Joe Brausam 214 Posted February 12, 2009 Share Posted February 12, 2009 And as joey225 said, snare drum was one of the two most prominent instruments in those days during the Civil War. Thats not something that makes one excited.What, does a snare drum-heavy score excite you?I could see this score going one of three ways...1. Snare drum/fife-heavy score hearkening back to civil war army bands and such.2. Patriot/JFK/Rosewood-esque.3. Something like James Horner's Glory.I'm hoping for #2, but we'll see.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MSM 126 Posted February 12, 2009 Share Posted February 12, 2009 Snare drum is my favorite instrument, after hang, xun, shakuhachi and setar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Datameister 2,043 Posted February 12, 2009 Share Posted February 12, 2009 What, does a snare drum-heavy score excite you?If it's well-written, yes... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Penna 3,691 Posted February 12, 2009 Share Posted February 12, 2009 Slate away, but I'm not particularly excited about this.I'm not going to jump the gun or anything, since we don't know what style or instrumentation it will be, but Williams' low key efforts lately (Minority Report, parts of KotCS, WotW) haven't really done much for me.I'm sure Williams will love it, and technically it will be exceptional, but emotionally? I'll wait for the sound clips. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,631 Posted February 12, 2009 Share Posted February 12, 2009 The main theme will probably be something similar to the first minute of Air and Simple GiftsYes,that's exactly how it will sound...mark my words Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,017 Posted February 12, 2009 Share Posted February 12, 2009 Is Tim Morrison already listed as a soloist? If not, he will be eventually. <_<Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,251 Posted February 12, 2009 Share Posted February 12, 2009 The main theme will probably be something similar to the first minute of Air and Simple GiftsYes,that's exactly how it will sound...mark my wordsI'll be happy if he puts out something along the lines of Rosewood. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neimoidian 14 Posted February 13, 2009 Share Posted February 13, 2009 What if it's going to be a piano-driven score? I believe it was a popular instrument back then too and Williams might want to write something fresh instead of his typical horn + trumpet Americana. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,643 Posted February 13, 2009 Share Posted February 13, 2009 What if it's going to be a piano-driven score? I believe it was a popular instrument back then too and Williams might want to write something fresh instead of his typical horn + trumpet Americana.Oh, those fresh piano driven Williams scores... I'd like to keep him away from those somber dramas for a while. The musical palette is so predictable, the already mentioned honored colleague from whatever soloistic department included. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,337 Posted February 13, 2009 Share Posted February 13, 2009 In order to stimulate "originality", I would propose a score entirely written for string quartet. Not only would this be interesting for us Williams fans, it would be a serious musical challenge for the composer too.Alex Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neimoidian 14 Posted February 13, 2009 Share Posted February 13, 2009 What if it's going to be a piano-driven score? I believe it was a popular instrument back then too and Williams might want to write something fresh instead of his typical horn + trumpet Americana.Oh, those fresh piano driven Williams scores... I'd like to keep him away from those somber dramas for a while. The musical palette is so predictable, the already mentioned honored colleague from whatever soloistic department included.After 50 years in the business, Williams has become predictable to certain extent (not only in somber dramas, but especially in his adventure scores - vide KotCS). I see no reason, however, to discard his upcoming score when there is not a single note written so far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,715 Posted February 13, 2009 Share Posted February 13, 2009 In order to stimulate "originality", I would propose a score entirely written for string quartet. Not only would this be interesting for us Williams fans, it would be a serious musical challenge for the composer too.Alex Most of the MB members would say a collective MEH!!! and denounce and forget the project if something like that was announced.Personally I am very much anticipating the Lincoln score. The historical period and the character offer great musical and dramatic possibilities. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,337 Posted February 13, 2009 Share Posted February 13, 2009 In order to stimulate "originality", I would propose a score entirely written for string quartet. Not only would this be interesting for us Williams fans, it would be a serious musical challenge for the composer too. Most of the MB members would say a collective MEH!!! and denounce and forget the project if something like that was announced.I know. Most JW fans are, let's say, quite conservative when it comes to film music. Personally I am very much anticipating the Lincoln score. The historical period and the character offer great musical and dramatic possibilities.But sadly, it's going to be nothing new under the sun. Most people won't even notice this score when they are going to see this movie. Really, I wonder if I truly need just another JW score. I wish Spielberg and Williams had the balls to take more musical risks.Alex Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Penna 3,691 Posted February 13, 2009 Share Posted February 13, 2009 In order to stimulate "originality", I would propose a score entirely written for string quartet. Not only would this be interesting for us Williams fans, it would be a serious musical challenge for the composer too.Alex Most of the MB members would say a collective MEH!!! and denounce and forget the project if something like that was announced.Personally I am very much anticipating the Lincoln score. The historical period and the character offer