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Andor is amazing, one of the best shows of 2022

It was a pretty bad show

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Wasn't it revealed that she never worked "with" him, just on the same project?

Graham Foote (and his ensemble) did the vocals for "Living in The Age of Airplanes", and then the "Pandora" attraction music, but he did NOT work on Horner's Avatar score in 2009. 

The vocalists who carried over from the 2009 Horner score are Clydene Jackson, Terry Wood (you see them in the behind-the-scenes material on the Blu-ray) along with Carmen Twillie and Lisbeth Scott (Scott also performed on Amazing Spider-Man as well)
 

 

Wouldn’t it be awesome if JW revisited some of his older works and re-recorded them in pristine sound?  Especially scores where the material is lost or badly damaged.  

Well then it's almost certain that the next expansion is going to be a 23-disc box set released by Walt Disney Records. 

Sure I am but a couple more cues wouldn’t hurt. In this age of digital downloads wouldn’t be hard. Think Simon knows there’s def demand for more.

Full episode breakdown + I added where Horner is heard and where Howard is heard in Rodzinski's music
 
Episode 1
 
Episode 2
 
Episode 3
 
Episode 4
 
Episode 5
 
Episode 6
 
Episode 7
 
Episode 8
 

This is a truly terrific set, really enjoying the main programme now nicely fleshed out by previously unreleased/unheard material. It sounds so much better than the old album as well. Terrific stuff. I hope we get the second one as well.
 
Karol

At least it's good that he knows people want to hear more of his music. 

Loved the score in the film - I thought it had great presence. The orchestral colours shine through magnificently. From the opening credits to the final despair, wonderful Shoreian bleakness.
 
As Doug Adams has suggested the film uses some of the rejected King Kong score, I wonder if this piece was the love theme for the Jackson epic. It would not sound out of place (and most of the other material is familiar - but still suitably dissimilar - from Silence of the Lambs, Smaug, The Score - however, I cannot place this theme elsewhere in Shore's catalogue):
 

As someone who hates all 3D but loves seeing classic films with an audience when possible, I’d love it if there were also 2D screenings

Just saw the film. I thought it was very very good. I saw the first 'twist' coming. But that 2nd one was beautiful and unexpected.
 
 
And as said above Shore's music is tremendous and really elevates the film. It's never in your face and truly helps bring you fully in the world of the film, which I loved.
I also appreciate the score on album a lot more now and especially the different themes. Wonderful stuff

I genuinely loved the film, and highly recommend it! I went in with an expectation level of 0, and found it to be quite thrilling - I did not predict any of the story twists! Jay is right: the score suits the film perfectly, adding to an already strong atmosphere. I also didn't notice much of the music watching first-time through (as I was wrapped up in the plot and characters), but I thought the spotting was well done, leaving several moments without score to heighten the effect when the music enters. Upon my second viewing, I enjoyed the film even more and picked up on a couple of musical themes. I like Shore in thriller mode: lots of dark orchestral colours and several beautiful moments too (for one character in particular).

I genuinely loved the film, and highly recommend it! I went in with an expectation level of 0, and found it to be quite thrilling - I did not predict any of the story twists! Jay is right: the score suits the film perfectly, adding to an already strong atmosphere. I also didn't notice much of the music watching first-time through (as I was wrapped up in the plot and characters), but I thought the spotting was well done, leaving several moments without score to heighten the effect when the music enters. Upon my second viewing, I enjoyed the film even more and picked up on a couple of musical themes. I like Shore in thriller mode: lots of dark orchestral colours and several beautiful moments too (for one character in particular).

I asked Xander Rodzinski about the Castle Fight from Ep. 1 of Willow his response was the following:

"I did in fact write the Castle fight cue in ep 1, and I’m sneaking it into the middle of Volume 3. I abridged it a bit because I reused and reworked a bit of its material in the Sled chase in episode 7 that I think ended up being better, but I still have a five minute version.
I snooped around a bit and saw some people discussing this which is why I decided to put it on the album. I had already turned in album 2, so I had to stick it on 3. I’m very touched people enjoyed that chunk of music because I felt like I could barely hear it in the final mix of the show. Volume 3 comes out the 13th I believe by the way."
 
To be sure I asked if both the cues from Ep. 1 & Ep. 7 would be on the album. He said the following:
 
"Both will be on there because I cut out the overlapping material"
 
So great news!!!

Harry Potter set

Whether or not Shore wrote the theme is irrelevant to me: it’s a bloody cool tune. To say it refers to the Misty Mountains just because they’re mentioned in one of the verses is missing the point. It’s clearly for the company, and it should have been maintained.

Series based on the art of Ralph McQuarrie.
 

