JacksonElmore 69 Posted July 18, 2016 Share Posted July 18, 2016 I can't wait to hear what he creates for the first order/ our main characters. I suspect Finn will have a more recognizable theme and same with po and maybe snoke? I wonder how he will deal musically with Rey/Luke scenes, besides Rey's theme/ the force theme. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pieter Boelen 740 Posted July 18, 2016 Share Posted July 18, 2016 4 hours ago, JacksonElmore said: Or he's just setting stems for bigger ideas in the next few films. Like in a new hope, Vader had a very minor theme, and in esb he had a bigger one. I sense that the little themes for po and Finn and Kylo will all grow into bigger themes. As the characters develop, they will musically as well. I hope. I'd certainly be game for that! But Vader's Theme from A New Hope did not really evolve musically into the Imperial March, did it? The March seems more like a complete replacement theme, as if Williams had a better idea for the sequel. JacksonElmore 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Datameister 2,043 Posted July 18, 2016 Share Posted July 18, 2016 Yeah, there's no real musical connection between that initial Imperial motif and the actual Imperial March. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faleel 5,348 Posted July 18, 2016 Share Posted July 18, 2016 The closest thing to the IM is that Timpani and low register strings bit in Wookie Prisoner Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JacksonElmore 69 Posted July 18, 2016 Share Posted July 18, 2016 As long as we're talking about very motif's heard in tfa, does anyone else hear the similarity here? The Rathtars! (0:34-0:39) On The Inside (0:05-0:09, 0:10-0:14, 0:14-0:16) On a side note, it reminds me of Giacchino's material for LOST 5 hours ago, Pieter_Boelen said: But Vader's Theme from A New Hope did not really evolve musically into the Imperial March, did it? The March seems more like a complete replacement theme, as if Williams had a better idea for the sequel. Hopefully same thing happens with Kylo ren's theme lol. But yeah, you're right I like Kylo's theme a lot, but wouldn't mind if it were temporary Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will 2,215 Posted July 18, 2016 Share Posted July 18, 2016 @JacksonElmore I don't think that melody is a motif. Just a coincidental similarity. It's not the only one in the score. JacksonElmore 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smeltington 1,440 Posted July 19, 2016 Share Posted July 19, 2016 Was there ever a thread with a list of all known themes from TFA? I thought there was one, but haven't been able to find it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will 2,215 Posted July 19, 2016 Share Posted July 19, 2016 58 minutes ago, Smeltington said: Was there ever a thread with a list of all known themes from TFA? I thought there was one, but haven't been able to find it. I don't think so. @Jay, do you remember such a thread? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,364 Posted July 19, 2016 Author Share Posted July 19, 2016 http://www.jwfan.com/forums/index.php?/topic/25879-the-thematic-material-of-the-star-wars-saga-possible-community-project/ Smeltington 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pieter Boelen 740 Posted July 19, 2016 Share Posted July 19, 2016 On the subject of the Imperial March in A New Hope, I've always thought that that the music when Obi Wan is revealed sounded a bit like the opening of the March. Likewise when Luke was revealed in The Force Awakens. Am I just hearing things or us there indeed some similarity? If so, could it be in any way intentional? Does it mean anything? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
artguy360 1,843 Posted July 19, 2016 Share Posted July 19, 2016 1 hour ago, Pieter_Boelen said: On the subject of the Imperial March in A New Hope, I've always thought that that the music when Obi Wan is revealed sounded a bit like the opening of the March. Likewise when Luke was revealed in The Force Awakens. Am I just hearing things or us there indeed some similarity? If so, could it be in any way intentional? Does it mean anything? To my mind there is nothing in ANH that sounds like the Imperial March outside of possible coincidence. JW wasn't even thinking about the Imperial March when he scored ANH, Instead the film has 1 short motif for the Empire/Death Star and I think a separate short motif for stormtroopers. In TFA the similarities to the Imperial March when Luke is revealed is, I think, purposeful because JW wanted Luke's reveal to be mysterious