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    Brundlefly got a reaction from Tom Guernsey in Next James Bond actor after Daniel Craig?   
    I agree.
  2. Sleepy
    Brundlefly got a reaction from JTN in Jerry Goldsmith's INCHON (1981) - 2024 Intrada 3-CD Complete   
    Your logic is that you should get a free copy, only if there is little difference between the respective releases. I don't get that in the first place, but nevermind...
     
    You now imply that a new release which is more or less the same as the old release is not desirable, or at least not "desirable for those who already own the 2020 set". I get that.
     
    So, you want to get a free copy of the new release only if/because it is less desirable to you? I mean, why even bother then?
  3. Like
    Brundlefly got a reaction from Mr. Who in 96th Academy Awards (2024 Oscars for 2023 films)   
    Oppenheimer deserved all of these Oscars sooo much! The only thing that bothers me is the fact that it didn't win for the sublime script too.
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    Brundlefly got a reaction from Holko in 96th Academy Awards (2024 Oscars for 2023 films)   
    Oppenheimer deserved all of these Oscars sooo much! The only thing that bothers me is the fact that it didn't win for the sublime script too.
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    Brundlefly got a reaction from CuriousMan in Alan Menken's BEAUTY AND THE BEAST (2018 Disney Legacy Collection)   
    The labels should know that bleeding tracks are a no-go nowadays. The Burbs, Hook and Star Trek: Insurrection are the only scores I know that still have it.
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    Brundlefly reacted to MaxMovieMan in Villeneuve's DUNE   
    I loved what they did with Jessica in the film.
     
     
  7. Like
    Brundlefly got a reaction from Mr. Who in First Impressions: The FILMS of 2024   
    I'm very happy that Dune: Part II got delayed. That way they can give the Oscar to Chrisopher Nolan this year and next year they can give it to Denis Villeneuve.
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    Brundlefly got a reaction from Jay in First Impressions: The FILMS of 2024   
    I'm very happy that Dune: Part II got delayed. That way they can give the Oscar to Chrisopher Nolan this year and next year they can give it to Denis Villeneuve.
  9. Confused
    Brundlefly reacted to SF1_freeze in Villeneuve's DUNE   
    I couldn't disagree more with you on this.
     
    Dune is no where close to the real Sci-Fi or Fantasy epics like Starwars or LotR, because it lacks the basic ingredients that made them great:
    A visually appealing and sprawling technologically advanced galaxy, with different societies, planets and eco-systems, that are shown in a way appropriate to the story. A musical thematic score that covers the whole scope of an epic and not like Dune only includes 2 or 3 themes within a big pot of loud and noisy nondescript action material or just atmospheric background "music" which is more sound design than anything else.  
    The films design and scope only works great on planet Dune/Arrakis themselve (which is of course also the most important part)!
     
    For all other parts (other planets, societs, cities, technology, space travel, space scenes), which a real sci-fi epic should have, Dune failed hard.
    I guess this can't be due to budget, but more due to a lack of vision and design capabilities on Villeneuves part.
    Tell but don't show doesn't work in a sprawling Sci-Fi epic unless you never visit the bigger planets and the more powerful societies.
    But if you do show them, you have to make it convincing not like a small budget indie-film or a low budget TV-show.
     
    Caladan should have big cities, a big space port, industrial areas, civilian live, etc..
    In Villeneuves Dune Caladan is visually completely boring and badly designed. 
    It is shown as an empty planet with a small medieval castle on a rock, with no cities, no civil life and no sense of visual awe and wonder As a viewer from their Home planet it makes no sense that this house could have a powerful army or any influence on the other great houses. Then suddenly they show the Atreides army and ships on a remote landing field again without any buildings, hangars, cities or a space port acommodating them. This makes no sense.  
    The Imperial Homeworld with the Emperors residence is even worse.
    Nothing is shown there, like in a low budget tv show. Only one residence building carefully filmed that you don't see anything away in the distance, like as if they had no budget for any visual effect shots.
    It's feels like a remote small residence complex on a lonely planet without anyone else there.
    This is the opposite of what a real sprawling Sci-Fi epic would do and this undermines Dunes scope in a big way. 
     
