Joni Wiljami 1,206 Posted July 4, 2007 Share Posted July 4, 2007 Then again, you seem to be capable of enjoying quite a lot.Speaks the guy that can sit down through Blade Runner I could sit down through Blade Runner again instead of seeing this one.Easily.With love. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panthera 0 Posted July 4, 2007 Share Posted July 4, 2007 Why? When Transformers is an amazing film (and I'm not even a fan of the cartoon show or any of the toys) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SturgisPodmore 0 Posted July 4, 2007 Share Posted July 4, 2007 I thouroughly enjoyed Transformers. It was a great action movie, and its main attraction, the special effects, were indeed spectacular. That, after all, is pretty much the point of the movie: the CG Transformer characters. I enjoyed the rest of the characters, too: LaBeouf as the average Joe teen; Megan Fox... ...enough said. Also, John Turturro was wonderful as the "sector seven" agent; I was very excited to see him, as I didn't know he was in this. The mom was also funny and frumpy.The score was, predictably, generic and fairly uninteresting, though it suited the film just fine. The only thing I specifically didn't like was the abruptness with which the soundtrack jumped from score to rock songs, although I thought the Linkin Park song that ended the movie was fine. Anyways, it was a movie that completed its objective: over-the-top action and brilliant effects. It didn't need anything more. A-~Sturgis, who didn't notice too much annoying Michael Bay editing and liked the use of slow motion to showcase the effects Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,346 Posted July 4, 2007 Share Posted July 4, 2007 Then again, you seem to be capable of enjoying quite a lot.Speaks the guy that can sit down through Blade Runner I could sit down through Blade Runner again instead of seeing this one.Easily.With love.Don't worry, most kids would fall asleep with Blade Runner. They just do not have the tools yet to comprehend it all. And some of them never will. If I had to entertain a bunch of children with a movie, I would serve them Tomb Raider 2 or Return Of The Jedi. Transformers also sounds like a good babysitter. Alex Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BurgaFlippinMan 7 Posted July 4, 2007 Share Posted July 4, 2007 If this doesn't get an Oscar for f/x.......then Pirates will Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Skywalker 1,796 Posted July 4, 2007 Share Posted July 4, 2007 I would serve them Tomb Raider 2 or Return Of The Jedi.Now that's offensive.ROTJ rules.Ask Ricard...Luke, amazed that a 'child' created this amazing site. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ollie 1,059 Posted July 4, 2007 Share Posted July 4, 2007 I would never show a kid Tomb Raider or it's sequel. It could damage their perception of what a good "B" film is. Even my kids thought the first Tomb Raider sucked and didn't een bother with the sequel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeinAR 1,949 Posted July 5, 2007 Share Posted July 5, 2007 Transformers is entertaining, but its not a good movie. Its so full of holes that a tractor trailer could drive through it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted July 5, 2007 Share Posted July 5, 2007 So what? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChuckM 1 Posted July 5, 2007 Share Posted July 5, 2007 I saw Transformers yesterday. I thought it was pretty sweet. The graphics were insane! (Not that I was worried about that part) But the plot was pretty good too. There was a lot more involved there than the original cartoon. I liked too how they explained or changed the most obvious errors that the cartoon version contained. Made it seem a lot more possible. The score? Well, I'll post about that in the thread for the score. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red 75 Posted July 5, 2007 Share Posted July 5, 2007 Does Michael Bay choose to make dumb movies, or is that all he's capable of? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChuckM 1 Posted July 5, 2007 Share Posted July 5, 2007 Neither. He makes awesome movies, which some people think are dumb, because opinions differ. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted July 5, 2007 Share Posted July 5, 2007 Pearl Harbor was awesome? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Breathmask 555 Posted July 5, 2007 Share Posted July 5, 2007 It is if you're a masochist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted July 5, 2007 Share Posted July 5, 2007 A Michael Bay film can only be good if it is entirely unpretentious.That's why Bad Ways is good, and The Rock.Bay thinking he's making a serious movie, or a movie that in anyway deals with serious issues is a recipe for disaster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChuckM 1 Posted July 5, 2007 Share Posted July 5, 2007 Pearl Harbor was awesome?It was pretty good. But you can't expect ALL of any persons movies to be great. But Armageddon, The Rock, The Island, and Transformers were definitely awesome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurker 5 Posted July 5, 2007 Share Posted July 5, 2007 Pearl Harbor was awesome?It was pretty good. But you can't expect ALL of any persons movies to be great. But Armageddon, The Rock, The Island, and Transformers were definitely awesome.You're 16, right?Neil Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChuckM 1 Posted July 5, 2007 Share Posted July 5, 2007 18 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurker 5 Posted July 5, 2007 Share Posted July 5, 2007 It still all makes perfect sense. You're the target demographic. It all changes when you hit 25.Neil Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted July 5, 2007 Share Posted July 5, 2007 Neil is right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joni Wiljami 1,206 Posted July 5, 2007 Share Posted July 5, 2007 ArmageddonI needed to leave the building when tried to watch this in the theatre back then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLUMENKOHL 1,068 Posted July 5, 2007 Share Posted July 5, 2007 Senility hit you two that early eh? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joni Wiljami 1,206 Posted July 5, 2007 Share Posted July 5, 2007 If you say so.It had nothing to do with that fact that the makers of this film were seniles or brainless Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeinAR 1,949 Posted July 5, 2007 Share Posted July 5, 2007 So what?so what there was no plot, or what there is was so thin, it was basically put in place to blow stuff up.gullwings may someday learn that Bay makes bad movies, but bad movies can be entertaining.Transformers is a nearly bad movie. It escapes because Shia Lebouf(sp?) has fun. The movie makes no sense at all, but who cares because they blow stuff up so well, and thats a better reason than many films have.hey gullwings Armageddon is awesome....awesomely bad. Its among the worst big budgeted films ever.The editing is atrocitious. The acting is weak. There isn't much plot, gosh sounds like tranformers.the difference is Transformers takes eye candy to a new level. Its the first movie in several years where the movie doesnt have just visual effects, it has SPECIAL effects. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChuckM 1 Posted July 5, 2007 Share Posted July 5, 2007 Meh, whatever. I'm not one to let other's opinions affect my own. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLUMENKOHL 1,068 Posted July 5, 2007 Share Posted July 5, 2007 What do you want from a movie geared to litte kids? An intricate adult soap opera?For a person who hails Star Wars as the most amazing achievement in Cinema, you sure look for a lot of depth in your movies.[Cue the oldies to start arguing how Mark Hamill is an amazing actor in comparison to Shia what's his name , etc. etc.]*Shakes head* Cinematic puritans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChuckM 1 Posted July 5, 2007 Share Posted July 5, 2007 Star Wars as the most amazing achievement in CinemaWell, that one probably is pretty close to being true. I would pretty much agree there. But that doesn't mean I can't enjoy less complicated movies as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,346 Posted July 5, 2007 Share Posted July 5, 2007 But ... Mark Hamill is an amazing actor!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted July 5, 2007 Share Posted July 5, 2007 Mark Hamill is Mark Hamill. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,346 Posted July 5, 2007 Share Posted July 5, 2007 Nobody does a Mark Hamill better than Mark Hamill. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLUMENKOHL 1,068 Posted July 5, 2007 Share Posted July 5, 2007 But that doesn't mean I can't enjoy less complicated movies as well.Star Wars complicated? Ohhh yes. That Darth Vader fellow...verrry complicated. I was questioning his role as evil villain every second of Star Wars. So three-dimensional.Not to demerit the achievements of the film at the time, just showing how a simplistic tale can be hailed as amazing by its contemporaries. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeinAR 1,949 Posted July 5, 2007 Share Posted July 5, 2007 Meh, whatever. I'm not one to let other's opinions affect my own.some of what I said isn't opinion, some are facts, Armageddon is a bad movie, FACT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLUMENKOHL 1,068 Posted July 5, 2007 Share Posted July 5, 2007 Meh, whatever. I'm not one to let other's opinions affect my own.some of what I said isn't opinion, some are facts, Armageddon is a bad movie, FACT.True. Right down to helicopters flying in the background of every speech scene. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeinAR 1,949 Posted July 5, 2007 Share Posted July 5, 2007 What do you want from a movie geared to litte kids? An intricate adult soap opera?For a person who hails Star Wars as the most amazing achievement in Cinema, you sure look for a lot of depth in your movies.[Cue the oldies to start arguing how Mark Hamill is an amazing actor in comparison to Shia what's his name , etc. etc.]*Shakes head* Cinematic puritans.were you talking to me???do I hail Star Wars as the most amazing achievement in cinema, I don't recall doing that. I said it changed the way I viewed movies. I doubt anyone is going to argue Mark Hamill in favor of Shia Lebouf, but it must be said that Mark made a niche as Luke Skywalker. I don't think that Shia's Transformers film character's name will become a part of the pop lexicon like Luke Skywalker did! Shia is a hot commodity, and a very good actor, much more skilled that Hamill, but as yet has had a character as memorable as Luke Skywalker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLUMENKOHL 1,068 Posted July 5, 2007 Share Posted July 5, 2007 Mark Hamill didn't make Luke Skywalker, Joe. Nor did George Lucas. Kenner Toys made Luke Skywalker for all us boys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bondo 