King Mark 3,631 Posted February 3, 2006 Share Posted February 3, 2006 I loathed reading the chapters with Grawp in it. ugh..... It was annoying and got old quickly. It'll be more annoying to endure on the big screen....Me too,those chapters were a pain to read.K.M. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Breathmask 555 Posted February 5, 2006 Share Posted February 5, 2006 Yes, they were annoying the first time, and it got worse upon re-reading.Wouldn't be surprised if they spend $50 million on giving Gramp a two-minute cameo, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Docteur Qui 1,544 Posted February 6, 2006 Share Posted February 6, 2006 I'm annoyed but altogether not surprised that he has been confirmed in the film. Sure, he might be important in the last battle, but that's two movies away. Other than that he's a hopeless waste of screen-time, and I can't wait to hate him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Barnsbury 8 Posted February 6, 2006 Share Posted February 6, 2006 Though I love OotP as a whole (so many shining moments!), there were several parts which seemed extraneous and even tedious to read. Cleaning 12 Grimmauld Place (), Hagrid's [laborious and uninteresting] tale, and the frustrating encounters with Grawp (really Hagrid, did you need another reason for people to hate you?) were all just seemingly unnecessary filler. Although it's a longer novel, creating a shortened screenplay should be much easier for OotP than it was for GoF.Ray Barnsbury Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Docteur Qui 1,544 Posted February 6, 2006 Share Posted February 6, 2006 *cough* And the ridiculous climax in the Department of Mysteries! *cough*It's no secret that I have lots of problems with OotP. It's still a great book, but I can't help thinking the editor was too scared to cut anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Barnsbury 8 Posted February 6, 2006 Share Posted February 6, 2006 I love the climax of the book, from the heart-pounding chase through the Department of Mysteries, to Dumbledore and Voldemort's spine-tingling duel. What exactly, out of genuine curiosity, do you feel was wrong with it?Ray Barnsbury Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,631 Posted February 6, 2006 Share Posted February 6, 2006 Cleaning 12 Grimmauld Place Well,that's where they found the Slytherin locket isn't it? K.M. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nightscape94 965 Posted February 6, 2006 Share Posted February 6, 2006 I love the cleaning of 12 Grimmauld Place and the ending in the DoM. OotP is my favorite Potter novel....by far.Tim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Barnsbury 8 Posted February 6, 2006 Share Posted February 6, 2006 Well,that's where they found the Slytherin locket isn't it? That, and they established some interesting family ties, but it took a while to go anywhere.OotP is my favorite Potter novel....by far. It might be mine...I can never decide between that and PoA, and sometimes GoF.Ray Barnsbury - whose least favorite, after still just one reading, is undoubtedly HBP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Composer_Fan 2 Posted February 6, 2006 Share Posted February 6, 2006 ^Why HBP? I'll have to admit though, I got slightly queasy everytime she wrote about the "creature inside Harry's chest that was purring" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marian Schedenig 8,211 Posted February 6, 2006 Share Posted February 6, 2006 Well,that's where they found the Slytherin locket isn't it? That, and they established some interesting family ties, but it took a while to go anywhere.It was enjoyable though. More so the second time I read it, when I really liked the book. The Grawp stuff is very tedious indeed, but I doubt JKR would go through all for nothing; I expect he'll have an important (though proably minor) part in the final book.Ray Barnsbury - whose least favorite, after still just one reading, is undoubtedly HBPHBP is at least among my favourites. OOTP is nice, but in the bottom three.Marian - who has to get his HBP back from the friend who borrowed it. Flesh+Blood (Basil Poledouris) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeinAR 1,949 Posted February 7, 2006 Author Share Posted February 7, 2006 It started filming today I believe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nightscape94 965 Posted February 7, 2006 Share Posted February 7, 2006 You are correct. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SturgisPodmore 0 Posted February 7, 2006 Share Posted February 7, 2006 My mom has borrowed Ray Barnsbury's copy of HBP to read; she's enjoying it. ~Sturgis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Docteur Qui 1,544 Posted February 7, 2006 Share Posted February 7, 2006 I love the climax of the book, from the heart-pounding chase through the Department of Mysteries, to Dumbledore and Voldemort's spine-tingling duel. What exactly, out of genuine curiosity, do you feel was wrong with it?Ray BarnsburyWell I found the age-old idea of "suspension of disbelief" popping up more than usual in those chapters - obviously not the magical elements, but some of the other parts I had trouble swallowing. For starters, where on earth is the security in the Department of Mysteries? I know on that particular night they could have been dead/disabled/whatever by Death Eaters, but on other occasions we hear about the Department of Mysteries, it's been infiltrated by nothing more than an Invisibility Cloak. Secondly, and the most annoying, is the utter ineptitude of 12 (I repeat, 12) adult Death Eaters, trained beyond seven years at Hogwarts to kill/maim/whatever. They are repeatedly foiled by 6 scrawny, untrained witches and wizards. There's only so many times a killing curse can be interrupted by a lightning-fast Disarming spell before I scratch my head. And then, when Dolhov has a perfect chance of killing one of the little brats, what does he do? He uses a dancing curse on Neville. Right.It's not until the arrival of the Order that I actually enjoy that scene, and not until the Voldemort/Dumbledore duel that I love it. But the prior two chapters are quite frustrating. I sound a bit harsh here, and despite all of this I still like the book a lot, but coupled with the redundant (or at least agonisingly drawn-out) storylines and events it's far from my favourite.But H-BP is excellent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisAfonso 186 Posted February 7, 2006 Share Posted February 7, 2006 but it's the most complex with its (at least) 3 parallel story threads. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Docteur Qui 1,544 Posted February 7, 2006 Share Posted February 7, 2006 At the expense of coherency. It's more long than complex, too. As I said, the editor was scared to do their job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henry B 50 Posted February 7, 2006 Share Posted February 7, 2006 I love the climax of the book, from the heart-pounding chase through the Department of Mysteries, to Dumbledore and Voldemort's spine-tingling duel. What exactly, out of genuine curiosity, do you feel was wrong with it?Ray BarnsburyWell I found the age-old idea of "suspension of disbelief" popping up more than usual in those chapters - obviously not the magical elements, but some of the other parts I had trouble swallowing. For starters, where on earth is the security in the Department of Mysteries? I know on that particular night they could have been dead/disabled/whatever by Death Eaters, but on other occasions we hear about the Department of Mysteries, it's been infiltrated by nothing more than an Invisibility Cloak. Secondly, and the most annoying, is the utter ineptitude of 12 (I repeat, 12) adult Death Eaters, trained beyond seven years at Hogwarts to kill/maim/whatever. They are repeatedly foiled by 6 scrawny, untrained witches and wizards. There's only so many times a killing curse can be interrupted by a lightning-fast Disarming spell before I scratch my head. And then, when Dolhov has a perfect chance of killing one of the little brats, what does he do? He uses a dancing curse on Neville. Right.It's not until the arrival of the Order that I actually enjoy that scene, and not until the Voldemort/Dumbledore duel that I love it. But the prior two chapters are quite frustrating. I sound a bit harsh here, and despite all of this I still like the book a lot, but coupled with the redundant (or at least agonisingly drawn-out) storylines and events it's far from my favourite.Suspension of disbelief, yeah. Those chapters confused me, but they scared the hell out of me and took HP to completely new dimensions. Rather surreal. They would have incredible potential for score. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SturgisPodmore 0 Posted February 7, 2006 Share Posted February 7, 2006 Exactly true. The veil, and Luna's mysterious comments = ~Sturgis, who finds the last third or so of OotP to be f-in' amazing, and who's very glad to have this, our longest thread, back Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Barnsbury 8 Posted February 7, 2006 Share Posted February 7, 2006 Long live Potterdom!Ray Barnsbury - not actually this nerdy in real life Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nightscape94 965 Posted February 11, 2006 Share Posted February 11, 2006 Anyone else been hearing these reports that Gary Oldman might not be reprising his role of Sirus in the upcoming film? Apparently he asking for a lot of money (rumored), and the studio hasn't agreed to it. As of right now, even though filming has started, he has yet to sign on for OotP.Tim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted February 12, 2006 Share Posted February 12, 2006 Probably making sure he's not just a special effect in OOTP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nightscape94 965 Posted February 12, 2006 Share Posted February 12, 2006 Well considering his character is all over the book, I can't imagine the film without him.Tim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeinAR 1,949 Posted February 12, 2006 Author Share Posted February 12, 2006 Its nice to know the Dursleys are back Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marian Schedenig 8,211 Posted February 12, 2006 Share Posted February 12, 2006 Considering the character has one of the most important scenes in the book, they can't and won't just skip him. I hope they don't re-cast.Marian - who found the cameo in GOF pretty pointless (like so much else in that movie). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Docteur Qui 1,544 Posted February 12, 2006 Share Posted February 12, 2006 I can't blame Oldman. His "appearence" in GoF was nothing short of ridiculous. If you have a good actor, use him. Not his voice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lamiahp 0 Posted February 12, 2006 Share Posted February 12, 2006 Do you know if John Williams will make the harry potter's soundtracks , the five?just for information please??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted February 12, 2006 Share Posted February 12, 2006 Unlikely, but not 100% impossible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLUMENKOHL 1,068 Posted February 12, 2006 Share Posted February 12, 2006 He looks quite booked for 07 as it stands... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lamiahp 0 Posted February 12, 2006 Share Posted February 12, 2006 thx :cry: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Datameister 2,044 Posted February 12, 2006 Share Posted February 12, 2006 I didn't really care for Doyle's score to number 4...I hope if they can't get Maestro Williams back, they'll at least pick someone who can do the movies justice. Doyle's attempt was okay, but nothing I'd buy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted February 12, 2006 Share Posted February 12, 2006 GOF is a fine score, a lot more cohesive and interesting then Chamber Of Secrets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeinAR 1,949 Posted February 12, 2006 Author Share Posted February 12, 2006 GOF is a fine score, a lot more cohesive and interesting then Chamber Of Secrets.Stefan, your developing Morlock disease, you are losing credibility, the Patrick Doyle score is bland, very bland like a low salt diet.there is nothing on that score even close to the granduer of Fawkes the Phoenix, or COS, or several other wonderful tracks on the COS soundtrack. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLUMENKOHL 1,068 Posted February 12, 2006 Share Posted February 12, 2006 It's not bland, so much that it has a neutral tone to it. It's not overly joyous, or overly evil. It has this "cold" feel to it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeinAR 1,949 Posted February 12, 2006 Author Share Posted February 12, 2006 its the least effective score in the 4 film cycle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted February 12, 2006 Share Posted February 12, 2006 there is nothing on that score even close to the granduer of Fawkes the Phoenix.The track Fawkes the Phoenix is not used in the film at all, so i'm discounting it.As for Morlock-disease.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robthehand 3 Posted February 12, 2006 Share Posted February 12, 2006 It's not bland, so much that it has a neutral tone to it. It's not overly joyous, or overly evil. It has this "cold" feel to it.But it's cold like take-away pizza when you've been stuck in a traffic jam, as opposed to "chilling", which a "cold" film score should be. Doyle's score is adequate, but incredibly boring. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeinAR 1,949 Posted February 12, 2006 Author Share Posted February 12, 2006 actually its used several times Master. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted February 12, 2006 Share Posted February 12, 2006 its the least effective score in the 4 film cycle.As a film score, it's a lot less obtrusive then COS, which annoys every time it rehashed Philosophers Stone music out of context. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lamiahp 0 Posted February 12, 2006 Share Posted February 12, 2006 I am agree with JoeinAr doyles soundtracks is bland very boring!!John Williams had known find the magical universe of JK Rowling but Doyles Had make a tipical british sountracks!! very bad!! exusme for the term but it's a noob Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,631 Posted February 12, 2006 Share Posted February 12, 2006 JW is not set to score anything at the moment,maybe he'll accept to return to HP.K.M. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henry B 50 Posted February 12, 2006 Share Posted February 12, 2006 The only thing I really like about GoF is the statements of Hedwig's theme. I don't get it: every time that theme shows up, the orchestration is suddenly interesting, and I love Doyle's new take on it. Why didn't he devote as much effort to his own themes? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Docteur Qui 1,544 Posted February 12, 2006 Share Posted February 12, 2006 I'm with Steef. I can't stand to watch CoS as it is, but when I hear tracked music jump in at the most inappropriate times I want to rip my hair out. GoF is presented in the movie as it was intended, and the music is mixed at a good level. Not so for CoS, which is chopped, tracked and barely audible. Also, as much as I love Fawkes' theme, it simply doesn't musically associate with the character of Fawkes for me. Where are the haunting, quavering passages that describe how Fawkes sings? It's too "grand" for Fawkes - perhaps better suited for Buckbeak (though his music is fine as it is). Many people listened to the track on reading the last few chapters of H-BP, but I simply couldn't do it. It would have ruined the mood for me. I love the piece, but it's not Fawkes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Breathmask 555 Posted February 12, 2006 Share Posted February 12, 2006 I had that too. I like the track, but it may be a bit too grand.Instead, I listened to Finale from PoA when finishing HBP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BurgaFlippinMan 7 Posted February 13, 2006 Share Posted February 13, 2006 He looks quite booked for 07 as it stands...what's he got for 07? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nightscape94 965 Posted February 13, 2006 Share Posted February 13, 2006 I believe he's scoring Uwe Boll's next film, slated for '07.Tim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted February 13, 2006 Share Posted February 13, 2006 The mood at the end of HAP was already ruined by Harry and Ginny's sickening break-up scene. Horribly written romance, just horrible. George Lucas could write better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Barnsbury 8 Posted February 13, 2006 Share Posted February 13, 2006 Well, don't forget that phoenix song also causes feelings of warmth, comfort, happiness, etc to wash over the listener. Though it does become quite grand, the piece/theme surely achieves this. I don't find it inappropriate at all, and its uses in the film, which is the main place any connection between the screen and music matters, are perfectly fitting. So really, I see no problem with it.Ray Barnsbury Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Docteur Qui 1,544 Posted February 13, 2006 Share Posted February 13, 2006 It's less haunting than jaunty and bright though, IMO. I was expecting something like... well, Hedwig's Theme. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeinAR 1,949 Posted February 13, 2006 Author Share Posted February 13, 2006 The mood at the end of HAP was already ruined by Harry and Ginny's sickening break-up scene. Horribly written romance, just horrible. George Lucas could write better.your opinion is in the minority, I thought it was terrific, but if you think AOTC, and Sith were better written, then :roll: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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