crocodile 8,017 Posted September 28, 2017 Share Posted September 28, 2017 The Zimmer one. He does mention it in the interview. Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted September 28, 2017 Share Posted September 28, 2017 I think the ZImmer/Junkie/whoever Wonder Woman is campy fun and I'm looking forward to Elfman having fun with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not Mr. Big 4,639 Posted September 28, 2017 Share Posted September 28, 2017 Ugh, I hate that theme. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fancyarcher 350 Posted September 28, 2017 Share Posted September 28, 2017 It's not even a theme, it's a rhythm (also Tina Guo invented the rhythm), and I'd prefer it if Elfman kept its use to a minimum in Justice League. There's not much you can do to it, beyond it appearing in an action scene, unless he can somehow turn it into a full-fledge theme, which knowing him is possible. Once 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted September 28, 2017 Share Posted September 28, 2017 Arpy and Once 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted September 28, 2017 Share Posted September 28, 2017 Well I'm sure the Williams thing is more of an easter egg than anything else. Maybe I'm wrong of course, but that's the feeling I got. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted September 28, 2017 Share Posted September 28, 2017 Superman returns? Spoilers! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted September 28, 2017 Share Posted September 28, 2017 He's on the poster! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
antovolk 95 Posted September 28, 2017 Author Share Posted September 28, 2017 7 minutes ago, Disco Stu said: He's on the poster! it's fan made Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted September 28, 2017 Share Posted September 28, 2017 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted September 28, 2017 Share Posted September 28, 2017 Well this one I know is official: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Zimmer 211 Posted September 28, 2017 Share Posted September 28, 2017 Yeah that one is fake, Superman is from that BvS poster in which he has this weird light thing going on his forehead. At least Zimmers WW theme is safe....for now.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted September 28, 2017 Share Posted September 28, 2017 The second image I posted is an official Warner Bros promo image. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted September 28, 2017 Share Posted September 28, 2017 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted September 28, 2017 Share Posted September 28, 2017 Just because they stole the picture of Superman doesn't mean it wasn't an official promo image! Marketing departments can do some weird shit! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted September 28, 2017 Share Posted September 28, 2017 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bilbo 3,709 Posted September 28, 2017 Share Posted September 28, 2017 Who did write the Wonder Woman theme* that was in the WW film? *By theme I mean the Robert Plant vocal from Immigrant Song player by an angle grinder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted September 28, 2017 Share Posted September 28, 2017 I think officially it's credited to both? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bilbo 3,709 Posted September 28, 2017 Share Posted September 28, 2017 Plant and Page? mstrox 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post crumbs 14,318 Posted September 28, 2017 Popular Post Share Posted September 28, 2017 Missed opportunity to a post a thread on the JW board titled, "John Williams returning to Superman!" Seriously though, this is great news. A film that combined the old Batman theme and the old Superman theme? Hell yes! Not Mr. Big, Arpy, James and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted September 28, 2017 Share Posted September 28, 2017 It's sometimes hard to recognise what the fuck is official marketing artwork and fanart manipulations these days. Sometimes even Amazon, IMDb or reputable news organisations get tricked by fanart, they end up using it somehow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted September 28, 2017 Share Posted September 28, 2017 Once and TheUlyssesian 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted September 29, 2017 Share Posted September 29, 2017 Plus, fan films are now blockbuster films. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted September 29, 2017 Share Posted September 29, 2017 Like TFA and R1? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheUlyssesian 2,478 Posted September 29, 2017 Share Posted September 29, 2017 8 hours ago, Fancyarcher said: I like how he mentioned that created motif for Flash, Aquaman, and Cyborg. I'm not sure those characters really deserve just a motif (I'm wondering if the composer for Aquaman will discard it), but I'm interested to see how that plays out / development throughout the score. Well Zimmer did not even afford WW the courtsey of a motif, giving her a guitar riff. So a motif for some characters is progress. 5 hours ago, Not Mr. Big said: don't think that Williams' Superman theme would fit the dark new DC universe It's an evergreen theme and could certainly fit! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt C 454 Posted September 29, 2017 Share Posted September 29, 2017 8 hours ago, Jay said: Huh. After reading that interview snippet my interest in this score went up a bit I am wholeheartedly anticipating this score. Elfman really can't go wrong when he's painting on a superhero canvas, and his comments just make me confident. I looked at a few fanboy forums regarding the news about Elfman bringing back his themes and hinting at Williams' Superman theme. As predicted, some of the Snyder purists are throwing hissy fits -- just like when it was announced Elfman was scoring the film and not Junkie XL. Bilbo and crumbs 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon Hill 4,234 Posted September 29, 2017 Share Posted September 29, 2017 25 minutes ago, TheUlyssesian said: Well Zimmer did not even afford WW the courtsey of a motif, giving her a guitar riff. ...that is a motive. 25 minutes ago, TheUlyssesian said: This is bloody awful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted September 29, 2017 Share Posted September 29, 2017 Yeah whoever made that video can't edit for shit. Slow the heck down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fancyarcher 350 Posted September 29, 2017 Share Posted September 29, 2017 3 hours ago, TheUlyssesian said: Well Zimmer did not even afford WW the courtsey of a motif, giving her a guitar riff. So a motif for some characters is progress. Oh definitely, a motif is an improvement over a rhythm that you can't really do much with, really. I trust Elfman to develop those motifs well over the course of the score. 