    The Harkonnen Homeworld at least shows a big industrial and city complex, but it doesn't feel real and lived in.
    It feels like a big facade so that Villeneuve can do his artsy cinematography.
    You never have the impression that anyone could really live there or that there is any civil life or society there, that would make any sense.
     
  10. Like
    Brundlefly reacted to MaxMovieMan in Villeneuve's DUNE   
    Just got out of the theater. What a trip. Honestly this is the kind of film I’ve been waiting for. Sci-fi on an epic scale that actually has deep, meaningful messages and thoughts. The novel of Dune has some excellent philosophy on the dangers of messiahs and Denis chose to focus on that aspect. As opposed to following the book one-for-one he took the plot of the novel and developed it to follow this message. Messianic figures can sway the way of history. It’s been proven time and time again in our own world and the message is just as important now as it was when Herbert first wrote the novel. These figures are powerful and with that power comes consequences.
     
    The film itself as a movie experience goes was miles ahead of Part One. Way more action, a solid three-act structure, better characters, more intrigue, and overall a more engaging narrative. There was also a lot of much needed levity. The humor mostly came from Javier Bardem as Stilgar (My personal favorite character) and while it wasn’t overplayed (As it would be in a Marvel film) it definitely brought a balance to the darkness of the picture. This is a dark and depressing film. The ending is not happy and overall I would call the film a tragedy. There is an unavoidable outcome and it’s painful to see it slowly unfold. Another thing improved over the first film are the villains. I liked what they did with Raban and Austin Butler’s new character Feyd Rautha was a scene stealer. Rebecca Ferguson’s Jessica became way more interesting this time around as well as Paul himself. Chalamet steps up to the plate as a messianic hero. Zendaya’s character Chani after getting built up so much in the last movie actually turned out to be a great addition. She’s kind and gentle but also extremely badass and independent when need be. The special effects and sound design are out of this world as expected and Greg Fraser continues to prove he’s one of the best working cinematographers right now. Every frame could be a wall paper.
     
    The music I loved. I loved the score in the first one and I love the score even more here. It works absolute magic in the film and my favorite cue, “Southern Messiah,” ended up playing in the most perfect way possible. Lots of unreleased cues and the new motif that I thought was for the emperor turns out to be for something much more sinister; the Kwisatz Haderach.
     
    I heard there were a few major changes from the book so I went in expecting this. However every single change I think benefited this version of the Dune story. I personally loved that Denis adapted this work for the modern times by making Chani not so one-note and really delving into the dangers of Paul and what he means. Compare this film to Lynch’s where Paul is akin to Luke Skywalker. Here Paul is portrayed for what he is. My favorite kind of storytelling is that of fallen heroes. Death Note, Attack on Titan, and Breaking Bad are excellent examples of this. We haven’t had a great epic film to portray this sort of tale on a massive scale since the Godfather films. Now Dune has brought it back. I think it’s truly important for audiences to see that “heroic” characters are not always heroic to all sides and that there are consequences to radical belief. So I’m so glad we have films like this that show the two sides of the coin (Or rather that there are no sides). The Reverend Mother says so herself. Oh and there is one big change to a certain character from the book but I think it was for the best. It would’ve been unfilmable in my opinion.
     
    This movie cements both parts of Dune as all-time great sci-fi films and also as a whole with both movies combined I would say this becomes an all-time epic in general. I don’t think Denis could’ve done a better job with this and this is definitely his magnum opus. Dune: Messiah will be very interesting because the ending of this film leaves one major plot thread in a different place than the books. This plot thread is literally the driving force of Dune Messiah so I honestly don’t know how they would even adapt the book without completely changing the plot. I think what Denis did with the change was better than the book’s ending but Dune Messiah hinges on this thing that Denis changed. Who knows. For now we have two films that are for sci-fi what Lord of the Rings was for fantasy.
     
