Titanic - 2023 theatrical re-release (HFR & 3D)

[Jay 43,909]

The film will be back in theaters on February 10th as a 25th anniversary reissue (even though the 25th anniversary was 2022)

 

 

 

 

[DangerMotif 1,293]

The 4K bluray is supposed to come out in 2023 also

[Holko 11,676]

What the hell is that poster

Just now, Gibster said:

The 4K bluray is supposed to come out in 2023 also

Great, I hope it's made even more teal so the nice white walls are totally green and the ideal blue skies are sickly and weird. And hope he expands it into 4:3 this time.

[leeallen01 2,223]

I'd like to see it in black and white. Might add a fresh visual perspective.

[Tallguy 6,195]

33 minutes ago, Jay said:

even though the 25th anniversary was 2022

 

I'm sure I saw it again in February of 1998. I saw it a bunch.

 

But seriously, it was January and February where the money started to get ridiculous. I forget how many weeks in a row where the box office went UP week over week.

 

Man. 1998 seems late but I still bought that movie on VHS. (Why not laser disc, I wonder?) I guess I didn't get a DVD player until 1999.

[Jay 43,909]

Yea I feel like everyone had that double-VHS edition.  Including lots of ladies in my college dorm

[Disco Stu 15,514]

I know I got my first DVD player for Christmas 2002.  I know because I got it specifically so I could watch Fellowship of the Ring Extended Edition  

 

And yes of course we had the Titanic double VHS

[Disco Stu 15,514]

"In celebration of its 25th anniversary, a remastered version of James Cameron’s multi-Academy Award®-winning “Titanic” will be re-released to theaters in 3D 4K HDR and high-frame rate"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oHY7D7K58BM

 

 

Can anyone explain to me how you can show a movie in high-frame rate when that movie was shot on film at 24 frames per second?  Like... isn't it by definition limited to the 24 actual physical film frames that were captured for every second?

[Jay 43,909]

Yup!  They fake new in-between frames with computers!  It's similar to how they fake 3D for films shot in 2D

[Disco Stu 15,514]

I dunno, at least with 3d post-conversion it's just altering the images that already exist.  Creating completely new frames in between the existing ones??  Sounds expensive and like it probably isn't very good.

[Jay 43,909]

It's basically the same thing that stupid setting modern TVs have that everyone should turn off.  But with James Cameron supervising this one, it probably won't look like a soap opera like most things do with that TV setting turned on

 

It probably will still be a pointless exercise, though

[Marian Schedenig 10,848]

25 minutes ago, Disco Stu said:

Can anyone explain to me how you can show a movie in high-frame rate when that movie was shot on film at 24 frames per second?  Like... isn't it by definition limited to the 24 actual physical film frames that were captured for every second?

 

TVs have been doing that since the days of 100Hz CRTs, back when I really have no idea how the technology of the day could do that (and live, too). Today you probably just have to grab some random interpolation algorithm from some library.

 

15 minutes ago, Jay said:

Yup!  They fake new in-between frames with computers!  It's similar to how they fake 3D for films shot in 2D

 

But fake 3D usually looks ok to me. I expect there's some manual step (helped, no doubt, by tons of automated heuristics) to define the depth information for each image/scene.

 

But frame interpolation has always looked horribly fake and distracting, and not just because of the human brain being used to films running at a lousy 24 fps (as opposed to TV, for example).

[Jurassic Shark 15,567]

29 minutes ago, Disco Stu said:

Can anyone explain to me how you can show a movie in high-frame rate when that movie was shot on film at 24 frames per second?  Like... isn't it by definition limited to the 24 actual physical film frames that were captured for every second?

 

Double the speed, with the added bonus of a thankful bladder.

[Jay 43,909]

On 10/01/2023 at 4:36 PM, Marian Schedenig said:

But fake 3D usually looks ok to me. I expect there's some manual step (helped, no doubt, by tons of automated heuristics) to define the depth information for each image/scene.

 

But frame interpolation has always looked horribly fake and distracting, and not just because of the human brain being used to films running at a lousy 24 fps (as opposed to TV, for example).

 

Don't get me wrong, I'm not expecting it to look good or be worth it, I was just explaining what it is

[Jurassic Shark 15,567]

It's super easy, barely an inconvenience.

[Henry Janislaus Feigensand 587]

love the „new“ poster. 

[LSH 1,098]

5 hours ago, Jay said:

 

What on Earth is going on with Kate's hair?

[Tallguy 6,195]

Wait, 3D? Ewwwwww.

[Richard P 4,952]

The 3D bit isn't new - Cameron had it converted years ago. As far as conversion jobs go it was done exceptionally well.

[The Score Cleaner 8,493]

17 minutes ago, LSH said:

 

What on Earth is going on with Kate's hair?

It's come undone on one side?

[Mr. Who 1,032]

28 minutes ago, Richard Penna said:

The 3D bit isn't new - Cameron had it converted years ago. As far as conversion jobs go it was done exceptionally well.

I saw it in 3D in 2012 and I was really impressed with the conversion. A lot of thought had gone into how to utilize the 3D from what I remember.

[Disco Stu 15,514]

As someone who hates all 3D but loves seeing classic films with an audience when possible, I’d love it if there were also 2D screenings

[NL197 648]

Yeah it was done for the 100th anniversary of the actual event, and released April 2012 theatrically. It hit Blu-ray in September of 2012 with the open-matte 3D conversion spreading two discs, the remastered Cinemascope on a single disc, and a fourth disc of bonus features. 

