Brundlefly
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I totally agree with you, I don't understand why people would see it on the same level of cinematic artistry as the first film. It's not even close.
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I want Nolan to do a couple of Bonds
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Sounds fantastic, this is, besides Inchon, one of the two Goldsmith scores that I would love to have a re-recording of!
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The brass could have been mixed louder on this specific track on the 2016 release.
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6 hours ago, DangerMotif said:
Dial Of Destiny is the best score this year by miles
Göransson was better and Zimmer will be better probably.
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John Williams' Indiana Jones 5 score was more generic in-film than Lorne Balfe's Mission Impossible 7 score and had waaay less identity than Ludwig Göransson's Oppenheimer.
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On 21/07/2023 at 11:33 PM, Luke Skywalker said:
Just rewatched kotcs today and man, i couldnt believe how young(er) did harrison and Karen look. I wished they had made a trilogy in the 2000-2010s
Or just continuing after '89 making three films in the 90s.
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Just now, crocodile said:
For me:
- The Prestige
- Memento
- The Dark Knight
- Oppenheimer
- Interstellar
- Batman Begins
- Insomnia
- Inception
- Following
- The Dark Knight Rises
- Dunkirk
- Tenet
Karol
Thank you for confirming my accusation of Tenet being "criminally underrated" and The Prestige being "criminally overrated".
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My list won't be very popular, there is a few common misevaluations of his films that really bother me:
- The Dark Knight
- Oppenheimer
- Tenet (criminally underrated, one of his most visionary and innovative and relevant films)
- Interstellar
- The Dark Knight Rises (underrated)
- Memento
- Inception (overrated)
- Insomnia
- Dunkirk
- The Prestige (criminally overrated, mostly based on a simple plot twist)
- Following
- Batman Begins
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9 hours ago, Jay said:
I saw the film last night and I don't know what scene you're referring to
I'm referring to the scene, when Oppenheimer is in front of the little audience cheering at him and celebrating victory? This scene terrified the hell outta me, so that any other horror film can only hide in shame. I remain immensely impressed and stricken by this film after two days.
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8 hours ago, KK said:
Oppenheimer
Perhaps my new favourite Nolan (upstaging The Prestige)? Don't get me wrong, this is a very Nolan film. But at last, I feel that all his classic (and overfamiliar) gimmicks and machinations finally find a synergy that truly serves its characters and subject with some nuance. It's a grandiose, maximalist, super talky character epic of the highest proportions and it works staggeringly well. We see many facets to what Oppenheimer offers as a subject that is torn between being a scientist and a politician, and all the threads that become inevitably tangled around him. And in true Malickian fashion, this is all placed against nothing less than the vast cosmic forces of the universe itself. I've long bemoaned that it's a shame that Nolan might never return to his more intimate dramatic origins, and this does just that, but in larger scope and scale.
Oppenheimer isn't perfect. It's loud and even unwieldy, much like the ego of its subject. But this feels like the work of a more mature Nolan, one that seems to have really interrogated the need for the story he chooses to tell. It is indeed a seminal work in his canon and one of the most arresting biopics I've seen in some time.
The biggest critique that I came out of it with, funny enough, is that it's way too overscored. Too much wall-to-wall music, especially in the first half, that robs some wonderful moments that needed a gentler touch and more breathing room. Ludwig's score follows the Nolan-Zimmer school of barraging the audience with deafening sound, but there were some nice, more extroverted musical moments.
The greatness of this "biopic" is the fact that it is not a classic biopic in the sense that it just puts the most prestigeous stations of a famous person's life on film, going from event to event and then checkboxing it. Nolan is able to grasp on all the complexity that lies within the thematic core of Oppenheimer's story: the tension between science and politics, the abstract discourse about warfare and the concrete suffering of real people, the possibility of creating something and the necessity of creating something. And he uses all these fields of tension to create a disturbing and intense narrative that is ultimately not that easy to break down in a few sentences. I feel incapable to finish a phrase that starts with "This film is about..." and therefore, I can definitely say that Oppenheimer is a great film that demands a lot from the mainstream audience that is flooding in the cinemas, mainly due to the director's name. Tenet had equally relevant questions at its core, but at the same time, it had a thematic clarity (beneath its overpowering surface), a very succinct message about activism - however, Oppenheimer doesn't give us that constructive and motivating outlook. It leaves us disturbed and restless.
There is that one scene that had me react in a way I never had before in cinema. One can easily guess which one I'm refering to, it had me panic in some way, it was unbearable and I felt like I couldn't breathe for a moment. It was the moment, when it became clear - there was something that we completely forgot, that Oppenheimer lost to focus on and that the audience forgot to think of: the human tragedy. From there on, I was thinking, maybe Oppenheimer is a horror film.
Regarding the score, since Dunkirk I kind of respect Nolan's approach as a concept that contradicts my usual ideal of a score being used sparsely to its maximum effect. It seems to work out in Nolan's specific case - I feel like he knows what he is doing and how to use music to bring his point across. In this particular case, I was heavily reminded of John Williams' JFK.
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Wow, I gotta say, the score was very effective in film. It was used in a similar way as John Williams' JFK score - unsettling, underlying and steering the loads of dialogue. The whole movie reminded me a lot of Oliver Stone's JFK - the disturbing montages, the very bitter and relentlessly dark tone (which I didn't expect from Nolan), and of course the thematic core of the story...
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13 hours ago, Luke Skywalker said:
My coworker who is a woman of about 25 has not seen an indiana jones film 😕
Fun ironic fact: i told my parents that i had a discount voucher for the cinema so encouraged them to go to see indy. And they went and watched the jennifer lawrence teenager film instead 🙄
They chose wisely, didn't they? You wouldn't want anyone to watch Rise of Skywalker as their first Star Wars film, would you?
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How is the general resonance of this movie on this forum?
I think that movie was nothing. There is simply nothing positive I can say about it: the mess of story that was leading nowhere, Ford's lukewarm performance, the naive and unfunny script, the generic and chopped-up score, the embarassing references to the older films. It was as much fun as riding a dead horse.
At the end, Indy gets punched in the face for preferring to stay in the past, and then gets dragged back to the present ... well, that punch in the face might be a metaphor for this pathetic movie.
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I watched City Hall two days ago for the very first time.
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45 minutes ago, Naïve Old Fart said:
I am eager to see both, but because they are from Nolan, and Villeneuve, I am approaching both with caution.
No caution needed if they're anywhere near their previous films' quality.
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23 hours ago, Tallguy said:I generally don't like samples. Sometimes I'll listen to know if one of my favorite bits is on a new track but with the score to Sabrina I don't have any favorite bits.
Anakin: "I don't like samples. They're short and brief and arbitrary and they are all over the place."
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HOOK (1991) - NEW! 2023 3-CD Ultimate Edition Produced, Edited, and Mastered by Mike Matessino featuring all Williams/Bricusse songs
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Spectacular! I'll have to wait for JP, TLW, Sabrina and Hook to be available at the same time.
I once edited the cues of the bootleg together and ended up with the exact same track combos. Thankfully, this 3-disc-set makes any bootleg obsolete!