and ambiguous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JacksonElmore 69 Posted July 19, 2016 Share Posted July 19, 2016 9 hours ago, Pieter_Boelen said: On the subject of the Imperial March in A New Hope, I've always thought that that the music when Obi Wan is revealed sounded a bit like the opening of the March. Likewise when Luke was revealed in The Force Awakens. Am I just hearing things or us there indeed some similarity? If so, could it be in any way intentional? Does it mean anything? Don't think it means anything but I hear it in the ob1 case, not tfa tho. I mostly hear the imperial march similarities in anh at the beginning of imperial attack 16 hours ago, Will said: @JacksonElmore I don't think that melody is a motif. Just a coincidental similarity. It's not the only one in the score. I don't think it is either, I meant to say "very minor possible motifs" (based on the B Theme for the first order you uncovered) but i guess I didn't type it out lol. Oh well. I was just noting the similarity Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pieter Boelen 740 Posted July 19, 2016 Share Posted July 19, 2016 For reference, the "similar to the Imperial March" statements I am referring to are in: A New Hope, "Landspeeder Search, Attack of the Sand People" at 02:40 The Force Awakens, " The Jedi Steps and Finale " at 00:58 Both sound to me like they're almost ready to go into the Imperial March. But for sure they aren't actually the March. I'm just reminded of it in those spots. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Manakin Skywalker 4,894 Posted July 20, 2016 Popular Post Share Posted July 20, 2016 Luke's intro section of "The Jedi Steps" is basically just a sped-up/slightly rearranged version of the alternate "Binary Sunset" take. Comparison Rescored Not Mr. Big, crumbs, aviazn and 3 others 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Jay 37,364 Posted July 20, 2016 Author Popular Post Share Posted July 20, 2016 Love the helicopter at the end Manakin Skywalker, crumbs, Chewy and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post LongTimeJWFan 11 Posted August 30, 2016 Popular Post Share Posted August 30, 2016 On July 11, 2016 at 5:55 PM, JacksonElmore said: Wow, that looks like a lot of work! Any idea on when it will be done? I'm finally done with the first passthrough, but am going back to work on Jabba Flow. Those descants are still missing so I'm thinking of dusting off the Neumann and recording them myself... You close enough to San Francisco to stop by for a screening? We could even do an isolated score double feature (A New Hope or Empire). Cerebral Cortex, Will and JacksonElmore 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JacksonElmore 69 Posted August 30, 2016 Share Posted August 30, 2016 1 hour ago, LongTimeJWFan said: I'm finally done with the first passthrough, but am going back to work on Jabba Flow. Those descants are still missing so I'm thinking of dusting off the Neumann and recording them myself... You close enough to San Francisco to stop by for a screening? We could even do an isolated score double feature (A New Hope or Empire). jesus that would be awesome. Unfortunately i live in Boston. But when you are done with the isolated score, are u going to share it? I would love to listen to your hard work Will 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Will 2,215 Posted September 1, 2016 Popular Post Share Posted September 1, 2016 I have done a score restoration for the parade grounds scene from TFA (Hux's speech before the firing of the Starkiller). I'd like to explain some things about that scene, although I will post the score restoration at the top of this post in case anyone doesn't feel like reading through it all for whatever reason: https://www.dropbox.com/s/jiql72jh7bppy3g/TFA - Parade Grounds (Score Restore).mp4?dl=0. In the final film, the scene largely goes unscored. After "Maz's Counsel" ends, however, we do immediately hear a few seconds of very low strings. After that ends (right before Hux says "At this very moment") there is no music until "The Starkiller" begins, when the weapon actually fires. The string bit may be tracked or it may be intended for that scene (if so, it could be a short cue but could also be the beginning of a longer cue that was dialed out). Who knows. Here's the scene exactly as presented in the final film: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MPhHl2DpD4E In any case, what I want to focus on is the masterpiece of a cue that @Fennel Ka discovered in the Blu-ray documentaries and that I'm 100% certain Williams composed for the