Jay 38,660 Posted May 31, 2023 Share Posted May 31, 2023 The Munsters: Television Music of Jack Marshall (with The Deputy, Wagon Train & The Virginian) Universal Pictures Film Music Classics Collection (2-CD Set) Music by Jack Marshall Limited Edition of 2000 Units Coming From La-La Land Records June 6, 2023 https://twitter.com/LaLaLandRecords/status/1663927517667885057 Andy and thx99 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bespin 8,642 Posted May 31, 2023 Share Posted May 31, 2023 John Williams composed some tracks for Wagon Train... Source: https://www.jwfan.com/discography/music/composer/others.htm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cindylover1969 45 Posted May 31, 2023 Share Posted May 31, 2023 Safe to say if LLLL ever issues John Williams At Universal Television everyone here would lose their minds en masse. Yavar Moradi 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Thor 8,035 Posted May 31, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted May 31, 2023 John Williams played piano on Jack Marshall's THUNDER ROAD, so there's a connection there regardless. But yeah -- seeing original tracks from WAGON TRAIN released makes one wonder if it's possible to release some of the original Williams tracks from the series too, beyond the three re-recorded cuts on the ol' LP. Bespin, Cindylover1969 and Yavar Moradi 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post mstrox 6,765 Posted May 31, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted May 31, 2023 I said it elsewhere, but I suspect that this is the release that Mike was talking about a few weeks back - a non-Williams release with Williams in the booklet and hopefully appreciated “for what it is and what may come after” or whatever he said. Williams definitely wrote something brief on previous LLL Marshall releases. Once, GerateWohl, Yavar Moradi and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 38,660 Posted May 31, 2023 Author Share Posted May 31, 2023 Here's his exact words: On 14/05/2023 at 8:56 PM, BrotherSound said: More immediately there is a release that will be announced very soon that has been in the cooker for a long time, and I hope it will be well received for both what it is as well as for where it might potentially lead. & On 15/05/2023 at 12:52 PM, Jay said: I hope I’m still half cool when it’s revealed that we are knocking on a different door in the hallway than the usual ones. Nothing to do with John Williams, although there is a quote from him in the booklet. Yavar Moradi 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Yavar Moradi 2,845 Posted May 31, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted May 31, 2023 That is some damn gorgeous cover art. If that's not Jim Titus I'll eat my hat. Anyone underwhelmed is missing the BIG PICTURE here. I'm 100% sure this is the release Mike Matessino was referring to with those comments. So yeah the way I read this is that bigtime Hollywood director/producer Frank Marshall (son of film/TV composer Jack Marshall, who worked with Mike Matessino to produce two previous albums of his father's music, and presumably helped get a note from JOHN WILLIAMS HIMSELF on the Thunder Road album) is using his Hollywood clout to help Mike Mattesino (and therefore La-La Land Records and other labels) access more things at Universal than were available previously... namely Universal TELEVISION (aka Revue), where his father worked and produced some music to mine for album. Ever since the the Universal Classics series of mostly-premieres began half a decade ago, MV at LLL has been expressing hope of eventually getting into their TV holdings -- but this is the first time it's happened! (Yes, we had scattered examples before like Stu Phillips's Knight Rider work on FSM, but those were special cases.) So Mike's "where it might potentially lead" could mean a set of Oliver Nelson's The Six Million Dollar Man scores, a title MV has expressed clear interest in. It could mean finally an official release of original music for Columbo, by