The Unofficial "Jaws - The Sequels" Thread

[Wojo 2,453]

Well Mr Greg1138 Sir, while I had read somewhere that some in Hollywood wanted to remake movies every 15-20 years, to keep the stories and plots "fresh" for young audiences, I would probably rather see Hedji's idea come to pass...countless Jaws spin-offs and farces...than to tamper with a good thing.

Because to make a new Jaws different enough from the original movie, it would have to do more than cast the iconic characters as different races. It would need to draw from plot threads the first movie omitted: the affair and the Mafia element.

If they're going to put the Mafia into a shark movie, just put Pesci, Liotta, and a few sacrificial blondes into a boat with a sawed-off shotgun and a pistol.

[Ollie 1,059]

Jaws does not need to be remade PERIOD!

This is an awful idea and even worse if Tracy Morgan were to get cast. Hopefully this is nothing but Morgan joking around.

If memory serves me right, the original shot for Ben Gardner's boat had Hooper and Meadows (Carl Gottlieb) discovering it during the day. Not sure if Brody was with them. I know it's in the Jaws Log but I don't have the book.

[JoeinAR 1,949]

Tracy Morgan is one of the most untalented individuals to have ever gather success from SNL.

The IDEA of a Jaws remake is foul beyond all belief.

The reason Jaws worked so well is restraint.

Granted alot of the restraint in the movie was because the mechanical shark failed more than it worked, but in today's movie making environment there is no restraint. Directors and even moreso Producers expect and end result and the craftsman give it to them regardless of plausibility. There is also the gold that Spielberg got and sorry but there isn't a composer working today who could create a score that could even begin to approach the brilliance of Williams Jaws. Im sure there are those who will disagree about that because too many here still treat Jaws as minor stuff

[Ollie 1,059]

Yeah the remake will be filled with a CGI shark, Hans Zimmer will end up scoring it, butchering Williams' music by giving it the RC touch, and the scenes with the shark will be the typical can't hold the camera still for 5 seconds, so we won't be able to make out what's happening on the screen.

[JoeinAR 1,949]

Yeah the remake will be filled with a CGI shark, Hans Zimmer will end up scoring it, butchering Williams' music by giving it the RC touch, and the scenes with the shark will be the typical can't hold the camera still for 5 seconds, so we won't be able to make out what's happening on the screen.

Koray will proclaim HZ music superior to John's score, as will Indy 4 who will proclaim it to be a better movie.

[Charlie Brigden 7]

Speaking of a JAWS Special Edition...

Apparently this link brings up some saucy material, so if you don't want to risk clicking it, just search Google videos for "Jaws Special Edition Robot Chicken".

[Ollie 1,059]

That's probably not too far from the truth.

[Wojo 2,453]

Don't get me wrong, I'm not endorsing a remake of Jaws. I just recognize that my opinion means squat to Hollywood, and all I can do is not pay to see it. There are plenty of putzes who will fund this and then go see it, and ask why it flops.

Hollywood's out of fresh IPs, so revisiting successful ones with a modern twist is a profitable idea. But put the success under a microscope, and they should see that modern techniques would undermine what made those great movies work. As Joey said, Jaws worked because of restraint. The monster didn't work, so concentrating on the characters instead made for a solid movie. Ridley Scott used the same idea for Alien.

If they want to remake a Peter Benchley novel into a new film, why not remake The Island? That sounds like a fun concept for a movie: pirates in the Caribbean persist into the present day and terrorize tourists. Ok, ok, ok, on top of Crichton's last book and the upcoming Pirates 4, it might be too much.

[Ollie 1,059]

A remake of The Island would end up like every Bruckheimer / Bay production.

[Wojo 2,453]

That's not necessarily a bad thing from an investor's point of view.

[Quintus 5,399]

Speaking of a JAWS Special Edition...

On my iPod Touch that link directs me to a mobile streaming porn site. XxxBunker or something.

