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    Jilal reacted to Manakin Skywalker in Who all performed on the Return of the Jedi source music?   
    This was an old opinion of mine, I assumed just because they use the same melody they must be from the same cue. However I've come to realize when it comes to source cues in JW's scores, often there'll be a couple that utilize the same overall structure. Take "The Biker Hounds" and "Helicopter" from A.I. for example.
     
    So I'm still a little on the fence, but am leaning more toward the opinion that they might be two separate cues, especially due to the different instrumentation. Also having a GEMA entry titled "Jabba Sail Barge Source" seems to poke a hole into my original belief.
     
    I also had the same assumption about "Ewok Feast" and "Part of the Tribe" which have since leaked as two separate pieces.
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    Jilal got a reaction from Manakin Skywalker in Who all performed on the Return of the Jedi source music?   
    Is this a guess of yours, or is it mentioned somewhere in a film score magazine or liner notes? Definitely sounds like two different cues to me. The instrumentation of the two pieces seems to be a little different, for example. I hear an acoustic drum kit in the one performed at Jabba’s palace, whereas I hear some sort of drum machine in the one performed on the sail barge. Also, the synths used seem to be a little different.
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    Jilal got a reaction from Cerebral Cortex in The Official Strictly Non-Williams Favourite Short Musical Moments Thread™   
    The writing for the horn section is sooo cool here. The strongly dissonant E-F#-G-A-B cluster building up and the flutter-tongueing really help to musically convey the aggression of the wargs on screen.
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    Jilal got a reaction from darkspine10 in The Official Strictly Non-Williams Favourite Short Musical Moments Thread™   
    The writing for the horn section is sooo cool here. The strongly dissonant E-F#-G-A-B cluster building up and the flutter-tongueing really help to musically convey the aggression of the wargs on screen.
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    Jilal reacted to Manakin Skywalker in Who all performed on the Return of the Jedi source music?   
    Here's the part from the doc by the way:
     
     
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    Jilal got a reaction from Holko in Back To The Future: Cue List   
    Back To The Future
    Cue List
    1m1 Logo
    3m1 DeLorean Reveal
    [New] 3m1 DeLorean Reveal
    3m2 Disintegrated Einstein
    [New] 3m2 Disintegrated Einstein
    4m1 85 Twin Pines Mall
    [New] 4m1 85 Twin Pines Mall
    4m2A Ditches DeLorean
    4m2 Peabody & Son
    [New] 4m2x Peabody Barn / Part I
    [New] 4m2Y Peabody Barn Prt. II
    4m4 Town Square
    [New] 4m4 55' Town Square
    5m2 Is That You
    [New] 5m2 Is That You
    6m1 Retrieve DeLorean
    6m2 Jigawatts
    [New] 6m2 Jigawatts
    6m2 Erased from Existence
    7m1 Dream Boat
    [New] 7m1 Dream Boat
    8m4 Skateboard Chase
    [New] 8m4 Skateboard Chase
    9m1 The Letter
    [New] 9m1 The Letter
    10m5 George to the Rescue
    [New] 10m5 George to the Rescue
    10m5BA Reaching for Lorraine
    [New] 10m5BA Reaching for Lorraine
    10m5BB George McFly
    [New] 10m5BB George McFly
    11m2A Earth Angel Overlay A
    [New] 11m2A Earth Angel Overlay A
    11m2B The Kiss
    [New] 11m2B The Kiss
    11m2B Earth Angel Overlay B
    11m4 It's Been Educational
    [New] 11m4 It's Been Educational
    12m0 Clocktower / Part IA
    12m1 Clocktower / Part 2
    [New] 12m1 Clocktower / Part 2
    13m0 Helicopter
    13m1A Lone Pine Mall
    13m1 Lone Pine Mall
    [New] 13m1 Lone Pine Mall
    14m0 4x4
    14m1 Doc Returns
    14m1 Doc Returns
    [New] 14m1 Doc Returns
    Back to the Future
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    Jilal reacted to Sharkissimo in The Official Pop and Rock Music thread   
    While in classical terms that might called a quartal stack, I would approach it from more of a jazz perspective and see it as an Em11 in a quartal arrangement. By 1976 quartal voicings had been widely embedded within the harmonic vernacular of funk, disco and similar jazz-inflected forms of pop, from Donald Fagen of Steely Dan to Nile Rodgers of Chic. 
     
