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  1. I love Robocop 2, specially in the complete version. It is his score I listen the most (but I still prefer the Poledouris scores for the series).

     

    Never liked Star Trek IV, although the finale/end credits track is very good. But it is the worst trek score for the original cast movies IMO. Would love if Nimoy had brought Horner back to complete the trilogy 2-4 (I imagine a cross between his trek scores and some of his urban style for 48hrs.). 
     

    Tried Lord of The Rings several times, but it doesn’t click with me.

     

    Like his more accessible Apes 5 score.
    Find both his dissonant Fantastic Voyage and Apes 2 surprisingly listenable. March of the Apes is a good track, even in that psychodelic album version (the Apes2 LP is a wonder in reshaping a score for ‘commercial’ release - sounds like a crazy experiment).

     

    Cross Creek and Hellfighters are very good and more accessible scores.

  2. On 05/02/2024 at 11:35 AM, Arnaud2 said:

    Thank you. I’d love to see the ranks of the whole 69 titles, if possible. It might be more surprising than the more or less obvious top 10. A.I. at 15 is unexpected (in a good way).

    Here are the "top 50" - below that a lot of scores with one or two mentions only:

     

    Top 10 (Average year 1983): 

    1) ET - The Extraterrestrial - 379 

    2) The Empire Strikes Back - 373

    3) Star Wars: A New Hope - 269

    4) Raiders of the Lost Ark - 205

    5) Superman: The Movie - 180

    6) Close Encounters of the 3rd Kind - 179

    7) Jurassic Park - 173.5

    8) Jaws - 170

    9) IJ and the Temple of Doom - 157.5

    10) HP and the Prisoneer of Askaban - 137 

     

    11) Hook -130.5

    12) HP and the Sorcerer's Stone - 98.5

    13) IJ and the Last Crusade - 93.5

    14) Schindler's List - 93

    15) A.I. Artificial Intelligence - 87

    16) The Lost World - 73.5

    17) SW: The Force Awakens - 70

    18) SW: The Return of the Jedi - 58

    19) SW: Revenge of the Sith- 50 (8)

    20) Seven Years in Tibet - 50 (7)

     

    21) Home Alone - 39

    22) Jane Eyre - 38.5

    23) War Horse 35.5 (11)

    24) SW: Phantom Menace 35.5 (9)

    25) JFK - 33

    26) Memoirs of Gheisa - 32

    27) Empire of the Sun - 31

    28) Adventures of Tintin - 30.5

    29) The River - 30

    30) Angela's Ashes - 28

     

    31) The Fury - 27.5

    32) SpaceCamp - 27

    33) Dracula - 24

    34) Catch Me If You Can - 20.5

    35) 1941 - 20

    36) Far & Away - 18

    37) Lincoln - 17.5

    38) The Poseidon Adventure -17 (4)

    39) The Towering Inferno - 17 (3)

    40) Images - 15.5

     

    41) SW: Attack of the Clones - 15 (4)

    41) The Terminal - 15 (4)

    43) SW: The Last Jedi - 14 (3)

    43) The Witches of Eastwick - 14 (3)

    45) War of the Worlds - 13

    46) The BFG - 12.5

    47) Heartbeeps - 10 (3)

    47) HP: Chamber of Secrets - 10 (3)

    47) Accidental Tourist - 10 (3)

    50) Monsignor - 10 (1)

     

  3. On 05/02/2024 at 1:52 PM, Smeltington said:

    Thanks for going to the trouble, @danbeck!

     

    Last time, weren't there some theories about other ways to calculate the results? I don't feel like my 1st place deserves double the points of my 6th place for example, or 10 times the points of my 10th place.

    That's the criteria that seemed balanced to me, but for sure several other could`ve been used (just number of mentions irrespective of ranking, among others) that's why I still wait for the "official" JoeinAR results with the metrics he will adopt. 

     

    But here is alternate ranking just taking into account the number of times a score was listed (the same scores remain as the top 10 & 15, with minor changes in position):

     

    1) ET - 53

    2) Empire Strikes Back - 48

    3) Star Wars - 36

    4) Close Encounters - 35

    5) Raiders - 34

    6) Jurassic Park - 33

    7) Jaws - 28

    8) HP: PoA - 28

    9) Superman - 27

    10) IJ: Temple of Doom - 27

     

    11) Hook - 24

    12) HP: Sorcerer's - 18

    13) IJ: Last Crusade - 18

    14) Schindler's - 17

    15) A.I. - 17

     

     

     

  4. On 17/11/2023 at 12:55 PM, GerateWohl said:

    I really cannot connect to JNH's Hunger Games scores. Same for his Fantastic Beasts scores. Particularly too bombastic without being rich and too synthetic in sound to capture me emotionally. An issue I also had with all his recent Disney scores. Not my cup of tea.

    Maybe you should try this one as there are no electronics, it’s fully acoustic. 
    I liked it, but as others mentioned, it lacks a strong new theme.