 

To date the Blu-ray (both 3D and 2D transfers) are still razor-sharp and stunning (as in they still hold up in the decade since). It's the revisionist color changes that taint it. 

[Naïve Old Fart 12,157]

I'd like to see you try it.

[Naïve Old Fart 12,157]

19 hours ago, leeallen01 said:

I'd like to see it in black and white. Might add a fresh visual perspective.

Just turn the colour down, on your telly. It's what I do. MINORITY REPORT in black and white, is very effective.

[karelm 3,236]

17 hours ago, Disco Stu said:

I dunno, at least with 3d post-conversion it's just altering the images that already exist.  Creating completely new frames in between the existing ones??  Sounds expensive and like it probably isn't very good.

 

I do it all the time.  There are AI upscalers that can take frames and guess what would be between to make it 60 fps or higher resolution.  They do the same for resolution upscalers where it guesses between pixels.  For this flyby of Jupiter, I upscaled it and made it 60fps.  The clip I downloaded was jumpy (maybe 15 or 20 fps) so the AI guessed between the frames for smoother final result.  My upscaler is just a low cost option, I'm sure Jim Cameron would be using Peter Jackson's multi-million dollar technology.

[1977 1,903]

17 hours ago, Clockwork Angel said:

It's come undone on one side?

 

It's the same as on the original poster, it's just uncropped.

 

 

I quite like the negative space on the new poster, I see a custom score cover in my future 🙂

[mrbellamy 7,623]

22 hours ago, Tallguy said:

I'm sure I saw it again in February of 1998. I saw it a bunch.

 

But seriously, it was January and February where the money started to get ridiculous. I forget how many weeks in a row where the box office went UP week over week.

 

Yeah technically we're closer to its 25th anniversary now than most of 2022 would be

[1977 1,903]

13 hours ago, NL197 said:

It's the revisionist color changes that taint it. 

 

I wonder if one can purchase glasses with tinting that removes revisionist colour timing. Perhaps with an EDI link to an online database with preset auto-calibration data for individual film releases.

[JoeinAR 1,955]

I want to see it. Looks like it might be good. I sure hope the ship doesn't sink.  

I hope they seat us in the theatre by class...

[LSH 1,098]

17 hours ago, Clockwork Angel said:

It's come undone on one side?

 

But it's made from this photo...

 

 

[mrbellamy 7,623]

11 minutes ago, JoeinAR said:

I want to see it. Looks like it might be good. I sure hope the ship doesn't sink.  

I hope they seat us in the theatre by class...

 

I hope it's not too crowded!

[Naïve Old Fart 12,157]

Half the people reading this won't see it.

[Not Mr. Big 4,852]

I've already seen it in 3D and nowhere does HFR

[Mr. Who 1,032]

35 minutes ago, Naïve Old Fart said:

Half the people reading this won't see it.

Not the better half…

[leeallen01 2,223]

Well, if some of you end up seeing the re-release, I hope you enjoy your time together.

[Naïve Old Fart 12,157]

It'll clean up, at the box office, so that's AVATAR 3 paid for.

[MrJosh 1,007]

Hoping for a 1D LFR presentation for the 30th Anniversary. 

[Tallguy 6,195]

20 minutes ago, MrJosh said:

Hoping for a 1D LFR presentation for the 30th Anniversary. 

 

That's over the line. 

[JoeinAR 1,955]

1 hour ago, Naïve Old Fart said:

Half the people reading this won't see it.

Not the better half

[bollemanneke 4,138]

3 hours ago, JoeinAR said:

I want to see it. Looks like it might be good. I sure hope the ship doesn't sink.  

I hope they seat us in the theatre by class...

You unimaginable bastard. God himself couldn't sink this ship.

[Naïve Old Fart 12,157]

I've heard it's the extended cut; 4 hours.

 

 

 

 

2 hours ago, Tallguy said:

That's over the line. 

[Nick1Ø66 7,222]

This thread…it’s almost like Drax is back. 😢

 

I’ll never let go.

[Jay 43,909]

Who?

[1977 1,903]

4 hours ago, LSH said:

 

But it's made from this photo...

 

 

 

That was from before she met Jack 

[Mr. Who 1,032]

30 minutes ago, Naïve Old Fart said:

I've heard it's the extended cut; 4 hours.

 

 

 

 

There are tons of deleted scenes. I wonder why Cameron hasn’t made an extended cut (excluding the alternate ending though which doesn’t really fit with the rest of the movie).

 

From the deleted scenes I thought that the fabrizio storyline was a nice addition though but I get why it was cut.

[bollemanneke 4,138]

There's a fan edit that does exactly that: add them all except alt ending.

[leeallen01 2,223]

I've heard there's an alternate cut floating around. The iceberg apparently didn't make the cut.

[Datameister 2,480]

2 hours ago, Mr. Who said:

There are tons of deleted scenes. I wonder why Cameron hasn’t made an extended cut (excluding the alternate ending though which doesn’t really fit with the rest of the movie).

 

From the deleted scenes I thought that the fabrizio storyline was a nice addition though but I get why it was cut.

 

God, the alternate ending is terrible. Haven't seen the others, though.

[bollemanneke 4,138]

Extremely stupid question, but is this coming to all countries? Only there's no info about it on my local cinema website at all.