Jonesy 55 Posted September 17, 2014 Share Posted September 17, 2014 probably he will voice a CGI or puppet character?Nah. He will play a Bothan spy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted September 17, 2014 Share Posted September 17, 2014 Vader has failed the Emperor's test. He hand-delivered his replacement, who has shown himself to be superior to Vader, and now Vader can be replaced.Except Luke goes off-script. He throws away his saber and doesn't want to participate. He's still a Jedi.Cute and cosy cathartic deliverance for all the baying Star Wars geeks in the audience, but that moment alone was always the most curiously "sloppy" of all if we're talking writing and character motivation.When did Luke go off script? He never did. The Emperor (and Vader) were fools.Never once did Luke give us any reason to doubt his resolute desire to be a good practising Jedi, never once did Luke demonstrate a capability for sadistic or evil doings. Never once did he even reveal a penchant for his own selfish desires. How were we the audience ever supposed to buy his possible sudden transformation into malevolent prayer if we'd never once been shown that he just might have it in him? He was a goody two shoes emo from beginning to end! There was never any doubt where is allegiance lay, ever! Sloppy, peril-less writing. The Emperor had it coming to him, the daft wanker. Luke was a Jedi, like his father before him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wojo 2,453 Posted September 17, 2014 Share Posted September 17, 2014 "Their" script. The Emperor's script, mainly. Vader's, not so much. The Emperor was giving Luke the keys to the kingdom and a chance to get revenge on his life by killing his father. That's the script.The audience is meant to suspect that Luke may actually follow his father's path into darkness at select moments in ROTJ. He appears dressed all in black, which is an evil color. He sacrifices his loyal droids to Jabba, and puts his friends in peril. Imagine if Leia had emerged pregnant with Jabba's brood! He uses the Force choke on Gamorrean guards, a Force move that only Vader had been seen to do, never Ben nor Yoda. He helps slaughter an entire sail barge of shady characters just to save his friend (and the people he dragged into it) and get the slimy slug off his back. And we finally see Luke going to town on Vader at the very end when he hacks off his hand, right before Luke derails the Emperor's plan.But those are the only moments, and they're not that strong. Luke does save Han, with no loss of Rebel life. He keeps his promise to Yoda and is quite civil to him and Ben for lying. He participates in the Rebel strike on Endor, and he finds a peaceful solution to the Ewok feast instead of slaughtering the cannibalistic teddy bears. And of course he rejects the Dark Side completely, choosing to die a martyr (albeit a begging one) rather than follow the Emperor's script.Ewok. Is that even still a canon word now? It's never spoken in any of the six movies, and I never watched The Clone Wars series to see if they visit Endor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,370 Posted September 17, 2014 Share Posted September 17, 2014 Is the work Ewok mentioned in any of that b-roll that has been showing up online from that laserdisc thingy? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted September 17, 2014 Share Posted September 17, 2014 They didn't do enough to instil any sense of doubt in the audiences mind as to what Luke's motivations were. He was never anything but the hero, being lead in by his father to meet the evil Emperor, for some intense rounds of diplomatic negotiations. The feigned loose canon styling of his frown and attire weren't convincing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wojo 2,453 Posted September 17, 2014 Share Posted September 17, 2014 They didn't do enough to instil any sense of doubt in the audiences mind as to what Luke's motivations were. He was never anything but the hero, being lead in by his father to meet the evil Emperor, for some intense rounds of diplomatic negotiations. The feigned loose cannon styling of his frown and attire weren't convincing.No, perhaps not. Luke was the hero in this one because he was the hero of the previous two movies, even if he needed a little help there under Cloud City. His motivations remained clear: defeat the Emperor and try to win back his father's love. He said it himself to Ben, he couldn't kill his own father, and he acted totally cool around him, unafraid, as if he knew he wouldn't be harmed this time.It's the motivations of the Emperor and Vader that are less clear. Intense negotiations? Not likely. The Emperor wants the complete destruction of the Rebel Alliance and the reintegration of all rebelling systems. There's nothing to negotiate. The Emperor wants Luke to vanquish Vader, while it's in Vader's best interest to not bring Luke before the Emperor. Kill him on Endor or somewhere convenient. Nope, the climax of ROTJ works like a James Bond movie: the villain brings the hero before him so he has the time and location to talk and act his way into defeating the villain. Because that's what the "script" (Kasdan and Lucas', not the Emperor's) tells them to do.Is the work Ewok mentioned in any of that b-roll that has been showing up online from that laserdisc thingy? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gkgyver 1,645 Posted September 17, 2014 Share Posted September 17, 2014 The German Sky channel is advertising an upcoming "Star Wars channel". Looks like it's going to be a channel dedicated to Star Wars.Is there enough material to warrant this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wojo 2,453 Posted September 17, 2014 Share Posted September 17, 2014 The NFL Channel stays afloat the other five months out of the year when there aren't any NFL games being played (though, snigger, they already do have your money). And the Stanley Hotel in Colorado devotes an entire channel to playing Kubrick's The Shining on loop.I think they'll be fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharkissimo 1,973 Posted September 17, 2014 Share Posted September 17, 2014 I think that moment of conflict when Vader has to choose between Luke and the Emperor is the greatest moment in the trilogyEven in my teenage years I thought that scene was a bit weird.All the way through the duel Vader is the one hacking into his son, but suddenly when the Emperor tries to kill him Vader has a change of heart?It's not sudden. It's foreshadowed in the final shot from the scene where Vader confronts Luke on Endor, along with the earlier scene where the Emperor questions Vader's feelings about his son. It's not telegraphed, but Vader's weariness is gradually shown the film. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,370 Posted September 17, 2014 Share Posted September 17, 2014 Is the work Ewok mentioned in any of that b-roll that has been showing up online from that laserdisc thingy? https://www.facebook.com/rotjeditdroid Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,631 Posted September 17, 2014 Share Posted September 17, 2014 Tried again that Dark Souls 2 boss and I can't beat him. So my next obscure RPG is:The Witch and the Hundred Knights (PS3) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gkgyver 1,645 Posted September 17, 2014 Share Posted September 17, 2014 Wrong thread? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,631 Posted September 17, 2014 Share Posted September 17, 2014 oops Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,370 Posted September 17, 2014 Share Posted September 17, 2014 LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muad'Dib 1,802 Posted September 17, 2014 Share Posted September 17, 2014 Half-Life 3 confirmed! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,631 Posted September 17, 2014 Share Posted September 17, 2014 Really? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted September 17, 2014 Share Posted September 17, 2014 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bilbo 3,709 Posted September 17, 2014 Share Posted September 17, 2014 Ewok is still canon. It appears in the credits at the end of the film if iirc and the change in canon wasn't really to change small things like that anyway. They're the types of things they'd keep. It was mainly to remove large obstacles such as the post ROTJ EU and stuff around the films that would contradict a profit rich story environment. The period between IV and V, for example, will be mined for a while it seems. The German Sky channel is advertising an upcoming "Star Wars channel". Looks like it's going to be a channel dedicated to Star Wars.Is there enough material to warrant this? 6 live action films, 1 animated film, 121 episodes of The Clone Wars and now Rebels is starting up (although that'll probably be exclusive to Disney channels) plus 35+ years of documentaries. Yeah, they probably could do it if they wanted. You could even do a weekly Star Wars news show towards the latter half of next year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted September 17, 2014 Share Posted September 17, 2014 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bilbo 3,709 Posted September 17, 2014 Share Posted September 17, 2014 or you could just buy the book: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted September 17, 2014 Share Posted September 17, 2014 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bilbo 3,709 Posted September 17, 2014 Share Posted September 17, 2014 Hmm. Why don't I already have a copy of this book? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted September 17, 2014 Share Posted September 17, 2014 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,370 Posted September 17, 2014 Share Posted September 17, 2014 Marcy got it for me for Christmas one year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KK 3,307 Posted September 17, 2014 Share Posted September 17, 2014 She got you 4 copies? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted September 17, 2014 Share Posted September 17, 2014 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wojo 2,453 Posted September 17, 2014 Share Posted September 17, 2014 All right, a recipe for mashed potatoes! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muad'Dib 1,802 Posted September 17, 2014 Share Posted September 17, 2014 Really? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt C 454 Posted September 18, 2014 Share Posted September 18, 2014 Another 'Star Wars' v. 'Batman v Superman' joke between Abrams and Zack Snyder... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,370 Posted September 18, 2014 Share Posted September 18, 2014 Very impressive set! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bespin 8,484 Posted September 18, 2014 Share Posted September 18, 2014 Anthony Daniels talks refusing CG for Episode VII and why C-3PO will never die http://www.blastr.com/2014-9-17/anthony-daniels-talks-refusing-cg-episode-vii-and-why-c-3po-will-never-dieExellent, no CG C3-PO in Episode VII! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nightscape94 965 Posted September 19, 2014 Share Posted September 19, 2014 It would be better if there was no Threepio in the movie at all, honestly. A. A. Ron 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,370 Posted September 19, 2014 Share Posted September 19, 2014 Makes more sense for him to be in these movies than the prequels Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted September 19, 2014 Share Posted September 19, 2014 Ewok is still canon. It appears in the credits at the end of the film if iirc and the change in canon wasn't really to change small things like that anyway. They're the types of things they'd keep. It was mainly to remove large obstacles such as the post ROTJ EU and stuff around the films that would contradict a profit rich story environment. The period between IV and V, for example, will be mined for a while it seems. The German Sky channel is advertising an upcoming "Star Wars channel". Looks like it's going to be a channel dedicated to Star Wars.Is there enough material to warrant this? 6 live action films, 1 animated film, 121 episodes of The Clone Wars and now Rebels is starting up (although that'll probably be exclusive to Disney channels) plus 35+ years of documentaries. Yeah, they probably could do it if they wanted. You could even do a weekly Star Wars news show towards the latter half of next year. Ewoks and Droids animated series', Ewok movies... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted September 19, 2014 Share Posted September 19, 2014 And let's not forget the Christmas special. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wojo 2,453 Posted September 19, 2014 Share Posted September 19, 2014 The Christmas Special, translated into German? That's just evil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bilbo 3,709 Posted September 19, 2014 Share Posted September 19, 2014 Ewok is still canon. It appears in the credits at the end of the film if iirc and the change in canon wasn't really to change small things like that anyway. They're the types of things they'd keep. It was mainly to remove large obstacles such as the post ROTJ EU and stuff around the films that would contradict a profit rich story environment. The period between IV and V, for example, will be mined for a while it seems. The German Sky channel is advertising an upcoming "Star Wars channel". Looks like it's going to be a channel dedicated to Star Wars.Is there enough material to warrant this? 6 live action films, 1 animated film, 121 episodes of The Clone Wars and now Rebels is starting up (although that'll probably be exclusive to Disney channels) plus 35+ years of documentaries. Yeah, they probably could do it if they wanted. You could even do a weekly Star Wars news show towards the latter half of next year. Ewoks and Droids animated series', Ewok movies...It's very hard to even fine them on DVD so I don't know. At least one of the Ewok movies was given a German theatrical release though. They're all awful though. I actually own a copy of the Holiday Special. I still can't make out what exactly it's supposed to be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nightscape94 965 Posted September 19, 2014 Share Posted September 19, 2014 Makes more sense for him to be in these movies than the prequelsTrue, I just hope he and R2 are used sparingly. They served as a nice storytelling device in SW, but in the other films they were just there. R2 is at least useful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stempel 136 Posted September 19, 2014 Share Posted September 19, 2014 The Christmas Special, translated into German? That's just evil.It was never translated in German. Nobody knows this Film here, except the Fans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wojo 2,453 Posted September 19, 2014 Share Posted September 19, 2014 K Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Skywalker 1,795 Posted September 19, 2014 Share Posted September 19, 2014 Will R2 be cgi?Will he return to his former self? no flying antics? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hlao-roo 389 Posted September 19, 2014 Share Posted September 19, 2014 Will he return to his former self? no flying antics?Youthful indiscretions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faleel 5,358 Posted September 21, 2014 Share Posted September 21, 2014 One detail on the Falcon has apparently changed since ROTJ. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not Mr. Big 4,639 Posted September 21, 2014 Share Posted September 21, 2014 Makes sense, as the old antenna was knocked off in ROTJ. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted September 21, 2014 Share Posted September 21, 2014 And they never replaced it in 30 years? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faleel 5,358 Posted September 22, 2014 Share Posted September 22, 2014 And they never replaced it in 30 years?They replaced with a square one obviously Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted September 22, 2014 Share Posted September 22, 2014 I forgot my glasses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,370 Posted September 22, 2014 Share Posted September 22, 2014 Hmmm, I don't really know why so many Bond actors are visiting the Episode 7 set, but now Roger Moore has visited, and claims they were filming on an ice planet (Hoth again?)Roger Moore Visits Star Wars Episode 7 Ice Planet Set Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bilbo 3,709 Posted September 22, 2014 Share Posted September 22, 2014 There's been talks of an ice planet for a long time now (filming in Iceland etc.) but my guess is that it isn't Hoth. There's no logical reason to go back there anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,370 Posted September 22, 2014 Share Posted September 22, 2014 Yea I hope it isn't HothOne of the more annoying aspects of the prequels was revisiting so many of the planets from the OT, making some supposedly "middle of nowhere" places became seemingly central to everything important that happens in the galaxy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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