great musical and dramatic possibilities.Count me as one of those 'mehhhh'-ers. Gifts was nice, but got too frenetic for me and isn't something I'd normally listen to.I'll anticipate it, but I'm reserving any real hype until we hear some sound clips that make us go scavenging for OST leaks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,337 Posted February 13, 2009 Share Posted February 13, 2009 Count me as one of those 'mehhhh'-ers.I would've been surprised if you weren't one of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taikomochi 1,136 Posted February 13, 2009 Share Posted February 13, 2009 On the subject of winning an Oscar, I just like to imagine what I'd be like when they call his name. It would be such a sweet moment. I'd be jumping for joy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red 75 Posted February 13, 2009 Share Posted February 13, 2009 On the subject of winning an Oscar, I just like to imagine what I'd be like when they call his name. It would be such a sweet moment. I'd be jumping for joy.Even if it was for an undeserving score? How fanboyish of you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Penna 3,691 Posted February 13, 2009 Share Posted February 13, 2009 Indeed. I'm looking forward to the very real prospect of Thomas Newman getting his first oscar for that song from Wall-E, but if he does, there will always be that nagging thought that it wasn't for his actual scoring talents, but for a song that I don't think is really that great (I'm assuming he won't win for the score). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joni Wiljami 1,206 Posted February 13, 2009 Share Posted February 13, 2009 In order to stimulate "originality", I would propose a score entirely written for string quartet. Not only would this be interesting for us Williams fans, it would be a serious musical challenge for the composer too.AlexI think that would be nice. It is still one of the finest musical groups.I am done with all these americana horn/trumpet scores(as much I like the brilliant performers).Please , John , give us something different! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henry B 50 Posted February 13, 2009 Share Posted February 13, 2009 Indeed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
indy4 155 Posted February 14, 2009 Share Posted February 14, 2009 Honestly, I don't even think that SL deserved to win. My vote would have gone to Elfman's The Nightmare Before Christmas.JP should have been nominated as its a better score than SL.I agree, but Nightmare was better than both. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Parker 3,040 Posted February 14, 2009 Share Posted February 14, 2009 The harpsichord was pretty popular then, maybe he will write for that.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henry B 50 Posted February 14, 2009 Share Posted February 14, 2009 The harpsichord was nearly irrelevant then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Brausam 214 Posted February 14, 2009 Share Posted February 14, 2009 Especially in America. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Parker 3,040 Posted February 14, 2009 Share Posted February 14, 2009 I was commenting on all of the speculation around a score we know nothing about, except that it is for a film entitled Lincoln. Perhaps I should have said "the kazoo" to make it more obvious.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Williamsfan301 11 Posted February 14, 2009 Share Posted February 14, 2009 The harpsichord was nearly irrelevant then.irrelevant? It was obsolete. Piano was big...this is shortly before Stephen Fosters death. They were publishing piano music by the barrelful by now.If anything, though, JW will probably go with the African American Spiritual sound, I'm thinking. Or the solo violin.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hunter 0 Posted February 14, 2009 Share Posted February 14, 2009 The harpsichord was nearly irrelevant then.irrelevant? It was obsolete. Piano was big...this is shortly before Stephen Fosters death. They were publishing piano music by the barrelful by now.If anything, though, JW will probably go with the African American Spiritual sound, I'm thinking. Or the solo violin....A solo violin would be very nice to have, in my opinion. If Williams were to do that he probably would offer Perlman the solo. They always collaborate nicely together. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Penna 3,691 Posted February 14, 2009 Share Posted February 14, 2009 Solo violin works I can picture it now... Lincoln's Theme. And Lincoln's Theme Reprise at the end of the album. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neimoidian 14 Posted February 14, 2009 Share Posted February 14, 2009 I'd rather have someone else than Perlman. Not that I have something against him, but his play has very distinct sound and I'd like Lincoln score sound differently, unlike SL or Chairman's Waltz. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Penna 3,691 Posted February 14, 2009 Share Posted February 14, 2009 Maybe Joshua Bell or Hilary Hahn. Both have worked with JNH recently and seem to be at the top of their game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,631 Posted February 14, 2009 Share Posted February 14, 2009 Actually,please no solo violin or cello...we already have too many of these Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MSM 126 Posted February 14, 2009 Share Posted February 14, 2009 I want snare drums, lots of brass and rousing themes! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Williamsfan301 11 Posted February 15, 2009 Share Posted February 15, 2009 Maybe Joshua Bell or Hilary Hahn. Both have worked with JNH recently and seem to be at the top of their game.Joshua Bell has done several concerts with JW. I'm sure he'd be on the short list. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,631 Posted February 15, 2009 Share Posted February 15, 2009 I want snare drums, lots of brass and rousing themes!me too,and I'm not kidding Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henry B 50 Posted February 15, 2009 Share Posted February 15, 2009 I don't think Spielberg's intended audience is eight-year-old boys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,337 Posted February 15, 2009 Share Posted February 15, 2009 What's the deal with film music fans and lots of heroic brass and military snares? 