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I didn’t know you hadn’t. You should make it a priority! If anything, you’d appreciate the photography. 

You like the duelling banjos scene so much?
 

You like the duelling banjos scene so much?
 

@rough cut It's all good! I enjoy having discussions here, especially over differences. I didn't find you to be too hot-headed.  In that case, I usually don't see a point to engage as I don't think we'll ever come to understand each other, so I just step away. But it seemed like we just had some misunderstandings, which makes sense considering it's a pretty complicated and subjective conversation to an extent. I'm certainly willing to keep cool and put forth the effort in that case.
 
To reiterate. I think it is perfectly fine to have the opinion that it's a bad decision. I don't actually necessarily wholeheartedly defend the decision either in this specific case for Justice League.
 
To do my best at keeping it somewhat short: I think Director's should shoot for and release the aspect ratio they want, regardless of how any of us feel about it. We could discuss how good or bad of a decision it is forever and neither of us would be "right" necessarily. That being said, I actually think the Justice League team took the lazy route when filming and framed shots to work in both ratios while shooting, which ends up diminishing both ratios off and on throughout the movie. So, it's not a model film for 4:3 or 16:9 framing really, but if that's what Snyder wants to do then I say he should go for it. He's the dude in charge. You're totally right though that you don't have to like it. That's why I advocated using the crop in feature on TVs since thats a decision you can make to view it closer to how the 16:9 version would've looked.
 
Basically, I don't necessarily defend the framing itself, but rather his decision to release it that way. And of course I also defend a Director's ability to decide whatever ratio he wants to shoot for initially. Whether or not the ratio is a good idea is entirely up for discussion. I just don't support saying that Director's should all shoot in 16:9 from the get go as I think the ratio is a part of creative storytelling.
 
In the end, my goal was to say: Technically and factually speaking this isn't a 4:3 cropped image, it's the entire film negative (to quash the misconception that there is picture "missing") and Snyder should release the film, however he pleases. You are absolutely correct though that you don't have to like it. I just don't think we can say that he never should've had the opportunity to release it the way he wants. Does that make sense?

Big Eyes was okay, I guess, but very forgettable. I do remember liking Elfman's score in the context of the movie.
 
Miss Peregrine was another one I watched and also forgot everything about it. Nothing was memorable about that one. 
 
Haven't seen Dumbo yet, and probably never will.

Another good one that no one knows about.
 

Dolby Atmos? Nah! Everything is going retro, even the speaker design of the '60s and '70s is making a serious comeback. 
 
See here the latest models of Wharfedale:
 
 

 
Wharfedale Denton 85th Anniversary (and yes, with real wood veneer)
 

 
 
Wharfedale Linton 85th Anniversary. The stands of these speakers are made in such way that they can store some vinyl too.
 
 

Of course, you don't have to store vinyl in them. It's 'optional'.
 

 
 
 
 
And here's the latest from JBL:
 

 

 
It doesn't get more retro than this.

Count me off. This is the end of new ideas. I don't understand why Burton will do that.
 
Oh yes I know: money.

Wigs aren't rodents, Dr Meridian 
 
 

Better Johnson than that Abrams hack. TLJ is the only Disney SW that managed to entertain me and Rian showed he can make a good movie with Knives Out. 

WW is the only DCEU movie I tried to watch. Shut it off before they even got off the island.
 
Glad that Rian's trilogy is not out the window, his contribution was by far the most interesting and worthwile in the new lineup of stuff.

Better Johnson than that Abrams hack. TLJ is the only Disney SW that managed to entertain me and Rian showed he can make a good movie with Knives Out. 

Better Johnson than that Abrams hack. TLJ is the only Disney SW that managed to entertain me and Rian showed he can make a good movie with Knives Out. 

Better Johnson than that Abrams hack. TLJ is the only Disney SW that managed to entertain me and Rian showed he can make a good movie with Knives Out. 

Only ... it does look good visually. Just because Snyder used the comic books as storyboards does not change that.  But more importantly, it's very expressive, which is strange because it's so strongly based on static material. You can perfectly watch 300 without the dialogue. It's one of only a handful movies where the visual direction somehow puts me in a trance.  When art can do that, it becomes the ultimate experience. 

I don't think Justice League was an aesthetically pleasing movie to begin with so I'm curious if this new version can bring some improvement in that department. It might be a small difference technically but I think Kubrick's Barry Lyndon or Eyes Wide Shut lose something when seen in 1.85:1. I much prefer the DVD versions with black pillars.
 
That's right! I just put Snyder and Kubrick in the same post!

300 looks the way it does because that's how the comic book looks. And the production design of Watchmen looks fairly natural. Photographically (compositions, lighting, camera work) it's pretty amazing and very expressive in its visual storytelling. They both are. I saw very little of that in his DC movies.

Oh TSMefford, now you've done it! Gruesome and Drax love Buffy to the extreme.

I'm sorry, but this is literally  you saying that Director and Cinematographers should cater to people's preferences and ignore their own preferences when it comes to ratios. You're not giving them a choice. They won't be choosing to shoot in 16:9 based on artistic means, they'll be choosing it because some crowd wants the movies to fill the screen at home. My argument about surround sound, I feel, still holds. If most people don't have surround sound at home, then why bother going through the trouble of making a surround sound mix? Because they're not making movies for your home screen, they're making them for cinemas. 
 
Now, that being said. Like I tried to emphasize in my second long-as-hell post. I'm all about choices. You can watch movies however you want. You can do it yourself with the press of a button on most TVs. That being said, to take the burden off of consumers, what honestly is probably the best solution for everyone, especially these days with streaming and what not is for studios to after the fact format the movie for 16:9 TVs and present that as an option. I still disagree with that practice, but it is already done all the time these days. Most Television broadcasts of films that are anything but 16:9 are open matte. For letterbox they open up the top and bottom and for shows like Friends they open the sides.
 
I would have no qualms if they started releasing "16:9 Edition" DVDs and Blu-Rays either. You're clearly quite passionate about it. So, I'll say that there should definitely be a better option to cater to that preference. Plenty people agree with you @rough cutand wish the screen would be made full use of. I just think that it should be done after the fact and not literally box Directors into a "standardized" aspect ratio.

It's subjective. You guys are entertained by Ant-Man or Wonder Woman, other guys might actually like The Snyder Universe. There is something for everyone.

Jagten (The Hunt)
 
Strong film. Hard to watch.