    From Kool & the Gang arranger Ronald "Khalis" Bell's Wikipedia entry:
     
     
    The salient figures here in this quote are Miles Davis and John Coltrane, as it was Bill Evans and later Herbie Hancock with the First and Second Great Miles Davis Quintets (respectively) and McCoy Tyner with the John Coltrane Quartet who were the among the first pianists to introduce quartal-type voicings into what became known as modal jazz. These cats in turn were drawing from earlier innovators like Art Tatum, Duke Ellington, Billie Strayhorn, who together were integral to the formulation of Alex North's own unique language. 
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
    For all of these artists the mother source will always be composers like Ravel, Debussy, Milhaud, and the great quartal boom that stretches roughly from 1910 to 1940.
     
     
     
    Apologies for the excessively didactic info-dump, Jilal. I know you're pretty au fait with this subject already--just couldn't help it.
     
     
     
     
     
     
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    Jilal reacted to Sharkissimo in The Official Pop and Rock Music thread   
    I've been on a Sylvian/Sakamoto/Japan deep-dive for the last few weeks, although I've already been familiar with his music for some years. Mick Karn's singular sound was essentially the reason why I took up fretless (well him and Jaco Pastorius's work on Hejira). There was a time when I found David 'wish-I-Scott-Walker' Sylvian's glutinous voice grating, but I've come to appreciate it, warts and all. Tin Drum might be Japan's masterwork, but Gentlemen Take Polaroids is still the album I revisit most often--Swing in particular. 
     
     
    As much as I love the original, there's something quite magical about this stripped-down performance of Ghosts. 
     
     
    For me, the verses evince more pathos when transposed down a major second and furnished with the uneasy harmonies that were only latent within the original's Prophet-5 drone. You could probably count the number of pop songs that involve a move from the submediant to a Dorian supertonic on one hand. 
     
     
    Hey thanks! I've put it back. It got so few likes that I thought I'd gone overboard, or had simply bitten off more than I could chew.
     
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    Jilal got a reaction from Sharkissimo in The Official Pop and Rock Music thread   
    Might this be an Alex North reference at 0:34, @Sharkissimo? Sure sounds like it, never expected to hear quartal harmony in disco music 
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    Jilal reacted to Smaug The Iron in What is the very best unused JW cue?   
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    Jilal got a reaction from _deleted_ in The Rise of Skywalker - COMPLETE SCORE Discussion - SPOILERS ALLOWED!   
    I couldn't stand the way they tinkered with that cue in the film, moving things all over the place. Not very professional. 
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    Jilal got a reaction from Tiburon in The Rise of Skywalker - COMPLETE SCORE Discussion - SPOILERS ALLOWED!   
    I was surprised to hear the melancholy motif from AOTC's Return to Tatooine return in this film. As an aside, it's one of the bits of music in the prequel trilogy that reminds me a lot of the part of my childhood I spent playing Star Wars video games - I believe it's the background music for one of the often recurring menus in the ROTS video game.
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    Jilal got a reaction from MikeH in The Rise of Skywalker - COMPLETE SCORE Discussion - SPOILERS ALLOWED!   
    I was surprised to hear the melancholy motif from AOTC's Return to Tatooine return in this film. As an aside, it's one of the bits of music in the prequel trilogy that reminds me a lot of the part of my childhood I spent playing Star Wars video games - I believe it's the background music for one of the often recurring menus in the ROTS video game.
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    Jilal got a reaction from His Royal Noelness in The Rise of Skywalker - COMPLETE SCORE Discussion - SPOILERS ALLOWED!   
    I was surprised to hear the melancholy motif from AOTC's Return to Tatooine return in this film. As an aside, it's one of the bits of music in the prequel trilogy that reminds me a lot of the part of my childhood I spent playing Star Wars video games - I believe it's the background music for one of the often recurring menus in the ROTS video game.
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    Jilal got a reaction from DiscmanD131 in The Rise of Skywalker - COMPLETE SCORE Discussion - SPOILERS ALLOWED!   
    I couldn't stand the way they tinkered with that cue in the film, moving things all over the place. Not very professional. 
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    Jilal got a reaction from DiscmanD131 in The Rise of Skywalker - COMPLETE SCORE Discussion - SPOILERS ALLOWED!   
    I was surprised to hear the melancholy motif from AOTC's Return to Tatooine return in this film. As an aside, it's one of the bits of music in the prequel trilogy that reminds me a lot of the part of my childhood I spent playing Star Wars video games - I believe it's the background music for one of the often recurring menus in the ROTS video game.
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    Jilal got a reaction from publicist in What is the last piece of classical music you listened to?   
    I've been listening to Praise Ye from William Walton's cantata Belshazzar's Feast repeatedly this week. Can't get enough of it! There are lots of Williams, Horner and Goldsmith vibes throughout, intermingled with bits reminiscent of Walton's famous coronation march, Crown Imperial.
     