 

 

 
Alternates:

It's a fantastic score and it really tells the story through music. As a huge fan of the Titanic score I also love the titanicisms towards the end of the score, especially in Bad Parents (I think that's the cue) where the metal percussion, the choir and the snare drums etc all just work so well. I also think that the choir motif that appears in this cue plus I think Navi Attack feels a bit like Death of Titanic, when the ship is really going down.
 
I checked Franglen's spotify page and he now has over 7 million listeners which is really impressive compared to other film composers (Zimmer, Williams and Shore are in a league of their own listener's wise) but Franglen has gained a crazy amount of listeners in a really short time so the score is clearly connecting with people. I can't wait to hear what he does next, both in the Avatar sequels, and in any other movie or show he might be working on. Cameron really made the right choice in giving him the job and Franglen describes the process of getting the job in the 1 hour interview.

Yes, roughly the first 16 seconds of 1-04 are 2M3 Alternate Beginning. 2-12 has a different take of 2M3 Alternate Beginning with a solo E-flat clarinet in place of the piccolo (0:00-0:16), but also retains the bars the insert was meant to replace (0:16-0:26).

So, E.T. appears to have had a number of planned album tracks that were never used. I recently noticed a number of cues in John Williams' original sketches are marked 'In Album', but aren't actually heard on the 1982 album as it was released.
 

 
The cues with these 'Album' indications are:
 
1M1 Revised - The Forest (the only one on the list actually on the OST)
2M3 Alternate Beginning (with an indication to segue to bar 5 of 2M3)
3M2 Meeting E.T.
5M2 E.T. Raids The Icebox (with an indication to overlap the downbeat of bar 54 with bar 43 of 5M5)
5M5 E.T. Gets An Idea
9M1 Keyes Enters The House
10M1 He Came To Me (with an indication to segue to 9M1 at the end)
 
I've reconstructed the two cue combinations:
 
E.T. Raids the Icebox and E.T. Gets An Idea
He Came To Me and Keyes Enters The House
 
So, I wonder what the story is here? The LP is already about 40 minutes, so there wouldn't have been enough space for its current contents plus all these other cues. Could a double LP have been considered? Or maybe these were planned before the unique OST arrangements were created? Who knows...

A quick OST breakdown:
 
01 Main Title (The Godfather Waltz)
D1T1 Main Title, Corleone Waltz #1 0:00-0:38 (so just the Main Title part) D1T30 Main Title (alternate) D1T23 Too Little Time 02 I Have But One Heart
 
03 The Pickup
D1T13 The Pickup (extended version) 0:00-2:56 (faded out early) 04 Connie's Wedding
A different partial take and mix of D2T14 The Godfather Tarantella A different partial take and mix of D2T15 The Godfather Mazurka background noise/dialogue over it, removed in D2T19 Connie's Wedding (Music Only) 05 The Halls of Fear
D1T1 Main Title, Corleone Waltz #1 0:00-0:38 (so just the Main Title part) D1T9 The Halls of Fear (Extended version) 1:01-1:39 D1T9 The Halls of Fear (Extended version) 3:01-3:55 (faded out early) 06 Sicilian Pastorale
D1T15 Sicilian Pastorale 07 Love Theme from The Godfather
Love Theme from The Godfather (Film Version) (with added percussion and choir) An ending extension for guitar/mandolin? and choir 08 The Godfather Waltz
D1T1 Main Title, Corleone Waltz #1 0:00-0:38 (so just the Main Title part) D1T27 Corleone Waltz #3 D1T1 Main Title, Corleone Waltz #1 0:38-1:20 (so just the Corleone Waltz #1 part) D1T17 Corleone Waltz #2 (faded out early) 09 Apollonia
D1T18 Apollonia 10 The New Godfather
D1T21 Marry Me, Kay D1T26 The New Godfather (Film Version) 11 The Baptism
D1T24 The Baptism (Extended Version) 3:07-4:58 (faded out early) 12 The Godfather Finale
A third take of End Credits, with the structure following D1T36 End Credits (alternate) (with the big love theme statement in the middle not edited out), but with added choir and accordion.

The Underwater theme kind of acts as a Metkayina theme as well in some scenes. I think Simon calls it the "Return of the Tulkun Theme" on twitter but he might be talking about a different theme. He said that this one plus the Payakan theme are probably his favorites from the score.
 
The Metkayina Clan theme that I mentioned is played at: 1:46 by the horn in 'Sanctuary', and is played briefly by the piano at: 3:22 by the piano in 'Into the Water'. I don't know if it appears in more cues in the movie but I haven't noticed it in any other OST cues than these two. This could potentially be a location theme for the main village (Awa'atlu) and less a theme for the clan but it’s difficult to say.
 
I hope Franglen publishes a thematic guide with the official theme names someday, for the complete 4CD LLL release they are hopefully working on 😬