Thor 7,508 Posted September 22, 2018 Share Posted September 22, 2018 First of all, the 'synth choir' isn't in a lot of tracks. I sometimes feel people dismiss TITANIC as a "New Age album" or something, when -- in reality -- most of the score is straightforward orchestral action music or romantic music. It's the old LADYHAWKE syndrome (the pop beats are used in marginal transportation and action sequences in the film, but the majority is old school orchestral fantasy scoring or medieval music -- yet it's the former people evaluate it by, and only that). Second, I like the approach in doing it with samples rather than real choir. Makes it more unique, and adds more of a character, sonically (less traditional). A sort of lofty, ethereal quality "not of this world". Wouldn't want it any other way. bollemanneke and NL197 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted September 22, 2018 Share Posted September 22, 2018 Please don't compare Titanic to that monstrosity of a score called Ladyhawke! Thank you! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted September 22, 2018 Share Posted September 22, 2018 6 minutes ago, Stefancos said: I hope they burn down the Haunted Mansion! With Justin in it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted September 22, 2018 Share Posted September 22, 2018 Just now, Quintus said: With Justin in it! sssttt! He's back, man! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 7,508 Posted September 22, 2018 Share Posted September 22, 2018 2 minutes ago, Stefancos said: Please don't compare Titanic to that monstrosity of a score called Ladyhawke! Thank you! Ah, you were doing so well, and now you fall into the very trap that many TITANIC critics do. I rank LADYHAWKE far above TITANIC on my alltime 'best of' list, but that's a different discussion. The point is that it's the same type of 'select' criticism at play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted September 22, 2018 Share Posted September 22, 2018 Titanic's score didnt practically ruin the film. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 7,508 Posted September 22, 2018 Share Posted September 22, 2018 Neither did LADYHAWKE. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted September 22, 2018 Share Posted September 22, 2018 You were doing so well, Thor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 7,508 Posted September 22, 2018 Share Posted September 22, 2018 I doubt you've seen the film or heard the soundtrack in question. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted September 22, 2018 Share Posted September 22, 2018 I have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,534 Posted September 22, 2018 Share Posted September 22, 2018 It's all psychobabble rap, to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted September 22, 2018 Share Posted September 22, 2018 Whenever I see Richard post straight after Stefan, it reads like "Stiff Dick". Kasey Kockroach 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NL197 368 Posted September 22, 2018 Share Posted September 22, 2018 The intended film version of 'Leaving Port' is THE highlight of the LLL album for me. It's my favorite cue. The intended film version of 'Southampton' was my holy grail cue from the score, and then Leaving Port came along and usurped it. Those celebratory moments are my favorite aspect of both the film and score. 'Southampton', 'Leaving Port' and 'Take Her To Sea, Mr. Murdoch' are my favorite cues along with the trailer. The chorus was always my favorite. Thor, I have to ask you something: If I were to take the original album program, and replace the OST cues with their corresponding film version cues, so the program itself remains the same, would you listen to it? I feel this score is a special case of being able to 'have your cake and eat it too' with enough of these cues being different that you could preserve the album presentation but hear some of the unreleased music. If you're at all interested, I'll send that your way and I'd love your feedback on it. bollemanneke 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kasey Kockroach 2,344 Posted September 22, 2018 Share Posted September 22, 2018 No. Can I go home now? Is there even a score beyond that awesome cue with the Enya-ish voices? That's the only thing I can remember about that one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 7,508 Posted September 22, 2018 Share Posted September 22, 2018 4 hours ago, NL197 said: Thor, I have to ask you something: If I were to take the original album program, and replace the OST cues with their corresponding film version cues, so the program itself remains the same, would you listen to it? I feel this score is a special case of being able to 'have your cake and eat it too' with enough of these cues being different that you could preserve the album presentation but hear some of the unreleased music. If you're at all interested, I'll send that your way and I'd love your feedback on it. Thank you for the offer, but I think I'm fine on the TITANIC front. I might be interested in checking out the "Volume 2/Back to Titanic" concept album at some point; I think I only sampled it once years ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,534 Posted September 22, 2018 Share Posted September 22, 2018 6 hours ago, Cherry Pie That'll Kill Ya said: Whenever I see Richard post straight after Stefan, it reads like "Stiff Dick". Actually, Jere, it was a comment on the LADYHAWKE conversation. You see, Andrew Powell was in - oh, Thor; you explain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NL197 368 Posted September 23, 2018 Share Posted September 23, 2018 1 hour ago, Thor said: Thank you for the offer, but I think I'm fine on the TITANIC front. I might be interested in checking out the "Volume 2/Back to Titanic" concept album at some point; I think I only sampled it once years ago. Fair enough, but I would easily say that in several places, those intended film cues are very different to what you're used to. It's really a different listen as a result. If you're not averse to YouTube videos, listen for yourself (synced along with the film) Will 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Penna 3,694 Posted September 23, 2018 Share Posted September 23, 2018 Nothing wrong with the action/drama cues. I'm not a massive fan of the synth choir. I don't hate it, but I don't understand the reason Horner used it instead of a real choir. I think that and the instrumentation used for a lot of the Rose material does date the score. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon Hill 4,234 Posted September 23, 2018 Share Posted September 23, 2018 3 hours ago, Richard Penna said: Nothing wrong with the action/drama cues. I'm not a massive fan of the synth choir. I don't hate it, but I don't understand the reason Horner used it instead of a real choir. I think that and the instrumentation used for a lot of the Rose material does date the score. He used the synth choir because it's what the director wanted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted September 23, 2018 Share Posted September 23, 2018 2 hours ago, TGP said: He used the synth choir because it's what the director wanted. Exactly! Its an aesthetic choice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bollemanneke 3,349 Posted September 23, 2018 Share Posted September 23, 2018 12 hours ago, Thor said: Thank you for the offer, but I think I'm fine on the TITANIC front. I might be interested in checking out the "Volume 2/Back to Titanic" concept album at some point; I think I only sampled it once years ago. Please don't waste your time on that album. Unless of course you're dying to hear a distorted I Salonisti cue, unnecessary alternate recordings and 'Jack, no, woohoo, hahaha!' in your music. I still admire your courage to stick to OSTs only, but don't go down the BTT route then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bespin 8,483 Posted September 23, 2018 Share Posted September 23, 2018 One thing is sure, he has aged better than me! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,079 Posted September 23, 2018 Author Share Posted September 23, 2018 8 minutes ago, Bespin said: One thing is sure, he has aged better than me! Who? Thor? bollemanneke 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bespin 8,483 Posted September 23, 2018 Share Posted September 23, 2018 Shut up. Jurassic Shark 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted September 23, 2018 Share Posted September 23, 2018 27 minutes ago, bollemanneke said: Please don't waste your time on that album. Unless of course you're dying to hear a distorted I Salonisti cue, unnecessary alternate recordings and 'Jack, no, woohoo, hahaha!' in your music. I still admire your courage to stick to OSTs only, but don't go down the BTT route then. Actually, Thor would probably value the Back To Titanic album more than most here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,079 Posted September 23, 2018 Author Share Posted September 23, 2018 Because it's even less complete? bollemanneke 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted September 23, 2018 Share Posted September 23, 2018 Because it's assembled for listening experience. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bollemanneke 3,349 Posted September 23, 2018 Share Posted September 23, 2018 But do we know if Horner approved the dialogue tracks? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted September 23, 2018 Share Posted September 23, 2018 He produced the album, why wouldnt he have approved it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,079 Posted September 23, 2018 Author Share Posted September 23, 2018 I'm sure the other James forced him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted September 23, 2018 Share Posted September 23, 2018 Does it matter anyway? Horner certainly didnt aprove the 4 CD set. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bollemanneke 3,349 Posted September 23, 2018 Share Posted September 23, 2018 I was just curious. Listening to the LLL set because of this thread now and though the score just got better yet again, I do notice that some soft tracks are way too loud and vice versa. Bad Bulk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted September 23, 2018 Share Posted September 23, 2018 I'm sure Neil did the best he could. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bollemanneke 3,349 Posted September 23, 2018 Share Posted September 23, 2018 Well, I solved lots of these issues in my personal edit and all it too me was decreasing decibels with Audacity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted September 23, 2018 Share Posted September 23, 2018 They like it brighter and louder these days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted September 23, 2018 Share Posted September 23, 2018 Problematic for people with hearing issues. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted September 23, 2018 Share Posted September 23, 2018 😞 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bollemanneke 3,349 Posted September 23, 2018 Share Posted September 23, 2018 Me too, but loud tracks shouldn't be too soft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeinAR 1,949 Posted September 23, 2018 Share Posted September 23, 2018 This is a definitive eye rolling thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Illustrious Jerry 3,356 Posted September 23, 2018 Share Posted September 23, 2018 How do scores age exactly? bollemanneke 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,079 Posted September 23, 2018 Author Share Posted September 23, 2018 8 minutes ago, JoeinAR said: This is a definitive eye rolling thread. 🙄 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted September 23, 2018 Share Posted September 23, 2018 9 minutes ago, The Illustrious Jerry said: How do scores age exactly? Films do deteriorate and disappear... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Illustrious Jerry 3,356 Posted September 23, 2018 Share Posted September 23, 2018 Not films. Scores. How do scores age? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted September 23, 2018 Share Posted September 23, 2018 1 minute ago, The Illustrious Jerry said: Not films. Scores. How do scores age? It's a George Lucas quote. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Illustrious Jerry 3,356 Posted September 23, 2018 Share Posted September 23, 2018 Oh, well then. Listen to George Lucas we must. Save us it can. bollemanneke 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John 2,032 Posted September 23, 2018 Share Posted September 23, 2018 18 minutes ago, Cherry Pie That'll Kill Ya said: Films do deteriorate and disappear... It’s stylistically designed to be that way and you can’t undo that. But we can diminish the effects of it. MikeH and Nick1Ø66 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted September 23, 2018 Share Posted September 23, 2018 Everything and everyone withers! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bollemanneke 3,349 Posted September 23, 2018 Share Posted September 23, 2018 Titanic has aged way better than Star Wars though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Illustrious Jerry 3,356 Posted September 23, 2018 Share Posted September 23, 2018 52 minutes ago, Stefancos said: Everything and everyone withers! I am so glad we are talking about the Titanic score aging Sam, here at the end of all things! Nick1Ø66 and bollemanneke 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,079 Posted September 23, 2018 Author Share Posted September 23, 2018 3 minutes ago, bollemanneke said: Titanic has aged way better than Star Wars though. No, it's actually being eaten by bacteria. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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