Nelson/Goldenberg/Melle/DeBenedictis/etc.! But it's not just about exciting 1970s TV music possibilities like those two titles. Not even remotely. Because we've heard composers like GOLDSMITH, WILLIAMS, SCHIFRIN, GRUSIN, and Quincy JONES reminisce about their camaraderie and time together working at Revue in the early-mid 1960s. These composers were in their PRIME back then, and there is now strong potential for PREMIERE releases of music in good sound, by ALL of them, from this important time period in their careers when they all had offices near each other at Revue and they were listening to what each other were doing. Oh and also...it wasn't just the new guys. Lots of amazing Golden Age veterans were also getting TV work at Revue during that same time period! Now for The Munsters and The Deputy, Jack Marshall was THE composer as far as I can tell. No guest composers listed on IMDb anyways (thought that's not always accurate as we all know). But let's look at the other two series, because La-La Land and Mike Mattesino were able to access original Jack Marshall scores for WAGON TRAIN and THE VIRGINIAN for this release! That means they've got archive access to tapes for those series -- *they have both located and transferred tapes* for those two beloved western TV series, which ran for a whopping EIGHT and NINE seasons, respectively. What premiere possibilities exist for those two series alone? Well on The Virginian there were single scores by Franz Waxman, Hans J. Salter, Oliver Nelson, Patrick Williams, and Frank DeVol! Multiple scores by Bernard Herrmann, Fred Steiner, Dave Grusin, Russell Garcia, Morton Stevens, Harry Sukman, David Buttolph, Richard Shores, Lyn Murray, David Shire (some of his earliest Hollywood composing credits), and Leonard Rosenman! To say nothing of an amazing Ennio Morricone theme written for the final season when the show became "The Men from Shiloh"! What a lineup of talent! But even that pales in comparison IMO to the potential of a Wagon Train set, folks... at least a HALF DOZEN original scores by none other than JOHN WILLIAMS! FIVE original scores by Jerome Moross (plus all the versions of his theme, of course). TWO original scores by JERRY GOLDSMITH! TWO original scores by Leigh HARLINE! FOUR by Ernest Gold! And, super exciting for me, a whopping SEVEN original scores by one of my favorite Golden Age composers, the underrated ROY WEBB -- these were actually his FINAL COMPOSITIONS for Hollywood! Then there are a bunch of scores by other quality names like Morton Stevens, Lyn Murray, David Buttolph, Cyril Mockridge, Richard Shores, Conrad Salinger, Alexander Courage, Laurindo Almeida, Jeff Alexander, Hans J. Salter, Nathan Van Cleave, etc. And then single scores by perhaps bigger names like David RAKSIN, Frank SKINNER, Daniele AMFITHEATROF, Frank DeVOL, Gerald FRIED, John GREEN, Herman STEIN, William LAVA, and Lalo SCHIFRIN. It is MIND-BLOWING to think of a potential 4CD set of premieres for this series... or hell why not go for a couple 4CD sets (and spread out the Williams and Goldsmith between them to help the sales)? And then there are all the Revue series that Jack Marshall didn't work on as he did with those two. We could get a CD of 87th PRECINCT music by Morton Stevens + the single score for the series written by Jerry Goldsmith. We could get a CD of DESTRY, a short-lived single season western TV series with THREE original Goldsmith scores, plus a score each from Morton Stevens and Cyril Mockridge. Then there are the anthology shows, with each episode treated almost like a mini-feature... CHRYSLER THEATER had original scores by WILLIAMS, HERRMANN, SCHIFRIN, and GOLDSMITH, among others. The various incarnations of KRAFT THEATER had original scores by WILLIAMS, WAXMAN, GOLDSMITH, SCHIFRIN, MURRAY, and HERRMANN, among others. and oh yeah maybe even the original tapes could be found for... THRILLER! SIXTEEN original scores by Goldsmith (which are much longer than the Tadlow suites would indicate), plus even more by Morton Stevens and Pete Rugolo (and one by William Lava). There are many other