#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted September 22, 2014 Share Posted September 22, 2014 One of the more annoying aspects of the prequels was revisiting so many of the planets from the OT, making some supposedly "middle of nowhere" places became seemingly central to everything important that happens in the galaxyRemind me, apart from Tatooine, what planets from the OT did they visit in the prequels? Alderaan maybe, but what others? I can't recall. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,373 Posted September 22, 2014 Share Posted September 22, 2014 The only new planets they invented for the PT where Naboo, Kamino, Geonosis, Utapau, Mustafar.Tatooine, Coruscant, Alderaan, Kashyyyk, Dagobah, were all seen or mentioned in the OT or classic EU.The biggest offender for me was Tatooine, they destroyed Luke's line about it being the furthest from the center of the universe by returning to it in 4 of the following 5 films. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonesy 55 Posted September 22, 2014 Share Posted September 22, 2014 I don't remember seeing Hoth, Bespin or Endor in the prequels. Dagobah appears in a deleted scene, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted September 22, 2014 Share Posted September 22, 2014 The only new planets they invented for the PT where Naboo, Kamino, Geonosis, Utapau, Mustafar.Tatooine, Coruscant, Alderaan, Kashyyk, Dagobah, where all seen or mentioned in the OT or classic EU.You said OT, not the expanded universe stuff.And as far as a can remember only Tatooine is the only OT planet seen in the prequels Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faleel 5,359 Posted September 22, 2014 Share Posted September 22, 2014 Its not just planets though, its universe shrinkage in general. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon Hill 4,234 Posted September 22, 2014 Share Posted September 22, 2014 Maybe the universe was in the pool. Wojo 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,373 Posted September 22, 2014 Share Posted September 22, 2014 Its not just planets though, its universe shrinkage in general.Yea, that's what I'm talking about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nightscape94 965 Posted September 22, 2014 Share Posted September 22, 2014 Which makes me wish that the stand-alone films would focus on people we've never heard of, met, or have any connection to other characters heretofore known. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,373 Posted September 22, 2014 Share Posted September 22, 2014 Fat chance of that happening, at least for now. Maybe in the 2020s we will get stuff like that, if the 2015-2018 films are all successful Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted September 22, 2014 Share Posted September 22, 2014 The only new planets they invented for the PT where Naboo, Kamino, Geonosis, Utapau, Mustafar.Tatooine, Coruscant, Alderaan, Kashyyk, Dagobah, where all seen or mentioned in the OT or classic EU.The biggest offender for me was Tatooine, they destroyed Luke's line about it being the furthest from the center of the universe by returning to it in 4 of the following 5 films.Coruscant isn't in the original trilogy! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,373 Posted September 22, 2014 Share Posted September 22, 2014 I never said it was. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nightscape94 965 Posted September 22, 2014 Share Posted September 22, 2014 The only new planets they invented for the PT where Naboo, Kamino, Geonosis, Utapau, Mustafar.Tatooine, Coruscant, Alderaan, Kashyyk, Dagobah, where all seen or mentioned in the OT or classic EU.The biggest offender for me was Tatooine, they destroyed Luke's line about it being the furthest from the center of the universe by returning to it in 4 of the following 5 films.Coruscant isn't in the original trilogy!George Lucas disagrees with you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted September 22, 2014 Share Posted September 22, 2014 George is wrong! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bilbo 3,709 Posted September 22, 2014 Share Posted September 22, 2014 The only new planets they invented for the PT where Naboo, Kamino, Geonosis, Utapau, Mustafar.Tatooine, Coruscant, Alderaan, Kashyyk, Dagobah, where all seen or mentioned in the OT or classic EU.The biggest offender for me was Tatooine, they destroyed Luke's line about it being the furthest from the center of the universe by returning to it in 4 of the following 5 films.Coruscant is in Jedi for a about 5 seconds... you only see Alderaan from in IV and it makes sense to see it in III since Leia is dropped off there.... Kashyyyk (3 "y"s) is never even mentioned on screen. You also forgot Mygeeto, Saleucami, Cato Neimoidia, Polis Masa, and Felucia, from the Prequels. Arpy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,373 Posted September 22, 2014 Share Posted September 22, 2014 No idea what the fuck any of those last things are Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bilbo 3,709 Posted September 22, 2014 Share Posted September 22, 2014 They're all planets in Revenge of the Sith. Except Polis Masa which is the asteroid base where Padmé gives birth to the twins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted September 22, 2014 Share Posted September 22, 2014 Coruscant was never originally in Jedi! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted September 22, 2014 Share Posted September 22, 2014 They're all planets in Revenge of the Sith. Except Polis Masa which is the asteroid base where Padmé gives birth to the twins. Are they cannon? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,373 Posted September 22, 2014 Share Posted September 22, 2014 They're all planets in Revenge of the Sith. Except Polis Masa which is the asteroid base where Padmé gives birth to the twins. Are they cannon?I think you mean canon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bilbo 3,709 Posted September 22, 2014 Share Posted September 22, 2014 They're all planets in Revenge of the Sith. Except Polis Masa which is the asteroid base where Padmé gives birth to the twins. Are they cannon?No. But they are canon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted September 22, 2014 Share Posted September 22, 2014 What kind of canon? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bilbo 3,709 Posted September 22, 2014 Share Posted September 22, 2014 What kind of canon?Story-group canon. The only one that counts any more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted September 22, 2014 Share Posted September 22, 2014 So the characters in Episode VII could possibly say something like: "We need to go back where the Skywalker twins were born. We need to go back to Polis Masa, where it all started", right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bilbo 3,709 Posted September 22, 2014 Share Posted September 22, 2014 Theoretically yes as it is a place that exists in the Star Wars universe. I'm 100% that it'll never be seen again though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted September 22, 2014 Share Posted September 22, 2014 Does retro-canon exist? For example, Mara Jade is now non-canon, right? But let's say they mention her in Episode VII. She'd be back to canon, right? That would be retro-canon, no? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bilbo 3,709 Posted September 22, 2014 Share Posted September 22, 2014 The character would but not her full backstory. For example, mentioning her doesn't recanonize all the books which feature her. It would only make her and anything they directly reference canon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted September 22, 2014 Share Posted September 22, 2014 Midichlorians are canon, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted September 22, 2014 Share Posted September 22, 2014 Everything in the movies is canon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Skywalker 1,795 Posted September 22, 2014 Share Posted September 22, 2014 The only new planets they invented for the PT where Naboo, Kamino, Geonosis, Utapau, Mustafar.Saleucami, Cato Neimoidia, Mygeeto, Felucia, Moons of Bogden (mentioned), Moons of Iego (mentioned), Boz pity (mentioned), Malastare (mentioned)...The only recurring planets from the OT were Tatooine and Alderaan. Coruscant counts if you want to count the SEs... but complaining about the appeareance of the capital of the republic in a trilogy centered in the Republic's political turmoil...is a little odd Jonesy and Bilbo 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted September 22, 2014 Share Posted September 22, 2014 Jason seems to have developed an idée fixe. Bilbo 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bilbo 3,709 Posted September 22, 2014 Share Posted September 22, 2014 The only new planets they invented for the PT where Naboo, Kamino, Geonosis, Utapau, Mustafar.Saleucami, Cato Neimoidia, Mygeeto, Felucia, Moons of Bogden (mentioned), Moons of Iego (mentioned), Boz pity (mentioned), Malastare (mentioned)...The only recurring planets from the OT were Tatooine and Alderaan. Coruscant counts if you want to count the SEs... but complaining about the appeareance of the capital of the republic in a trilogy centered in the Republic's political turmoil...is a little odd Oh yeah, forgot to state those ones! (Iego and Malastare where later seen in the Clone Wars too along with loads of new planets). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted September 22, 2014 Share Posted September 22, 2014 Everything in the movies is canon.So all the inconsistencies between the prequels and the OT are canon? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Skywalker 1,795 Posted September 22, 2014 Share Posted September 22, 2014 Utapau was not invented in the PT, it appears in SW 1st draft Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted September 22, 2014 Share Posted September 22, 2014 YesI wonder what level on canonicity the Ewok TV films have, if any? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Skywalker 1,795 Posted September 22, 2014 Share Posted September 22, 2014 Everything in the movies is canon.So all the inconsistencies between the prequels and the OT are canon?they are cannon fodder Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bilbo 3,709 Posted September 22, 2014 Share Posted September 22, 2014 Everything in the movies is canon.So all the inconsistencies between the prequels and the OT are canon?From a certain point of viewYesI wonder what level on canonicity the Ewok TV films have, if any?None. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Skywalker 1,795 Posted September 22, 2014 Share Posted September 22, 2014 Putting a square antenna in the Falcon has already blown out all the Post ROTJ EU.With a single little detail! ANother one is Luke having beard. (and probably not dressed in black with a black glove in his right hand... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nightscape94 965 Posted September 22, 2014 Share Posted September 22, 2014 Everything in the movies is canon.So all the inconsistencies between the prequels and the OT are canon?From a certain point of viewAnd from a certain point of view the jedi are evil. Smeltington 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bilbo 3,709 Posted September 22, 2014 Share Posted September 22, 2014 WELL THEN YOU ARE LOST! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,631 Posted September 22, 2014 Share Posted September 22, 2014 The square antennae is so the Hasbro toys willl look a bit different Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bilbo 3,709 Posted September 22, 2014 Share Posted September 22, 2014 Now they can do a Falcon, battle damaged Falcon, and an Episode VII Falcon. Money in the bag. I will buy them all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ymenard 54 Posted September 22, 2014 Share Posted September 22, 2014 Aren't some planets announced too during the pod race when they introduce the racers? And is that extended lap part of the canon? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bilbo 3,709 Posted September 23, 2014 Share Posted September 23, 2014 Aren't some planets announced too during the pod race when they introduce the racers? And is that extended lap part of the canon? In that case the, Tund system (Pixelito is in Malastare I think), we know RATTS TYERELL is from Aleen because of the Clone Wars. There's probably a few others I've forgotten. I'm not sure how or where deleted scenes fit in actually. I would assume they're fine as they came from George. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted September 23, 2014 Share Posted September 23, 2014 And all of this bullshit is really important in a broad story about a small band of misfits and a princess rebelling against an empire! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faleel 5,359 Posted September 23, 2014 Share Posted September 23, 2014 I'm sure you could come up with some tenuous psuedo-philosophical connexion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted September 23, 2014 Share Posted September 23, 2014 So Gasgano and Ben Quadinaros are canon? Thank god. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faleel 5,359 Posted September 23, 2014 Share Posted September 23, 2014 What about "Yaaarrghh"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ymenard 54 Posted September 23, 2014 Share Posted September 23, 2014 Aren't some planets announced too during the pod race when they introduce the racers? And is that extended lap part of the canon? In that case the, Tund system (Pixelito is in Malastare I think), we know RATTS TYERELL is from Aleen because of the Clone Wars. There's probably a few others I've forgotten. I'm not sure how or where deleted scenes fit in actually. I would assume they're fine as they came from George. I think the second lap of the pod race and the introduction of the other pod racer is a permanent part of the movie, it was added to the home release back in the days? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bilbo 3,709 Posted September 23, 2014 Share Posted September 23, 2014 Oh yeah, that stuff is on the Blu-ray (the DVD as well I think). There's still more podrace material among the deleted scenes though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Skywalker 1,795 Posted September 23, 2014 Share Posted September 23, 2014 So Gasgano and Ben Quadinaros are canon? Thank god.they appeared in the threatical edition...The deleted scenes can be considered canon as long as they dont contradict the final films.Shaak ti's death is difficult as the two deleted scenes contradict each other.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Create an account or sign in to comment
You need to be a member in order to leave a comment
Create an account
Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!
Register a new accountSign in
Already have an account? Sign in here.
Sign In Now