#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted January 19, 2015 Share Posted January 19, 2015 Agreed. It might work as a kickstarter fundraiser, but it's better to set a few precedents first.There is this misguided idea amongst some fans like Thor that re-recording a score like Moonraker, which has a potential bigger audience automatically means a that smaller, niche doesn't get financed.Often it takes the money made from successful, big titles like Conan, Moonraker etc to make recordings and releases of scores that will not be massive sellers possible. And Fitzpatrick has certainly shown that he is willing to invest in re-recordings of more obscure works like Mr. Moses or The Salamander. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wojo 2,453 Posted January 19, 2015 Share Posted January 19, 2015 But should they re-record the entire Dracula score, or only the material that was selected for the original album, seeing as how that is the only music we should ever have been permitted to hear outside of the film because it allows such a fantastic listening experience? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted January 19, 2015 Share Posted January 19, 2015 Obviously the entire score should be re-recorded.Question for Thor.If Tadlow was ever to do a re-recording of Story Of A Woman, should they just record the highlights, arranged in a best listening experience, or the entire score as written for the film? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wojo 2,453 Posted January 19, 2015 Share Posted January 19, 2015 Did Story of a Woman ever get a soundtrack release? If not, who's going to ask JW what the highlights are? Because anybody else's selected highlights would just be a guess, and nobody should have that kind of responsibility, it's too hard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted January 19, 2015 Share Posted January 19, 2015 Obviously the entire score should be re-recorded.Question for Thor.If Tadlow was ever to do a re-recording of Story Of A Woman, should they just record the highlights, arranged in a best listening experience, or the entire score as written for the film?They should re-record the entire score, but microedit and arrange it on the CD. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeH 768 Posted January 19, 2015 Share Posted January 19, 2015 James just replied:This "good source" now says they might have been mistaken ... and that still only Mono elements have been found..... apologies for getting people excited ... but that i s why I decided against re-recording Dracula...now "who knows" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted January 19, 2015 Share Posted January 19, 2015 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted January 19, 2015 Share Posted January 19, 2015 Who nose? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted January 19, 2015 Share Posted January 19, 2015 Indeed! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,715 Posted January 19, 2015 Share Posted January 19, 2015 GET RE-RECORDING JAMES! PRONTO! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted January 19, 2015 Share Posted January 19, 2015 Moonraker first! We already payed for that! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted January 19, 2015 Share Posted January 19, 2015 ACTIVATE RE-RECORDING PROTOCOL! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,715 Posted January 19, 2015 Share Posted January 19, 2015 Recording sessions you will commence. Your destiny it is. Record you John Williams's Dracula will James Fitzpatrick. Record or record not. There is no try. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ymenard 54 Posted January 19, 2015 Share Posted January 19, 2015 Reminds me of the Superman rerecording fiasco... It's still a good recording for some tracks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,631 Posted January 19, 2015 Share Posted January 19, 2015 Retitle this thread:The Thread of False Hopes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,715 Posted January 19, 2015 Share Posted January 19, 2015 We had a momentary JW music rush of hope though. Totally worth it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted January 19, 2015 Share Posted January 19, 2015 Only to be let down yet again!JWFan is as depressing as the view from my bedroom. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nightscape94 965 Posted January 19, 2015 Share Posted January 19, 2015 A good re-recording would probably be preferable anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Omen II 1,235 Posted January 19, 2015 Share Posted January 19, 2015 For the last few days I've been singing, "Dracula is coming! Dracula is coming!" to the tune of "Holidays are coming" from the Coca Cola Christmas ads and now I've got to stop. It's not fair! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
filmmusic 1,829 Posted January 19, 2015 Share Posted January 19, 2015 Only to be let down yet again!JWFan is as depressing as the view from my bedroom.Oh, I love this kind of weather. Rainy, misty, bare trees... It's so cinematic..(on the contrary I don't like sunny! ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted January 19, 2015 Share Posted January 19, 2015 I'm starting to fucking hate it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Skywalker 1,795 Posted January 19, 2015 Share Posted January 19, 2015 oh, bad news... well at least htere is still interest in re-recording it... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy 4,130 Posted January 19, 2015 Share Posted January 19, 2015 I am crestfallen. I hate re-recordings. No way to capture that vintage LSO sound under Williams' baton. A re-recording would just be a reminder of what could've been.Grrr.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted January 20, 2015 Share Posted January 20, 2015 Use vintage recording equipment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KK 3,307 Posted January 20, 2015 Share Posted January 20, 2015 I'm starting to fucking hate it!That's not very English of you! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted January 20, 2015 Share Posted January 20, 2015 Being a negative and pessimistic piss-ass is very very English actually. Ask Lee!Having tea right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marian Schedenig 8,193 Posted January 20, 2015 Share Posted January 20, 2015 Moonraker first! We already payed for that! No we didn't. The Kickstarter is still running. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted January 20, 2015 Share Posted January 20, 2015 The 25000 pound goal has been reached! Gruesome Son of a Bitch 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted January 20, 2015 Share Posted January 20, 2015 First Rule of Acquisition: once you have their money, never give it back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,715 Posted January 20, 2015 Share Posted January 20, 2015 I am crestfallen. I hate re-recordings. No way to capture that vintage LSO sound under Williams' baton. A re-recording would just be a reminder of what could've been.Grrr..Do you love original mono recordings more? I would not say no to such a release but a good stereo re-recording would be very welcome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KK 3,307 Posted January 20, 2015 Share Posted January 20, 2015 Being a negative and pessimistic piss-ass is very very English actually. Ask Lee!Having tea right now.You're supposed to love cloudy and rainy weather and grim days! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted January 20, 2015 Share Posted January 20, 2015 I love cloudy and rainy days. They're more realistic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted January 20, 2015 Share Posted January 20, 2015 And relatable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted January 20, 2015 Share Posted January 20, 2015 Being a negative and pessimistic piss-ass is very very English actually. Ask Lee!Having tea right now.You're supposed to love cloudy and rainy weather and grim days!Why on earth would i love that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy 4,130 Posted January 20, 2015 Share Posted January 20, 2015 I am crestfallen. I hate re-recordings. No way to capture that vintage LSO sound under Williams' baton. A re-recording would just be a reminder of what could've been.Grrr..Do you love original mono recordings more? I would not say no to such a release but a good stereo re-recording would be very welcome.I would take the mono recordings over a re-recording, yes. I'd get the re-recording if nothing else was available, but there's magic in that original magnetic tape. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted January 20, 2015 Share Posted January 20, 2015 BullshitThere are good re-recordings and bad ones. To state outright that you hate all re-recordings is nonsensical. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted January 20, 2015 Share Posted January 20, 2015 I love Elmer's re-recordings of Benny's scores. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wojo 2,453 Posted January 20, 2015 Share Posted January 20, 2015 Bullshit There are good re-recordings and bad ones. To state outright that you hate all re-recordings is nonsensical.OK... There are good video games and bad video games. To state outright that you hate all video games is nonsensical. Let hedji have his own harmless opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted January 20, 2015 Share Posted January 20, 2015 His opinion harms me. I have been harmed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted January 20, 2015 Share Posted January 20, 2015 OK...There are good video games and bad video games. To state outright that you hate all video games is nonsensical.Thankfully I have never stated that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marian Schedenig 8,193 Posted January 20, 2015 Share Posted January 20, 2015 The 25000 pound goal has been reached! Excellent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted January 20, 2015 Share Posted January 20, 2015 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy 4,130 Posted January 21, 2015 Share Posted January 21, 2015 I am trying to think of a re recording I liked better than the original.Still thinking.Well, I guess the Bride of Frankenstein one is pretty good. Goldsmith's own Patton album rerecording is better than the film version. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wojo 2,453 Posted January 21, 2015 Share Posted January 21, 2015 El Cid. Joe Brausam 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,631 Posted January 21, 2015 Share Posted January 21, 2015 Goldsmith's own Patton album rerecording is better than the film version.No wayEl Cid.yes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted January 21, 2015 Share Posted January 21, 2015 Williams' re-recording of Star Trek: The Motion Picture theme is clearly the superior version. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,631 Posted January 21, 2015 Share Posted January 21, 2015 I don't hate it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted January 21, 2015 Share Posted January 21, 2015 You gotta be joking? Gruesome Son of a Bitch 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted January 21, 2015 Share Posted January 21, 2015 The City of Prague's rendition of Hook trumps the original! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TownerFan 4,983 Posted January 21, 2015 Share Posted January 21, 2015 Film music is peculiar in this sense, as the "definitive" performance is usually the one made for the film, even when it contains flubs and errors and when it's not necessarily the most "musical" performance in terms of interpretation. For example, Bernard Herrmann hated to conduct in sync with the picture, as he felt it robbed the music from a more organic ebb and flow (that's why he slowed down the pace in several of his own re-recordings).Anyway, in the case of Dracula, I too think it's downright impossible to recapture the power and lush romanticism of the original LSO recording conducted by JW. Anyway, as I said in the other thread, don't get your hopes too high about a Dracula re-recording in the near future. It won't be an easy feat to pull off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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