fantastic 60s and 70s shows to consider as well, which I'm sure others here can supply. But the mind boggles at the possibilities... Yavar bruce marshall, Romão, Once and 1 other 1 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post mstrox 6,765 Posted May 31, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted May 31, 2023 Sounds like Yavar is largely indifferent A. A. Ron, Yavar Moradi and Bespin 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yavar Moradi 2,845 Posted May 31, 2023 Share Posted May 31, 2023 To be fair, I guess that describes my reaction to this release itself… at least until I can hear sound clips. (The only one of these four series I’ve seen even a single episode of is Wagon Train, thanks to it having a Jerry Goldsmith score.) But I imagine this title selling well would help other titles I REALLY want to happen, be much more likely to happen. So I may just take the plunge on this, to indicate interest in more vintage Universal TV soundtrack releases. Yavar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A. A. Ron 1,814 Posted June 1, 2023 Share Posted June 1, 2023 Honestly, this particular “big picture” still underwhelms me, but I was never that big on TV scores. Yavar Moradi 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yavar Moradi 2,845 Posted June 1, 2023 Share Posted June 1, 2023 13 hours ago, A. A. Ron said: Honestly, this particular “big picture” still underwhelms me, but I was never that big on TV scores. Maybe you just need to get to know some better. Composers like Goldsmith and Williams and Herrmann, among others, were producing feature film quality work for TV. And this is the best hope for more outright Williams *premieres* than we've had in a while (really, since FSM closed up shop). Listen to this rip of a Jerry Goldsmith score for General Electric Theater, if you doubt: Utterly sublime, IMO. Yavar Once 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 38,660 Posted June 6, 2023 Author Share Posted June 6, 2023 THE MUNSTERS: TELEVISION MUSIC OF JACK MARSHALL with THE DEPUTY, WAGON TRAIN & THE VIRGINIAN: LIMITED EDITION (2-CD SET) LLLCD 1617 Music by Jack Marshall Universal Pictures Film Music Classics Collection Limited Edition of 2000 Units RETAIL PRICE: $29.98 STARTS SHIPPING JUNE 6 Order yours at www.lalalandrecords.com starting June 6 at 12 noon (pst) La-La Land Records and Universal Studios proudly present the sixteenth title within the acclaimed Universal Pictures Film Music Classics Collection – THE MUNSTERS: TELEVISION MUSIC OF JACK MARSHALL with THE DEPUTY, WAGON TRAIN & THE VIRGINIAN - LIMITED EDITION, music by Jack Marshall (THUNDER ROAD, MUNSTER GO HOME). After scoring the 1958 feature film THUNDER ROAD, legendary guitarist Jack Marshall would begin composing television series music for Revue (aka Universal Television). This limited edition 2-CD release is an exciting collection of Marhsall’s original television music for the beloved ‘60s comedy classic series THE MUNSTERS (1964-66), as well as brilliant material from the TV westerns THE DEPUTY (1959-61), WAGON TRAIN (1958-65) and THE VIRGINIAN (1962-71). This presentation marks the world premiere debut of this notable music in any format! This deluxe collection demonstrates the composer’s remarkable versatility, with Disc One dedicated to his delightful and iconic mock-macabre from both seasons of THE MUNSTERS, while Disc Two showcases highlights of his work from THE DEPUTY, WAGON TRAIN and THE VIRGINIAN. From Mockingbird Lane to the western frontier, Marshall’s innovative music effectively set the stage for laughs or drama – and everything in-between. Produced, edited and mastered by Mike Matessino, from studio vault elements, this special limited edition of 2000 units features exclusive liner notes written by author Jon Burlingame and Matessino and classic art direction by Jim Titus. A must-have for film/TV music and pop-culture enthusiasts from any generation! TRACK LISTING: DISC 1 THE MUNSTERS Season 1 (1964-65) 1 The Munsters Main Title (Season 1) :47 2 Episode Credits (Season 