. Stuff like this or this or this. Will 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
karelm 2,914 Posted September 18, 2017 Share Posted September 18, 2017 14 hours ago, Loert said: No, not really. It's the combination of "bells" and harp which makes it sound Christmas-y to me. Stuff like this or this or this. Hmm, ok, none of your examples sounded christmasy to me. So I think it is just you. To me, the most christmasy music is Nutcracker and this Christmas sequence from Arthur Bliss's sci-fi epic "Things to Come" because the bells play the scale of the christmas tune where the bells actually play part of the theme of a Christmas choral I forget which one: Don't associate bells with Christmas, they can also be associated with doom or resurrection as was done in Mahler or in Shostakovich. It can be a potent and devastating representation of death too. Do you find Borus Godinov coronation scene christmasy? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will 2,215 Posted September 18, 2017 Share Posted September 18, 2017 I have to say I agree with Loert here. But I see your point Karelm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will 2,215 Posted September 21, 2017 Share Posted September 21, 2017 Was recently introduced to this when I read it was the temp track for Witt's death in The Thin Red Line: Beautiful. Sounds a little similar to Zimmer's terrific "Light" cue, specifically the part that plays during the "wife flashbacks" scene while the character walks through the trees. The final music used for Witt's death in the film does not sound similar at all, however. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted September 22, 2017 Share Posted September 22, 2017 Not sure whose recording this is, but it's a wonderful performance of such a fun little arrangement by Shostakovich. EDIT: I believe it's the Royal Concertgebouw Orchestra, so of course it's good Loert 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marian Schedenig 8,208 Posted September 23, 2017 Share Posted September 23, 2017 Seems to be this recording, yes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Parker 3,040 Posted September 23, 2017 Share Posted September 23, 2017 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nightscape94 965 Posted September 24, 2017 Share Posted September 24, 2017 Henry Cowell - The Snows of Fujiyama Looked him up after hearing Williams mention him in an interview. Most of what I heard is not my cup of tea, but this is kind of a hypnotic piece. Loert and Will 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loert 2,515 Posted September 24, 2017 Share Posted September 24, 2017 Cowell was a bit of an eccentric, musically speaking. Who would've thought to represent crashing waves against the cliffs by pressing your left arm on the keyboard? That said, my "favourite" piece of his I've heard is this: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muad'Dib 1,802 Posted September 25, 2017 Author Share Posted September 25, 2017 I adore the first movement Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will 2,215 Posted September 26, 2017 Share Posted September 26, 2017 Wow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon Hill 4,234 Posted September 26, 2017 Share Posted September 26, 2017 Eric is an extraordinarily sensitive and deeply human composer, criminally written off by some as just another muzak/pseudoclassical guy. Utter lunacy to think he should even be mentioned with some of the usual suspects of that ilk like Karl Jenkins. That said, the BYU performance you linked has awful, awful, awful, awful diction. Can't stand their pronunciations. Recommend his own group's performance, with much more refined diction, clarity of tone, and far more tasteful vibrato than any wholly American choir seems capable of. Here, and with score so you can appreciate the very fine part writing. Sharkissimo and Will 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bespin 8,484 Posted September 26, 2017 Share Posted September 26, 2017 I finally decided myself to buy this book... so the tic-toc is started ! http://www.arkivmusic.com/classical/album.jsp?album_id=1664979 Symphony no 3 by Aaron Copland Conductor: Carlos Kalmar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted September 26, 2017 Share Posted September 26, 2017 One of my favorite pieces of music of any genre. Bespin 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bespin 8,484 Posted September 26, 2017 Share Posted September 26, 2017 That's not the recommended version of the book, but I can't find it. Anyway, that's a recommendation on http://www.arkivmusic.com. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted September 26, 2017 Share Posted September 26, 2017 Which version did the book recommend? Bernstein with the NY Phil? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bespin 8,484 Posted September 26, 2017 Share Posted September 26, 2017 This version https://www.discogs.com/fr/Aaron-Copland-New-York-Philharmonic-Leonard-Bernstein-Symphony-No-3-Quiet-City/release/1054419 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted September 26, 2017 Share Posted September 26, 2017 Yeah that's the version I have (from a Sony Classical 3-disc compilation of Copland works though) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bespin 8,484 Posted September 26, 2017 Share Posted September 26, 2017 Well if it's Sony, you got the first recordings, not the 2nd as on DG album, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted September 26, 2017 Share Posted September 26, 2017 You're right. This is the version on my Sony compilation I think: https://www.discogs.com/Aaron-Copland-Conducts-Philharmonia-Orchestra-Copland-Conducts-Copland-Symphony-No-3/release/5625080 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bespin 8,484 Posted September 27, 2017 Share Posted September 27, 2017 Music to inspire reflection for later today. Samuel Barber - Adagio for Strings (Slatkins, St. Louis SO) M. Ravel - Intégrale de l'oeuvre pour piano (Tharaud) G. Mahler - Das Lied von der Erde (Klemperer, 1967) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted September 27, 2017 Share Posted September 27, 2017 For its season opener this past weekend, the New York Philharmonic performed Philip Glass’s "Concerto for Two Pianos and Orchestra." Amazingly, it is the first time ever that the NY Phil has performed a piece by Glass. I shouldn't be shocked, but for some reason I am. https://www.nytimes.com/2017/09/24/arts/music/new-york-philharmonic-jaap-van-zweden-philip-glass-mahler.html?rref=collection%2Fspotlightcollection%2Fclassical-music-reviews Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bespin 8,484 Posted September 28, 2017 Share Posted September 28, 2017 A very special and very soft recording. The signer died of cancer shortly after this recording. Ich habe genug (original: Ich habe genung, English: "I have enough" or "I am content"), BWV 82 Mein Herze schwimmt im Blut (English: My heart swims in blood) BWV 199 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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