    My favorite part of the film was actually just a line:
     
  11. Like
    Brundlefly got a reaction from Yavar Moradi in Jerry Goldsmith's INCHON (1981) - 2024 Intrada 3-CD Complete   
    Your logic is that you should get a free copy, only if there is little difference between the respective releases. I don't get that in the first place, but nevermind...
     
    You now imply that a new release which is more or less the same as the old release is not desirable, or at least not "desirable for those who already own the 2020 set". I get that.
     
    So, you want to get a free copy of the new release only if/because it is less desirable to you? I mean, why even bother then?
  12. Like
    Brundlefly got a reaction from ThePenitentMan1 in Jerry Goldsmith's INCHON (1981) - 2024 Intrada 3-CD Complete   
    As one of the most vociferous critics of Intrada on this forum, I have to agree with @Yavar Moradi here. Of course any implication that it is just a sly strategy to hold back the definitive version of a score in order to make collectors buy more than one of their releases is pure madness. This is what these labels do, they produce the best sounding and most comprehensive release that is possible, depending on the source material and restoration techniques that is available at the time. So, how does it matter, whether the current release is just a slight or a considerable improvement on the prior release? Any complaint from collectors in one of these cases (which there are plenty of) comes from their desire to own the best sounding version available. There is simply no reproach to make towards the labels.
     
    The claim of a free copy is not completely incomprehensible to me (after all, I wrote something like that in this thread), but you can't really be serious to expect Intrada to do that without suffering grave economical disadvantages from it. Next question would be: where to draw the line? Should we all get a free copy of the new Hook, in case we have bought the 2012 release? I'm sure any of the special labels would send out all of their releases to anyone who wants them for free if at the same time it would be raining 100 dollar bills at their warehouses, but that won't happen.
     
    However, if one of these labels produces something that is lacking in any way, although the source material and restoration techniques they have access to would have allowed for a more definitive release, you can indeed criticize that. That's basically what I do. To me, the 2020 version becomes obsolete now, mainly due to its shortcomings. The improvement between the 2020 and the 2024 release might be bigger than it should have been if they had done a more meticulous work back then.
  13. Haha
    Brundlefly reacted to Trope in Jerry Goldsmith's INCHON (1981) - 2024 Intrada 3-CD Complete   
    I think to summarise this debate, we can reflect on the duality of man, and say that while Yavar and Marian have convinced our minds with their objective analysis, astute observations, and cold logic, JTW has won our hearts as a victim of the money-hungry music market which, if allowed free reign, will suck every last penny from the pockets of loyal customers. 
  14. Like
    Brundlefly got a reaction from enderdrag64 in Jerry Goldsmith's INCHON (1981) - 2024 Intrada 3-CD Complete   
    As one of the most vociferous critics of Intrada on this forum, I have to agree with @Yavar Moradi here. Of course any implication that it is just a sly strategy to hold back the definitive version of a score in order to make collectors buy more than one of their releases is pure madness. This is what these labels do, they produce the best sounding and most comprehensive release that is possible, depending on the source material and restoration techniques that is available at the time. So, how does it matter, whether the current release is just a slight or a considerable improvement on the prior release? Any complaint from collectors in one of these cases (which there are plenty of) comes from their desire to own the best sounding version available. There is simply no reproach to make towards the labels.
     
    The claim of a free copy is not completely incomprehensible to me (after all, I wrote something like that in this thread), but you can't really be serious to expect Intrada to do that without suffering grave economical disadvantages from it. Next question would be: where to draw the line? Should we all get a free copy of the new Hook, in case we have bought the 2012 release? I'm sure any of the special labels would send out all of their releases to anyone who wants them for free if at the same time it would be raining 100 dollar bills at their warehouses, but that won't happen.
     
