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#1 karelm

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Posted 10 February 2013 - 05:43 PM

Hi,

 

Did anyone manage to make it to the YMF Debut concert last night?  Nice to report Maestro looked great and was in top form.  No signs of slowing down I’m happy to say.   He did make this one tantalizing comment before playing the Star Wars theme:

 

“We’re about to play Star Wars [audience interrupts with cheers] and each time we play it, I’m reminded of the first time we played it decades ago.  Neither I, nor George, nor anyone else involved thought this would go far or in a few years there would be a sequel and I’d have to revisit the themes…and years later another trilogy.  Now we’re hearing of a new set of movies coming in 2015, 2016…so I need to make sure I’m still ready to go in a few years for what I hope would be continued work with George…[more cheers].”

 

It seems from the comment he made, he has stated interest in scoring the new films (assuming his stamina and health continues (fingers crossed)).  And second, he might not realize the new films are not directly controlled by Lucas but now in the hands of JJ Abrams.  Do we need to start a letter writing campaign to vocally have JJ Abrams at least give right of first refusal to Williams?  I think it might make a nice passing of the “baton” if JW did the first with Giacchino as understudy to boost some of his skills and really take the place as the heir to JW.  Something Giacchino seems willing but untrained to do.  It is like that whole padawan/master thing in Star Wars.

 

The sold out concert program was:

 

The Cowboys Overture

Close Encounters suite

Harry Potter Suite

* Hedwig's Theme

* Nimbus 2000

* Harry's Wondrous World

ET "Adventures on Earth"

 

- Intermission -

 

Hollywood Movie Tribute

Hook selections

* The Face of Pan

* Flight to Neverland

Violin suites with Bing Wang, soloist

* Fiddler on the Roof

* Schindler's List

Tintin "The Duel"

Lincoln "With Malice Toward None"

Star Wars Main Title

 

Encores:

Elegy for cello and strings

Raiders of the Lost Ark

Imperial March

 

 

 

 

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March 30th, 2013 update:  Michael Giacchino says "I'm a huge Star Wars Fan, but one of the things that excites me most about it coming back is the chance to hear new John Williams music, not new Michael Giacchino music based on John Williams music.   I'm excited to hear what he would do, so however it shakes out, it would be great."

 

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April 13th, 2013 update: Michael Giacchino makes similar comments at a Star Trek concert in Switzerland

 

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April 19th, 2013 update: JJ Abrams says at a Star Trek premiere that John Williams will score Episode 7

 

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May 20th, 2013 update: Kaya Savas interviewed John Williams at BMI Film/TV Awards, and he stated "I certainly plan to, and fully expect I'll be there and to be able to do it."

 

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June 10th, 2013 update: John Williams confirms at Boston concerts that he will be scoring Episode 7

 

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July 27th, 2013 update: At Star Wars Celebration VI, the announcement is officially made that John Williams was formally asked to score all 3 new Star Wars films (Episodes 7, 8, and 9).  And an official video was uploaded to youtube featuring John talking about working with JJ and Kathleen Kennedy on the new films

 

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Posted 10 February 2013 - 05:48 PM

Wow!  That is quite unexpected for him to say that!

Very interesting indeed!

 

BTW, which Hook pieces did he play?  I have only ever heard "Flight To Neverland" played live by him in person.



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Posted 10 February 2013 - 05:51 PM

I left the program in the car so I'll get it later in the day and update the program list with specifics. 



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Posted 10 February 2013 - 05:52 PM

Of course he made similar comments about continuing on Harry Potter too and we all know how that turned out.

 

 

We're getting ready to be oversaturated with Star Wars and need to get used to the idea music can be done by someone other than Williams, it's happened before, Shadows, The Clone Wars.......



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Posted 10 February 2013 - 05:52 PM

That he still thinks the new movies are in George's hands tells me all I need to know about how in the loop he is with this new trilogy.

 

Nothing to see here folks.  Move along. 



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Posted 10 February 2013 - 05:55 PM

I agree with Broc!


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Posted 10 February 2013 - 06:11 PM

Pathetic naysayers, karelm posts a very positive news and all you do after Jasons post is to destroy the thread. Good job!

