Sweeping Strings 2,394 Posted September 13, 2020 Share Posted September 13, 2020 13 hours ago, Koray Savas said: $30 on top of a Disney+ subscription. For something (what with being a live-action remake) that's not even original content? Absolutely outrageous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,251 Posted September 13, 2020 Share Posted September 13, 2020 1 hour ago, Sweeping Strings said: For something (what with being a live-action remake) that's not even original content? Absolutely outrageous. That’s roughly the same price as two tickets if you went to a theater. Except you keep the film as long as you’re a subscriber. I think that’s completely fair. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wojo 2,453 Posted September 13, 2020 Share Posted September 13, 2020 If you just wait for December, it will be free with the subscription instead of $30 plus the subscription. This is the cost-effective way to go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edmilson 7,582 Posted September 13, 2020 Share Posted September 13, 2020 Indeed, it's better to wait until you can watch it for "free". Unless you're a Mulan stan and have been anticipating that movie for months, I believe people should wait. Let's not feed Mickey Mouse anymore than its already fed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruce marshall 1,319 Posted September 13, 2020 Share Posted September 13, 2020 MULAN is aimed at a family audience. So, $30 for four people doesn't sound outrageous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KK 3,307 Posted September 13, 2020 Share Posted September 13, 2020 On 9/5/2020 at 7:36 AM, Glóin the Dark said: Can't wait to read your explanation of what was happening! Watched this again. It's good. It's also a lot darker this second time around, oddly enough. And while it's no horror film in the genre-sense, he definitely plays his existential beats with a strikingly ominous horror-esque tone. It's perhaps Kaufman's most "intimate"/smallest film, but also maybe his coldest. His films, however indulgent, have always kept their emotions on its sleeve. But there is distance here, between viewer and characters. Still, I'm just really glad Kaufman is still given spaces to create work. He's an important voice. My understanding of the narrative: Spoiler Jake, the janitor, thinks back to the time he lost the nerve to go out and ask the Girlfriend out, and ends up imagining various scenarios of what a life with the Girlfriend could have been like (taking her to his parents' place, having her support while he gets the "Nobel Prize", etc). The ballet seems to be a visualization of his self-loathing neuroses overcoming a more idealistic, maybe even romantic version of himself, leading him to surrender to a life wasted, full of regret. And with the help of the talking pig, he makes some sort of peace with that as he dies of hypothermia. Yea...it's not exactly a Zemeckis flick Glóin the Dark 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweeping Strings 2,394 Posted September 14, 2020 Share Posted September 14, 2020 23 hours ago, Koray Savas said: That’s roughly the same price as two tickets if you went to a theater. Except you keep the film as long as you’re a subscriber. I think that’s completely fair. Admittedly I hadn't taken account of how many could potentially watch it for the $30 and didn't know you could keep it afterwards. What with living alone, I doubt I could justify 30 quid to watch a movie even with getting to keep it afterwards ... the Blu-Ray would cost me around half that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,363 Posted September 14, 2020 Share Posted September 14, 2020 Tenet box-office second weekend: $6,7 million That's roughly 20 million in two weeks. Tenet has do make like half a billion to make even. Where is crocs when Nolan needs him? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweeping Strings 2,394 Posted September 15, 2020 Share Posted September 15, 2020 Suspect Bill And Ted Face The Music will probably do better, both because it won't have cost anywhere near as much as Tenet and because its goofy good-naturedness will be more welcome right now than Nolan's head-scratcher. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted September 15, 2020 Share Posted September 15, 2020 It's as if the studio knew they had a Nolan turkey on their hands so they sent it out to die. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,048 Posted September 15, 2020 Share Posted September 15, 2020 The fact they were pushing so hard for this to be released right now baffles me. It's neither the right time nor appropriate content. Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,363 Posted September 15, 2020 Share Posted September 15, 2020 They wanted to save the theaters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,048 Posted September 15, 2020 Share Posted September 15, 2020 They should have released WW84 instead. Way more appropriate. But I suppose they didn't want to risk it with a surefire hit (in normal circumstances). Karol Edmilson 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KK 3,307 Posted September 15, 2020 Share Posted September 15, 2020 I'm sure they assumed Nolan's film would have been a surefire hit under normal circumstances too. And I have a feeling Nolan himself was pushing to get his film out as soon as possible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,363 Posted September 15, 2020 Share Posted September 15, 2020 1 hour ago, KK said: I'm sure they assumed Nolan's film would have been a surefire hit under normal circumstances too. Yes. Firstly, it's Nolan, a name that draws audiences to theatres. Secondly, the trailer promises an Inception like movie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KK 3,307 Posted September 15, 2020 Share Posted September 15, 2020 If I remember correctly, it was performing strongly worldwide. But it’s the domestic grosses that haven’t been faring well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edmilson 7,582 Posted September 15, 2020 Share Posted September 15, 2020 There's a reson for Tenet's underperformance at the US: theaters in New York, Los Angeles and San Francisco are still closed, and these are the cities where Nolan's movies perform best. Since they apparently are only opening in October, so Warner pushed WW84 to December so that people in NY and LA have the chance to watch Tenet in theaters. But yeah, general consensus is that the movie failed to bring people back to the theaters. I recommend reading this article from Forbes: https://www.forbes.com/sites/scottmendelson/2020/09/14/box-office-tent-nolan-wonder-woman-james-bond-mulan-movies/#1bf107a37cd4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,251 Posted September 15, 2020 Share Posted September 15, 2020 Are theaters open in the US generally? Everything is still shut down in the DC area. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,475 Posted September 15, 2020 Share Posted September 15, 2020 I drive by a drive-in movie theater everytime I go to the office and it's been open all summer, but other than a brief period where it was showing Invisible Man and The Hunt it always lists classic films on the marquee. I think right they have Breakfast Club and Ferris Bueller or something like that No idea about indoor theaters near me, we haven't bothered to check Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted September 15, 2020 Share Posted September 15, 2020 10 minutes ago, Koray Savas said: Are theaters open in the US generally? Everything is still shut down in the DC area. The 8 screen multiplex in my town is open here in Virginia. It's playing a mix of old movies and what new releases there are (Tenet). Show times are pretty limited, mask is required, half capacity only, etc. etc. I saw the new Bill & Ted here a few weeks back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,676 Posted September 15, 2020 Share Posted September 15, 2020 5 hours ago, Jay said: I think right they have Breakfast Club and Ferris Bueller or something like that What a fantastic Hughes double-bill! His two best films. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caliburn 72 Posted September 15, 2020 Share Posted September 15, 2020 I have not been on this forum for ages, I will try to do better :-) I saw TENET last week, that will be a tough score to review for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruce marshall 1,319 Posted September 15, 2020 Share Posted September 15, 2020 On 9/14/2020 at 7:54 AM, AC1 said: Tenet box-office second weekend: $6,7 million That's roughly 20 million in two weeks. Tenet has do make like half a billion to make even. Where is crocs when Nolan needs him? Why are you doing Edmilsons job? He lives to give box office results and you've taken that away from him . You monster! 😉 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,363 Posted September 16, 2020 Share Posted September 16, 2020 When it comes to Nolan, Edmilson isn't telling us the truth. He wants to protects him. They all do! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruce marshall 1,319 Posted September 16, 2020 Share Posted September 16, 2020 10 minutes ago, AC1 said: When it comes to Nolan, Edmilson isn't telling us the truth. He wants to protects him. They all do! Humor him. 😎 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,676 Posted September 16, 2020 Share Posted September 16, 2020 17 minutes ago, AC1 said: When it comes to Nolan, Edmilson isn't telling us the truth. YOU CAN'T HANDLE THE TRUTH! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,363 Posted September 17, 2020 Share Posted September 17, 2020 People in Southern United States are bad and evil. This film proves it once again. 