parade grounds scene. It went completely unused in the final film. Listen to the complete cue, courtesy of Fennel Ka, here: https://drive.google.com/file/d/0BxQSwI5aPja9MWZLV1p2anN0RVE/view Now, it's clear that the above complete cue is too long to fit the scene as seen in the final film. There must have been some shots that were cut after Williams scored them. However, in the Secrets of TFA doc Fennel Ka found a microedited version of this cue, which can be heard from :00-:54 here: https://drive.google.com/file/d/0BxQSwI5aPja9NXlLWWQxRVQ0WGs/view (the music after :54 there is a different cue, an alternate for Han's death). This microedited version (there's a chunk near the end missing as compared to the complete version) lines up perfectly to the parade grounds scene in the final film, so clearly the cue was microedited by the filmmakers to fit the film with the intent of placing it into the film, although they of course decided not to (I had previously thought that perhaps the microedited version was made specifically for the doc but I now realize it was definitely for the film itself). I was able to figure out where that microedited version would fit in the final film and I added it to the final film scene accordingly. Here's my score restore, again: https://www.dropbox.com/s/jiql72jh7bppy3g/TFA - Parade Grounds (Score Restore).mp4?dl=0 While the silence heard in the final film over most of the speech certainly has its positives, I can't help but wonder whether Williams' epic cue would have added some much-needed weight to the scene. To the average fan, the New Republic meant essentially nothing, so the scene lacked the emotional punch you might expect when the bad guys are about to blow up multiple planets. Certainly, I think at the very least the usage of this cue in the film would have improved opinion of the score. I've seen some complain that the score wasn't as "big and epic" as the prequels, and it can't have helped that two extremely big and epic cues (this and the Force theme Han's death alternate) have never been heard by the general public and possibly not even by many JWFanners. If either of those cues had been in the film and been on the OST or FYC, they would have garnered much discussion, I think. If they had been in the film and not been released on the OST or FYC, they probably would have become Williams grails. But it was not to be. Now, lastly, as I mentioned earlier, there must have been some footage cut from the parade grounds sequence because the complete cue had to be microedited by the filmmakers to fit the final scene. I've done a lot of analysis and I'm pretty sure that the music edited out to create the shorter version was supposed to have played during deleted footage starting at :48 in my score restore video. I could have spliced in a few seconds of black screen there to symbolize the missing shots and just let the cue play out in complete form, but I decided to just go with the microedited version so the film plays smoothly. Thanks again to Fennel Ka for doing a lot of the hard work to make this score restore possible. My editing skills aren't too professional but I hope you don't mind. I hope my work helps others better appreciate this cue! Muad'Dib, Jay, JacksonElmore and 7 others 9 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post crumbs 14,316 Posted September 2, 2016 Popular Post Share Posted September 2, 2016 You've nailed it Will, that's gotta be it! I'm torn about this one. It's a fantastic cue, and it elevates the scene, but I can also see why it was cut. The tonal shift between this and The Starkiller is jarring (I'm assuming the original cut had more shots between cues, giving the music some breathing space). I'm also certain the crew probably went, "that music is distracting from Hux's speech," which I sort of agree with. The problem is you can't easily re-orchestrate the cue without neutering its power, but burying it in the mix and letting the dialogue take precedence wouldn't be ideal either. Upon first viewing of TFA, that speech was a total WTF moment for me; we never had context of the New Republic, their relationship with the Resistance or the First Order's role in the galaxy (except they're bad guys). The music definitely reiterates they're about to do something very bad, but perhaps sandwiching it between the rousing, emotional climax of Maz & Rey and The Starkiller just didn't work once they tightened the edit. It's an amazing piece of music though. As you pointed out, it's the exact type of instantly memorable cue a lot of fans lamented the score was lacking (and an obvious instance where JJ clearly told JW to just "go for it" and forget about the dialogue). Cerebral Cortex, Will and LongTimeJWFan 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post igger6 894 Posted September 2, 2016 Popular Post Share Posted September 2, 2016 Holy mackerel! Great work, Fennel Ka and Will! The coolest part of this discovery in my book is that it's a slam-dunk confirmation of that "daaaaah-duh DAAAAAAAH-duh....daaaaah-duh DAAAAAAAH-duh DAAAAAAAAH-duh daaah" motif—the one that closes out track 1 on the OST—as a theme for the First Order. It blows my mind that there's an entire thematic identity reduced a single appearance in the film and on the OST. Does this show up elsewhere that I'm not aware of? Sometimes I think we don't really know this score at all, especially with the hour or whatever of alternates that apparently exist. Remember: tons of great TESB music (like the Echo Base reveal or the snowspeeders taking off) isn't technically a part of the film or the OST. Heck, Jabba's Theme is barely on the ROTJ album. The only reason I consider that music a part of the fabric of that film is because of my exposure to it in video games and on the Special Edition albums. If I'd been around in 1980, I wouldn't even know it existed. How much else might there be like that out there for TFA? And since Abrams' editing was so much more indecisive and iterative than Kershner's, and Williams' scoring so protracted, in how many versions might this stuff exist? I'm sure we've already seen the best of it, but still, the mind boggles. I have a feeling the Ultimate Edition of the TFA soundtrack is going to be a 4-disc set. Five if you count the inevitable DVD of Anthony Daniels introducing concert suites accompanied by PowerPoint slide shows of book cover art. UPDATE: Aaaaand, I see that Will was on this idea in June. Anyway, I stand behind my second two paragraphs. B-) LongTimeJWFan, Will and Cerebral Cortex 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crumbs 14,316 Posted September 2, 2016 Share Posted September 2, 2016 It's certainly the clearest indication yet this is another motif for the First Order, along with that ascending brass statement (heard most clearly after the opening crawl and preceding the first scene with Snoke but barely audible, see below). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,364 Posted September 2, 2016 Author Share Posted September 2, 2016 I finally had a chance to watch your score restore video, @Will. Great work! I actually think it could have worked quite well to have left that cue in the movie! (Though mixed a little lower so you can hear all his dialogue, of course). Thanks for doing this! Will 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will 2,215 Posted September 2, 2016 Share Posted September 2, 2016 17 hours ago, igger6 said: UPDATE: Aaaaand, I see that Will was on this idea in June. Anyway, I stand behind my second two paragraphs. B-) You're late to the party ... but still welcome. 8 hours ago, Jay said: Thanks for doing this! My pleasure. ------- I have one correction to my long post explaining the parade grounds scene and score: The Drive file that I said contained the complete cue is not in fact complete. Here is the Drive file that Fennel Ka thinks is complete: https://drive.google.com/file/d/0BxQSwI5aPja9M25DdDFScmQzOTQ/view?usp=sharing. It's about 5 seconds longer than the "complete" (not actually complete) one I had posted before. (You may need to convert this Drive file to another format to listen to it; I had to do so.) As of this time I still think the extra music that's in the complete version but not the microedited one (the one I used in my video) was simply intended for a group of since-cut shots that would fit in at :48 in my video -- which would mean that each moment of the microedited cue lines up with the film exactly where JW had intended. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon McBride 113 Posted September 2, 2016 Share Posted September 2, 2016 Incredible @Will. That's amazing. I definitely don't have that much dedication. Will 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will 2,215 Posted September 2, 2016 Share Posted September 2, 2016 17 hours ago, igger6 said: Holy mackerel! Great work, Fennel Ka and Will! The coolest part of this discovery in my book is that it's a slam-dunk confirmation of that "daaaaah-duh DAAAAAAAH-duh....daaaaah-duh DAAAAAAAH-duh DAAAAAAAAH-duh daaah" motif—the one that closes out track 1 on the OST—as a theme for the First Order. It blows my mind that there's an entire thematic identity reduced a single appearance in the film and on