3 hours ago, Matt C said: I am wholeheartedly anticipating this score. Elfman really can't go wrong when he's painting on a superhero canvas, and his comments just make me confident. I looked at a few fanboy forums regarding the news about Elfman bringing back his themes and hinting at Williams' Superman theme. As predicted, some of the Snyder purists are throwing hissy fits -- just like when it was announced Elfman was scoring the film and not Junkie XL. I've seen a few people on a forum I post on, being disappointed because they find Zimmer's Superman theme to be superior to Williams. Like no, enough guys. cameron.osborn 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted September 29, 2017 Share Posted September 29, 2017 1 hour ago, Fancyarcher said: I've seen a few people on a forum I post on, being disappointed because they find Zimmer's Superman theme to be superior to Williams. Like no, enough guys. Zimmer's score is not necessarily "better" than Williams' as music per se, but it is more appropriate to Snyder's interpretation and representation of Superman. toothless and Arpy 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bilbo 3,709 Posted September 29, 2017 Share Posted September 29, 2017 The word you’re looking for there is shite Matt C 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post BloodBoal 7,538 Posted September 29, 2017 Popular Post Share Posted September 29, 2017 mstrox, Pieter Boelen and Arpy 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bilbo 3,709 Posted September 29, 2017 Share Posted September 29, 2017 Is what I meant! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arpy 4,145 Posted September 29, 2017 Share Posted September 29, 2017 It has a few good pounding action cues, but it's no match for the sheer melodic might of Williams' classic. I remember listening to MoS when the complete score was leaked and thinking "Hmm, that Escape from the Ship cue is pretty good, I can see why people wanted it". I revisited that cue the other day after clearing out a few folders and wondering what made me think that in the first place? The film is indefensibly bad, if the score accomplishes one thing is that it matches the film in poor tone, poor writing and overall poor quality. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted September 29, 2017 Share Posted September 29, 2017 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted September 29, 2017 Share Posted September 29, 2017 I was pretending to hate Zimmer's score for a while too just to fit in around here and not rock the boat, but I just couldn't do it anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted September 29, 2017 Share Posted September 29, 2017 Anyone who’d judge you based on a film score you like isn’t someone who’s opinion you should respect anyway. Bilbo 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted September 29, 2017 Share Posted September 29, 2017 That's why I broke up with her. TheUlyssesian and James 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharkissimo 1,973 Posted September 29, 2017 Share Posted September 29, 2017 4 hours ago, Fancyarcher said: I've seen a few people on a forum I post on, being disappointed because they find Zimmer's Superman theme to be superior to Williams. Like no, enough guys. Invite them here! We need reinforcements. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arpy 4,145 Posted September 29, 2017 Share Posted September 29, 2017 That forum is not a place to traverse, unlike this wondrous place we call JWFan. I've just noticed this forum shares a similarity to another, not-to-be-named forum which shares music files illegally, in that both JWFan and that place are 95% discussions on topics other than their namesake! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted September 29, 2017 Share Posted September 29, 2017 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted September 29, 2017 Share Posted September 29, 2017 6 minutes ago, BloodBoal said: Yes! Let's answer smug with smug! It is the only way! That wasn't smug! It was just a roundabout way of saying "the haters gonna hate" really. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mstrox 6,651 Posted September 29, 2017 Share Posted September 29, 2017 I really like components of Zimmer's Man of Steel - everything from the first half of the movie, mostly. And I really like Zimmer, generally speaking. But, man, "pounding action cues" as mentioned above are my personal kryptonite, Zimmer or no. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
antovolk 95 Posted September 29, 2017 Author Share Posted September 29, 2017 10 hours ago, Matt C said: I looked at a few fanboy forums regarding the news about Elfman bringing back his themes and hinting at Williams' Superman theme. As predicted, some of the Snyder purists are throwing hissy fits -- just like when it was announced Elfman was scoring the film and not Junkie XL. I liked MoS/BvS and am disappointed by this decision and the direction they're taking, so bloody what? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fancyarcher 350 Posted September 29, 2017 Share Posted September 29, 2017 6 hours ago, Baby Jane Hudson said: Zimmer's score is not necessarily "better" than Williams' as music per se, but it is more appropriate to Snyder's interpretation and representation of Superman. It is, but apparently Justice League is supposed to be more "lighthearted" as a result of the reshoots, so maybe it doesn't fit anymore. I like Zimmer's theme fine enough, but a lot of his underscore isn't to my liking much. Repeating pounding drums, and percussion loops aren't exactly my thing anyway. 3 hours ago, Blanche Hudson said: Invite them here! We need reinforcements. Sure I can invite them here, in fact one or two members are already on this board. Something tells me, most of them aren't interested in talking about film music, beyond the obvious choices though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted September 29, 2017 Share Posted September 29, 2017 Elfman and Whedon could be a very interesting composer/director partnership. Elfmans contribution to Age Of Ultron was very good, and they seem to enjoy working together. Bilbo 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt C 454 Posted September 29, 2017 Share Posted September 29, 2017 2 hours ago, antovolk said: I liked MoS/BvS and am disappointed by this decision and the direction they're taking, so bloody what? Elfman is not discarding everything they did. In that same interview, he said he referenced the Wonder Woman theme from BvS -- and I would not be surprised if he referenced Zimmer's own Superman theme in addition to the Williams theme. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted September 29, 2017 Share Posted September 29, 2017 Williams v Zimmer: Battle Of Themes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted September 29, 2017 Share Posted September 29, 2017 Disco Stu and Bilbo 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted September 29, 2017 Share Posted September 29, 2017 Just now, BloodBoal said: Are you saying that because they both look a bit like you? Mind. Blown. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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