  5. The first two episodes were OK, good visuals and fine pacing. Never been a fan of the movie (except for the score), too tame and childish for my liking even at the time of its release when I was 13.

    But was dissapointed with the new series music, specially taking into account James Newton Howard is involved. Too generic for me with only some small fragments of Horner's themes standing out (but not is a very good way, a bit jarring) and the terrible songs at the end of each episode. 

    After the ending of the second episode Disney+ reverted to the original movie and what a difference(!), choral and orchestral thematic exuberance that is nowhere to be seen in the series so far. 

    I'll wait furter episodes and the soundtrack album for a better appraisal. 

  6. With older scores being released on vinyl these days I'd like a Jaws The Revenge vinyl (I love the poster art and think it would look great in vinyl size - similar to the laserdisc, which looks great).

    As for the program, supposedly the 28 min. promo was taken from a Michael Small's personal copy of the cancelled soundtrack album, but it was not a very good program (with some unused tracks taking place of some more relevant tracks used in the film).

     

    So I prepared a 35 min. program of what would be my "ideal program" for a 1987 vinyl release (before the time of complete soundtrack releases):

     

    Side A (18 mins.):

    1) Jaws The Revenge Main Titles (same as CD track)

    2) The Bahamas / Tagging The Shark (similar to the promo track, starting with "Ellen Plays With Leah" then merging it at 1:00 with "Shark Takes Bait")

    3) Remembering Sean (joining the tracks "Identication" and "Run-Funeral")

    4) The Shark / Ellen's Nightmare (joining 3 tracks in the following order: "Ellen Warns", "Jaws The Revenge" and "Ellen's Dream")

    5) We Got A Big Fish Down Here! (joining "Shark Attacks Jake In Sled" and "Don't Tell Mother")

    6) Michael And Thea (joining "Peek-A-Boo" and "Saying Goodninght")

    7) Underwater Chase (joining "Picking Up Signals" and "Michael Attacked By Shark" [ommiting the final 20 seconds of this last track])

    8) Michael's Nightmares (joining "Michael's Dream" and "Michael At Mirror")

     

    Side B (17 mins.):

    1) Attack On The Banana Boat (same as "Banana Boat (original ending)")

    2) Ellen Goes Out To Sea (same as CD track)

    3) Michael Runs For Help / Come And Get Me (joining "Michael Runs For Help" and "Plane Buzzes Shark")

    4) Attack On The Plane (same as "Is Hoagie Dead?")

    5) Jake's Last Stand (same as "Killing Of Jake")

    6) The Final Showdown (joining "Sean Attacked" until 1:01 with "Shoked Shark - The Finish" as of 0:20 [a similar edit as it is in the movie] and looping the stinger of the latter track at 1:14 twice, as it is in the movie)

    7) Jaws The Revenge - End Credits (same as CD track)

     

     

  7. For those who like Jaws The Revenge there's a new book just released "The Shark Is Roaring: The Story Of Jaws The Revenge" by Paul Downey.

    Amazon.com: The Shark is Roaring – The Story of Jaws: The Revenge eBook : Downey , Paul : Loja Kindle

     

    It is a good overview of the rushed making of the movie with some new interviews with actors Lorraine Gary, Lance Guest, Mitchell Anderson, Karen Young and other crew members.

     

    It was funny to read the chapter on the soundtrack and see that it basically includes information from Scott Bettencourt and Douglass Fake liner notes of the Intrada release and from my review and track-by-track description above.

     

  8. 4 hours ago, Jay said:

    Wow, that's great! I've always wanted to analyze the OST album closer

     

    I never noticed that part of the Main Title extension comes from Man Against Beast!

     

    I think it's a shame he didn't re-record Father and Son for the score album, that's one of my favorite cues in the score

    I wish he had rerecorded that, maybe extending it for the OST (and also The Pier Incident) then the album would be even more perfect.

  9. 26 minutes ago, scallenger said:

     

    The rest of the score was interesting/good though! It was sometimes hard to tell who did what music while watching it, but I was able to pick out some of Kamen's (he has a style I am a little familiar with from other scores he has done). And don't get me wrong, I like Mancini as well! It's just so odd that his theme, that honestly sucked me right in as soon as I heard it, was so "miscast" for this score.

     

     

    As far as I remember the longer cut only uses the Mancini score (Kamen rescored tracks are used on the US shorter theatrical cut).

     

    I love the Main Title music and think it works well in the movie (Main and End Titles). Some of its propulsive style is used also at the end of Carlson's Story and in the mid of Son of the Web and also works with the over the top style of the movie.

    I agree it does not goes well with the helicopter escape (but it is not Mancini's fault as it was tracked there) 

     

  10. With the release of Jaws in IMAX and 3D maybe the score will finally be back in print, like ET.

    And it would be even better if additional material was added (such as the film version of the marching band and other source that Williams may have vetoed on the 2015 version) and/or if on the preparation of the sound for the new release they found new elements such as multitracks for the score or the album masters).

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