    However, if one of these labels produces something that is lacking in any way, although the source material and restoration techniques they have access to would have allowed for a more definitive release, you can indeed criticize that. That's basically what I do. To me, the 2020 version becomes obsolete now, mainly due to its shortcomings. The improvement between the 2020 and the 2024 release might be bigger than it should have been if they had done a more meticulous work back then.
  15. Thanks
    Brundlefly got a reaction from Yavar Moradi in Jerry Goldsmith's INCHON (1981) - 2024 Intrada 3-CD Complete   
    As one of the most vociferous critics of Intrada on this forum, I have to agree with @Yavar Moradi here. Of course any implication that it is just a sly strategy to hold back the definitive version of a score in order to make collectors buy more than one of their releases is pure madness. This is what these labels do, they produce the best sounding and most comprehensive release that is possible, depending on the source material and restoration techniques that is available at the time. So, how does it matter, whether the current release is just a slight or a considerable improvement on the prior release? Any complaint from collectors in one of these cases (which there are plenty of) comes from their desire to own the best sounding version available. There is simply no reproach to make towards the labels.
     
    The claim of a free copy is not completely incomprehensible to me (after all, I wrote something like that in this thread), but you can't really be serious to expect Intrada to do that without suffering grave economical disadvantages from it. Next question would be: where to draw the line? Should we all get a free copy of the new Hook, in case we have bought the 2012 release? I'm sure any of the special labels would send out all of their releases to anyone who wants them for free if at the same time it would be raining 100 dollar bills at their warehouses, but that won't happen.
     
    However, if one of these labels produces something that is lacking in any way, although the source material and restoration techniques they have access to would have allowed for a more definitive release, you can indeed criticize that. That's basically what I do. To me, the 2020 version becomes obsolete now, mainly due to its shortcomings. The improvement between the 2020 and the 2024 release might be bigger than it should have been if they had done a more meticulous work back then.
  16. Like
    Brundlefly reacted to Richard Penna in Jerry Goldsmith's INCHON (1981) - 2024 Intrada 3-CD Complete   
    Indeed, and I'd suggest that any time a label decides to bring a score back into print, they have a pretty horrible decsion to make. Do they take the opportunity to make some improvements, or ignore those improvements to avoid pissing off all of their prior customers. I'd actually suggest there's no winning in this situation, and it's a direct result of technology improving and the ability to locate the best elements changes day by day.
     
    Clearly in this case Intrada made a mistake of a scope we don't have enough information to truly know, and I suspect that the more extreme reactions are an unfortunate side effect of not being in a position to buy this new one. However, a person's situation with disposable income doesn't make this any different from multiple improved reissues where a label thought they had previously done the 'definitive' version.
     
    And yes, where criticism is warranted, like you I will call them out, such as the recent comments on editorial mistakes and where some producers may lack refined skills. However, if we want the labels to continue as a profitable business in this unbelievably specialist market, with materials that aren't just there on a hard drive, sometimes the situation just... sucks.
  17. Like
    Brundlefly got a reaction from Richard Penna in Jerry Goldsmith's INCHON (1981) - 2024 Intrada 3-CD Complete   
    As one of the most vociferous critics of Intrada on this forum, I have to agree with @Yavar Moradi here. Of course any implication that it is just a sly strategy to hold back the definitive version of a score in order to make collectors buy more than one of their releases is pure madness. This is what these labels do, they produce the best sounding and most comprehensive release that is possible, depending on the source material and restoration techniques that is available at the time. So, how does it matter, whether the current release is just a slight or a considerable improvement on the prior release? Any complaint from collectors in one of these cases (which there are plenty of) comes from their desire to own the best sounding version available. There is simply no reproach to make towards the labels.
     
    The claim of a free copy is not completely incomprehensible to me (after all, I wrote something like that in this thread), but you can't really be serious to expect Intrada to do that without suffering grave economical disadvantages from it. Next question would be: where to draw the line? Should we all get a free copy of the new Hook, in case we have bought the 2012 release? I'm sure any of the special labels would send out all of their releases to anyone who wants them for free if at the same time it would be raining 100 dollar bills at their warehouses, but that won't happen.
     
