Incanus 5,714 Posted November 21, 2013 Share Posted November 21, 2013 The superlative compliment for DoS would be "just like LotR".I am now expecting the publicist to swoop in with some sardonic/acerbic remark on the quality of LotR scores. SafeUnderHill 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gkgyver 1,645 Posted November 21, 2013 Author Share Posted November 21, 2013 We all now Shore's LotR is the one and only superlative all scores will ever be measured against Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon Hill 4,234 Posted November 21, 2013 Share Posted November 21, 2013 The superlative compliment for DoS would be "just like LotR".I am now expecting the publicist to swoop in with some sardonic/acerbic remark on the quality of LotR scores. He will break upon this topic like water on rock. Publicist's hordes will critique and nitpick, we've seen it before. Conversations can be refocused, posts edited. Within this thread... we will outlast them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,714 Posted November 21, 2013 Share Posted November 21, 2013 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SafeUnderHill 205 Posted November 21, 2013 Share Posted November 21, 2013 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gkgyver 1,645 Posted November 21, 2013 Author Share Posted November 21, 2013 What would Theoden do in a video of The Woodland Realm? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faleel 5,348 Posted November 21, 2013 Share Posted November 21, 2013 Inky's post talkes a while to load, so it shows a blank screen, then a black video space for a few minutes before Theoden's image appears. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon Hill 4,234 Posted November 21, 2013 Share Posted November 21, 2013 Haven't you heard? He's allied with Thranduil in DoS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KK 3,307 Posted November 21, 2013 Share Posted November 21, 2013 Is that the explanation we'll get when "The Ride of Rohirrim" starts playing during the barrel sequence? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bilbo 3,709 Posted November 21, 2013 Share Posted November 21, 2013 Is that the explanation we'll get when "The Ride of Rohirrim" starts playing during the barrel sequence? Someone will believe you now! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted November 21, 2013 Share Posted November 21, 2013 The Ride Of The Barrelhim! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faleel 5,348 Posted November 22, 2013 Share Posted November 22, 2013 Longer samples!https://soundcloud.com/watertowermusic/the-hobbit-the-desolation-of Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon Hill 4,234 Posted November 22, 2013 Share Posted November 22, 2013 Woohoo! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faleel 5,348 Posted November 22, 2013 Share Posted November 22, 2013 Listen to Beyond The Forest! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joni Wiljami 1,206 Posted November 22, 2013 Share Posted November 22, 2013 I got bored in the introduction, after nine different minor chords. Then started the Shire music. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon Hill 4,234 Posted November 22, 2013 Share Posted November 22, 2013 Oh my goodness. Just 30 seconds more per cue and yet my excitement has magnified immensely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glóin the Dark 1,221 Posted November 22, 2013 Share Posted November 22, 2013 I got bored in the introduction, after nine different minor chords. Then started the Shire music.Personally, I was hoping for a minor key Shire... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joni Wiljami 1,206 Posted November 22, 2013 Share Posted November 22, 2013 Now that would have been brilliant!! Glóin the Dark 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon Hill 4,234 Posted November 22, 2013 Share Posted November 22, 2013 Some wonderfully weird stuff during the Smaug cues. And yes... Beyond the Forest made me swoon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luke905 18 Posted November 22, 2013 Share Posted November 22, 2013 The theme from Beyond the Forest (which returns several times in the score) looks really wonderful and the new arrangements of the main and sub theme for Smaug are a little masterpiece, able to perfectly describe the various aspects of literary personality (hoping that is reflected also in the film) of the dragon (when it comes in at full power in My Armor is Iron I was going to have a heart attack!). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gkgyver 1,645 Posted November 22, 2013 Author Share Posted November 22, 2013 Now that would have been brilliant!!Not sure if you're joking, but there are minor variations in LotR. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex Shore 83 Posted November 22, 2013 Share Posted November 22, 2013 The Forest River!! RELEASE HOWARD SHORE!