 

Do you really believe JW's good friend Steven Spielberg didn't mention any of this in their regular meetings. Are you so narrow minded to think that Steven Spielberg who is a good friend with George Lucas, Kathleen Kennedy and JW and also was instrumental in the JJ Abrams pick wouldn't talk with JW about these issues? You seem to have no idea what friendship means and thats really sad...



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Posted 10 February 2013 - 06:45 PM

I have no objection (quite the contrary!) to Williams scoring another Star Wars film or films. Who knows, maybe it would even be possible and most likely they would offer the film to him out of courtesy. But I consider it a bit unlikely.


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Posted 10 February 2013 - 06:55 PM

I would LOVE to hear what he could do in a non Spielberg/Lucas sci-fi adventure film while paying tribute to the established vocabulary.  Sort of like a reboot of his own material.  How cool would that be to hear if he knew then what he knows now, how he would approach this material.  I would be surprised if he ends up scoring it but am keeping my fingers crossed.



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Posted 10 February 2013 - 07:02 PM

Williams stated he'd like to continue his work WITH George, not FOR George.

Anyone thinking Lucas will have zero involvement in the development of Episode VII: wake up. Please.
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Posted 10 February 2013 - 07:19 PM

It's endearing and just plain nice to hear John speak of this. If he wishes to write for the new movies then I hope he gets to.

Who knows, maybe Star Wars is the one film series he feels quite protective of, considers his own.

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Posted 10 February 2013 - 07:23 PM

Williams stated he'd like to continue his work WITH George, not FOR George.

Anyone thinking Lucas will have zero involvement in the development of Episode VII: wake up. Please.

I guess you're right.  I love this music so much that I probably read too much into his comments.  His involvement might be as minimal as Lucas and he watch a rough cut of the film and bless it and I read his comment as he's clearing his schedule to work on these. 



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Posted 10 February 2013 - 07:24 PM

Obviously, this is far from a done deal, but it's good to at least hear him express some enthusiasm for the project.

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Posted 10 February 2013 - 07:32 PM

On the other hand, if Williams expresses interest in doing at least the 7th one, neither Disney nor Abrams would deny him first choice. I can only imagine the internet shitstorm when the news leaks that the holy John Williams wanted to do a new STAR WARS film very much and is denied this last hurrah just to accomodate some minor executive or director. 


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Posted 10 February 2013 - 07:45 PM

Egos are big in Hollywood, but, in this case, Respect is even bigger. Abrams and Gia are both fans of Williams and respect him. If Williams wants the job, it is his. Quite frankly, I would suppose both Abrams and Gia are rooting for him to do it.

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Posted 10 February 2013 - 07:49 PM

I bet Gia will be secretly gutted when he finds out.

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Posted 10 February 2013 - 07:55 PM

I still maintain JJ's contract includes a Giacchino clause.

 

But you all are welcome to be as bubbly as you like.  You know...maybe after 5 Harry Potter films and a Star Wars one you'll finally learn your lessons. 



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Posted 10 February 2013 - 07:57 PM

Yeah, the fucking JWFan oracle has spoken.

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Posted 10 February 2013 - 07:58 PM

Williams stated he'd like to continue his work WITH George, not FOR George.

Anyone thinking Lucas will have zero involvement in the development of Episode VII: wake up. Please.

 

Sandor, don't be so pathetic. 

 

You know Karelm was paraphrasing a comment he heard last night, so you can't pick WITH or FOR in your argument. 



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Posted 10 February 2013 - 08:02 PM

Come 2015, as with HP, I predict a bunch of upset people here because their interpretations of reality will be crushed. 

 

 

 

 

I think Williams was just being polite as he was with HP.

 

I doubt Dsiney is going to bring JJ Abrams aboard and expect him to have little say over who he hires.



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Posted 10 February 2013 - 08:06 PM

In other words, Michael Giacchino, take cover!


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Posted 10 February 2013 - 08:12 PM

Yeah, the fucking JWFan oracle has spoken.

 

There's no oracleness to it.  It's just logic.  JJ is one of the most powerful producers and directors in Hollywood right now. He was Disney's first choice for this project.  He doesn't need a Star Wars (after all he has Star Trek now), but Disney needs him for Star Wars.  He's also very much an "end to end" producer.  Control freak. 