9 out of 10 soundtracks are like that. Put on the television and there is that sound again: breaking trombones, enormous taiko hits, piatti slams, rapid tom tom beats ... and all we see is a pedestrian show where a nerd has to choose between two bimbos. Alex Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hitch 57 Posted February 15, 2009 Share Posted February 15, 2009 Solo violin works I can picture it now... Lincoln's Theme. And Lincoln's Theme Reprise at the end of the album.The Assassination will be before Lincoln's Theme Reprise Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted February 15, 2009 Share Posted February 15, 2009 What's the deal with film music fans and lots of heroic brass and military snares? 9 out of 10 soundtracks are like that. Put on the television and there is that sound again: breaking trombones, enormous taiko hits, piatti slams, rapid tom tom beats ... and all we see is a pedestrian show where a nerd has to choose between two bimbos. AlexThat type of show needs that music to pretend that what you are seeing on screen is exciting and dramatic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted February 15, 2009 Share Posted February 15, 2009 A bit like this highly anticipated videogame trailer music. 1:24 secs onwards I mean.Does a good job at making what will likely be a great game seem very exciting. Check out the Williams style brass and woodwinds Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,337 Posted February 15, 2009 Share Posted February 15, 2009 What's the deal with film music fans and lots of heroic brass and military snares? 9 out of 10 soundtracks are like that. Put on the television and there is that sound again: breaking trombones, enormous taiko hits, piatti slams, rapid tom tom beats ... and all we see is a pedestrian show where a nerd has to choose between two bimbos. AlexThat type of show needs that music to pretend that what you are seeing on screen is exciting and dramatic.Yes, but what I mean is that we are literally surrounded by this type of film music. How can anyone still be seduced by it? It's so omnipresent. Overused, really.Alex Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted February 15, 2009 Share Posted February 15, 2009 People prefer to hear things that are familiar to them, rather then something that is new and possible a bit more challenging. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bowie 45 Posted February 15, 2009 Share Posted February 15, 2009 Maybe it's time Williams shows all these composers how to do the "cliché" properly, and with style. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Williamsfan301 11 Posted February 15, 2009 Share Posted February 15, 2009 enormous taiko hitsI'm so tired of taiko drums. Just because they exist, doesn't mean they need to be used in every war scenepiatti slamsI had those at an Italian restaurant once. Boy they were good with some Gorgonzola on them... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Parker 3,040 Posted February 15, 2009 Share Posted February 15, 2009 A bit like this highly anticipated videogame trailer music. 1:24 secs onwards I mean.Does a good job at making what will likely be a great game seem very exciting. Check out the Williams style brass and woodwinds I am so excited for that game! I loved the Resident Evil games since way before I should have. I remember sneaking in the middle of the night to play Resident Evil 2 when I was five...scared the living daylights out of me. I am excited for the orchestral score, especially given the orchestra performing it, but I am a little anxious given the composer's (lack of) "track record". Ah well, everyone has to start somewhere.EDIT: I would like to apologize to the moderators for my overly long signature, and I will keep in mind to not use something that big again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,251 Posted February 15, 2009 Share Posted February 15, 2009 I'm over Resident Evil. I was a fan back when the first came out. The franchise lost it and the games just started getting bad. I played the RE5 demo and turned it off after 2 minutes. Horrible controls, stupid overly muscular characters, and an over-the-shoulder view. It turned into an action game, which is not what it's supposed to be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Parker 3,040 Posted February 15, 2009 Share Posted February 15, 2009 Well, it was just a demo. I would imagine that the game developers would make improvements between whenever this demo was released and the actual release date. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,251 Posted February 15, 2009 Share Posted February 15, 2009 They're not gonna change the camera view, controls, or content of the game between the release of the demo and the game Demos show basically finished products. I've never seen a case where major changes were made. They usually just touch up graphics maybe, fix some bugs or glitches etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Parker 3,040 Posted February 15, 2009 Share Posted February 15, 2009 Probably not.Well, in a effort to bring things back to topic... there is not much we can discuss about this score, is there? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Penna 3,691 Posted February 15, 2009 Share Posted February 15, 2009 Solo violin works I can picture it now... Lincoln's Theme. And Lincoln's Theme Reprise at the end of the album.The Assassination will be before Lincoln's Theme Reprise Correction, The Assassination Scene Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,715 Posted February 15, 2009 Share Posted February 15, 2009 Having just listened to the Air and Simple Gifts again I think writing a score for Lincoln and using a quartet of this kind would be a great challenge for Williams. And I am sure he could get such a quartet of high profile musicians in on the project. Air and Simple GiftsThe "Air" melody sounds something that would be a spot on theme for Lincoln. And even with the quartet, without the brassy fanfares or woodwind flurries the music sounds very impressive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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