Yeah the remake will be filled with a CGI shark, Hans Zimmer will end up scoring it, butchering Williams' music by giving it the RC touch, and the scenes with the shark will be the typical can't hold the camera still for 5 seconds, so we won't be able to make out what's happening on the screen.

Koray will proclaim HZ music superior to John's score, as will Indy 4 who will proclaim it to be a better movie.

Ah, but will Koray smell a flop a couple of days into release? He's like a bloodhound that lad!

[JoeinAR 1,949]

Speaking of a JAWS Special Edition...

On my iPod Touch that link directs me to a mobile streaming porn site. XxxBunker or something.

Yeah the remake will be filled with a CGI shark, Hans Zimmer will end up scoring it, butchering Williams' music by giving it the RC touch, and the scenes with the shark will be the typical can't hold the camera still for 5 seconds, so we won't be able to make out what's happening on the screen.

Koray will proclaim HZ music superior to John's score, as will Indy 4 who will proclaim it to be a better movie.

Ah, but will Koray smell a flop a couple of days into release? He's like a bloodhound that lad!

but in that case I'd hope he'd be right.

[Ollie 1,059]

Speaking of a JAWS Special Edition...

Be careful clicking on that. The link I went to had the video but it was loaded with Adult Friend Finder ads.

[Quintus 5,399]

Indeed, I was greeted by some anal workout imagery. I thought Charlie had gone postal on us for a moment.

[Charlie Brigden 7]

Apologies, I didn't get any of that. Will edit the original post.

[Greg1138 3]

There is also the gold that Spielberg got and sorry but there isn't a composer working today who could create a score that could even begin to approach the brilliance of Williams Jaws. Im sure there are those who will disagree about that because too many here still treat Jaws as minor stuff

I couldn't agree more. How such an important and quite, quite brilliant score such as this could ever be thought of in such low terms is completely beyond me.

Yeah the remake will be filled with a CGI shark, Hans Zimmer will end up scoring it, butchering Williams' music by giving it the RC touch, and the scenes with the shark will be the typical can't hold the camera still for 5 seconds, so we won't be able to make out what's happening on the screen.

There are moments.....mere moments, mind you......in Deep Blue Sea where the sharks actually look convincing. It's a big shame that they look so completely shit the rest of the time, mind you....

As Joey said, Jaws worked because of restraint. The monster didn't work, so concentrating on the characters instead made for a solid movie. Ridley Scott used the same idea for Alien.

There are a dozen more films I could name that have the same connection....at the time of writing this, I am cooking but also at a convenient interval point of watching the original....the scene in Quint's "shack" is so, so brilliantly done - it actually almost makes the viewer apprehensive of making the journey with those 3 for fear of what's in store....beautifully and cleverly acted and crafted.

Remake? Vomit.

[Wojo 2,453]

Pink Floyd wrote better music than the vast majority of film composers ever did.

A very valid point, especially because you can add "film scoring" to their list of accomplishments. The Committee, More, Zabriskie Point, and La Vallée, and of course 1982's Pink Floyd The Wall.

[Andy 4,128]

Sequel, dammit! Not remake! Keep it fresh, but leave the original alone. Sheesh. I should run Hollywood.

[Bryant Burnette 654]

Ehhh, remake, sequel, ripoff, spoof, whatever ... it's likely to be garbage no matter what. Personally, I don't fear a remake of a treasured movie like Jaws, because let's face it, one of two things is going to happen: (1) it's going to be as good as the original, or (2) it's not going to be as good as the original.

In the extremely unlikely possibility that a remake was as good as the original, well, my allegiance to the Spielberg movie isn't going to keep me from loving the new version. Because if you can top or equal that movie, brother, you've got me for life.

And in the much more likely event that it isn't as good as the original, well, so what? It's not like they're putting the original in the vault; it won't hurt the Spielberg film at all.

I hope it never gets remade, but if it does, it's no skin off my nose.

[Quintus 5,399]

Pretty much the same here. A part of me would even like to see a stupid remake, just for the sheer novelty value of the thing. Either way the original will always be untouchable.