 

He signed a contract that has Bad Robot displacing much of Lucasfilm's creative role in the Star Wars franchise, and people think he'd forget to add his go to composer for 12 years as a stipulation of that contract? ;)



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Posted 10 February 2013 - 08:16 PM

And you never considered that JJ - a big SW fan himself - possibly WANTS JW to score Episode VII..?
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Posted 10 February 2013 - 08:18 PM

I bet Gia will be secretly gutted when he finds out.

 

I think so too, but whether or not Williams ends up taking this first one, I imagine Giacchino will get his chance eventually. Especially if Star Wars really does go on indefinitely, I can see him being asked for a future sequel or spin-off. Amongst his generation, he's currently the biggest game in town when it comes to this kind of thing.



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Posted 10 February 2013 - 08:21 PM

Yeah, the fucking JWFan oracle has spoken.

 
There's no oracleness to it.  It's just logic.  JJ is one of the most powerful producers and directors in Hollywood right now. He was Disney's first choice for this project.  He doesn't need a Star Wars (after all he has Star Trek now), but Disney needs him for Star Wars.  He's also very much an "end to end" producer.  Control freak. 
 
He signed a contract that has Bad Robot displacing much of Lucasfilm's creative role in the Star Wars franchise, and people think he'd forget to add his go to composer for 12 years as a stipulation of that contract? ;)

I'm pretty much done with Star Wars and its music anyway nowadays, but that doesn't mean I'm gonna be quick-drawing and shooting down the hopes and dreams of fanboys on here just because I like to dress up as Marshall Justice of the Bureau of Internet Truth and wink at myself in the car window reflection before getting in and driving away to the next call out like you do, Blume.

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Posted 10 February 2013 - 08:22 PM

All we can do at this point is hope that he will be able to do it. Each new composition these days is a blessing to cherish.



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Posted 10 February 2013 - 08:23 PM

 

Yeah, the fucking JWFan oracle has spoken.

 
There's no oracleness to it.  It's just logic.  JJ is one of the most powerful producers and directors in Hollywood right now. He was Disney's first choice for this project.  He doesn't need a Star Wars (after all he has Star Trek now), but Disney needs him for Star Wars.  He's also very much an "end to end" producer.  Control freak. 
 
He signed a contract that has Bad Robot displacing much of Lucasfilm's creative role in the Star Wars franchise, and people think he'd forget to add his go to composer for 12 years as a stipulation of that contract? ;)

I'm pretty much done with Star Wars and its music anyway nowadays, but that doesn't mean I'm gonna be quick-drawing and shooting down the hopes and dreams of fanboys on here just because I like to dress up as Marshall Justice of the Bureau of Internet Truth and wink at myself in the car window reflection before getting in and driving away to the next call out like you do, Blume.

 

Is that why you're so loveable friendly and dull lately? ;)

 

Also you forgot my douchey sunglasses that I tilt down to wink at myself. 



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Posted 10 February 2013 - 08:25 PM

Lee always was a bit of a cunt, but lately he has been getting worse and worse.


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Posted 10 February 2013 - 08:26 PM

But I like his avatar, so I look forward to his posts. 



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Posted 10 February 2013 - 08:26 PM

He's probably feeling the same way I do.

 

 

And I apologize if he's not.



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Posted 10 February 2013 - 08:28 PM

He said this stuff for Harry Potter, but that's when he was asked.  He never brought it up on his own, and it was never in front of a crowded audience.  I'm not holding my breath, but it could happen.


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Posted 10 February 2013 - 08:29 PM

Still a looooong way to go before I reach your lowly depths though, Stefan. Oh god, I hope this isn't another precursor to a bombardment of PM "sorrys" from you. Please, just no. Not again.

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Posted 10 February 2013 - 08:43 PM

Hi,
 
Did anyone manage to make it to the YMF Debut concert last night?  Nice to report Maestro looked great and was in top form.  No signs of slowing down I’m happy to say.   He did make this one tantalizing comment before playing the Star Wars theme:
 
“We’re about to play Star Wars [audience interrupts with cheers] and each time we play it, I’m reminded of the first time we played it decades ago.  Neither I, nor George, nor anyone else involved thought this would go far or in a few years there would be a sequel and I’d have to revisit the themes…and years later another trilogy.  Now we’re hearing of a new set of movies coming in 2015, 2016…so I need to make sure I’m still ready to go in a few years for what I hope would be continued work with George…[more cheers].”
 
