General movie chitchat

[Naïve Old Fart 9,552]

3 hours ago, A24 said:

The theme 'possessed by the devil' is so passé.

 

The Devil does not possess people.

[Mr. Hooper 1,801]

Probably not...it's a cheap parlour trick beneath his talents.

[Edmilson 7,473]

Meh. Cthulhu is a better villain than Lucifer anyway.

 

Cosmic horror > Religious horror

[Naïve Old Fart 9,552]

11 hours ago, Mr. Hooper said:

Probably not...it's a cheap parlour trick beneath his talents.

 

Nothing is beneath The Devil's "talents", but The Devil uses his demons to possess people.

[A24 4,346]

It's devil, Richard, not Devil.

 

Really, you are giving devils too much credit!

[Jay 37,373]

Hey here's a nice little interview with Martin Scorsese

 

https://www.hindustantimes.com/entertainment/hollywood/martin-scorsese-interview-killers-of-the-flower-moon-leonardo-dicaprio-robert-de-niro-apple-tv-101695989444345.html

[Edmilson 7,473]

 

Studios Declare SAG-AFTRA Talks “Suspended”, Slam Guild For Rejecting Terms Offered To WGA & DGA

 

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[Edmilson 7,473]

A teacher has shown his fourth grade students a Winnie the Pooh movie.

 

But not the Disney version...

 

https://www.cbsnews.com/miami/news/parents-horrified-after-teacher-shows-inappropriate-movie-at-local-school/

[Mr. Hooper 1,801]

1 hour ago, Edmilson said:

A teacher has shown his fourth grade students a Winnie the Pooh movie.

 

But not the Disney version...

 

https://www.cbsnews.com/miami/news/parents-horrified-after-teacher-shows-inappropriate-movie-at-local-school/

That's some "innovative" education right there. I wish I had this guy as my 4th grade teacher.

[JNHFan2000 2,968]

Oooof. I find this very interesting.

 

 

 

[Thor 7,519]

Saw the film yesterday (in IMAX, no less). Was not super impressed, but then I was never a big Scorsese fan, so what do I know?

[Jay 37,373]

Michael Caine has retired from acting

 

https://www.bbc.com/news/entertainment-arts-67099084

[Thor 7,519]

Damn. He kept hinting at it, but now it's confirmed. But he's deserved his otium.

[Mr. Hooper 1,801]

He'll always be Hoagie Newcombe to me...

 

[Schilkeman 964]

7 hours ago, Thor said:

but then I was never a big Scorsese fan

(whispers) me too. I like the Irishman, and maybe Raging Bull. That's about it. I respect his work as good, but it just doesn't speak to me.

[filmmusic 1,841]

Talking about Scorsese, The Age of Innocence is one of my favorite films.

[Mr. Hooper 1,801]

When I'm flipping channels and 'Goodfellas' happens to be playing, I just get sucked into watching it every time.

[A24 4,346]

4 hours ago, Schilkeman said:

(whispers) me too. I like the Irishman, and maybe Raging Bull. That's about it. I respect his work as good, but it just doesn't speak to me.

 

Try Shutter Island. People who don't like Scorsese seem to make an exception for Shutter Island. Personally I hate it, but then again, I like most of his other movies. 

[Schilkeman 964]

15 minutes ago, A24 said:

 

Try Shutter Island. People who don't like Scorsese seem to make an exception for Shutter Island. Personally I hate it, but then again, I like most of his other movies. 

I've seen it, and didn't care for it. It doesn't help that I don't care for DiCaprio and he's in so many of his movies.

[A24 4,346]

50 minutes ago, Schilkeman said:

I've seen it, and didn't care for it. It doesn't help that I don't care for DiCaprio and he's in so many of his movies.

 

Yes, DiCaprio is Scorsese's new Rober De Niro.

[Naïve Old Fart 9,552]

7 hours ago, Mr. Hooper said:

He'll always be Hoagie Newcombe to me...

 

 

 

Caine's best film, and Caine's best performance, is, without the single possibility of a hint of a shadow of a doubt, GET CARTER.

[Brónach 1,302]

16 hours ago, JNHFan2000 said:

Oooof. I find this very interesting.

 

 

 

 

i saw a critic who saw it comment that it was strongly a story about a dumbass, and somehow this comment tracks as well.