    However, if one of these labels produces something that is lacking in any way, although the source material and restoration techniques they have access to would have allowed for a more definitive release, you can indeed criticize that. That's basically what I do. To me, the 2020 version becomes obsolete now, mainly due to its shortcomings. The improvement between the 2020 and the 2024 release might be bigger than it should have been if they had done a more meticulous work back then.
  18. Haha
    Brundlefly reacted to Bespin in Jerry Goldsmith's INCHON (1981) - 2024 Intrada 3-CD Complete   
    I think Intrada should offer us a monthly subscription plan so that we can subscribe to 'Inchon'. This way, each year, we could receive the latest edition.
  19. Thanks
    Brundlefly reacted to Chris Malone in Jerry Goldsmith's INCHON (1981) - 2024 Intrada 3-CD Complete   
    Hi Everyone! Having just checked the DDP—which is the package of data sent for CD manufacturing and is unalterable from the point it is packaged—there are no clicks present in this cue.
     
    There were clicks, however these were removed prior to this step.
     
    The Intrada website samples may not necessarily reflect the final data.
     
    Chris
  20. Surprised
    Brundlefly got a reaction from JTN in Jerry Goldsmith's INCHON (1981) - 2024 Intrada 3-CD Complete   
    In the sample of "The Apology" I can hear the infamous digital clicking noises. Anyone else hear them (from 0:27 to 0:39 in the sample)? This is the same kind of clicks that they had on numerous releases in the past which is clearly not something that was in the source material all along. Are they serious? Again? They let this happen again?
  21. Love
    Brundlefly got a reaction from JTN in Jerry Goldsmith's INCHON (1981) - 2024 Intrada 3-CD Complete   
    The samples sound very well, some tracks are a noticable improvement. Still, I think of this more as a fix than a new release. People who bought the 2020 version should get a free copy.
  22. Like
    Brundlefly got a reaction from Trope in Jerry Goldsmith's INCHON (1981) - 2024 Intrada 3-CD Complete   
    The samples sound very well, some tracks are a noticable improvement. Still, I think of this more as a fix than a new release. People who bought the 2020 version should get a free copy.
  23. Like
    Brundlefly reacted to A. A. Ron in Jerry Goldsmith's INCHON (1981) - 2024 Intrada 3-CD Complete   
    In brief, the Intrada album suffers from:
     
    - A controversial and weirdly inconsistent new mix that brings some instruments forward at the expense of others that got reduced or maybe even outright omitted
    - Multiple seconds of phasing where they edited between takes on "Night Boarders"
    - Some nasty static near the end of "The Camel Race"
    - Volume fluctuations within tracks and non-matching volume levels between the expanded program on Disc 1 and the OST on Disc 2
    - Misspelled track titles
    - Intrada's usual poorly done artwork
     
    But the gravest sin is that they included tracked music in the main program, notably in "Airplane Fight" and the film version of the End Credits. Goldsmith's superior intended version of the latter cue absolutely should have closed out the main program.
     
    As far as Inchon goes, I mostly just listen to the suite from Tadlow’s Blue Max album.
  24. Like
    Brundlefly reacted to Trope in Jerry Goldsmith's INCHON (1981) - 2024 Intrada 3-CD Complete   
    The more I hear about these mistakes on Intrada releases I came very close to purchasing, the more concerned I become about their upcoming releases. Maybe they should stick to releasing niche Goldsmith scores over and over again, and leave important scores by him and other major composers (Williams, Horner, Elfman, etc.) to La-La Land and Quartet, who seem to know what they’re doing. 
     
    Oh, and Varèse can go bankrupt as far as I’m concerned. Maybe they could even sell their catalogue off to LLL and make life easier for the rest of us!
  25. Like
    Brundlefly got a reaction from Tydirium in Jerry Goldsmith's INCHON (1981) - 2024 Intrada 3-CD Complete   
    As insightful as this text is (I mean, they admit that they could have been more meticulous), having bought the highly deficient 2020 release I feel a little annoyed now.
     
    This one really has to be the perfect release, absolutely complete, consistent volume, no clicks and a clear step up in sound - anything else would be galling.
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