33 Posted July 6, 2007 Share Posted July 6, 2007 It still all makes perfect sense. You're the target demographic. It all changes when you hit 25.NeilHaha, wow, I hope you're not trying to be 100% serious when you say that, because that's complete and utter BS based on... well, not much. I know plenty of people over 25 who loved Armageddon when it came out and still enjoy it now. When it came out, I distinctly remember the wide age range of people in the theater, and I saw it several times. My dad makes it a point to see movies like POTC, Transformers, and Live Free or Die Hard, and he's over 50. The notion that adults only see films that are intellectual and thought-provoking is just stupid.It's easy to label something as juvenile when you don't like it - it makes you appear 'above' it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Crichton 4 Posted July 6, 2007 Share Posted July 6, 2007 Yes Neil's demographics are total crap. I was younger than 25 when I realized Armaggedon sucked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bondo 33 Posted July 6, 2007 Share Posted July 6, 2007 It actually has nothing to do with it being 'good' or not. "Good" is just an opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLUMENKOHL 1,068 Posted July 6, 2007 Share Posted July 6, 2007 Yeah I think I was 18 when I saw it in theaters...and realized it's crap. It actually has nothing to do with it being 'good' or not. "Good" is just an opinion.To a degree yes, but to make such a broad absolute carpet statement is also juvenile; if the world were ending and you could only save one book of the following which would you pick?The complete works of Shakespeare.or Your local telephone book. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red 75 Posted July 6, 2007 Share Posted July 6, 2007 A Michael Bay film can only be good if it is entirely unpretentious.That's why Bad Ways is good, and The Rock.Bay thinking he's making a serious movie, or a movie that in anyway deals with serious issues is a recipe for disaster.So it is all he's capable of.I wouldn't mind Bay as much if he was a much more humble person. As in, he admitted to making some dumb, crappy movies (not that I think he hasn't made a single good film). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeinAR 1,949 Posted July 6, 2007 Share Posted July 6, 2007 Yeah I think I was 18 when I saw it in theaters...and realized it's crap. It actually has nothing to do with it being 'good' or not. "Good" is just an opinion.To a degree yes, but to make such a broad absolute carpet statement is also juvenile; if the world were ending and you could only save one book of the following which would you pick?The complete works of Shakespeare.or Your local telephone book.neither, I'd want a book on survival. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ollie 1,059 Posted July 6, 2007 Share Posted July 6, 2007 Yes Neil's demographics are total crap. I was younger than 25 when I realized Armaggedon sucked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hitch 57 Posted July 6, 2007 Share Posted July 6, 2007 A Michael Bay movie isn't the same without Ben Affleck. Bring back Mrs Lopez to the fold. Next. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bondo 33 Posted July 6, 2007 Share Posted July 6, 2007 A Michael Bay movie isn't the same without Ben Affleck. Bring back Mrs Lopez to the fold. Next.ArmageddonPearl HarborvsBad Boys 1 & 2The RockThe IslandYou're absolutely right! Michael Bay-Ben Affleck=Good Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ollie 1,059 Posted July 6, 2007 Share Posted July 6, 2007 A Michael Bay movie isn't the same without Ben Affleck. Bring back Mrs Lopez to the fold. Next.Yes they become even worse with his boring bland acting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red 75 Posted July 6, 2007 Share Posted July 6, 2007 Ben Affleck can be a good actor. Can being the operative word.But not with Michael Bay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ollie 1,059 Posted July 6, 2007 Share Posted July 6, 2007 You must have missed how he ruined The Sum Of All Fears. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JWfangirl1992 18 Posted July 6, 2007 Share Posted July 6, 2007 Argh you guys arguing is like being back in preschool again.Anyway I'm still in awe. I've never seen the Transformers cartoon so I figured I would be totally lost, I wasn't. It was A-M-A-Z-I-N-G!!! Definitely one of the top movies of the summer. When Optimus Prime *SPOILER* went all noble and heroic and (I thought) was going to die my friend and I were rocking in our seats pulling a darth vader screaming "NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!'. There will DEFINITELY be a sequel, Optimus Prime's speech at the end where he is calling all Autobots screams that there are other Decipticons (sp) who are going to hear the message and once again try to take over the universe. Or Bay can go totally clique and bring Megatron back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurker 5 Posted July 6, 2007 Share Posted July 6, 2007 I'm guessing that 1992 is your year of birth. By my calculations, that makes you 14 or 15. You're in the target demographic. Enjoy it while it lasts.Neil Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLUMENKOHL 1,068 Posted July 6, 2007 Share Posted July 6, 2007 By my calculationsSad part is, you're just like what you typed. A machine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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