Lurker 5 Posted June 1, 2005 Share Posted June 1, 2005 You can read about it here.Neil Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeinAR 1,949 Posted June 1, 2005 Share Posted June 1, 2005 there is nothing to read at that link. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fommes 153 Posted June 1, 2005 Share Posted June 1, 2005 I can't read anything either. The title sounds promising though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacck 23 Posted June 1, 2005 Share Posted June 1, 2005 o_O Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurker 5 Posted June 1, 2005 Author Share Posted June 1, 2005 Bizarre that the article isn't working now. He's leaving Lucasfilm and going to Pixar.Neil Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacck 23 Posted June 1, 2005 Share Posted June 1, 2005 So,,, just to clear this up.. he did film editing and sound design? ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Crichton 4 Posted June 1, 2005 Share Posted June 1, 2005 About 6 or 7 years overdue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
diskobolus 3 Posted June 1, 2005 Share Posted June 1, 2005 Bizarre that the article isn't working now. He's leaving Lucasfilm and going to Pixar.NeilNOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Pixar must resist the evil! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrScratch 294 Posted June 1, 2005 Share Posted June 1, 2005 Bizarre that the article isn't working now. He's leaving Lucasfilm and going to Pixar.Apparently, he used George Lucas' private bathroom. Lucas sent him a memo to use the employee bathroom from now on. Burtt stormed into Georges office, told him off, and quit.Jeff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fommes 153 Posted June 1, 2005 Share Posted June 1, 2005 Apparently, he used George Lucas' private bathroom. Lucas sent him a memo to use the employee bathroom from now on. Burtt stormed into Georges office, told him off, and quit. George was right. When he entered his bathroom, every possible machine or tap was left on. There was sound everywhere. Also, half of his bath tub was missing and tracked with part of the shower. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Breathmask 555 Posted June 1, 2005 Share Posted June 1, 2005 Also, half of his bath tub was missing and tracked with part of the shower. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIEfighter 0 Posted June 1, 2005 Share Posted June 1, 2005 Ben Burtt quitsthat was six years too late Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurker 5 Posted June 1, 2005 Author Share Posted June 1, 2005 More confirmation.Neil - hoping this link works Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,631 Posted June 1, 2005 Share Posted June 1, 2005 Too late,he still managed to partailly ruin the Soundmix in RotS.Noiw that he's gone,Williams should re-edits the prequels himself...K.M. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chinaismine 64 Posted June 1, 2005 Share Posted June 1, 2005 Sounding Out: Ben Burtt Jr.CNY native played off-screen role in all 6 'Star Wars' films Thursday, May 26, 2005By Joan E. Vadeboncoeur Staff writer Twenty-nine years and 10 months. No one else besides "Star Wars" creator George Lucas has spent so much time in a galaxy far, far away, up close and personal with Jedi knights, storm troopers, wise old Yoda and those delightful droids R2-D2 and C-3PO as Ben Burtt Jr. The Syracuse native, who has been sound designer on all six "Star Wars" films, refers to it as his "tour of duty." Almost fresh out of film school with a couple of assignments with low-budget, high-profile filmmakers Roger Corman and Russ Meyer, he was plucked by Lucas for the original "Star Wars." Through nearly three decades, Burtt also has been in the thick of the progress and process of cinema, from the digital revolution to what is termed "pre-visualization." Ahead of filming, Burtt and fellow technicians film a mock scene which can be shown to Lucas, the cinematographers and camera operators to orient them to the sequence. With "Sith," Burtt says in a recent phone interview, these small films would be watched by the actors as they played out a scene. This process, he says, gave them a keener sense of the action, rather than simply acting against blue screen before computer-generated characters and scenes were added. It is over now and Burtt, who has won four Oscars for sound effects editing and creature and robot voice creation, is moving on. He is joining Pixar Animation. It is, he says, time for a fresh wind to blow. "George hasn't announced officially what his next projects are," he says. At Lucasfilm, almost everyone works from project to project. The "Star Wars" adventures have guaranteed three years' employment, but nothing past that. Besides, Burtt admits, "The last few years have been frustrating, so I was at a point of change. But I had no official plan." Yet, the time had come for a new challenge and Pixar came calling. He terms it "the most attractive" of his offers. One reason, Burtt chose Pixar was its Bay Area location. The filmmaker has long