It seems from the comment he made, he has stated interest in scoring the new films (assuming his stamina and health continues (fingers crossed)).  And second, he might not realize the new films are not directly controlled by Lucas but now in the hands of JJ Abrams.  Do we need to start a letter writing campaign to vocally have JJ Abrams at least give right of first refusal to Williams?  I think it might make a nice passing of the “baton” if JW did the first with Giacchino as understudy to boost some of his skills and really take the place as the heir to JW.  Something Giacchino seems willing but untrained to do.  It is like that whole padawan/master thing in Star Wars.
 
The sold out concert program included two pieces from Hook
 
ET suite
Close Encounters suite
Harry Potter Suite
Hollywood Movie Score selections
Violin suites (Fiddler on the Roof, Schindler's List) with Bing Wang, soloist
Hook (two pieces)
Tintin
Lincoln elegy
Star Wars
 
Encores:
Elegy for cello and strings
Raiders of the Lost Ark
Imperial March

Did the Lincoln elegy seem to be the same as the album cue, or was it an extended version? Either way, that is not the piece I would expect him to perform from the movie. I would like to think that this is evidence that he is going to have a suite of reworked pieces from the movie. Maybe not quite the reworking as with Memoirs, but I am hoping for something along those lines.

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Posted 10 February 2013 - 09:12 PM

It probably was all just in good fun, perhaps even along the lines of "I'll be retired by then anyway". But I'm still convinced that if Williams is in good health and *wants* to do the score, he'll do it.



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Posted 10 February 2013 - 09:28 PM

Yeah, the fucking JWFan oracle has spoken.

 

There's no oracleness to it.  It's just logic.  JJ is one of the most powerful producers and directors in Hollywood right now. He was Disney's first choice for this project.  He doesn't need a Star Wars (after all he has Star Trek now), but Disney needs him for Star Wars.  He's also very much an "end to end" producer.  Control freak. 

 

He signed a contract that has Bad Robot displacing much of Lucasfilm's creative role in the Star Wars franchise, and people think he'd forget to add his go to composer for 12 years as a stipulation of that contract? ;)

 

Have you seen this contract?  Or are you just assuming?  


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Posted 10 February 2013 - 10:25 PM

 

Yeah, the fucking JWFan oracle has spoken.

 

There's no oracleness to it.  It's just logic.  JJ is one of the most powerful producers and directors in Hollywood right now. He was Disney's first choice for this project.  He doesn't need a Star Wars (after all he has Star Trek now), but Disney needs him for Star Wars.  He's also very much an "end to end" producer.  Control freak. 

 

He signed a contract that has Bad Robot displacing much of Lucasfilm's creative role in the Star Wars franchise, and people think he'd forget to add his go to composer for 12 years as a stipulation of that contract? ;)

 

Have you seen this contract?  Or are you just assuming?  

 

There's a third alternative.  I am JJ Abrams. 



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Posted 10 February 2013 - 10:35 PM

Ha!!! I knew it!



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Posted 10 February 2013 - 10:38 PM

No wonder.

Except..... Blume knows more about Star Trek, than Abrams does ;)



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Among all the things I have done in my short and pitiful life, becoming an inside joke on JWFAN is the one I'm the least proud of.

The additional passage was interesting but not really something I would consider absolutely essential.

 


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Posted 10 February 2013 - 10:56 PM

And I want to apologize to karlem for getting this thread out of hand.

 

I just feel we're going to revisit the HP he is or he isn't silliness.

 

When it was obvious to the sane he wasn't.



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Posted 10 February 2013 - 11:04 PM

The big difference between SW and HP is that the director Yates just did not seem like a fan of Williams. Abrams, and his usual go to guy Gia, are. That being said, given Williams's age and, I would add, decreased interest in the blockbuster movie genre, there is no better than a 50% chance he does it even if asked.




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