What Is The Last Score You Listened To? (older scores)

[Faleel 5,350]

The Gia scores dont really count, IMO.

The ST 2009 score is just OK with many meh moments but Into Darkness is a fine score (thought compared to Goldsmith's scores and Horner's, it's peanuts, yes)

So we're at (roughly) the same point, you and I. You have to listen to The Final Frontier, though! It's great! And The Voyage Home is nice too. I think you'd like it.

Thoughts on the ones you've heard so far? (Even if it's just one word for each).

And your ranking?

Mine or KK's?

Yours.

Just TOS for now.

[#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265]

The Gia scores dont really count, IMO.

The ST 2009 score is just OK with many meh moments but Into Darkness is a fine score (thought compared to Goldsmith's scores and Horner's, it's peanuts, yes)

Each of the Star Trek scores have a certain something about them, as different as they are, they make them...i dunno...Star Trekkie. The Gia scores just feel completely different.

[BloodBoal 7,538]

[#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265]

The Rosenman is more annoying, but the Gia ones are more mediocre. Even the Rosenman score has Star Trek moments though. I dont like that score, but the reveal of the Enterprise gives me goosebumps.

[KK 3,307]

I don't know, my thoughts keep changing. TWOK used to be my favourite, just because I loved the nautical seafaring adventure vibe to it. Now, the main theme doesn't do as much for me however. It's still really good stuff, but I think I prefer TSFS because of that lovely mysticism in the score's sound.

In the beginning, I wasn't all that big a fan of Goldsmith's score. There was too much pomp for me I guess. I've come a long way with it though, and it's a score I enjoy quite a bit. Goldsmith really nailed the sound of the franchise here, and Illia's theme is absolutely sublime.

Ultimately, I don't listen to these scores often though (though I probably should), so I'm not as familiar with them as many of you might be.

I couldn't rank them without giving them more proper listens again. It's been a while.

[BloodBoal 7,538]

[Faleel 5,350]

Star Trek: The Motion Picture.

[#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265]

The complete score of TMP is quite a juggernaut to get into. as an introduction the OST arrangement is quite useful.

[Faleel 5,350]

TMP complete is childs play compared to the LOTR CR's

[Dixon Hill 4,234]

It's the best of the lot, though.

[#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265]

Yes, its one of the best scores in history. The Enterprise is probably the single best track Goldsmith has ever written. It is completely perfect. Both as a score cue and as a stand alone piece of music

[BloodBoal 7,538]

[Dixon Hill 4,234]

Yes, its one of the best scores in history. The Enterprise is probably the single best track Goldsmith has ever written. It is completely perfect. Both as a score cue and as a stand alone piece of music

Agreed. The score is one of my top ten. Probably top five too.

[Faleel 5,350]

So, #1 A. I.
#2 TMP?

[crocodile 8,017]

It also helps that the film has barely any sound effects, dialogue... or even plot... to compete with Goldsmith.

All albums are great. It's the kind of score that works in any presentation.

Karol

[Dixon Hill 4,234]

So, #1 A. I.

#2 TMP?

Sounds about right! LOTR often hijacks the #1 spot though... as does a certain other recent score!

[Marian Schedenig 8,195]

The "Bird of Prey" theme as you call it, is basically straight from Shostakovich

Don't you mean Stravnsky? Or are we talking about different themes here?

[Faleel 5,350]

FOTR SE

[crocodile 8,017]

The "Bird of Prey" theme as you call it, is basically straight from Shostakovich

Don't you mean Stravnsky? Or are we talking about different themes here?

Yeah, I think he meant Stravinsky's Firebird. In any case, whatever classical influences/connections might be found in Eidelman's score, we know for a fact they're intentional.

Karol

[KK 3,307]

In the beginning, I wasn't all that big a fan of Goldsmith's score. There was too much pomp for me I guess. I've come a long way with it though, and it's a score I enjoy quite a bit. Goldsmith really nailed the sound of the franchise here, and Illia's theme is absolutely sublime.

Goldsmith's TMP is a hard one to get into, I'll give you that. While I do believe it's great score, it's one I have to be in a particular mood to enjoy. It's the not the kind of score that I'd play at any time, any day of the week.

I don't know, my thoughts keep changing. TWOK used to be my favourite, just because I loved the nautical seafaring adventure vibe to it. Now, the main theme doesn't do as much for me however. It's still really good stuff, but I think I prefer TSFS because of that lovely mysticism in the score's sound.

I love both TWOK and TSFS equally and both complete scores have a nice flow without any dull spot, but I agree that the main theme can get a bit grating after a while. You should listen to both more, though!

Ultimately, I don't listen to these scores often though (though I probably should), so I'm not as familiar with them as many of you might be.

Reading the liner notes of each of the scores really helps appreciating them even more. They're all very well documented and give you lots of detail on each cue. They're remarkably well done.

Thanks BB. I'll check 'em out more often, and I don't have all the releases, which I'll have to fix soon.

The "Bird of Prey" theme as you call it, is basically straight from Shostakovich

Don't you mean Stravnsky? Or are we talking about different themes here?