     
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    Jilal got a reaction from SteveMc in What is the last piece of classical music you listened to?   
    I've been listening to Praise Ye from William Walton's cantata Belshazzar's Feast repeatedly this week. Can't get enough of it! There are lots of Williams, Horner and Goldsmith vibes throughout, intermingled with bits reminiscent of Walton's famous coronation march, Crown Imperial.
     
     
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    Jilal got a reaction from Disco Stu in What is the last piece of classical music you listened to?   
    I've been listening to Praise Ye from William Walton's cantata Belshazzar's Feast repeatedly this week. Can't get enough of it! There are lots of Williams, Horner and Goldsmith vibes throughout, intermingled with bits reminiscent of Walton's famous coronation march, Crown Imperial.
     
     
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    Jilal got a reaction from Falstaft in On The Tank (The Last Crusade)   
    The orchestration is actually pretty straightforward here, you can find more of the same style in the more recent Tintin, for example. The whole string section is mainly playing rythmic eighth notes in the first part of the track (sort of a scherzo in 9/8, with a really cool rhythm here which I didn't really "get" until I had a look at the manuscript score). The low strings often double big low brass chords, the high strings double some of the high trumpet lines, there's a bit of high strings and woods playing the dazzling, whirling figures Williams likes to embellish action cues with, most of the strings double the aggressive low brass stabs later in the cue, etc. You might not realize this at first, but the whole thing would sound very empty if you'd take away the strings! They add a lot of color and substance to the whole ensemble.
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    Jilal reacted to Loert in Official JWFan mock ups and fan-made recordings thread!   
    I decided to make a mockup of ROTK's "Lighting the Beacons" this afternoon, as it has been nagging my ear this entire past week (apologies for video resolution):
     
     
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    Jilal got a reaction from Dixon Hill in Intelligence test: What do these stars have in common?   
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    I'm afraid I'm having exams at the moment (in fact I should be practicing some contour integration), and I'm pretty busy studying physics most of the time anyway. I find it to be very challenging and rewarding. I do really wish I had more time to spend studying music theory and composing. Later in life, perhaps.
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    Jilal got a reaction from Glóin the Dark in Intelligence test: What do these stars have in common?   
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    I'm afraid I'm having exams at the moment (in fact I should be practicing some contour integration), and I'm pretty busy studying physics most of the time anyway. I find it to be very challenging and rewarding. I do really wish I had more time to spend studying music theory and composing. Later in life, perhaps.
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