I would really only take issue with anyone who thinks it will be a good idea to update the original with cgi and re-inserted scenes. A special edition.

[Wojo 2,453]

Bryant Burnette's explanation of remakes is something I can agree with too.

And you know what? Even if SS wanted to CGI update the shark, and replace Brody's pistol with a tranq dart to tag the shark instead, and all the scary violent scenes are replaced with happy ones, I wouldn't care. I've got the DVD at home on the shelf safe and sound. Until the Hollywood Mafia knocks on the door and demands I surrender the DVD, they can do what they want. They're going to anyways.

The whole idea is dumb-dumb, dumb-dumb, dumb-dumb, dumb-dumb...

[Greg1138 3]

Even if SS wanted to CGI update the shark, and replace Brody's pistol with a tranq dart to tag the shark instead

.....that's something that did actually occur to me when rumours of a CGI-enhanced version of Jaws started in the wake of the ET special edition.

[Quintus 5,399]

In absolutely NO circmumstances should cgi EVER be added to Jaws. If Spielberg ever did it I'd turn my back on him. I'm getting annoyed just thinking about it.

[Wojo 2,453]

People probably said the same thing about E.T. I've only seen four Spielberg movies since Jurassic Park, and I didn't excessively enjoy any of them. I have already unofficially turned my back.

[Ollie 1,059]

Well like you said, the original is on DVD, so if they truly want to remake it they will.

[Quintus 5,399]

The special edition of ET is horrible, I avoid it. The cg ET work is nearly as bad as Jar Jar Binks.

It bugs the hell out of me that it has become the version which airs on tv.

[Wojo 2,453]

The only E.T. I have is the VHS from 1985 or whenever, and that's good enough for me. I never watch it.

[Ollie 1,059]

I'll give Spielberg credit, at least he had the decency to include the original version on the DVD set.

[Quintus 5,399]

I'll give Spielberg credit, at least he had the decency to include the original version on the DVD set.

Remind me, does that have 5.1 audio?

[Ollie 1,059]

I'll give Spielberg credit, at least he had the decency to include the original version on the DVD set.

Remind me, does that have 5.1 audio?

I believe so. The 2 disc set did.

I have the deluxe 3 disc set but it's been ages since I've watched the film.

[Greg1138 3]

I believe the UK 3-DVD set has 5.1 audio for the Special Edition, but is stereo for the original version.

[Quintus 5,399]

I believe the UK 3-DVD set has 5.1 audio for the Special Edition, but is stereo for the original version.

Thanks, that's what I thought. I seem to remember that they treated the original cut with the same disdain which Lucas handled his SW theatricals with.

[Greg1138 3]

Partly....if I remember rightly it is at least anamorphic though....

[Ollie 1,059]

And it wasn't included as a "special feature" taking the laser disc version and slapping it on there.

But did they issue a UK 2 disc set? Because as I mentioned, the 2 disc set here has the original film in 5.1.

[Greg1138 3]

Yes there was also a 2-Disc set, but it was the forst 2 discs of the 3-DVD set i.e. the Special Edition and a (admittedly healthy) pile of bonus features - no original version of the movie. As far as I know, the only way to own the original version is to shell out for the 3-DVD set.

[Bryant Burnette 654]

I'm a little surprised Universal hasn't done a big box with all four movies, a la the Alien Quadrilogy set. If they included some decent new special features pertinent to the first movie, I'd probably even buy it, so's to have it on my shelf.

[Greg1138 3]

In the UK there is a box-set of the 3 sequels - at the time I purchased it, it was cheaper to buy the box than one of the seqeuls individually....which is how I ended up with the dubious honour of owning Jaws: The Revenge.

[MikeH 768]

Is this the only major franchise that has not received a sequel/prequel/remake in the past 20+ years?  Not that I nor anyone else is clamoring for another sequel, I just find it strange that Hollywood has milked every other property to death but the Jaws franchise is curiously dormant.