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gkgyver 1,645 Posted November 22, 2013 Author Share Posted November 22, 2013 I know some people don't like what they call simplicity in his music, but damn is it good to hear clean, untampered trumpets in action music these days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SafeUnderHill 205 Posted November 22, 2013 Share Posted November 22, 2013 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lewya 360 Posted November 22, 2013 Share Posted November 22, 2013 Wow, listening now =] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glóin the Dark 1,221 Posted November 22, 2013 Share Posted November 22, 2013 Now that would have been brilliant!!Not sure if you're joking, but there are minor variations in LotR.Well, yeah, but I was thinking of a more direct incarnation of the main "Shire" melody, but minorised.Is that the "Evil Times" motif just before it?Edit: Actually, the same "Evil Times"-like fragment appears later in the On the Doorstep clip. Perhaps it refers to something more specific... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bilbo 3,709 Posted November 22, 2013 Share Posted November 22, 2013 What a nice surprise A bit of Nature's Reclamation at the very end of The High Fells? Perhaps when we see the moth? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted November 22, 2013 Share Posted November 22, 2013 The moth? Again?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bilbo 3,709 Posted November 22, 2013 Share Posted November 22, 2013 Yeah, you've seen The High Fells scene by now surely? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted November 22, 2013 Share Posted November 22, 2013 That was a bird, not a moth! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bilbo 3,709 Posted November 22, 2013 Share Posted November 22, 2013 Was it? I thought it was a moth! It was pretty grainy footage mind!Was loving My Armour is Iron and really getting into it and then... Ed Sheeran Although the song is growing on me it still doesn't work for me.Beyond the forest is beautiful. Would be funny if it was Tauriel's theme or Tauriel's love theme or something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barnald 365 Posted November 22, 2013 Share Posted November 22, 2013 Love that bit at the end of 'On The Doorstep', with the newly developed Erebor theme going into Thorin's theme.That 'Dwarrowdelf' sounding theme in 'In the Shadow of the Mountain' is great. It didn't develop quite how I wanted it to there, but it definitely seems to be hinting at something more. Since Doug said it is an important new theme, I'm hoping Shore is going to do something special with it in TABA.Interesting to hear hints of the History of the Ring in that Necromancer track. I'm very intrigued as to why they'd show a scene involving him so early in the film, almost certainly without Radagast and Gandalf's involvement. Something involving Azog perhaps, or an early introduction to Thrain?The Smaug material is excellent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bilbo 3,709 Posted November 22, 2013 Share Posted November 22, 2013 Love that bit at the end of 'On The Doorstep', with the newly developed Erebor theme going into Thorin's theme.That 'Dwarrowdelf' sounding theme in 'In the Shadow of the Mountain' is great. It didn't develop quite how I wanted it to there, but it definitely seems to be hinting at something more. Since Doug said it is an important new theme, I'm hoping Shore is going to do something special with it in TABA.Interesting to hear hints of the History of the Ring in that Necromancer track. I'm very intrigued as to why they'd show a scene involving him so early in the film, almost certainly without Radagast and Gandalf's involvement. Something involving Azog perhaps, or an early introduction to Thrain?The Smaug material is excellent.Yes I did note the History of the Ring theme stuff. It hints at it but never fully develops. Quite interested to see where that goes.Barrels out of Bond is amazing. I know there's nothing really new there but Bilbo stuff!Is there a bit of Smaug's theme in the Necromancer track as well?I know this is only a small portion of the score but I think it's interesting that there's not real hint of the Plan 9 melody.Also some ring material in "Mirkwood" but I imagine that's connected to Bilbo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barnald 365 Posted November 22, 2013 Share Posted November 22, 2013 Is that the Laketown theme we hear in the latter half of Durin's Folk?What I presume is Bard's theme seems to feature in a couple of tracks, but we knew that already. Interesting to see if it relates to anything in 'Girion, Lord of Dale'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bilbo 3,709 Posted November 22, 2013 Share Posted November 22, 2013 I thought Thrice Welcome was the Laketown theme? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barnald 365 Posted November 22, 2013 Share Posted November 22, 2013 It is, but it sounds like a variation of it to me (I'm probably hearing things though - it happens a lot). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bilbo 3,709 Posted November 22, 2013 Share Posted November 22, 2013 Actually just came across the bit you were talking about and yeah sounds like you're right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barnald 365 Posted November 22, 2013 Share Posted November 22, 2013 'Quest of Erebor' is only 3:22 long, and just over a minute of that will be taken up by logos, credits and titles. I can't imagine the beginning being just over 2 minutes long, given that we'll need dialogue scenes and flashbacks. I'm guessing the soundtrack won't contain all the music for this sequence (I wonder if some of the music in the film will be tracked, and it was omitted for that reason) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gkgyver 1,645 Posted November 22, 2013 Author Share Posted November 22, 2013 Two Towers opening wasn't much longer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barnald 365 Posted November 22, 2013 Share Posted November 22, 2013 That's true, but it was a lot more straightforward. Here we'll have the meeting in Bree framework with flashbacks worked in. I envisaged perhaps a 4-5 minute sequence in all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted November 22, 2013 Share Posted November 22, 2013 Here we'll have the meeting in Bree framework with flashbacks worked in.Wait! Where did they say that (I mean, the flashbacks bit)? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barnald 365 Posted November 22, 2013 Share Posted November 22, 2013 Here we'll have the meeting in Bree framework with flashbacks worked in.Wait! Where did they say that (I mean, the flashbacks bit)?Well it's not confirmed, but surely this is where we'd find out about Thrain, and how Gandalf got the map and key, so as to set up his encounter with Thrain at Dol Guldur? Unless they have him tell the story at Beorn's house (which is a possibility, given that they were going to do the Azanulbizar flashback there at one point) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Incanus 5,714 Posted November 22, 2013 Share Posted November 22, 2013 The longer samples sound very good indeed! There is an interesting Soul of the Ultimate Nation vibe to some of the action music, which is a good thing as that score contains some of Shore's best action writing in my opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Skywalker 1,795 Posted November 22, 2013 Share Posted November 22, 2013 The music is fine. THE HARPSICHORD MUST GO! It damages the integrity of the Middle Earth soundscape! Maybe it is the dulcimer (by reading the liner notes...)...but for me, the background rythm of concerning hobbits sounds very 'baroque' and it has a similar sound as a harpsicord.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,714 Posted November 22, 2013 Share Posted November 22, 2013 The music is fine. THE HARPSICHORD MUST GO! It damages the integrity of the Middle Earth soundscape! Maybe it is the dulcimer (by reading the liner notes...)...but for me, the background rythm of concerning hobbits sounds very 'baroque' and it has a similar sound as a harpsicord....It is clavichord Manuel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Skywalker 1,795 Posted November 22, 2013 Share Posted November 22, 2013 The music is fine. THE HARPSICHORD MUST GO! It damages the integrity of the Middle Earth soundscape! Maybe it is the dulcimer (by reading the liner notes...)...but for me, the background rythm of concerning hobbits sounds very 'baroque' and it has a similar sound as a harpsicord....It is clavichord Manuel.the one in FOTR or the one in DOS?Doug doesnt mention it in the analisys...though i did just a quick read...(if it is a clavichord in DOS, then it is perfect, isnt it?) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted November 22, 2013 Share Posted November 22, 2013 It's a dulcichord. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lewya 360 Posted November 22, 2013 Share Posted November 22, 2013 Will Shore get an academy nomination for this? I want him to win Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,714 Posted November 22, 2013 Share Posted November 22, 2013 The music is fine. THE HARPSICHORD MUST GO! It damages the integrity of the Middle Earth soundscape! Maybe it is the dulcimer (by reading the liner notes...)...but for me, the background rythm of concerning hobbits sounds very 'baroque' and it has a similar sound as a harpsicord....It is clavichord Manuel.the one in FOTR or the one in DOS?Doug doesnt mention it in the analisys...though i did just a quick read...(if it is a clavichord in DOS, then it is perfect, isnt it?)Clavichord will be used in DoS.I really wonder what will the theme heard in Beyond the Forest stand for. Gorgeous stuff, which reminded me a lot of Bilbo's Song. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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