Jurassic Shark 12,079 Posted November 16, 2017 Share Posted November 16, 2017 A great score which needs to be made available again. Contains one of Rozsa's best themes. Will you contribute? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Pieter Boelen 740 Posted November 17, 2017 Popular Post Share Posted November 17, 2017 As much as I appreciate their efforts, would there be any chance of them rerecording a score again that isn't already available in reasonable sound quality? For example Rozsa's The Plymouth Adventure, Korngold's, Captain Blood, Rozsa's The Golden Voyage of Sinbad, Williams' Dracula, etc.? Or am I saying crazy things now....? Naïve Old Fart, Jurassic Shark and filmmusic 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted November 17, 2017 Share Posted November 17, 2017 We all know what happened to the last Tadlow Kickstarter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,079 Posted November 17, 2017 Author Share Posted November 17, 2017 10 minutes ago, Pieter_Boelen said: As much as I appreciate their efforts, would there be any chance of them rerecording a score again that isn't already available in reasonable sound quality? For example Rozsa's The Plymouth Adventure, Korngold's, Captain Blood, Rozsa's The Golden Voyage of Sinbad, Williams' Dracula, etc.? Or am I saying crazy things now....? I completely agree with you. Once there was a 2CD presentation from Warner of the complete score to Kings of Kings, in early 60s stereo. I would love to have this, and I would probably buy it over the Tadlow re-recording. At least Tadlow's initiative brings attention to the soundtrack, giving WaterTower Music an incentive to re-release the original. Pieter Boelen 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pieter Boelen 740 Posted November 17, 2017 Share Posted November 17, 2017 4 minutes ago, Stefancos said: We all know what happened to the last Tadlow Kickstarter. We do? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marian Schedenig 8,198 Posted November 17, 2017 Share Posted November 17, 2017 27 minutes ago, Stefancos said: We all know what happened to the last Tadlow Kickstarter. That's because they neglected to clear the rights beforehand. This time, James Fitzpatrick has done that and also has the blessing of Rozsa's daughter, so there shouldn't be any legal hiccups. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,643 Posted November 17, 2017 Share Posted November 17, 2017 32 minutes ago, Jurassic Shark said: Once there was a 2CD presentation from Warner of the complete score to Kings of Kings, in early 60s stereo. I would love to have this, and I would probably buy it over the Tadlow re-recording. At least Tadlow's initiative brings attention to the soundtrack, giving WaterTower Music an incentive to re-release the original. 35$ and it's yours: http://www.ebay.ca/itm/KING-OF-KINGS-Miklos-Rozsa-2CD-set-TCM-Music-Rhino-/201017496845 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,079 Posted November 17, 2017 Author Share Posted November 17, 2017 ...+$22.5 in shipping to Norway. But still, this is probably the cheapest copy I've seen. Too bad the auction has ended. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,643 Posted November 17, 2017 Share Posted November 17, 2017 Yeah. But i see this popping up on german eBay from time to time and max 60€ is the going rate. I vouch for the absolutely top-notch - for the time - sound quality. Will the Tadlow sound better? Absolutely. Does it make sense to choose this over a lot of other material in far worse shape? No. Pieter Boelen 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,079 Posted November 17, 2017 Author Share Posted November 17, 2017 2 minutes ago, publicist said: Yeah. But i see this popping up on german eBay from time to time and max 60€ is the going rate. I vouch for the absolutely top-notch - for the time - sound quality. Will the Tadlow sound better? Absolutely. Does it make sense to choose this over a lot of other material in far worse shape? No. I guess the choices about which score to re-record have a lot to do with the personal preferences of those in charge, in addition to what will sell well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,643 Posted November 17, 2017 Share Posted November 17, 2017 Sure. I want Lionheart, which is completely unnecessary. I still shove it down James' throat from time to time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted November 17, 2017 Share Posted November 17, 2017 The KoK OST on the FSM box sounds better than the Rhino 2-CD. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,079 Posted November 17, 2017 Author Share Posted November 17, 2017 That's great. Now let's just have it re-issued! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted November 17, 2017 Share Posted November 17, 2017 Nooooo! It'll devalue the whole thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,079 Posted November 17, 2017 Author Share Posted November 17, 2017 1 minute ago, Baby Jane Hudson said: Nooooo! It'll devalue the whole thing. So does taking off the shrink-wrap Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted November 17, 2017 Share Posted November 17, 2017 Just now, Jurassic Shark said: So does taking off the shrink-wrap I only remove the opening bit on boxsets. To preserve that new look. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,079 Posted November 17, 2017 Author Share Posted November 17, 2017 Just now, Baby Jane Hudson said: I only remove the opening bit on boxsets. To preserve that new look. You shouldn't listen to the CDs - you might get fingerprints on them or scratch them up! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted November 17, 2017 Share Posted November 17, 2017 They must remain as new as the day I bought them! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
filmmusic 1,829 Posted November 17, 2017 Share Posted November 17, 2017 2 hours ago, Pieter_Boelen said: As much as I appreciate their efforts, would there be any chance of them rerecording a score again that isn't already available in reasonable sound quality? THIS!! I see all these efforts totally unnecessary. There are many scores that we don't even have bad quality recordings of them. Let alone re-record a score that already sounds very good! But again, it's their label, they can record whatever they want. I just expressed how i feel. Pieter Boelen 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,079 Posted November 17, 2017 Author Share Posted November 17, 2017 7 minutes ago, Baby Jane Hudson said: They must remain as new as the day I bought them! That's right, Melania! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted November 17, 2017 Share Posted November 17, 2017 20 minutes ago, Jurassic Shark said: That's right, Melania! If you called me Joan, you would have won instant likes forever. Crawford liked to cover her furniture with plastic to preserve them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ollie 1,059 Posted November 17, 2017 Share Posted November 17, 2017 3 hours ago, Stefancos said: We all know what happened to the last Tadlow Kickstarter. According to Mr Fitzpatrick there’s still a chance for Moonraker. im content with the Rhino 2 CD set and I need to see the Black Friday releases first before I make a contribution. i agree there are other scores that need a re- recording, One Dangerous Ground is one of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,368 Posted November 17, 2017 Share Posted November 17, 2017 9 hours ago, Stefancos said: We all know what happened to the last Tadlow Kickstarter. 9 hours ago, Pieter_Boelen said: We do? http://www.jwfan.com/forums/index.php?/topic/25000-moonraker-the-tadlow-kickstarter-campaign/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pieter Boelen 740 Posted November 18, 2017 Share Posted November 18, 2017 Thanks! Too bad their first attempt fell through; hopefully they'll do better this time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Incanus 5,715 Posted December 27, 2017 Popular Post Share Posted December 27, 2017 I just received news today that this Kickstarter campaign was a success (with one more week to go)! Exciting to see this project now slowly becoming realized and it's great to have been a small part of making this come true by contributing to it. So King of Kings is coming in 2019! publicist, Jurassic Shark and Pieter Boelen 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marian Schedenig 8,198 Posted December 27, 2017 Share Posted December 27, 2017 With nearly €2k over the target at the moment, it does look quite safe. Never forget that backers can (and sometimes do) back out (no pun intended) before the end of the campaign, so a close victory can turn into a close loss if things go badly. Considering all the ideas over the years of "let's just get someone to reconstruct the Dracula score and crowdfund the recording ourselves" etc., I believe this is quite an important Kickstarter. It could pave the way for future re-recording campaigns, and the more money it ends up making, the better the chances that it encourages people to do further projects. So if you haven't backed yet, do consider it, and not just because of this one score. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wojo 2,453 Posted December 27, 2017 Share Posted December 27, 2017 What's wrong with the Rhino album? Alway sounded fine to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,017 Posted December 27, 2017 Share Posted December 27, 2017 Did anyone imply there is something wrong with it? Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romão 2,274 Posted December 27, 2017 Share Posted December 27, 2017 James did write this on the FSM thread: Just so people do not need to speculate...on my wish list are Dracula/the Curse of Frankenstein, The Vikings, Night of the Hunter, Jesus of Nazareth.....that's it...for now. I definitely will not be doing Black Patch or Face of the Fugitive...historically interesting Goldsmith scores but not particularly interesting musically....Spartacus....would cost twice as much as K of K and not a chance in he'll of even covering a small part of budget...and not really inclined to do any Herrmann as a sales disaster re Obsession.....but I can always be persuaded otherwise if enough people want to contribute their hard earned dosh! But for scores I love then I will fork out 50% of the total budget....but for others the "fans" will have to fun it 100%!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pieter Boelen 740 Posted December 27, 2017 Share Posted December 27, 2017 5 minutes ago, Romão said: Dracula/the Curse of Frankenstein Now I'm confused. Does that have anything to do with the Williams one? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romão 2,274 Posted December 27, 2017 Share Posted December 27, 2017 I suppose so, I don't think the 1931 had an original score to start with Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,017 Posted December 27, 2017 Share Posted December 27, 2017 Shame about the Obsession sales. I absolutely adore this recording. And the Blu-ray bonus disc is not too shabby either. Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romão 2,274 Posted December 27, 2017 Share Posted December 27, 2017 Although he could reffering to the Hammer films, though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,079 Posted December 28, 2017 Author Share Posted December 28, 2017 11 hours ago, Woj said: What's wrong with the Rhino album? Alway sounded fine to me. It's out of print and very expensive to obtain on the secondhand market. 9 hours ago, Romão said: Although he could reffering to the Hammer films, though You're probably right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,643 Posted December 28, 2017 Share Posted December 28, 2017 Yep, it's the Hammer. Not particularly good music, sadly. 'Jesus of Nazareth' and 'Might of the Hunter', on the other hand. Though on our german FB group we probably will set up our own 'Lionheart' kickstarter in due time. Philips is interested in tackling it, JP is not. But it would sell, so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,715 Posted December 28, 2017 Share Posted December 28, 2017 It's very difficult to gauge the popularity of these Kickstarter campaigns. E.g. one Finnish comic book artist has successfully funded two projects already and is currently funding the third which has actually already hit the goal and gone over it with over six times the amount of money needed (The campaign has gathered now over $220 000), which speaks of the dedicated fan base of these comics. I am time and time again amazed how many fans these comics have and how the free internet comic has spawned such a following. By comparison something like a re-recording of a biblical epic of a Golden Age composer seems again like a very niche market with relatively minor following. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,079 Posted December 28, 2017 Author Share Posted December 28, 2017 7 hours ago, publicist said: Yep, it's the Hammer. Not particularly good music, sadly. 'Jesus of Nazareth' and 'Might of the Hunter', on the other hand. Though on our german FB group we probably will set up our own 'Lionheart' kickstarter in due time. Philips is interested in tackling it, JP is not. But it would sell, so. Which FB group is that? I'm often baffled by the selection of scores to get a re-recording. For example, look at the Marco Polo and Naxos film music series. It has so many scores which I find mediocre or uninteresting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Naïve Old Fart 9,534 Posted December 31, 2017 Share Posted December 31, 2017 On 17/11/2017 at 11:44 AM, Pieter_Boelen said: As much as I appreciate their efforts, would there be any chance of them rerecording a score again that isn't already available in reasonable sound quality? For example Rozsa's The Plymouth Adventure, Korngold's, Captain Blood, Rozsa's The Golden Voyage of Sinbad, Williams' Dracula, etc.? Or am I saying crazy things now....? You're not crazy, Pete. I have KING OF KINGS, and the sound is really not bad, at all. Pieter's right; it would be nice to hear rerecordings of