Chen G. 3,949 Posted August 26, 2021 Share Posted August 26, 2021 5 minutes ago, Nick1Ø66 said: Why? Any number of reasons: ascertaining the identification, disguising my sources, and not spoiling Fellowship of the Fans' scoop too soon. Quote I was thinking Bo Hansson You've seen Hanson's TV adaptation of The Fellowship of the Ring? Its easily the shoddiest of the eastern European adaptations. Its a hoot! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick1Ø66 4,714 Posted August 26, 2021 Share Posted August 26, 2021 1 hour ago, Chen G. said: Any number of reasons: ascertaining the identification, disguising my sources, and not spoiling Fellowship of the Fans' scoop too soon. You have an obligation to break the news here first and put this place on the map! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chen G. 3,949 Posted August 26, 2021 Share Posted August 26, 2021 I will, but just fractionately before he breaks it out, which will I believe be rather imminent. I will say for now that it seems Shore is involved in some capacity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Glóin the Dark 1,221 Posted August 26, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted August 26, 2021 Holko, Evanus, Nick1Ø66 and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bofur01 245 Posted August 27, 2021 Share Posted August 27, 2021 I see you Mattris Chen G. and Holko 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick1Ø66 4,714 Posted September 2, 2021 Share Posted September 2, 2021 New images from Amazon's Lord of the Rings! OK, I lied. Most of these are from the trailer for Amazon's Wheel of Time series. They look...vaguely Tolkienesque? And leave an impression not entirely dissimilar to the promo artwork Amazon already put out for their Lord of the Rings. It will be interesting to see if their Lord of the Rings has sort of that digital, generic fantasy look & feel that you see a lot of on Netflix/Apple/Amazon shows, or the more grounded, historical look you see in the LOTR films & Game of Thrones. So only one of these pics is from Lord of the Rings. But could you blame anyone for thinking they all came from the same show? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chen G. 3,949 Posted September 2, 2021 Share Posted September 2, 2021 I thought the trailer looks allright. I think The Lord of the Rings will be different, though: Amazon will want to delineate their two shows, naturally. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KK 3,307 Posted September 2, 2021 Share Posted September 2, 2021 The Peter Jackson-esque vista shots aside, it looks like an off-brand Middle-Earth knockoff. Let's hope the actual LOTR show aims higher. Nick1Ø66 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick1Ø66 4,714 Posted September 2, 2021 Share Posted September 2, 2021 39 minutes ago, Chen G. said: Amazon will want to delineate their two shows, naturally. One would think. 35 minutes ago, KK said: Let's hope the actual LOTR show aims higher. One would hope! 39 minutes ago, Chen G. said: I thought the trailer looks allright. Actually, so do I. It just looks very familiar, and I'm curious as to how much LOTR will look like this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chen G. 3,949 Posted September 2, 2021 Share Posted September 2, 2021 One way in which the two are clearly different is that with Wheel of Time they went with a fairly familiar face in Rosamund Pike. The Lord of the Rings went entirely with character actors. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted September 2, 2021 Share Posted September 2, 2021 I'm more interested in the Wheel of Time series than the Tolkien one, personally. Nick1Ø66 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick1Ø66 4,714 Posted September 2, 2021 Share Posted September 2, 2021 I think I almost agree with you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Popular Post mstrox 6,651 Posted September 23, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted September 23, 2021 Stairs confirmed Jurassic Shark, crumbs, A. A. Ron and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barnald 365 Posted October 9, 2021 Share Posted October 9, 2021 Going on Lenny Henry's comments today, this show is going to be even worse than I imagined, which is some achievement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chen G. 3,949 Posted October 10, 2021 Share Posted October 10, 2021 I think he's yanking our chain... If he's not...yikes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holko 9,526 Posted October 10, 2021 Share Posted October 10, 2021 2 minutes ago, Chen G. said: If he's not...yikes. Oh man, if even you say that... what comments, where? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chen G. 3,949 Posted October 10, 2021 Share Posted October 10, 2021 https://bleedingcool.com/tv/sir-lenny-henry-on-being-a-black-hobbit-in-the-lord-of-the-rings/ I hasten to add we have a lot of information about this show, but this doesn't seem to jive with any of it. I think he's pranking us, referencing TORn's (idiotic) rumour-mongering. Holko 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barnald 365 Posted October 10, 2021 Share Posted October 10, 2021 5 hours ago, Chen G. said: I think he's yanking our chain... If he's not...yikes. He's not that good a comedian (and I hesitate to even call him that). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chen G. 3,949 Posted October 10, 2021 Share Posted October 10, 2021 He also wrote his dissertation on black representation in Media so he has all the more reason to yank our chain on this matter. Thing is, I know for a fact that Amazon themselves are extremely concerned with the secrecy of the characters and who’s playing who. So that Henry should be allowed to spout this nonesense would seem unlikely, lending greater credence to the idea that this is a scam. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barnald 365 Posted October 10, 2021 Share Posted October 10, 2021 3 hours ago, Chen G. said: He also wrote his dissertation on black representation in Media so he has all the more reason to yank our chain on this matter. Thing is, I know for a fact that Amazon themselves are extremely concerned with the secrecy of the characters and who’s playing who. So that Henry should be allowed to spout this nonesense would seem unlikely, lending greater credence to the idea that this is a scam. If this is a scam I'd well and truly eat my hat (or indeed anyone's hat for that matter). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chen G. 3,949 Posted October 10, 2021 Share Posted October 10, 2021 I already swallowed a hat about this being set at the period in which the Rings are made... Turns out, hats don't taste that bad! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick1Ø66 4,714 Posted October 11, 2021 Share Posted October 11, 2021 How good this show is going to be remains to be seen, but I find the notion that he's "yanking our chain" to be...unlikely. He seems perfectly sincere to me in his comments, and if you're going to yank someone's chain, this is clearly not the way to do it. That said, he might be confused, or have a limited understanding of the show he's starring in (he wouldn't be the first actor, or even the first LOTR actor to be confused by the material), but if this is his idea of taking the piss, he's doing a very poor job of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chen G. 3,949 Posted October 11, 2021 Share Posted October 11, 2021 For what its worth, we know a fair amount about this show, and this doesn't jive with it at all. I expect to be able to find the truth in this within the coming weeks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chen G. 3,949 Posted October 23, 2021 Share Posted October 23, 2021 Character updates: Morfydd Clark is Galadriel Amelie Child-Villiers is Young Galadriel Robert Aramayo is probably Elrond Maxim Baldry is Isildur Lloyd Owen is Elendil Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bilbo 3,709 Posted January 5, 2022 Share Posted January 5, 2022 https://boundingintocomics.com/2022/01/04/the-lord-of-the-rings-rumor-claims-to-reveal-more-details-about-isildur-amazon-studios-will-introduce-original-character-as-his-sister/ yeah, I think Shore’s score is the only positive to come out of this. This sounds shite. Holko and Nick1Ø66 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chen G. 3,949 Posted January 5, 2022 Share Posted January 5, 2022 There's definitely some dodgy things about this: the whole stuff about having Hobbits in it is eyeroll inducing. But what's seriously the issue of Isildur having a sister? (which is something we've known for a while now, by the way) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monoverantus 363 Posted January 6, 2022 Share Posted January 6, 2022 3 hours ago, Chen G. said: But what's seriously the issue of Isildur having a sister? (which is something we've known for a while now, by the way) Considering how well documented Elendil's children were (their achievements, the creation of the kingdoms of Arnor and Gondor, the line of Kings and the line of Stewards, the two statues of Argonath) it would kind of throw off their duality to know there was always a neglected third child. All moot if she dies before all that though. Holko 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chen G. 3,949 Posted January 6, 2022 Share Posted January 6, 2022 8 hours ago, Monoverantus said: All moot if she dies before all that though. which I think is not unlikely. There are a couple of names on the leaked character list that I don't think will have a great longevity in the show: Pharazon's son Kemen comes to mind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick1Ø66 4,714 Posted January 6, 2022 Share Posted January 6, 2022 It's going to be a Wheel of Time/Witcher level show in terms of writing and production values. Typical, generic Amazon/Netflix streaming fantasy. Anyone who is expecting anything genuinely "Tolkien" in this show is going to be sorely disappointed. I still wonder what the reaction will be when people begin to realize that 90+% of the show (including most of the plot, a good number of the characters and virtually every line of dialogue) is purely fan fic created by committee in a TV writer's room and has very little to do with what Tolkien wrote. Jackson's films and Game of Thrones caught lightning in a bottle, and it's something of a miracle they happened at all, let alone how good they ended up. You just can't conjure that kind of magic up by following an algorithm. I can't see how the show can be anything other than a let-down at this point (assuming you're someone who raised their expectations in the first place). On 5/1/2022 at 10:28 PM, Chen G. said: There's definitely some dodgy things about this Han Solo said something similar. Bilbo 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chen G. 3,949 Posted January 7, 2022 Share Posted January 7, 2022 I'm not going to argue the point, not because I necessarily agree but because I don't want the enjoyment I derive from spying on the production to interfere with my ability to judge the resulting series fairly. As I've said to Fellowship of the Fans "we're not Amazon's PR team." At the same time, I like liking movies and show, and so I do try and hope for the best. There's stuff coming out about the show that has me rolling my eyes. But there's other stuff (including, but not limited to, the production design) that's rather encouraging, too. I'll wait to know more before I make judgement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bilbo 3,709 Posted January 19, 2022 Share Posted January 19, 2022 still getting Wheel of Time vibes. I kinda cringed hearing that voiceover. Maybe because it’s familiar words in an unfamiliar voice but Urgh. Nick1Ø66 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chen G. 3,949 Posted January 19, 2022 Share Posted January 19, 2022 2 minutes ago, His Royal Noelness said: because it’s familiar words in an unfamiliar voice Its Morfydd Clark's vocals - their Galadriel. Doesn't have the contralto heft of Cate Blanchett. Music seems to have strains of the History of the One Ring. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,364 Posted January 19, 2022 Share Posted January 19, 2022 Here's the trailer on youtube Chen G. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chen G. 3,949 Posted January 19, 2022 Share Posted January 19, 2022 There's also a making-of of the teaser: its done with macro-photography. Quote This is a title that we imagine could live on the spine of a book next to J.R.R. Tolkien's other classics," showrunners J.D. Payne and Patrick McKay said in a statement. "The Rings of Power unites all the major stories of Middle-earth's Second Age: the forging of the rings, the rise of the Dark Lord Sauron, the epic tale of Númenor, and the Last Alliance of Elves and Men. Until now, audiences have only seen on-screen the story of the One Ring – but before there was one, there were many… and we're excited to share the epic story of them all." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monoverantus 363 Posted January 19, 2022 Share Posted January 19, 2022 21 minutes ago, Chen G. said: Music seems to have strains of the History of the One Ring. I'm gonna go ahead and say the Ring theme is confirmed. Those first two notes can't be a coincidence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chen G. 3,949 Posted January 19, 2022 Share Posted January 19, 2022 Just now, Monoverantus said: Those first two notes can't be a coincidence. Those chords are under it all, aren't they? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monoverantus 363 Posted January 19, 2022 Share Posted January 19, 2022 The first seconds begin exactly like the Ring hint in The Doors of Durin (D-Eb over Abm-Gm). The Abm-Gm repeat all throughout. Chen G. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chen G. 3,949 Posted January 19, 2022 Share Posted January 19, 2022 2 minutes ago, Monoverantus said: The Abm-Gm repeat all throughout. And lor knows we got a ton of that gesture from Shore in The Hobbit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monoverantus 363 Posted January 19, 2022 Share Posted January 19, 2022 Have to give it to ya. This is pretty much exactly what I'd imagine Bear McCreary building off Shore's work would sound like. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chen G. 3,949 Posted January 19, 2022 Share Posted January 19, 2022 We actually knew this was coming about two hours in advance: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted January 19, 2022 Share Posted January 19, 2022 Always wise to pump the brakes when drawing any conclusions based on trailer music about anything beyond the trailer itself. I also found the voice off-putting at first, but yeah probably just because it's not Blanchett! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chen G. 3,949 Posted January 19, 2022 Share Posted January 19, 2022 6 minutes ago, Disco Stu said: Always wise to pump the brakes when drawing any conclusions based on trailer music about anything beyond the trailer itself. For sure. I'm talking about the trailer music as trailer music, not as anything more than that. Disco Stu 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monoverantus 363 Posted January 19, 2022 Share Posted January 19, 2022 1 minute ago, Disco Stu said: Always wise to pump the brakes when drawing any conclusions based on trailer music about anything beyond the trailer itself. True. Though the rising Ring motif (D-Eb-F-G) returns a couple of times in the teaser, I'm not gonna assume it's a new theme just from appearing here. Disco Stu and Chen G. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bilbo 3,709 Posted January 19, 2022 Share Posted January 19, 2022 5 minutes ago, Disco Stu said: I also found the voice off-putting at first, but yeah probably just because it's not Blanchett! Yeah, this is my feeling. You know it’s supposed to be the same character but you can’t reconcile the difference in your head. At least she correctly rolled the Rs in Mordor Nick1Ø66 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chen G. 3,949 Posted January 19, 2022 Share Posted January 19, 2022 She looks a lot like Cate Blanchett, but her voice is much lighter and higher. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted January 19, 2022 Share Posted January 19, 2022 Remember the Two Towers trailer scored with Requiem for a Dream? I always that was a weird decision considering Fellowship was already out so there was Shore music that could easily be drawn from. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chen G. 3,949 Posted January 19, 2022 Share Posted January 19, 2022 They did "LOTR-fy" it. It even got nicknamed "Requiem for a Tower"! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faleel 5,348 Posted January 19, 2022 Share Posted January 19, 2022 And then ROTK merged the Gondor theme with a Trailer cue. Chen G. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted January 19, 2022 Share Posted January 19, 2022 I haven't really seen a good reason to be optimistic about this series yet. Not sure there's a good reason to be pessimistic yet either beyond, "well most things turn out bad, so this probably will." I'll of course give it a chance when it releases! Chen G. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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