[Jay 37,373]

Baz Luhrmann has made a new extended cut of "Australia" with an hour of restored footage, debuting at SXSW Sydney Festival this weekend

 

It then comes to Hulu on November 26 as a six-part miniseries

[Mr. Hooper 1,801]

37 minutes ago, Jay said:

Baz Luhrmann has made a new extended cut of "Australia" with an hour of restored footage

Just what we've been waiting for. lol

[Naïve Old Fart 9,552]

I saw AUSTRALIA at the cinema.

I regretted it.

I've tried to watch it a few times, since.

I get about 20 minutes in, and think "I just can't do this".

[filmmusic 1,841]

49 minutes ago, Naïve Old Fart said:

I saw AUSTRALIA at the cinema.

I regretted it.

I've tried to watch it a few times, since.

I get about 20 minutes in, and think "I just can't do this".

Yeah, I didn't like it either.

I barely was able to watch the  whole thing at the cinema. 

[Jurassic Shark 12,088]

I can't do Australia either. 

[JTN 2,043]

13 hours ago, Mr. Hooper said:

Just what we've been waiting for. lol

These directors really have a lot of time on their hands. Next thing will be a 4-hour cut of Oppenheimer.

[Jay 37,373]

I mean, the article literally explains that he only did this because Elvis filming got shut down due to covid

[JTN 2,043]

27 minutes ago, Jay said:

I mean, the article literally explains that he only did this because Elvis filming got shut down due to covid

Exactly, he had a lot of time on his hands.

[Naïve Old Fart 9,552]

50 minutes ago, JTW said:

These directors really have a lot of time on their hands. Next thing will be a 4-hour cut of Oppenheimer.

 

I wouldn't mind watching that.

The four hour cut of DANCES WITH WOLVES flies by, in no time.

 

 

 

 

57 minutes ago, Jurassic Shark said:

I can't do Australia either. 

 

The film, or the country?

[JTN 2,043]

Just now, Naïve Old Fart said:

The four hour cut of DANCES WITH WOLVES flies by, in no time.

Sure, because that's a great film. 

[Naïve Old Fart 9,552]

Are you suggesting that OPPENHEIMER isn't?

I haven't seen OPPENHEIMER, but I want to. In fact, I was due to see it a couple of weeks ago, but I was prevented from doing so.

 

[Jay 37,373]

I haven't seen Australia ever, but Oppenheimer is a good film - I doubt there's much left on the cutting room floor though.

Dances with Wolves is a masterpiece, and one of the better extended cuts out there.  I'm so happy they made that version!

[JTN 2,043]

34 minutes ago, Naïve Old Fart said:

Are you suggesting that OPPENHEIMER isn't?

I haven't seen OPPENHEIMER

Absolutely not suggesting that. I haven't seen it, either, but I'm not too interested in seeing a 3-hour long film about the creation of the atomic bomb. I will watch it some day , though, but I'd much rather watch a 4-hour Dances with Wolves than Oppenheimer or Avatar 2. 

[Thor 7,519]

Weird how our experience of time can fluctuate with these things.

 

When I watch any of the extended LORD OF THE RINGS films, times flies by in an instant. Four hours+ of RETURN OF THE KING? Easy-peasy.

 

Then a couple of days ago, KILLERS OF THE FLOWER MOON felt like every last minute of its three and a half hours. A slog.

 

But going beyond that, Béla Tarr's SATANTANGO, with its staggering seven hours and thirty minutes, suddenly feels hypotizing again.

 

Strange.

[JTN 2,043]

50 minutes ago, Jay said:

Dances with Wolves is a masterpiece, and one of the better extended cuts out there.  I'm so happy they made that version!

Hear, hear

41 minutes ago, Thor said:

But going beyond that, Béla Tarr's SATANTANGO, with its staggering seven hours and thirty minutes

I'm a Hungarian, but I could never in my life watch a single Béla Tarr-film from start to finish. In the first 20 minutes of his film The Turin Horse there's a man on a horse and carriage riding in the storm, then sitting face to the wall of his cottage, his back turned to the camera, in silence, for minutes, in black and white. I mean, come one, there's arthouse cinema, and there's mental masturbation. 

[JNHFan2000 2,968]

Here is the trailer for it.

 

 

[Glóin the Dark 1,222]

39 minutes ago, Thor said:

KILLERS OF THE FLOWER MOON

 

Two stars? Ouch! I think that's the first negative response to the film that I've seen so far. Can't wait to see it...

