Trent Hoyt 13 Posted June 4, 2009 Share Posted June 4, 2009 Terminator Salvation. That movie was a waste of time. They accomplished absolutely nothing. Can Hollywood leave any franchise alone anymore? I will not see the inevitable sequels. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,251 Posted June 4, 2009 Share Posted June 4, 2009 He worked for legends like Francis F. Coppola, David Lynch, The Coen Brothers, Ridley Scott.So? Francis Ford Coppola is his uncle, so that doesn't even really mean anything.He has a small handful of good performances, where he is still very much Nick Cage, but it isn't laughably bad.NextGhost RiderNational TreasureWindtalkers8MMSnake EyesThe two biggies: The Wicker Man and DeadfallThe list goes on. I do enjoy some of his good action movies, like Con Air, Face/Off, and The Rock. But that doesn't mean he is good in them.He is really always the same, I just call him "crazy Nick Cage." Although I wonder if he knows if he's a bad actor because of his Pachinko Sanko commercials. There he seems to be poking fun of his crazy self, and they are hilarious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,346 Posted June 4, 2009 Share Posted June 4, 2009 He worked for legends like Francis F. Coppola, David Lynch, The Coen Brothers, Ridley Scott.So? Francis Ford Coppola is his uncle, so that doesn\'t even really mean anything.Is he the nephew of David Lynch, the Coen brothers, Ridley Scott or Brian De Palma? These directors seem to want him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BurgaFlippinMan 7 Posted June 4, 2009 Share Posted June 4, 2009 Grand Prix - Yes, its a little corny, a tad predictable and suffers from an overuse of splitscreen visuals. It does however, feature absolutely amazing racing footage of Formula One in the 60s. Loved it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delorean90 42 Posted June 4, 2009 Share Posted June 4, 2009 Lord Of War is an awesome filmSpeaking of Donnie Darko, has anybody seen the spinoff movie S. Darko?I haven't seen Donnie Darko yet. I was in Wal-Mart today and happened to glance over the back cover of S. Darko, and the summary, I kid you not, included the words, "Seven years after the death of her brother, Samantha Darko...", and I stopped there. Maybe I was asking for it, but seriously? On the freakin' cover? Geez. What kinda freakin' idiots do this stuff? The same ones that talked about how Senator Palpatine would become the Emperor in twenty years on the back cover of TPM? I'm sure there's loads to appreciate in the original film, even with this knowledge, but man...that sucks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henry B 50 Posted June 4, 2009 Share Posted June 4, 2009 What kinda freakin' idiots do this stuff? The same ones that talked about how Senator Palpatine would become the Emperor in twenty years on the back cover of TPM?That's not much of a spoiler. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,251 Posted June 4, 2009 Share Posted June 4, 2009 He worked for legends like Francis F. Coppola, David Lynch, The Coen Brothers, Ridley Scott.So? Francis Ford Coppola is his uncle, so that doesn\'t even really mean anything.Is he the nephew of David Lynch, the Coen brothers, Ridley Scott or Brian De Palma? These directors seem to want him.No, but like I said, so what? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delorean90 42 Posted June 4, 2009 Share Posted June 4, 2009 What kinda freakin' idiots do this stuff? The same ones that talked about how Senator Palpatine would become the Emperor in twenty years on the back cover of TPM?That's not much of a spoiler.Well, I'm relieved to hear that. It seems like what would normally be a pretty big spoiler, but from what I've heard about the kind of movie it is, I'm not surprised either that it's not too much in the grand scheme of things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marian Schedenig 8,211 Posted June 4, 2009 Share Posted June 4, 2009 No, he really isn't. I know he can be annoying as hell at times, but when he's in the right part, sparks fly.Cage in the right role is good. In the wrong role he's just bored.Compare Keanu Reeves, who in the right role is merely ok and in most others just lousy. Donnie Darko: The Director's Cut. For me it is a version for all those (idiots?) who didn't get the original. It gives away too much, I think. BTW why some music is changed? It worked perfectly in the theatrical version.From what I've read, I believe the director's cut actually uses the music that was in Kelly's original cut, but had to be replaced for the theatrical release due to licensing issues.I never seen Lord Of War. It's from the guy from Gattaca so maybe I should. Then again, he also made S1m0ne.I like all three. Though of course neither LoW nor S1m0ne can touch the marvellous Gattaca. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,374 Posted June 4, 2009 Share Posted June 4, 2009 What kinda freakin' idiots do this stuff? The same ones that talked about how Senator Palpatine would become the Emperor in twenty years on the back cover of TPM?That's not much of a spoiler.Well, I'm relieved to hear that. It seems like what would normally be a pretty big spoiler, but from what I've heard about the kind of movie it is, I'm not surprised either that it's not too much in the grand scheme of things.He was referring to TPM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henry B 50 Posted June 4, 2009 Share Posted June 4, 2009 What kinda freakin' idiots do this stuff? The same ones that talked about how Senator Palpatine would become the Emperor in twenty years on the back cover of TPM?That's not much of a spoiler.Well, I'm relieved to hear that. It seems like what would normally be a pretty big spoiler, but from what I've heard about the kind of movie it is, I'm not surprised either that it's not too much in the grand scheme of things.What... seriously? It's in the prologue to the novelization of Star Wars. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wojo 2,453 Posted June 4, 2009 Share Posted June 4, 2009 He worked for legends like Francis F. Coppola, David Lynch, The Coen Brothers, Ridley Scott.So? Francis Ford Coppola is his uncle, so that doesn\'t even really mean anything.Is he the nephew of David Lynch, the Coen brothers, Ridley Scott or Brian De Palma? These directors seem to want him.No, but like I said, so what?And people say that I'm dense. You believe, Mr. Savas, that Nicholas Cage is the worst actor ever. Yet he has worked with such legendary directors as Coppola, Lynch, Coen, Coen, Scott, and de Palma. Bad actors don't get picked up by great directors for starring roles in high profile movies.You're implying that he only worked with Francis Ford Coppola because they're family. Nepotism might be the excuse in some circles, but it doesn't explain why de Palma, Scott, and Lynch asked for him. Don't tell me it's because they're all one big happy Hollywood family. So obviously some people think Nick Cage is a fine actor.Knowing that Senator Palpatine becomes Emperor is not spoiler-caliber material. I don't think you can honestly say that Lucas wrote and directed The Phantom Menace with an audience in mind consisting of people who had never seen a drop of Star Wars in their life. Because anybody who remembered Return of the Jedi takes one look at nice guy Palpatine, hears him speak, and says "yup, that's the Emperor, I know where this is going." But the Donnie Darko bit does sound like a pretty big spoiler infraction. 'It happens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,251 Posted June 4, 2009 Share Posted June 4, 2009 If Ridley Scott wanted me to star in his film, would that automatically make me a good actor? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Brigden 7 Posted June 4, 2009 Share Posted June 4, 2009 If Ridley Scott wanted me to star in his film, would that automatically make me a good actor?Um, yes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delorean90 42 Posted June 4, 2009 Share Posted June 4, 2009 Knowing that Senator Palpatine becomes Emperor is not spoiler-caliber material. I don't think you can honestly say that Lucas wrote and directed The Phantom Menace with an audience in mind consisting of people who had never seen a drop of Star Wars in their life. Because anybody who remembered Return of the Jedi takes one look at nice guy Palpatine, hears him speak, and says "yup, that's the Emperor, I know where this is going." But the Donnie Darko bit does sound like a pretty big spoiler infraction. 'It happens.Meh. Not the greatest example, but Georgie sure acted like it was supposed to be some mega-secret by...halfway trying to hide his face under the hood...forget it. I'm not even gonna waste my time really trying to figure out what his intentions were. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Brigden 7 Posted June 4, 2009 Share Posted June 4, 2009 Knowing that Senator Palpatine becomes Emperor is not spoiler-caliber material. I don't think you can honestly say that Lucas wrote and directed The Phantom Menace with an audience in mind consisting of people who had never seen a drop of Star Wars in their life. Because anybody who remembered Return of the Jedi takes one look at nice guy Palpatine, hears him speak, and says "yup, that's the Emperor, I know where this is going." But the Donnie Darko bit does sound like a pretty big spoiler infraction. 'It happens.Meh. Not the greatest example, but Georgie sure acted like it was supposed to be some mega-secret by...halfway trying to hide his face under the hood...forget it. I'm not even gonna waste my time really trying to figure out what his intentions were.Well yeah, he was "the phantom menace" but it's clear to anyone who had ever seen Star Wars before, and probably more too, that they were one in the same. Or if it wasn't, it was by the end of the focus pull in Qui-Gon's funeral scene. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delorean90 42 Posted June 4, 2009 Share Posted June 4, 2009 Just forget it. It was a stupid comparison written in a fit of frustration. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,346 Posted June 4, 2009 Share Posted June 4, 2009 He worked for legends like Francis F. Coppola, David Lynch, The Coen Brothers, Ridley Scott.So? Francis Ford Coppola is his uncle, so that doesn\'t even really mean anything.Is he the nephew of David Lynch, the Coen brothers, Ridley Scott or Brian De Palma? These directors seem to want him.No, but like I said, so what?So what? Are you that dumb?If Ridley Scott wanted me to star in his film, would that automatically make me a good actor?If Ridley Scott, Coppola, Lynch, the Coen Brothers want him, it isn't because they think he's the worst actor in the world.A better question would be, if KS says Nicholas Cage is the worst actor ever, does that make it automatically so?And people say that I'm dense. You believe, Mr. Savas, that Nicholas Cage is the worst actor ever. Yet he has worked with such legendary directors as Coppola, Lynch, Coen, Coen, Scott, and de Palma. Bad actors don't get picked up by great directors for starring roles in high profile movies.Exactly. You're implying that he only worked with Francis Ford Coppola because they're family. Nepotism might be the excuse in some circles, but it doesn't explain why de Palma, Scott, and Lynch asked for him. Don't tell me it's because they're all one big happy Hollywood family.Thanks for explaining it to KS.So obviously some people think Nick Cage is a fine actor.That's just it, these are not just "some people". However, KS is most definitely "some people". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeinAR 1,949 Posted June 4, 2009 Share Posted June 4, 2009 your reasoning is superb. I think the problem with Cage is the same as DiCaprio, many men for some reason just dislike the actors. Its possible his Oscar winning role was a fluke, but it was still a stunning if depressing performance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,346 Posted June 4, 2009 Share Posted June 4, 2009 And now Cage is filming Bad Lieutenant with Werner Herzog, another legendary director. Alex Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morlock 11 Posted June 5, 2009 Share Posted June 5, 2009 I never seen Lord Of War. It's from the guy from Gattaca so maybe I should. Then again, he also made S1m0ne.I like all three. Though of course neither LoW nor S1m0ne can touch the marvellous Gattaca. I love Gattaca, but I think that Lord of War is the richest of the three. A real maturation. The material felt like it was in the hands of an old master. And now Cage is filming Bad Lieutenant with Werner Herzog, another legendary director. Alex I'm very worried by this, actually. It looks like it's goign to be a Herzog film without much Herzog...what's the point? Frankly, I'm much happier with Herzog doing documentries. Rescue Dawn felt like Herzog-lite, where as both Grizzly Man and Encounters at the End of the world were pretty amazing, and pure Herzog. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,251 Posted June 5, 2009 Share Posted June 5, 2009 There's another Cage movie that looks God-awful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QMM 4 Posted June 5, 2009 Share Posted June 5, 2009 I'm very worried by this, actually. It looks like it's goign to be a Herzog film without much Herzog...what's the point? Frankly, I'm much happier with Herzog doing documentries. Rescue Dawn felt like Herzog-lite, where as both Grizzly Man and Encounters at the End of the world were pretty amazing, and pure Herzog.The only thing that stood out to me as Herzog in the trailer was the iguana scene and the camera work he does there. That being said I'll still see it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,374 Posted June 5, 2009 Share Posted June 5, 2009 He's Just Not That Into YouI though it was good. TERRIFIC cast, and funny and entertaining throughout. One thing I noticed was that all the guy characters basically didn't know what they wanted, and all the girl characters were pretty straightforward (for the most part)Bradley Cooper's character was a douchebag Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,346 Posted June 5, 2009 Share Posted June 5, 2009 I love Gattaca, but I think that Lord of War is the richest of the three. A real maturation. The material felt like it was in the hands of an old master.The DVD is really cheap so I propably get it. I'm very worried by this, actually. It looks like it's goign to be a Herzog film without much Herzog...what's the point? Frankly, I'm much happier with Herzog doing documentries. Rescue Dawn felt like Herzog-lite, where as both Grizzly Man and Encounters at the End of the world were pretty amazing, and pure Herzog.I'll watch it, if the reviews are really, really good.Secret Window: Very mediocre stuff. Johnny Depp isn't all that convincing either. Apt Pupil: This movie would've been better without the Hollywood touch. Ian McKellen does a memorable performance though.Alex Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QMM 4 Posted June 5, 2009 Share Posted June 5, 2009 Terminator: SalvationDefinitely better than T3. It's got a lot of problems, my biggest being the first scene of the movie since it takes away so much of the intrigue of Marcus' character, but there are redeeming bits. Loved the long shot that reveals Connor and the attack at the gas station had fantastic sound design. Elfman's score was a bit overbearing at times, and there's a couple big plot holes, but all the Terminator movies have them.If McG is being called the new Michael Bay or a Michael Bay wannabe, then I'll gladly take him over Bay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neimoidian 14 Posted June 5, 2009 Share Posted June 5, 2009 Terminator: SalvationDefinitely better than T3. It's got a lot of problems, my biggest being the first scene of the movie since it takes away so much of the intrigue of Marcus' character, but there are redeeming bits. Loved the long shot that reveals Connor and the attack at the gas station had fantastic sound design. Elfman's score was a bit overbearing at times, and there's a couple big plot holes, but all the Terminator movies have them.If McG is being called the new Michael Bay or a Michael Bay wannabe, then I'll gladly take him over Bay.Yet, it receives a lot of really bad reviews, much more than T3, I think. Rotten Tomatoes, for example, "gives" T3 70%, while T4 only 34%. It's hard to believe that this new movie could be worse than the previous abomination, but it looks like it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,020 Posted June 5, 2009 Share Posted June 5, 2009 I've seen it only once, but T3 wasn't that bad.Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neimoidian 14 Posted June 5, 2009 Share Posted June 5, 2009 I've seen it only once, but T3 wasn't that bad.KarolIt wasn't the worst movie I have ever seen, but all that tongue-in-cheek references to the previous ones made me sick. It was totally pointless and superficial sequel. The only thing I really liked was the ending twist that suggested new and interesting direction to be taken. So did the trailers for Salvation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red 75 Posted June 5, 2009 Share Posted June 5, 2009 T3 was practically a comedy, a really corny unfunny comedy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,251 Posted June 5, 2009 Share Posted June 5, 2009 It wasn't the worst movie I have ever seen, but all that tongue-in-cheek references to the previous ones made me sick.Then don't see Salvation. You'll get stupid and out of place uses of famous lines like "Come with me if you want to live" and "I'll be back." I thought it was worse than Rise Of The Machines.The HappeningThis was the first time I've seen it since theaters. I actually thought it wasn't as bad. There are still major problems with the story, and a lot of the acting is pretty bad, but overall it was mediocre and not "worst movie ever" as I felt before. Howard's score is good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neimoidian 14 Posted June 5, 2009 Share Posted June 5, 2009 It wasn't the worst movie I have ever seen, but all that tongue-in-cheek references to the previous ones made me sick.Then don't see Salvation. You'll get stupid and out of place uses of famous lines like "Come with me if you want to live" and "I'll be back." I thought it was worse than Rise Of The Machines.T2 had some of these moments too, but it was great enough not to mind it. In T3, however, there is no way not to cringe when we see Arnold in male striptease bar wearing tacky glasses. How can Salvation be any worse than that?The HappeningThis was the first time I've seen it since theaters. I actually thought it wasn't as bad. There are still major problems with the story, and a lot of the acting is pretty bad, but overall it was mediocre and not "worst movie ever" as I felt before. Howard's score is good.This is actually one of the worst movies I have ever seen. I really like the score. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marian Schedenig 8,211 Posted June 5, 2009 Share Posted June 5, 2009 Secret Window: Very mediocre stuff. Johnny Depp isn't all that convincing either.It's certainly not great in any significant way, but I thought it was perfectly fine for what it is. Well-made throughout, with a wonderfully unsettling Depp and a seriously creepy Turturro.Apt Pupil: This movie would've been better without the Hollywood touch. Ian McKellen does a memorable performance though.I love it. I haven't read the King story, so I can't compare the two, but I think the movie presents the story very well, with several highlights along the way. Aside from McKellen's performance, the climax of the hospital sequence comes to mind. Hollywood? Yes, but spine-tingling, too. Fine score as well. I like this more than Singer's X-Men movies.(I can't get over David Schwimmer's moustached school councellor, though) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,020 Posted June 5, 2009 Share Posted June 5, 2009 I've seen it only once, but T3 wasn't that bad.KarolIt wasn't the worst movie I have ever seen, but all that tongue-in-cheek references to the previous ones made me sick. It was totally pointless and superficial sequel. The only thing I really liked was the ending twist that suggested new and interesting direction to be taken. So did the trailers for Salvation.That's true. But then again I never treated these films seriously so it didn't bother me all that much.Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeinAR 1,949 Posted June 6, 2009 Share Posted June 6, 2009 Salvation is worse than that moment Nem. The Hangover was pretty funny but very raunchy and the last few scenes are pornographic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacob 0 Posted June 6, 2009 Share Posted June 6, 2009 Caught Surf's Up on TV and found it surprisingly funny. Nothing special, but still, some good laughs. I thought the reality TV angle was a clever and somewhat refreshing break from the norm of these kind of lower class CGI features. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,374 Posted June 6, 2009 Share Posted June 6, 2009 Tropic ThunderMeh, not as funny as I was expecting Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,251 Posted June 6, 2009 Share Posted June 6, 2009 You kiddin' me? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,374 Posted June 6, 2009 Share Posted June 6, 2009 Yea. It had a lot of funny parts but not enough. Kinda dragged in a lot of parts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,251 Posted June 6, 2009 Share Posted June 6, 2009 I loved it. What'd you think of the score? I remember I was the only one laughing at it in the theater. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,374 Posted June 6, 2009 Share Posted June 6, 2009 Didn't notice it, really Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,251 Posted June 6, 2009 Share Posted June 6, 2009 Well it's a great spoof of Zimmer, most notably Black Hawk Down. Theodore Shapiro did a great job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QMM 4 Posted June 6, 2009 Share Posted June 6, 2009 KnowingHm, well first off it's not a good movie BUT I will say that if anyone of you has any interest in the movie at all, you should see it. Not really anything noteworthy about the performances, although Cage and Bryne have their moments. Beltrami's score impressed me and I loved the way they integrated the Beethoven piece (moreso the first time), is it on the soundtrack?I'm now (at least partially) interested in Proyas again after the disappointing I, Robot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delorean90 42 Posted June 6, 2009 Share Posted June 6, 2009 BullittHmm. I think I'll need to watch this again. I'd heard how great the car chase was, and it was good...but while it was overall a pretty good movie, I somehow felt like I'd missed something. Maybe it was because I was watching with a friend, who was making some noise--maybe I really did miss something. But while there were cool moments and shots, and some pretty good performances, I didn't feel like I ever really got into it. And the whole thing with Frank's girlfriend in the middle of the film felt kinda tacked on; I was once again left wondering, "Uh, did I miss something?" I didn't know why she ran inside--to check on him? It was scenes like that that felt like I was jumping into the middle of a plotline that I hadn't gotten the setup for. Like I said, I was watching it with a friend, it was late at night...I dunno. I was just kinda disappointed. Not bad, but I feel like I was supposed to get more out of it than I did. Right now, in this confused state...3.5/5. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neimoidian 14 Posted June 6, 2009 Share Posted June 6, 2009 KnowingHm, well first off it's not a good movie BUT I will say that if anyone of you has any interest in the movie at all, you should see it. Not really anything noteworthy about the performances, although Cage and Bryne have their moments. Beltrami's score impressed me and I loved the way they integrated the Beethoven piece (moreso the first time), is it on the soundtrack?I'm now (at least partially) interested in Proyas again after the disappointing I, Robot.No, it isn't. Beethoven replaced an original cue that Beltrami had written. The soundtrack is very interesting indeed. It should be 10 minutes shorter though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,251 Posted June 6, 2009 Share Posted June 6, 2009 I'm now (at least partially) interested in Proyas again after the disappointing I, Robot.I really enjoyed I, Robot.BullittHmm. I think I'll need to watch this again. I'd heard how great the car chase was, and it was good...but while it was overall a pretty good movie, I somehow felt like I'd missed something. Maybe it was because I was watching with a friend, who was making some noise--maybe I really did miss something. But while there were cool moments and shots, and some pretty good performances, I didn't feel like I ever really got into it. And the whole thing with Frank's girlfriend in the middle of the film felt kinda tacked on; I was once again left wondering, "Uh, did I miss something?" I didn't know why she ran inside--to check on him? It was scenes like that that felt like I was jumping into the middle of a plotline that I hadn't gotten the setup for. Like I said, I was watching it with a friend, it was late at night...I dunno. I was just kinda disappointed. Not bad, but I feel like I was supposed to get more out of it than I did. Right now, in this confused state...3.5/5.I kinda felt the same way. I thought the car chase was boring after hearing by friends how superb it was. Give me Bond over that any day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,346 Posted June 6, 2009 Share Posted June 6, 2009 I'm now (at least partially) interested in Proyas again after the disappointing I, Robot.Proyas never tickled my fancy. The Crow is bad. I Robot is childish. I haven't seen Knowing but for now Dark City is his best effort.Alex Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,020 Posted June 6, 2009 Share Posted June 6, 2009 Knowing won't change your mind then. With or without Nicholas Cage, it's a weak movie.Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted June 6, 2009 Share Posted June 6, 2009 But...but...The Crow is a genre classic!Isn't it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Brigden 7 Posted June 6, 2009 Share Posted June 6, 2009 I always liked THE CROW. Some of it was a tad annoying, but the mix of genre actors and the stylized look made it feel a lot more like a comic book than most comic book movies I've seen, in a good way. DARK CITY was okay, but I can't remember that much about it. I only ever saw the I, ROBOT trailer, and that was bad enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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