Quintus 5,399 Posted August 4, 2015 Share Posted August 4, 2015 Which scores do you rate highly whilst never wanting to listen to them as standalone musical experiences? Have you ever loved the music during the film and bought the OST only to find it just didn't work when separated from the imagery? I did this with Terminator 2. Brad Fiedel wrote great soundtracks for both of the original movies, but I listened to the soundtrack of T2 once and once only. It just wasn't an enjoyable listen. When I moved house recently I actually threw the CD and its shiny silver case away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,364 Posted August 4, 2015 Share Posted August 4, 2015 Die Hard With A VengeanceScore is really awesome, but the OST album was a terrible mess of stuff that had very little to do with the film's scoreEDIT: Oh, that's not what you mean.Hmmm. Not sure if there's ever been a film experience where I loved what I heard while watching it, but then didn't like it when listened outside the film.Usually I expect that. I mean there are plenty of films that I love, and whose music supports the film just fine, but I don't have any interest in listening to it separated. Batman Begins, Memento, and Under The Skin come to mind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted August 4, 2015 Author Share Posted August 4, 2015 Don't some people have a penchant for the kitschy crudeness of the Princess Bride's score as they're watching the movie? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,364 Posted August 4, 2015 Share Posted August 4, 2015 Oh man. I LOVE that film, but honestly never even noticed the score in it until a few years back.I listened to the OST on a whim and was surprised that it was all synth plodding with the occasional nice guitar work.Saw the film about a year later and realized oh yea, there's some synths here, how about that.The score doesn't hurt the film, and the guitar parts are actually nice. But the album is super dull. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uni 306 Posted August 4, 2015 Share Posted August 4, 2015 I'm sure there are plenty of examples I could think of, but the one that leaps to mind immediately is The Game. I remembered the music conveying a chilling effect during the movie, but was thoroughly bored when I listened to it separately.I did this with Terminator 2. Brad Fiedel wrote great soundtracks for both of the original movies, but I listened to the soundtrack of T2 once and once only. It just wasn't an enjoyable listen. When I moved house recently I actually threw the CD and its shiny silver case away.I also think you have to give a score a second, and sometimes third or fourth, chance to get through to you. I can agree that much of T2 is a pretty mechanical experience, but I wouldn't dream of tossing out a CD that contains pieces like "Desert Suite" and especially "It's Over/Goodbye," the best piece Fiedel ever composed.Don't some people have a penchant for the kitschy crudeness of the Princess Bride's score as they're watching the movie?That's another pretty good example. I'm still not completely sold on the music outside the movie, but I can't picture that picture without it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,364 Posted August 4, 2015 Share Posted August 4, 2015 I like the T2 score. I agree, its PERFECT for the film and less interesting on album, but there are plenty of great highlight tracks that are well worth listening to on there! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mstrox 6,651 Posted August 4, 2015 Share Posted August 4, 2015 Goldsmith's "Planet of the Apes"Should I duck and cover now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted August 4, 2015 Author Share Posted August 4, 2015 No you shouldn't! You make a solid suggestion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DreamTheater 131 Posted August 4, 2015 Share Posted August 4, 2015 I like the T2 score. I agree, its PERFECT for the film and less interesting on album, but there are plenty of great highlight tracks that are well worth listening to on there!I think I'm in the minority but to me the whole album is a highlight. One of the best purely (and only) synthesized film scores I own. Fiedel created an entire sonic universe for that film and I love it to bits.Bad album, great score ? Nigel Westlake's Babe, well the original Varèse Sarabande album which sucks all the loveliness of the composition out of the music. There's only a couple of cues that are without dialogue but that's not enough to save the horrid album. The 2015 re-recording is a HUGE improvement, it's a stunning 5 STAR album now, because it's performed flawlessly. There's now only the small matter of doing the same for Babe: Pig in the City which got an awful release as well.Probably not what you meant Quintus but your topic title made me think of this immediately and I had to post something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hlao-roo 389 Posted August 4, 2015 Share Posted August 4, 2015 Logan's Run, Close Encounters of the Third Kind, Raiders of the Lost Ark, Poltergeist Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,643 Posted August 4, 2015 Share Posted August 4, 2015 Brónach and BLUMENKOHL 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,364 Posted August 4, 2015 Share Posted August 4, 2015 Man, PSYCHO is perfect in the movie, isn't it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon Hill 4,234 Posted August 4, 2015 Share Posted August 4, 2015 Goldsmith's "Planet of the Apes"Should I duck and cover now?Fantastic score on album. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 7,504 Posted August 4, 2015 Share Posted August 4, 2015 I agree with Fiedel's TERMINATOR scores. Fantastic scores in the films, almost unlistenable on album (except the main theme).I felt the same way about a particular score last year -- Mica Levi's UNDER THE SKIN. Superb score in the film, but I don't want to listen to it alone. In fact, that goes for most horror scores for me. Unless it's composed in a more romantic, melodic idiom (what I call 'delicious darkness') -- like HELLRAISER, THE FURY, DRACULA, SCREAM etc. -- I'm hesitant to own it. Stingers and sneaking-around music (with loads of tenuto strings) are not for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,364 Posted August 4, 2015 Share Posted August 4, 2015 Under The Skin was brilliant in the (great!) film. No desire to listen to it on its own. Thor 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muad'Dib 1,802 Posted August 4, 2015 Share Posted August 4, 2015 The Great Silence Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DreamTheater 131 Posted August 4, 2015 Share Posted August 4, 2015 I was going to say Godzilla by Desplat but then I remembered I pretty much hated the score in the film as well as outside of it. So I won't mention it here.To be honest there aren't too many where scores just didn't work when I listened standalone when in the film they did. I either like it or don't like it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Dixon Hill 4,234 Posted August 4, 2015 Share Posted August 4, 2015 I felt the same way about a particular score last year -- Mica Levi's UNDER THE SKIN. Superb score in the film, but I don't want to listen to it alone.Great "mood album" even if the desire for such a mood might not happen often. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gnome in Plaid 219 Posted August 4, 2015 Share Posted August 4, 2015 I might be in the minority, but that's exactly how I feel about Inception. I thought it fit the film perfectly, but there are only a couple cues I ever listen to from the score. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 7,504 Posted August 4, 2015 Share Posted August 4, 2015 Wow, Bespin? GHOST, really? That's a damn fine album. You continue to bewilder me with your quirks and things. And INCEPTION is probably one of my favourite soundtracks in the last few years -- both in the film and outside. But I guess a thread like this will always have suggestions by some that will be incomprehensible to others. That's the name of the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon Hill 4,234 Posted August 4, 2015 Share Posted August 4, 2015 As I frequently say, the original Inception album is one of my favorite albums overall. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hlao-roo 389 Posted August 4, 2015 Share Posted August 4, 2015 We should have a "Bad score but a great album!" thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EdwardHall 30 Posted August 4, 2015 Share Posted August 4, 2015 "Crimson Tide" by Hans Zimmer. It is only five tracks. Tracks two and four are about twenty minutes of really intense electronic music each which should have been broken up into more tracks, even if they were gapless, continuous tracks. "Crimson Tide" is Hans Zimmer's absolute best score, IMO. He wrote it before he sold out to the Hollywood machine around 2000. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,364 Posted August 4, 2015 Share Posted August 4, 2015 There is a recording session leak available which is broken up into smaller tracks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon Hill 4,234 Posted August 4, 2015 Share Posted August 4, 2015 Selling out allowed him to write his actual best scores, then! Sharkissimo 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EdwardHall 30 Posted August 5, 2015 Share Posted August 5, 2015 Which are Zimmer's actual best scores? I don't have as much irrational disdain for Zimmer as filmtracks.com, but most of what he has written since the 90s sounds awfully generic, in my opinion. I admit there are a few gems - "The Holiday," "It's Complicated," parts of "The Lone Ranger," parts of the three "Dark Knight" scores, for example. On that note, I am really looking forward to seeing what Zimmer does for "Batman v. Superman." Has he given any indication that he will discard all of his Nolan/Bale Dark Knight music and start over? That would be incredibly strange. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,251 Posted August 5, 2015 Share Posted August 5, 2015 He's not scoring any of the Batman material, that's gonna be Holkenborg. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,643 Posted August 5, 2015 Share Posted August 5, 2015 "Crimson Tide" is Hans Zimmer's absolute best score, IMO. He wrote it before he sold out to the Hollywood machine around 2000.CRIMSON TIDE is only a tiny notch above 'nothing', really. Apart from the theme. Sharkissimo 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted August 5, 2015 Author Share Posted August 5, 2015 Logan's Run, Close Encounters of the Third Kind, Raiders of the Lost Ark, PoltergeistWithout Login's Run I'd be able to handle what seems to be obvious satire here but with it I feel confused, disorientated and left pondering the meaning of life. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 7,504 Posted August 5, 2015 Share Posted August 5, 2015 And now CRIMSON TIDE is being mentioned too -- one of my favourite Zimmer scores and albums (absolutely love the long "suite" format)! Yikes! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DreamTheater 131 Posted August 5, 2015 Share Posted August 5, 2015 Wow, Bespin? GHOST, really? That's a damn fine album.I completely disagree. Ghost is good in the film but gets on my nerves on album. The synths are totally grating, however the 2 orchestral cues and the song make an otherwise awful album a bit better. Just not enough, because I didn't keep that one.And now CRIMSON TIDE is being mentioned too -- one of my favourite Zimmer scores and albums (absolutely love the long "suite" format)! Yikes!I completely agree. It just works by only having 5 cues, I love all 60 minutes of Zimmer's concept approach. Of course I'm no stranger to overlong cues (songs), hence my username which is my number 1 rock band. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted August 5, 2015 Author Share Posted August 5, 2015 What or "long suite" Zimmer tracks are recommended? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharkissimo 1,973 Posted August 5, 2015 Share Posted August 5, 2015 Which are Zimmer's actual best scores? I don't have as much irrational disdain for Zimmer as filmtracks.com, but most of what he has written since the 90s sounds awfully generic, in my opinion.Frost/NixonFrost/NixonFrost/NixonFrost/Nixon KK 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,364 Posted August 5, 2015 Share Posted August 5, 2015 What or "long suite" Zimmer tracks are recommended?Rock House Jail1SQPeacemaker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 7,504 Posted August 5, 2015 Share Posted August 5, 2015 From CRIMSON TIDE or in general? I also like his K2 album, which only has two very long tracks ("The Ascent" and "The Descent"). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,364 Posted August 5, 2015 Share Posted August 5, 2015 Which are Zimmer's actual best scores? Here you go:http://www.jwfan.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=25514 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KK 3,307 Posted August 5, 2015 Share Posted August 5, 2015 Which are Zimmer's actual best scores? I don't have as much irrational disdain for Zimmer as filmtracks.com, but most of what he has written since the 90s sounds awfully generic, in my opinion.Frost/NixonFrost/NixonFrost/NixonFrost/NixonAmen! Glad to see more preaching for this underrated gem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon Hill 4,234 Posted August 5, 2015 Share Posted August 5, 2015 Logan's Run, Close Encounters of the Third Kind, Raiders of the Lost Ark, PoltergeistWithout Login's Run I'd be able to handle what seems to be obvious satire here but with it I feel confused, disorientated and left pondering the meaning of life.Logan's Run belongs in the "great score for a terrible movie" thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharkissimo 1,973 Posted August 5, 2015 Share Posted August 5, 2015 Logan's Run, Close Encounters of the Third Kind, Raiders of the Lost Ark, PoltergeistWithout Login's Run I'd be able to handle what seems to be obvious satire here but with it I feel confused, disorientated and left pondering the meaning of life.Logan's Run belongs in the "great score for a terrible movie" thread.Together with Interstellar! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon Hill 4,234 Posted August 5, 2015 Share Posted August 5, 2015 Which one is that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted August 5, 2015 Share Posted August 5, 2015 Your favorite movie of all time. The one no one else understands but you! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon Hill 4,234 Posted August 5, 2015 Share Posted August 5, 2015 That doesn't narrow it down much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uni 306 Posted August 5, 2015 Share Posted August 5, 2015 Goldsmith's "Planet of the Apes"Should I duck and cover now?When I first picked up POTA, I wasn't expecting the abstractness of it (I hadn't seen the movie in years), and I absolutely hated it. It would be a long, very patient learning process before I grew to understand and eventually love what Goldsmith did with the music for that film—although I still don't find it a very soothing listen, to be sure.Logan's Run, Close Encounters of the Third Kind, Raiders of the Lost Ark, PoltergeistI can't even. . . . . . . . That doesn't narrow it down much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted August 5, 2015 Share Posted August 5, 2015 The harshness of the vintage recording of POTA adds to its relative lack of accessibility, which has probably turned off a lot of listeners. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,533 Posted August 6, 2015 Share Posted August 6, 2015 Goldsmith's "Planet of the Apes"Should I duck and cover now?Fantastic score on album.Agreed. It's a tough listen, to be sure, but if you stick with it, then the rewards are 10-fold. This was the first JG I bought in 1975. I listened to it, and I have never looked back.The harshness of the vintage recording of POTA adds to its relative lack of accessibility, which has probably turned off a lot of listeners.Hmm. Now that is true. I'd love a re-recording, but it wouldn't capture the "atmopshere" of the score. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,335 Posted August 6, 2015 Share Posted August 6, 2015 Dry is harsh? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted August 6, 2015 Share Posted August 6, 2015 It can be Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,335 Posted August 6, 2015 Share Posted August 6, 2015 Sure, but he same is true for washy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted August 6, 2015 Share Posted August 6, 2015 Washy is more annoying then harsh to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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