the OST. Does this show up elsewhere that I'm not aware of? Yes, there's that first statement as the First Order returns to the Star Destroyer after the opening battle ("Kill Them All"), there's a subtle one as Finn and Poe look up at the TIE fighter as they prepare to make their escape ("I Can Fly Anything"), obviously it's in the parade grounds cue, and then there's another statement early in "The Bombing Run" as the Resistance fighters prepare to come out of lightspeed and attack Starkiller Base. Oh, and there's a statement in "Finn and Poe, United" at the end when Finn is telling Leia that Rey's been taken prisoner. This statement is heard right after she commends him for renouncing the Order and right before she says they need intel on Starkiller and Finn says that's where Rey was taken. Actually, some think it's a theme for Starkiller Base, but I disagree. I think it's for the First Order in general. Speaking of First Order themes, you and @crumbs might be interested in these older posts of mine: In which I discuss what I believe to probably be the First Order B theme. This theme is heard along with the main First Order theme in the parade grounds cue. @igger6 Quote Sometimes I think we don't really know this score at all, especially with the hour or whatever of alternates that apparently exist. Remember: tons of great TESB music (like the Echo Base reveal or the snowspeeders taking off) isn't technically a part of the film or the OST. Heck, Jabba's Theme is barely on the ROTJ album. The only reason I consider that music a part of the fabric of that film is because of my exposure to it in video games and on the Special Edition albums. If I'd been around in 1980, I wouldn't even know it existed. How much else might there be like that out there for TFA? And since Abrams' editing was so much more indecisive and iterative than Kershner's, and Williams' scoring so protracted, in how many versions might this stuff exist? I'm sure we've already seen the best of it, but still, the mind boggles. Oh yes. In the case of the First Order main theme (the one heard near the end of the first OST track) there could well have been more statements recorded that we haven't heard yet. Maybe there are some in Williams' sketches that were never recorded. Who knows. I wonder if maybe this theme was supposed to have a bigger role but they went another direction. 15 hours ago, crumbs said: It's certainly the clearest indication yet this is another motif for the First Order, along with that ascending brass statement (heard most clearly after the opening crawl and preceding the first scene with Snoke but barely audible, see below). I've always thought those little ascending brass statements were all just coincidentally similar -- due more to Williams' general sense of how to write "bad guy music" rather than any purposeful thematic connection. But who knows, maybe it's a little "First Order ships" motif. There's actually another similar brass bit, aside from the two you mentioned, as the TIE fighters return to the Star Destroyer right after Rey meets BB-8 and they walk off towards the horizon. 3 hours ago, Hawmy said: Incredible @Will. That's amazing. I definitely don't have that much dedication. More of an unhealthy obsession than healthy dedication. I have too much time on my hands before school starts Tuesday. JacksonElmore and igger6 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faleel 5,348 Posted September 2, 2016 Share Posted September 2, 2016 Hey Will, could you do a video with those brass notes from the FYC version of Kill them All placed over the beginning of Finn Vs. Kylo? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,715 Posted September 2, 2016 Share Posted September 2, 2016 I admire your dedication in parsing this stuff guys! This thread has been fascinating to read. Will 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will 2,215 Posted September 2, 2016 Share Posted September 2, 2016 5 hours ago, Fennel Ka said: Hey Will, could you do a video with those brass notes from the FYC version of Kill them All placed over the beginning of Finn Vs. Kylo? Could you clarify which brass bit you're referring to? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faleel 5,348 Posted September 3, 2016 Share Posted September 3, 2016 The part that opens FYC track Attack on Jakku Pt. 2 that was edited out of the end of Torn Apart. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will 2,215 Posted September 3, 2016 Share Posted September 3, 2016 34 minutes ago, Fennel Ka said: The part that opens FYC track Attack on Jakku Pt. 2 that was edited out of the end of Torn Apart. That's what I thought you meant. Except ... :00-:10 in that FYC track is definitely in the film; and :10-:15 might be in the film -- it's hard to tell with the loud sound effects. So, at most, I'd be restoring about 5 seconds of (not particularly interesting, IMO) score. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crumbs 14,316 Posted September 3, 2016 Share Posted September 3, 2016 Okay @Will, here's one that popped into my head overnight and now I can't stop thinking about it. Is it just me, or are the first 4 notes of Poe's Theme and the Starkiller/Tragedy theme basically the same? I'm guessing there's no relationship here and they just happen to follow the same ascending-descending-ascending note progression, but I hadn't noticed until now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faleel 5,348 Posted September 3, 2016 Share Posted September 3, 2016 3 hours ago, Will said: That's what I thought you meant. Except ... :00-:10 in that FYC track is definitely in the film; and :10-:15 might be in the film -- it's hard to tell with the loud sound effects. So, at most, I'd be restoring about 5 seconds of (not particularly interesting, IMO) score. Well I think it might be a Finn related Motif. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henry B 50 Posted September 3, 2016 Share Posted September 3, 2016 Will, great job on the restoration. It's interesting to see how this was meant to be scored. About the music, though: in my opinion, that cue absolutely trashes that scene. Thank God it was cut. I think Williams is as strong a composer as ever, but I've felt many of his recent films have suffered from an excess of music. He's either forgotten how effective silence can be, or else his directors have just asked for too much music in spotting. It's hard to explain why I find this Hux music so grating, but it makes me feel like I'm watching the prequels. It turns the scene into B-movie material. The melodrama is totally unjustified and ridiculous. Some of my favorite moments of TFA are the ones without music: Rey's introduction, Finn's discovery of the crashed TIE Fighter, Han and Kylo's confrontation. Does anybody really believe that Han and Kylo's scene needed more elegiac, weepy strings right from the get-go? But I do love the alternate cue for Han's death! In that case, I feel Abrams played it too safe in a moment where all-out melodrama was appropriate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cerebral Cortex 3,357 Posted September 3, 2016 Share Posted September 3, 2016 Can't really add much more than was has already been said, but, yes, fantastic job, Will. Lot of fun to being able to watch with the score restored. Thanks for that. Will 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faleel 5,348 Posted September 3, 2016 Share Posted September 3, 2016 Yeah, Henry I suspect the filmmakers were going for coverage in certain scenes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will 2,215 Posted September 3, 2016 Share Posted September 3, 2016 16 hours ago, crumbs said: Okay @Will, here's one that popped into my head overnight and now I can't stop thinking about it. Is it just me, or are the first 4 notes of Poe's Theme and the Starkiller/Tragedy theme basically the same? I'm guessing there's no relationship here and they just happen to follow the same ascending-descending-ascending note progression, but I hadn't noticed until now. Interesting. I hadn't noticed that before. Definitely a coincidence though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will 2,215 Posted September 3, 2016 Share Posted September 3, 2016 15 hours ago, Fennel Ka said: Well I think it might be a Finn related Motif. Really? It seems like a rather typical, almost generic figure to me. Do you have any other examples of this supposed motif? In any case, if I have time to do another score restoration sometime I would probably want to do it for something more "major" (e.g. the Force theme Han's death alternate). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faleel 5,348 Posted September 3, 2016 Share Posted September 3, 2016 Finn's Trek, Follow Me... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will 2,215 Posted September 4, 2016 Share Posted September 4, 2016 3 hours ago, Fennel Ka said: Finn's Trek, Follow Me... Huh. Timestamps? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JacksonElmore 69 Posted September 6, 2016 Share Posted September 6, 2016 @Will im late to the circle jerk party but that was awesome! it adds so much to the scene, thanks for doing that. I have school tomorrow too...sucks. Anyway, great job again and my favorite part is the end of the scene/cue with those big stabs. so epic Will 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will 2,215 Posted September 6, 2016 Share Posted September 6, 2016 42 minutes ago, JacksonElmore said: I have school tomorrow too...sucks. Yeah, first day of high school for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,364 Posted September 6, 2016 Author Share Posted September 6, 2016 2 hours ago, JacksonElmore said: im late to the circle jerk party ew Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cerebral Cortex 3,357 Posted September 6, 2016 Share Posted September 6, 2016 2 hours ago, JacksonElmore said: I have school tomorrow too...sucks. ew-er Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will 2,215 Posted September 6, 2016 Share Posted September 6, 2016 17 hours ago, Jay said: ew My thoughts exactly when I saw that comment. JacksonElmore 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JacksonElmore 69 Posted September 6, 2016 Share Posted September 6, 2016 18 hours ago, Jay said: ew Yeah it was a pretty cringe worthy comment on my part 17 hours ago, Cerebral Cortex said: ew-er can i redeem myself at all by saying it's senior year of college and i'm studying film scoring? 19 hours ago, Will said: Yeah, first day of high school for me. hope it went well, first days can really suck sometimes Will 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cerebral Cortex 3,357 Posted September 7, 2016 Share Posted September 7, 2016 6 hours ago, JacksonElmore said: can i redeem myself at all by saying it's senior year of college and i'm studying film scoring? JacksonElmore 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will 2,215 Posted September 10, 2016 Share Posted September 10, 2016 On 9/6/2016 at 4:05 PM, JacksonElmore said: hope it went well, first days can really suck sometimes It did go well, mostly. I have a super old-school "general music" (i.e. music reading and history) teacher. He's super strict. I still think it will be a fun class, though -- I'm pretty good at following rules so hopefully that won't be a problem. But some of the things he says (paraphrasing)... "I've been studying music for decades. Don't even try to argue with me and tell me pop music is better than art music. It's not art music. We're here to learn about art music. I know what I'm talking about; what I say is correct." "I rejoiced when I saw the story about the kids who fell off a cliff playing Pokemon Go. Serves them right." He has a newspaper clipping near his door saying something like, "Child Self-Esteem Culture Takes Well-Deserved Hit." He never smiles, unless it's sarcastically. He uses a VCR to play note reading videos. He doesn't have a class website, unlike every other teacher. The class is crazy tense. Nobody talks out of turn. Dead silence. In spring we'll be writing an essay on a topic of our choice. I bet you can guess what composer I'll be writing about... JacksonElmore and Smeltington 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post LongTimeJWFan 11 Posted October 11, 2016 Popular Post Share Posted October 11, 2016 Though many have noted that Burning Homestead (Track 1-09 Episode IV) was intercut with Track 20 The Ways of the Force in the final version of the film, another cue from the Attack on Jakku Village was also intercut at the beginning of the attack of Starkiller base. Please see the attached link for reference:https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B0mRKLHTnMDdcXY1akFtTEQ2azA/view?usp=sharing Will, Disco Stu, Chewy and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chewy 2,391 Posted October 11, 2016 Share Posted October 11, 2016 17 minutes ago, LongTimeJWFan said: Though many have noted that Burning Homestead (Track 1-09 Episode IV) was intercut with Track 20 The Ways of the Force in the final version of the film, another cue from the Attack on Jakku Village was also intercut at the beginning of the attack of Starkiller base. Please see the attached link for reference:https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B0mRKLHTnMDdcXY1akFtTEQ2azA/view?usp=sharing Yeah! However you forgot to switch the music at 0:50 LongTimeJWFan and Disco Stu 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,364 Posted October 11, 2016 Author Share Posted October 11, 2016 Wow that was a cool video! I loved seeing the graphical representation of the difference sources on the bottom under the scene. Keep up the good work! LongTimeJWFan and Will 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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