1) :21 3 Munster Masquerade 2:50 4 My Fair Munster 2:01 5 Pike’s Pique 2:32 6 Low-Cal Munster 5:03 7 Low-Cal TV Music 1:13 8 Knock Wood, Here Comes Charlie 2:51 9 The Midnight Ride Of Herman Munster 5:47 10 Family Portrait 5:32 11 Grandpa Leaves Home 1:24 12 Grandpa’s Call Of The Wild 2:31 13 Wild Radio Music :46 14 All-Star Munster 1:10 15 Eddie’s Nickname 4:01 16 Country Club Munsters 3:23 17 The Munsters End Title (Season 1) :33 Season 2 (1965-66) 18 The Munsters Main Title (Season 2) :46 19 Episode Credits (Season 2) :17 20 Herman’s Child Psychology 1:50 21 Herman, The Master Spy 1:10 22 Scuba Dive Radio 1:25 23 Bronco-Bustin’ Munster 4:07 24 Herman Munster, Shutterbug 2:49 25 Happy 100th Anniversary :39 26 Operation Herman 3:30 27 Lily’s Star Boarder 2:34 28 John Doe Munster 2:30 29 A Man For Marilyn 3:53 30 Herman’s Driving Test 2:25 31 Will Success Spoil Herman Munster? 1:30 32 Herman Picks A Winner 3:32 33 Herman The Tire Kicker 2:41 34 The Munsters End Title (Season 2) :34 DISC 1 TOTAL TIME: 79:01 DISC 2 THE DEPUTY Season 1 (1959-60) 1 The Deputy Theme :50 2 The Johnny Shanks Story 4:13 3 The Return Of Simon Fry 3:25 4 The Big Four 2:13 5 Big Four Saloon 2:19 6 The Next Bullet 3:18 7 Hang The Law 3:40 Season 2 (1960-61) 8 The Jason Harris Story 2:47 9 Bitter Root 2:59 10 Meet Sergeant Tasker 4:08 11 The World Against Me 3:10 12 The Means And The End 1:09 13 The Example 2:18 Total Time: 36:27 WAGON TRAIN “Charlie WoosTer - Outlaw” (1963) 14 Charlie’s Plan 3:13 15 Execution March / Protruding Tongue 2:34 16 Sleepwalking / Scotty / Bella 3:50 Total Time: 9:38 THE VIRGINIAN “Image of an Outlaw” (1968) 17 Rafe And Ben 1:26 18 Image Of An Outlaw / Exercising Horse* 2:21 19 Liz And Rafe 2:08 20 Abandoned Cabin / Liz And The Virginian 4:48 21 Dejected Men / Abe And Rafe 3:21 22 Stagecoach 4:35 23 Rafe Galloping 4:57 24 Rafe Strangles Angie / Liz Riding 3:11 25 Western Country And End Title* 6:17 Total Time: 33:02 DISC 2 TOTAL TIME: 79:15 * Contains “The Virginian” Theme Written by Percy Faith This is a CD format release. http://secure.campaigner.com/csb/Public/show/4our-2owybf--13r865-ag4f6q8 bruce marshall and Yavar Moradi 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bespin 8,642 Posted June 6, 2023 Share Posted June 6, 2023 OK, so it's really a box set for the music composed by Jack Marshall. There is no music by John Williams included in this. It seems like they heard us. I guess I'm not the only one who prefers small collections like this that focus only on one composer. Then I guess Johnny will have his own TV collection... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GerateWohl 4,891 Posted June 6, 2023 Share Posted June 6, 2023 5 minutes ago, Bespin said: OK, so it's really a box set for the music composed by Jack Marshall. There is no music by John Williams included in this. Yes. But there might be a quote from him in the liner notes. Bespin 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,745 Posted June 6, 2023 Share Posted June 6, 2023 4 minutes ago, GerateWohl said: Yes. But there might be a quote from him in the liner notes. Yes, but it remains to be seen if it was composed for this set. GerateWohl 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GerateWohl 4,891 Posted June 6, 2023 Share Posted June 6, 2023 2 minutes ago, Jurassic Shark said: Yes, but it remains to be seen if it was composed for this set. Then HIS name would be on the cover I guess. Jurassic Shark 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post MrJosh 895 Posted June 6, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted June 6, 2023 On 31/05/2023 at 1:43 PM, Yavar Moradi said: That is some damn gorgeous cover art. If that's not Jim Titus I'll eat my hat. Anyone underwhelmed is missing the BIG PICTURE here. I'm 100% sure this is the release Mike Matessino was referring to with those comments. So yeah the way I read this is that bigtime Hollywood director/producer Frank Marshall (son of film/TV composer Jack Marshall, who worked with Mike Matessino to produce two previous albums of his