been a resident of Northern California not far from Lucas' headquarters at Skywalker Ranch in Marin County and its allied operations. Burtt had no desire to pack up for Hollywood. More significantly, the sound designer and film editor knew many of the Pixar folks. He recalls that many of the Pixar honchos had been Lucas employees when it was a small division of Lucasfilm. "I had an office just down from them. We were the big shots," he says with a chuckle. Soon Lucas sold the operation to Steve Jobs, co-founder of Apple Computer. Eventually that business became Pixar, which turned out the blockbusters "Finding Nemo," "Toy Story" flicks and "Monsters, Inc." This week, after a brief break for R & R, the 56-year-old joins that firm. It will not be his first experience with animation. When the now-Pixar cohorts were working down the hall at Lucasfilm, they persuaded Burtt to try his hand. The result was "The Adventures of Andre and Wally B.," the tale of a bulbous-nosed android named Wally and a persistent bee, the other title creature. Words of wifely wisdom Wives are often said to be the severest critics of their husbands' work. Just ask Burtt. A couple of weeks ago, the co-editor of "Revenge of the Sith" showed a finished print at his alma mater, the University of Southern California. He was worried about its reception and that it might not satisfy fans. He confided his concerns to his wife, Peg. But, after the screening, he was heartened at the cheers and applause the film received. Burtt says, "Peg (in her first look), who is not a 'Star Wars' fan, told me, 'I really can't trust you, Ben.' " Bet that it came as his greatest compliment. - Joan E. Vadeboncoeur, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisAfonso 186 Posted June 1, 2005 Share Posted June 1, 2005 He's (...) going to Pixar.NeilQuote Darth Vader here... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big_Cheese 0 Posted June 1, 2005 Share Posted June 1, 2005 Yay! He's gone. Sure he was a good sound effects editor and all, but he butchered the score. Imagine if they had him around for the original Toy Story. Randy Newman's "You got a friend in me" would have become "You got...me." Didn't Matthew Wood do the sound design in ROTS anyway? So our score butchering complaints (there aren't too many) should be directed towards him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisAfonso 186 Posted June 1, 2005 Share Posted June 1, 2005 I hope they will let him do sound effects at Pixar and keep his meddlesome hands away from anything related to editing and music. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Todd 30 Posted June 1, 2005 Share Posted June 1, 2005 Burtt is a sound God...really the first and one of the greatest. Then the prequel trilogy came out. I haven't cared for his editting of film at all, and should never be a music editor...althought I think those changes have a lot more to do with George's personal decisions.Thanks for all the great Star Wars sounds, Ben...you could do some great things for Pixar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marian Schedenig 8,198 Posted June 1, 2005 Share Posted June 1, 2005 Thanks for all the great Star Wars sounds, Ben...you could do some great things for Pixar."Terrible...but great."Marian - Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Crichton 4 Posted June 1, 2005 Share Posted June 1, 2005 I haven't cared for his editting of film at all, and should never be a music editor...althought I think those changes have a lot more to do with George's personal decisions.Being picky here, but Burtt was never a music editor officially. He was just the last guy to handle the overall sound design before release. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Barnsbury 8 Posted June 2, 2005 Share Posted June 2, 2005 No one else besides "Star Wars" creator George Lucas has spent so much time in a galaxy far, far away, up close and personal with Jedi knights, storm troopers, wise old Yoda and those delightful droids R2-D2 and C-3PO as Ben Burtt Jr. Oh really? Ray Barnsbury Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THEfranz_conrad 0 Posted June 2, 2005 Share Posted June 2, 2005 Well... I don't know how much Burtt can be blamed for the apalling music edits in the films, or the recutting after scoring sessions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henry B 50 Posted June 2, 2005 Share Posted June 2, 2005 So who's gonna chop up the music for the DVD-only extended scenes? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,631 Posted June 2, 2005 Share Posted June 2, 2005 Not the edits,but the final soundmix,like how loud the SFX are vs the music.It's pretty clear from interviews that the SW films would have no music at all if it was up to him so he just tosses it distantly in the background in as many scenes he can get away with.In the OT the SFX were still loud but the music details were always clear present in every scene.Now you have to strain to hear the music in a lot of scenes,and forget about the details of the orchestrations.K.M. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THEfranz_conrad 0 Posted June 2, 2005 Share Posted June 2, 2005 Would that the SW sound mixes were done by an artist like Walter Murch who has a much more balanced approach to the value of different sound components. Would that he'd edited them too actually. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trent B 337 Posted June 2, 2005 Share Posted June 2, 2005 That is one of the things that have pissed me off about Burtt....he perfers to have "his music" louder over Williams. There is so much good music in that movie that a lot of it is drowned out by sound effects....irritates the hell out of me a lot of times... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheTennisBallKid 17 Posted June 2, 2005 Share Posted June 2, 2005 No one else besides "Star Wars" creator George Lucas has spent so much time in a galaxy far, far away, up close and personal with Jedi knights, storm troopers, wise old Yoda and those delightful droids R2-D2 and C-3PO as Ben Burtt Jr. Oh really? My thoughts exactly.No, wait, I did this too.ttbk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kendal_Ozzel 36 Posted June 2, 2005 Share Posted June 2, 2005 While I know we all dislike what he has done to music, the man really does know sound FX. In this regard, I'm sad he won't be working on Indy 4. Hopefully someone else will throw in the Wilhelm for us. Heck, he's the one who started the whole Wilhelm thing, and now everybody's doing it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Skywalker 1,795 Posted June 2, 2005 Share Posted June 2, 2005 They may bring him for Indy IV after all, they guy is not quitting becasue malcontent, it just that he needs job and Lucasfilm has finished starwars.Lets hope he doesnt mess up with the score this time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisAfonso 186 Posted June 2, 2005 Share Posted June 2, 2005 Heck, he's the one who started the whole Wilhelm thing, and now everybody's doing it.I don't think so. I have a video with tens of Wilhelms from all over movie history included, and following the original one (by the guy called Wilhelm), there immediately were films after it that reused it. And that was long before Burtt even finished college. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kendal_Ozzel 36 Posted June 2, 2005 Share Posted June 2, 2005 I don't think so. I have a video with tens of Wilhelms from all over movie history included, and following the original one (by the guy called Wilhelm), there immediately were films after it that reused it. And that was long before Burtt even finished college.Well, he's probably the single person most responsible for it's continued popularity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HPFAN_2 0 Posted June 2, 2005 Share Posted June 2, 2005 What's wrong with Ben Burtt? Forgive my ignorance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Breathmask 555 Posted June 2, 2005 Share Posted June 2, 2005 Burtt has sort of made the Wilhelm a signature of his, but it was recorded and used long before his time. And these days it's often used as a nod to Star Wars (like in LotR). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisAfonso 186 Posted June 2, 2005 Share Posted June 2, 2005 Used as a nod to Star Wars? Has anyone responsible stated this? Otherwise I don't understand how using an old Western sound effect constitutes a nod to Star Wars. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Breathmask 555 Posted June 2, 2005 Share Posted June 2, 2005 Well, as I understand it, McCallum allowed Jackson and co. to check out some of the pre-viz facilities at Lucasfilm. It is assumed that as something of a "thank you" the Wilhelm was included in Two Towers (and again in RotK). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Crichton 4 Posted June 2, 2005 Share Posted June 2, 2005 What's wrong with Ben Burtt? Forgive my ignorance.Low mixing of the score vs. loud SFX mixing. Bad editor. Holds a good amount of responsibility for the horrible looping, tracking, and general hacking up of the scores. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisAfonso 186 Posted June 2, 2005 Share Posted June 2, 2005 It's really a shame he feels the urge to get involved in all kind of stuff. If he would just stay with creating his awesome sound effects, he would hear nothing but praise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Breathmask 555 Posted June 2, 2005 Share Posted June 2, 2005 True. His sound design on Star Wars was brilliant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big_Cheese 0 Posted June 2, 2005 Share Posted June 2, 2005 I love the SFX in the star wars movies.The Wilhelm is a cool scream.However, the SFX were too overpowering in the prequels.I very much dislike straining to hear the music. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kendal_Ozzel 36 Posted June 2, 2005 Share Posted June 2, 2005 Isn't Ben Burtt the person who named the Wilhelm (after the charater he first heard use it in The Charge at Feather River)?. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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