 

Sure, Jaws The Revenge was a flop, but that never stopped studios in the past (Halloween 6, Psycho IV, Battle for the Planet of the Apes, Exorcist II, Omen III/IV, etc.).  Does Spielberg have a ‘never again’ clause with Universal? 

[crocodile 8,013]

I think he must have some say in this. But once he passes away... who knows...

 

While all the subsequent Jaws films were mild to major disasters, the accompanying scores are actually all at least good. I enjoy them all.

 

Karol

[MikeH 768]

Yes, I love the scores!  I actually prefer the promo version of Revenge to the Intrada, mainly because of the way certain cues are combined. Same reason why I enjoy JW’s original LP sequence of Jaws 2...it’s beautifully sequenced and might be my favorite album arrangment of all time. I was surprised by how uninvolved I felt listening to the C&C release. 

[Faleel 5,349]

Wait for the Jaws/JP crossover: @Jurassic Shark with score by Giacchino.

[Kasey Kockroach 2,344]

I honestly find Jaws 2 the least fun of the sequels. It's the only one naively convinced it can measure up to the original in any way, combined with it being too 'competent' to be particularly funny.

Jaws 3D is my favorite because Lea Thompson is yummy. Love the score too.

[John 2,032]

I can definitely see a Jaws reboot (either a direct remake of the original film or a sequel) occurring in the next 15 years or so, maybe sooner.

[MikeH 768]

When directly comparing them to the original, of course the sequels will always be found wanting. And while there are some serious, nearly insurmountable issues with Jaws The Revenge, I don’t think it sinks the franchise any worse than some of the low-points in other film series.

 

The opening is good, and I’m always surprised that the scene where Ellen takes to the sea after the banana boat attack gets to me dramatically (admittedly this is 90% due to Michael Small’s music).  Yes it’s all wacky, yes it’s freaking Jaws The Revenge, but I think there are definitely worse films out there. 

 

 Maybe Steven feels more protective over the original film than something like Indy or Jurassic Park. Like I said, it’s not like I want another film in the series, I just think it strange that it’s remained untouched since 1987.  

[Jurassic Shark 12,076]

24 minutes ago, Fal said:

Wait for the Jaws/JP crossover: @Jurassic Shark with score by Giacchino.

 

NOOOOO!

[MikeH 768]

16 minutes ago, kaseykockroach said:

I honestly find Jaws 2 the least fun of the sequels. It's the only one naively convinced it can measure up to the original in any way, combined with it being too 'competent' to be particularly funny.

Jaws 3D is my favorite because Lea Thompson is yummy. Love the score too.

 

There’s a lot of interesting parallels between the making of Jaws 2 and Damien: Omen II. 1978. Both troubled productions that fired their directors for similar reasons, originally conceptualized as more psychological/cerebral than outright horror, and eventually hiring directors considered to be more of the journeymen variety who ultimately delivered what the studios wanted. 

 

While I do like both films, my favorite shots in each were leftovers from the original directors: the fin in the harbor at dusk, and Damien’s entrance framed in fire at the Thorn estate. 

[Nick1Ø66 4,716]

I still want Spielberg to make his Indianapolis film, about a young Quint and his friend Herbie Robinson (baseball player & Boson's mate). Bookend the movie with Quint's speech on the Orca, ala Rose in Titanic. It won't happen, but it should.

 

I think someone made a low budget version of the Indianapolis story a year or two ago, but I couldn't even get through the trailer.

[Disco Stu 15,495]

Isn't there a new shark thriller coming out later this summer?

EDIT:

 

Yes it's called The Meg.  Has more of a sci-fi-ish bent.

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Meg

[Unlucky Bastard 7,782]

A Jaws remake would be great! You could have Zac Efron as Brody, The Rock as Quint, and Hooper would need to be a woman, maybe Alexandra Daddario. Make it a real modern R-rated stoner comedy.

[Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488]

Aubrey Plaza?