father's music, and presumably helped get a note from JOHN WILLIAMS HIMSELF on the Thunder Road album) is using his Hollywood clout to help Mike Mattesino (and therefore La-La Land Records and other labels) access more things at Universal than were available previously... namely Universal TELEVISION (aka Revue), where his father worked and produced some music to mine for album. Ever since the the Universal Classics series of mostly-premieres began half a decade ago, MV at LLL has been expressing hope of eventually getting into their TV holdings -- but this is the first time it's happened! (Yes, we had scattered examples before like Stu Phillips's Knight Rider work on FSM, but those were special cases.) So Mike's "where it might potentially lead" could mean a set of Oliver Nelson's The Six Million Dollar Man scores, a title MV has expressed clear interest in. It could mean finally an official release of original music for Columbo, by Nelson/Goldenberg/Melle/DeBenedictis/etc.! But it's not just about exciting 1970s TV music possibilities like those two titles. Not even remotely. Because we've heard composers like GOLDSMITH, WILLIAMS, SCHIFRIN, GRUSIN, and Quincy JONES reminisce about their camaraderie and time together working at Revue in the early-mid 1960s. These composers were in their PRIME back then, and there is now strong potential for PREMIERE releases of music in good sound, by ALL of them, from this important time period in their careers when they all had offices near each other at Revue and they were listening to what each other were doing. Oh and also...it wasn't just the new guys. Lots of amazing Golden Age veterans were also getting TV work at Revue during that same time period! Now for The Munsters and The Deputy, Jack Marshall was THE composer as far as I can tell. No guest composers listed on IMDb anyways (thought that's not always accurate as we all know). But let's look at the other two series, because La-La Land and Mike Mattesino were able to access original Jack Marshall scores for WAGON TRAIN and THE VIRGINIAN for this release! That means they've got archive access to tapes for those series -- *they have both located and transferred tapes* for those two beloved western TV series, which ran for a whopping EIGHT and NINE seasons, respectively. What premiere possibilities exist for those two series alone? Well on The Virginian there were single scores by Franz Waxman, Hans J. Salter, Oliver Nelson, Patrick Williams, and Frank DeVol! Multiple scores by Bernard Herrmann, Fred Steiner, Dave Grusin, Russell Garcia, Morton Stevens, Harry Sukman, David Buttolph, Richard Shores, Lyn Murray, David Shire (some of his earliest Hollywood composing credits), and Leonard Rosenman! To say nothing of an amazing Ennio Morricone theme written for the final season when the show became "The Men from Shiloh"! What a lineup of talent! But even that pales in comparison IMO to the potential of a Wagon Train set, folks... at least a HALF DOZEN original scores by none other than JOHN WILLIAMS! FIVE original scores by Jerome Moross (plus all the versions of his theme, of course). TWO original scores by JERRY GOLDSMITH! TWO original scores by Leigh HARLINE! FOUR by Ernest Gold! And, super exciting for me, a whopping SEVEN original scores by one of my favorite Golden Age composers, the underrated ROY WEBB -- these were actually his FINAL COMPOSITIONS for Hollywood! Then there are a bunch of scores by other quality names like Morton Stevens, Lyn Murray, David Buttolph, Cyril Mockridge, Richard Shores, Conrad Salinger, Alexander Courage, Laurindo Almeida, Jeff Alexander, Hans J. Salter, Nathan Van Cleave, etc. And then single scores by perhaps bigger names like David RAKSIN, Frank SKINNER, Daniele AMFITHEATROF, Frank DeVOL, Gerald FRIED, John GREEN, Herman STEIN, William LAVA, and Lalo SCHIFRIN. It is MIND-BLOWING to think of a potential 4CD set of premieres for this series... or hell why not go for a couple 4CD sets (and spread out the Williams and Goldsmith between them to help the sales)? And then there are all the