Yeah, I think he meant Stravinsky's Firebird. In any case, whatever classical influences/connections might be found in Eidelman's score, we know for a fact they're intentional.

Karol

Doh!

Not sure why I put Shostakovich....yeah I meant Stravinsky's Firebird naturally...clearly I need some sleep!

[Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488]

I listened to some little-known scores by some guy named John Williams. You might've heard of them, I don't know. Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom, Hook and The Towering Inferno? Twice.

[Unlucky Bastard 7,782]

Those scores are inferior to the sheer, overwhelming brilliance of AI: Artificial Intelligence!

[Dixon Hill 4,234]

You're correct.

[KK 3,307]

Is Williams that hack who just plagiarizes from better classical composers?

[Dixon Hill 4,234]

Yes. Hook is a great example of that. Pilfered flowery crap.

[RedBard 71]

Yes. Hook is a great example of that. Pilfered flowery crap.

That's nothing. Listen to Home Alone.

Afterwards, you'll wonder if Williams actually went to the Tchaikovsky estate and said "I'm gonna rip off everything from ol' Grandpa Peter and call it my own" before flying back and getting to work.

[Hlao-roo 389]

NP: Interstellar (Zimmer)

Will see what happens once the "new score sheen" wears off, but this may be emerging as my favorite score by Zimmer. It's up there with The Thin Red Line.

[Dixon Hill 4,234]

Shame about the monochrome lack of emotional diversity though.

[Hlao-roo 389]

Shame about the monochrome lack of emotional diversity though.

My experience of the score has been much richer than that of others, apparently.

Even if I believed Interstellar to be an emotional monolith, the "variety" argument is an odd one to me, as it would indict several scores I enjoy very much (Williams's Presumed Innocent and Shore's Panic Room come to mind). As important as diversity is in life, I'm not sure that every score need embrace it as an organizing principle to be successful.

If, within the context of the moods and emotions Zimmer is striving to evoke, he is needlessly repeating musical ideas to the point of redundancy and diminishing returns, then we should call him out on that. But it's not clear to me that this is the case.

[Dixon Hill 4,234]

Shame about the monochrome lack of emotional diversity though.

My experience of the score has been much richer than that of others, apparently.

Even if I believed Interstellar to be an emotional monolith, the "variety" argument is an odd one to me, as it would indict several scores I enjoy very much (Williams's Presumed Innocent and Shore's Panic Room come to mind). As important as diversity is in life, I'm not sure that every score need embrace it as an organizing principle to be successful.

If, within the context of the moods and emotions Zimmer is striving to evoke, he is needlessly repeating musical ideas to the point of redundancy and diminishing returns, then we should call him out on that. But it's not clear to me that this is the case.

I... I don't understand. Shouldn't there be something here for me to rail obnoxiously against?

[Incanus 5,715]

I still can't bring myself to relisten Interstellar after the initial listen as that listen did not give me any impetus to explore it further. Can I be cured?

[Dixon Hill 4,234]

It's doubtful. But you have A.I. antibodies strong in your system, so there may be hope for you yet.

[KK 3,307]

You are diseased, behind hope and saving. A swift clean death would be a kindness to you.

[Incanus 5,715]

Thank you doctors for your swift and merciless diagnosis. I shall leave for the Cliff of Despair immediately.

[Dixon Hill 4,234]

Nonsense. Find the Blue Fairy and wish hard.

[Unlucky Bastard 7,782]

You're correct.

You're the bloke who reckons E.T. is boring, aren't you?

[Dixon Hill 4,234]

You're correct.

You're the bloke who reckons E.T. is boring, aren't you?

I might be, or I might pretend to be to vex the likes of you.

[Incanus 5,715]

You're correct.

You're the bloke who reckons E.T. is boring, aren't you?

I might be, or I might pretend to be to vex the likes of you.

You imp you!

[Dixon Hill 4,234]

Hey, I'm a Zimmer fan on JWFan. It's about time there was some retaliation around here! We all know who drew first blood!

[Unlucky Bastard 7,782]

I'm terribly vexed.

[Faleel 5,350]

Not a score but...

[Not Mr. Big 4,639]

I didn't know John Williams wrote Sleigh Ride!

[Hlao-roo 389]

NP: Prospero's Books (Nyman)

[KK 3,307]

Interstellar (FYC) by Hans Zimmer

Great stuff.

[Incanus 5,715]

I didn't know John Williams wrote Sleigh Ride!

He has written everything man. Didn't you know it?

[crocodile 8,017]

Well, everything but his famous tunes. These were done by Angela Morley.

Karol

[Incanus 5,715]

Well, everything but his famous tunes. These were done by Angela Morley.

Karol

True. We have Angela to thank for so many things. Johnny did a tribute album called Angela's Ashes. Perhaps you have heard of it?

[crocodile 8,017]

Yeah, I know it was an adaptation of her last work. Williams didn't compose anything new out of respect.

Karol

[#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265]

Interstellar (FYC) by Hans Zimmer

Great stuff.

Yeah, but dont you think the emotional effect is stiffled by the lack of developmental variation of Zimmers thematic material? And that the relative stagnant nature of the stylistic tone only further lessens the effect of the music on repeated listens?

[BloodBoal 7,538]

Yes.