6/10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,676 Posted September 17, 2020 Share Posted September 17, 2020 Alex, It probably makes better box office than "people in New England are all upper-class snobs, with first-world issues". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,363 Posted September 17, 2020 Share Posted September 17, 2020 Box-office? It's Netflix, Richard. It's free! FREE! Naïve Old Fart 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,676 Posted September 17, 2020 Share Posted September 17, 2020 Geez, you sound like General Zod. Freeeeee!!! Proof that you can't even give a Pattinson film away, these days. A24 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edmilson 7,582 Posted September 17, 2020 Share Posted September 17, 2020 So, another crap movie from Crapflix? They invest so much money in original programming, yet most of it suck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,676 Posted September 17, 2020 Share Posted September 17, 2020 That's because in no way can it be called "original". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,363 Posted September 17, 2020 Share Posted September 17, 2020 21 minutes ago, Edmilson said: So, another crap movie from Crapflix? They invest so much money in original programming, yet most of it suck. 6/10 isn't sucky. It's simply not very good either. It starts quite good but gets repetitive in the second half. And it's certainly not a movie I want to watch again. Rotten Tomatoes scores for The Devil All The Time: Critics of all sorts: : 68% Audience great and small: 89% (probably Pattinson fanatics) Bonus score: IMDb: 7.3/10 (but only 5000 entries so that's still going to change) Metacritic: 57/100 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted September 17, 2020 Share Posted September 17, 2020 What a horrible eye sore of a poster, I had to take a moment to make its title legible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edmilson 7,582 Posted September 17, 2020 Share Posted September 17, 2020 I haven't watched The Devil All the Time yet, but so far most Netflix movies I've seen this year are pretty bad. That one with Thor rescuing a young boy is mildling at best, and that one where Charlize Theron is an immortal woman was ass. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,363 Posted September 17, 2020 Share Posted September 17, 2020 14 minutes ago, Edmilson said: I haven't watched The Devil All the Time yet, but so far most Netflix movies I've seen this year are pretty bad. That one with Thor rescuing a young boy is mildling at best, and that one where Charlize Theron is an immortal woman was ass. Critics thought Uncut Gems was a near masterpiece. Then there's I'm Thinking Of Ending Things, another favorite of the critics. Maybe they are too arthousy? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeinAR 1,949 Posted September 17, 2020 Share Posted September 17, 2020 On 9/15/2020 at 9:52 AM, Edmilson said: There's a reson for Tenet's underperformance at the US: theaters in New York, Los Angeles and San Francisco are still closed, and these are the cities where Nolan's movies perform best. Since they apparently are only opening in October, so Warner pushed WW84 to December so that people in NY and LA have the chance to watch Tenet in theaters. But yeah, general consensus is that the movie failed to bring people back to the theaters. I recommend reading this article from Forbes: https://www.forbes.com/sites/scottmendelson/2020/09/14/box-office-tent-nolan-wonder-woman-james-bond-mulan-movies/#1bf107a37cd4 The reason is the film SUCKS ASS. On 9/15/2020 at 7:26 AM, AC1 said: They wanted to save the theaters. The theatres will survive. Its still the ABSOLUTE best way to see a film. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,363 Posted September 17, 2020 Share Posted September 17, 2020 4 minutes ago, JoeinAR said: The theatres will survive. Maybe, but they had a rough year and Tenet was their last hope to turn the tide. And from what I hear, AMC theatres are in financial trouble. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,475 Posted September 17, 2020 Share Posted September 17, 2020 46 minutes ago, AC1 said: Critics thought Uncut Gems was a near masterpiece. Then there's I'm Thinking Of Ending Things, another favorite of the critics. Maybe they are too arthousy? Uncut Gems is not a Netflix original movie, it's an A24 film https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_A24_films#2010s Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,363 Posted September 17, 2020 Share Posted September 17, 2020 Outside the US, it's technically a Netflix Original. https://www.whats-on-netflix.com/news/when-will-uncut-gems-be-on-netflix-2020/#:~:text=It's technically a Netflix Original,as of January 31st%2C 2020. And checking Netflix here, it indeed says 'Netflix Original'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,475 Posted September 17, 2020 Share Posted September 17, 2020 It's still a movie that only exists because A24 funded its making, Netflix simply picked up rights to stream it after the fact. This is different from all the other movies mentioned above, which only exist because Netflix funded them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,363 Posted September 17, 2020 Share Posted September 17, 2020 16 minutes ago, Jay said: It's still a movie that only exists because A24 funded its making, Netflix simply picked up rights to stream it after the fact. What do you mean "after the fact"? After they made the movie? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edmilson 7,582 Posted September 17, 2020 Share Posted September 17, 2020 1 hour ago, AC1 said: Critics thought Uncut Gems was a near masterpiece. Then there's I'm Thinking Of Ending Things, another favorite of the critics. Maybe they are too arthousy? I loved Uncut Gems, but it isn't a Netflix original as already said on this thread. They didn't produce the film, only distributed it outside of the US. I haven't watched I'm Thinking of Ending Things, but people say it's good. Maybe is an exception compared to other poor movies released by Netflix. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,363 Posted September 17, 2020 Share Posted September 17, 2020 1 minute ago, Edmilson said: I loved Uncut Gems, but it isn't a Netflix original as already said on this thread. They didn't produce the film, only distributed it outside of the US. I haven't watched I'm Thinking of Ending Things, but people say it's good. Maybe is an exception compared to other poor movies released by Netflix. Which is why it's officially a Netflix Original because there would be no Uncut Gems outside the US without distribution. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruce marshall 1,319 Posted September 17, 2020 Share Posted September 17, 2020 1 hour ago, AC1 said: Critics thought Uncut Gemswa s near masterpiece. Audiences didn't. Even Thor hated it! 😆 Piece of crap that I stopped watching halfway thru. 31 minutes ago, AC1 said: Which is why it's officially a Netflix Original because there would be no Uncut Gems outside the US without distribution. Rightm It's so awful it couldn't get theatrical distribution Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,363 Posted September 17, 2020 Share Posted September 17, 2020 14 minutes ago, bruce marshall said: Audiences didn't. Audience: Adam Sandler doesn't have superpowers? Boring! 14 minutes ago, bruce marshall said: It's so awful it couldn't get theatrical distribution It was released theatrically in the US (limited release). Outside the US, teens are only interested in superpowers, Bond, Nolan, and lightsabers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edmilson 7,582 Posted September 17, 2020 Share Posted September 17, 2020 40 minutes ago, AC1 said: Which is why it's officially a Netflix Original because there would be no Uncut Gems outside the US without distribution. I believe that for a movie or TV show to be called a Netflix Original, it needs to be produced BY Netflix. In Uncut Gems' case, it wasn't produced by Netflix, they didn't invest any money in the making of the movie. They just distributed it. But that's just semantics, I think, we can argue about this for hours without reaching a consent Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,475 Posted September 17, 2020 Share Posted September 17, 2020 59 minutes ago, AC1 said: What do you mean "after the fact"? After they made the movie? Yes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,363 Posted September 17, 2020 Share Posted September 17, 2020 20 minutes ago, Edmilson said: I believe that for a movie or TV show to be called a Netflix Original, it needs to be produced BY Netflix. In Uncut Gems' case, it wasn't produced by Netflix, they didn't invest any money in the making of the movie. They just distributed it. But that's just semantics, I think, we can argue about this for hours without reaching a consent I know, but what if I told you they were only able to make this movie thanks to Netflix? A theatrical release in the US is risky (and very expensive) but a Netflix international distribution deal makes all the difference. No distribution, no movie. That's how it has always been. Yes, officially Netflix didn't act as producer but who do you think paid the biggest check? They (the Safdies) already won before they made the movie. And that gives Netflix the right to call it a Netflix Original (outside the US). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruce marshall 1,319 Posted September 17, 2020 Share Posted September 17, 2020 If it doesn't have the ' Zimmer' t'aint originale. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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