Revue series that Jack Marshall didn't work on as he did with those two. We could get a CD of 87th PRECINCT music by Morton Stevens + the single score for the series written by Jerry Goldsmith. We could get a CD of DESTRY, a short-lived single season western TV series with THREE original Goldsmith scores, plus a score each from Morton Stevens and Cyril Mockridge. Then there are the anthology shows, with each episode treated almost like a mini-feature... CHRYSLER THEATER had original scores by WILLIAMS, HERRMANN, SCHIFRIN, and GOLDSMITH, among others. The various incarnations of KRAFT THEATER had original scores by WILLIAMS, WAXMAN, GOLDSMITH, SCHIFRIN, MURRAY, and HERRMANN, among others. and oh yeah maybe even the original tapes could be found for... THRILLER! SIXTEEN original scores by Goldsmith (which are much longer than the Tadlow suites would indicate), plus even more by Morton Stevens and Pete Rugolo (and one by William Lava). There are many other fantastic 60s and 70s shows to consider as well, which I'm sure others here can supply. But the mind boggles at the possibilities... Yavar Thanks for this fantastic post! Your enthusiasm and excitement is contagious! I couldn't help cheering along in my head as I read through this. I consider myself a newbie when it comes to most of these composers, but (as I've mentioned in other posts) I consistently am really enjoying most all early TV scores that I encounter, and I find myself wanting to explore some of these composers. I'm excited to order this set today and excited for whatever else comes from this project, I do hope this sells well. I'm going to make a list of the composers you listed off and start listening to them some more. Most of my early TV music that I know comes from the FSM Omnibus set, and the LLL Land of the Giants, Lost in Space, Time Tunnel and Star Trek. I'm excited to explore more. 1 hour ago, Jurassic Shark said: Yes, but it remains to be seen if it was composed for this set. Actually it was penned by William Ross, though Williams told him what to say. Once, Jurassic Shark and Yavar Moradi 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,745 Posted June 6, 2023 Share Posted June 6, 2023 1 hour ago, MrJosh said: Actually it was penned by William Ross, though Williams told him what to say. Of course. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 38,660 Posted June 6, 2023 Author Share Posted June 6, 2023 Samples and Direct Order! https://lalalandrecords.com/the-munsters-television-music-of-jack-marshall-with-the-deputy-wagon-train-the-virginian-limited-edition-2-cd-set/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bespin 8,642 Posted June 6, 2023 Share Posted June 6, 2023 I have to say that living in Quebec, which is a French-speaking province, I have never seen the series "The Munsters." I know what it is (mostly because of the parody of Grandpa Munster in Gremlins 2), I know the theme, but that's it. I believe this series simply never received a Quebec French dub. I see that in France, it was only broadcasted starting from 1986. Very strange! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edmilson 8,430 Posted June 6, 2023 Share Posted June 6, 2023 As far as I know, "The Munsters" is the name of the first episode of the fourth season of Succession Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holko 9,984 Posted June 7, 2023 Share Posted June 7, 2023 I don't really care about this release but gave the samples a go just to be sure. Holy shit! 60s TV music was recorded and archived in this quality??? What the fuck happened to film score recordings in the 70s??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bespin 8,642 Posted June 7, 2023 Share Posted June 7, 2023 3 hours ago, Holko said: I don't really care about this release but gave the samples a go just to be sure. Holy shit! 60s TV music was recorded and archived in this quality??? What the fuck happened to film score recordings in the 70s??? Drugs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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