long OOP scores, instead of an update of an already good-sounding one. Having said that, I'm sure that it will sound fabulous. On 28/12/2017 at 9:48 AM, publicist said: Yep, it's the Hammer. Not particularly good music, sadly. James Bernard? "Not particularly good"?! Are you 'avin a giraffe?! Pieter Boelen 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Penna 3,694 Posted December 31, 2017 Share Posted December 31, 2017 On 11/17/2017 at 1:46 PM, filmmusic said: THIS!! I see all these efforts totally unnecessary. There are many scores that we don't even have bad quality recordings of them. Let alone re-record a score that already sounds very good! But again, it's their label, they can record whatever they want. I just expressed how i feel. I believe James has commented in the past that in order to make the money back, he has to do more than just sell CDs - he has to be able to licence his re-recordings like library tracks. (amongst other uses probably) Hence, he can't choose more obscure scores because they wouldn't have a life beyond us geeks. Pieter Boelen 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,534 Posted December 31, 2017 Share Posted December 31, 2017 Ah. That explains a lot. Thanks, Rich. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Brausam 214 Posted January 4, 2018 Share Posted January 4, 2018 On 12/31/2017 at 9:53 AM, Richard said: You're not crazy, Pete. I have KING OF KINGS, and the sound is really not bad, at all. Pieter's right; it would be nice to hear rerecordings of long OOP scores, instead of an update of an already good-sounding one. Having said that, I'm sure that it will sound fabulous. James Bernard? "Not particularly good"?! Are you 'avin a giraffe?! Not for nothing, as I own the Rhino King of Kings myself as well as the FSM box, but have you seen the second hand prices for KoK? https://www.amazon.com/King-Kings-Miklos-Rozsa/dp/B00006311P/ref=sr_1_2?s=music&ie=UTF8&qid=1515102228&sr=1-2&keywords=king+of+king+rozsa It's as bad as the LoTR complete recordings situation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,534 Posted January 4, 2018 Share Posted January 4, 2018 Oooh, er! $162?! I bought that five years ago, for £8:98. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Brausam 214 Posted January 4, 2018 Share Posted January 4, 2018 I know, haha I think I only paid $10 used for it when I was in college. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,079 Posted April 21, 2020 Author Share Posted April 21, 2020 I wonder when we'll see this KoK rerecording. Too bad about JF's health problems. On 12/28/2017 at 10:48 AM, publicist said: Yep, it's the Hammer. Not particularly good music, sadly. 'Jesus of Nazareth' and 'Might of the Hunter', on the other hand. Though on our german FB group we probably will set up our own 'Lionheart' kickstarter in due time. Philips is interested in tackling it, JP is not. But it would sell, so. How's it going with that Lionheart kickstarter? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,079 Posted May 11, 2020 Author Share Posted May 11, 2020 Has anybody seen a release date for King of Kings? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,643 Posted May 12, 2020 Share Posted May 12, 2020 no. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yavar Moradi 2,599 Posted May 12, 2020 Share Posted May 12, 2020 James Fitzpatrick's most recent post at FSM was just over two weeks ago (4/24): Quote Quote Any further news? On top of everything else I'm now having to isolate myself because I've got some symptoms of this damned disease. Not good news at my age Not long to go now .... artwork and master should be going off to get manufactured early May .... https://www.filmscoremonthly.com/board/posts.cfm?forumID=1&pageID=2&threadID=138322&archive=0 Yavar Marian Schedenig and Jurassic Shark 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Yavar Moradi 2,599 Posted May 22, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted May 22, 2020 Exciting update from James TODAY! Quote CD currently being manufactured in France .... Expect stock early next month ..but release date not as yet decided as first I have to see to all the Kickstarter contributors who will get CD ahead of release date. Not an easy task for a one man operation..... https://filmscoremonthly.com/board/posts.cfm?threadID=136694&forumID=1&archive=0&pageID=1&r=585#bottom Yavar Jurassic Shark, crocodile, Marian Schedenig and 2 others 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,079 Posted May 23, 2020 Author Share Posted May 23, 2020 Fitzpatrick needs a protege who can inherit his empire. Paging @Omen II! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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