[JNHFan2000 2,968]

I've been seeing more and more negative things about the film. But it's Scorsese, so he'll get praise no matter what I feel.

 

I'm not a fan of his work personally. I like some of his films, but I don't think he is the master some others see him as.

 

I'm seeing it on Monday and I'm really curious about it

 

[JTN 2,043]

The thing with Scorsese is the same as with Spielberg. Unlike Clint Eastwood or Ridley Scott who, at the last stage of their lives, keep pushing themselves, Scorsese and Spielberg have become pale imitations of their former selves. Scorsese in his prime made some great films like Taxi Driver, Raging Bull, Goodfellas or Casino and my personal favorite, The Age of Innocence, but as he got older, his films became safer, and lackluster. Gangs of New York at least tried to be grand, but The Departed, for which he got an Oscar, was a paint-by-numbers piece. I haven't seen Silence, but I'm not that interested in anything he does these days. Same with Spielberg, who hasn't made anything really good since maybe Lincoln, or more like A.I. and Minority Report (War of the Worlds was good, too). 

 

It's great that these old masters are still working and making movies, but let's be honest, just because they gave us classics like Jaws or Taxi Driver, it doesn't mean that whatever they do, is gold. 

[Glóin the Dark 1,222]

16 minutes ago, JNHFan2000 said:

...I don't think he is the master some others see him as.

 

I'm with the others on that one. Granted, I'd say his 21st Century output is merely excellent, on average, rather than great. But what he did in the 70s and 80s earns him a place alongside the likes of Kubrick, Welles, Renoir and Murnau.

[Mr. Hooper 1,801]

3 hours ago, Jurassic Shark said:

I can't do Australia either. 

This is as much Australia as I'm good for...

 

[A24 4,346]

31 minutes ago, Glóin the Dark said:

 

I'm with the others on that one. Granted, I'd say his 21st Century output is merely excellent, on average, rather than great. But what he did in the 70s and 80s earns him a place alongside the likes of Kubrick, Welles, Renoir and Murnau.

 

Some here don't like Scorsese because he attacked Marvel superhero movies. 

[Glóin the Dark 1,222]

Maybe I'll turn against him too if I ever see any of those films...

[Mr. Hooper 1,801]

Just now, A24 said:

 

Some here don't like Scorsese because he attacked Marvel superhero movies. 

Sour grapes from Scorsese cuz he has trouble financing his passion projects while he sees hundreds of millions being spent on making and advertising Marvel movies.

[Thor 7,519]

8 minutes ago, A24 said:

 

Some here don't like Scorsese because he attacked Marvel superhero movies. 

 

I actually admire Scorsese for those comments. I'm also a big fan of him as a person, and his nerdy passion for film history. I dream of a nerdy conversation between Tarantino and Scorsese! No, my own "gripe", at least the main one, has more to do with the excess of dialogue. I'm just not a fan of carpeting a film with dialogue, even if it is as well-written and well-performed as in Scorsese's films. Some of the visual virtuosity -- which he DOES possess -- sometimes gets lost, or marginalized, in the process. There are exceptions, of course.

[A24 4,346]

10 minutes ago, Mr. Hooper said:

Sour grapes from Scorsese cuz he has trouble financing his passion projects while he sees hundreds of millions being spent on making and advertising Marvel movies.

 

You sound happy that all the money goes to superhero movies. Ah, well ...

[Naïve Old Fart 9,552]

You raise a good point, @Thor.

His work with Thelma Schoonmaker brought him into contact with Michael Powell, and all those lovely films by The Archers (although, truth to tell, he was, probably, aware of these, anyway).

Thus began his efforts to restore those films. If he hadn't, then, in 2009, I wouldn't have had one of the greatest cinematic experiences of my entire life: watching the restored THE RED SHOES.

[A24 4,346]

13 minutes ago, Thor said:

 

I actually admire Scorsese for those comments. I'm also a big fan of him as a person, and his nerdy passion for film history. I dream of a nerdy conversation between Tarantino and Scorsese! No, my own "gripe", at least the main one, has more to do with the excess of dialogue. I'm just not a fan of carpeting a film with dialogue, even if it is as well-written and well-performed as in Scorsese's films. Some of the visual virtuosity -- which he DOES possess -- sometimes gets lost, or marginalized, in the process. There are exceptions, of course.

 

You don't strike me as a Taxi Driver kind of fan, Thor, or any of his other 'dark outlook on the world filled with cynical characters' movies, for that matter.