QMM 4 Posted March 3, 2010 Share Posted March 3, 2010 I love the theme and the track is nice enough, but I'm getting a bit tired of the string work employed here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,251 Posted March 3, 2010 Share Posted March 3, 2010 I'm nearing the end of my first listen of the score, and it's very monothematic. It's a little overbearing because it's so loud/grand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
indy4 155 Posted March 3, 2010 Share Posted March 3, 2010 The string work is a bit old, but I love the track as a whole.And that three note motif in the beginning reminds me of PotC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxxie 1 Posted March 3, 2010 Share Posted March 3, 2010 That three note motif in the beginning reminds me of PotC.I'll definitley have to pick it up then! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,528 Posted March 3, 2010 Share Posted March 3, 2010 "PotC"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxxie 1 Posted March 3, 2010 Share Posted March 3, 2010 "PotC"?Pirates Of The Caribbean. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,251 Posted March 3, 2010 Share Posted March 3, 2010 I didn't hear any POTC in there. I heard a lot of Morricone, oddly enough. Alice's Theme vibes the original main title songs for old Spaghetti westerns to me. Cheesy lyrics, with some backing strings and interesting progressions. Don't get me wrong though, there's a ton of Elfman injected into it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,364 Posted March 3, 2010 Share Posted March 3, 2010 Pirates of the Caribbean Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wojo 2,453 Posted March 3, 2010 Share Posted March 3, 2010 Pirates of the Caribbean Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
indy4 155 Posted March 3, 2010 Share Posted March 3, 2010 I didn't hear any POTC in there. I heard a lot of Morricone, oddly enough. Alice's Theme vibes the original main title songs for old Spaghetti westerns to me. Cheesy lyrics, with some backing strings and interesting progressions. Don't get me wrong though, there's a ton of Elfman injected into it.It's at 0:!2 of the track, and it is similar to the theme in "One Day" (before the love theme stuff comes in). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,013 Posted March 3, 2010 Share Posted March 3, 2010 I am about to finish my first listen of the score. I'm really liking it. It's better than I thought. I'm glad the CD is not overlong. 50 minutes is just about right. I really like the main theme. No matter what others say: Elfman is a top of his game recently IMO. Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maglorfin 196 Posted March 4, 2010 Share Posted March 4, 2010 I'm buying this.And Quint, you need to change your avatar back to Quint. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Penna 3,689 Posted March 4, 2010 Share Posted March 4, 2010 I still think Alice's Theme is very reminiscent of Horner's "Becoming One of the..." solo theme. I still like it tho.Won't be checking out the movie as it just looks bizarre, but already it's sounding my kind of epic Definitely Elfman's year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QMM 4 Posted March 10, 2010 Share Posted March 10, 2010 Really good interview with Elfman about Alice and his relationship with Burton Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demondm810 399 Posted March 10, 2010 Share Posted March 10, 2010 Glad you posted that. Good interview. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,013 Posted March 11, 2010 Share Posted March 11, 2010 Glad you posted that. Good interview.Indeed. But most of his interviews are interesting. He's very frank and modest at the same time.Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demondm810 399 Posted March 11, 2010 Share Posted March 11, 2010 Yea, I'm glad to see him back to form. Alice and Wolfman have been his best in years, IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diego 21 Posted March 11, 2010 Author Share Posted March 11, 2010 I don't think Alice is that good. Granted the main theme is very good but there's not much else on the score that jumps to attention, whenever the theme is playing it's great but that's it. And as good as the theme is I do find it a bit derivative of his earlier stuff. I'm not saying it's a bad score though, but not among his best I think. I do have to listen it more.I've been a lot more into The Wolfman actually. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,013 Posted March 11, 2010 Share Posted March 11, 2010 I've been a lot more into The Wolfman actually.By the matter of fact I listened to both today. The Wolfman is much more mature and fresh for Elfman. It's a pity some discard by saying it's basically Sleepy Hollow 2 since it has literally nothing in common with that score, except for the genre (and even that is questionable). Sleepy Hollow is very tongue-in-cheek (as expected from Tim Burton) whereas this one is much more serious and almost classical in its feel. The Wolfman is actually Elfman's first proper gothic horror score. And he makes most out of it. It is so beautifully written piece of music. I know very is very little action music and choir as compared to other Elfman scores, which makes it a bit harder to get into, but I love its restraint and brooding atmosphere. Alice in Wonderland, on the other hand, is pretty much standard score for Burton's movie. True, the writing seems more bold and "muscular" than usual, but there is very little new here (if anything). Don't get me wrong, I enjoy it for what it is, but it probably won't be re-visited as frequently as The Wolfman.Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demondm810 399 Posted March 11, 2010 Share Posted March 11, 2010 I would agree with that. Alice works remarkably well with the film. Listening experience gets a tad redundant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted March 12, 2010 Share Posted March 12, 2010 Holy smokes! Clem's been generous with his 5-star ratings lately. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Desplat13 1 Posted March 13, 2010 Share Posted March 13, 2010 Indeed. Though I must say I am listening to Alice for the first time right now, and am finding it absolutely captivating. Haven't seen the movie yet, though... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,631 Posted March 17, 2010 Share Posted March 17, 2010 Why is there a bunch of tracks with crappy lyrics on the OST? There was no such thing in the film Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demondm810 399 Posted March 17, 2010 Share Posted March 17, 2010 Yea, Im wish the actual opening title music was on the album, not the lyric filled concert version of the alice theme. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diego 21 Posted March 17, 2010 Author Share Posted March 17, 2010 I've not seen the movie, but from the reviews, etc, it seems there's a lot of unreleased music. So basically, all of those reprises were recorded for the album I guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Desplat13 1 Posted March 17, 2010 Share Posted March 17, 2010 Hmm, I haven't seen the movie, but I really enjoy the main theme with lyrics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacck 23 Posted March 17, 2010 Share Posted March 17, 2010 Elfman wrote those lyrics as an afterthought and had the idea completely by himself, according to a recent interview he gave. Mainly as an idea for them to be used on the end credits to replace the chorus without lyrics, which Tim Burton allowed, apparently (haven't seen the film yet).He said he became obsessed with the idea of 'covertly' creating the lyrics and getting them recorded, so I suppose that explains why all those reprises are in the soundtrack. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,631 Posted March 17, 2010 Share Posted March 17, 2010 I can't stand the reprises on the albumI've not seen the movie, but from the reviews, etc, it seems there's a lot of unreleased music.There must be. Because the score in the film sounded great but the album made 0 impression on me .Did they pick all the wrong cues for the OST? There's A LOT of orchestral Alice's theme in the film score but I don't remember many (if any) statements on the OST which seems to just have the action cuesAnother bootleg to watch out for Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diego 21 Posted March 17, 2010 Author Share Posted March 17, 2010 The music on the film must have made quite an impression for you to desire unreleased non-Williams music. Makes me really curious about the music on the movie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted March 19, 2010 Share Posted March 19, 2010 I gotta see this movie. Alice is a cutie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fommes 153 Posted July 21, 2011 Share Posted July 21, 2011 Is this the tracklisting of the Academy promo? Too bad this still hasn't surfaced yet.1 Alice's Theme 5:07 2 The Proposal/Rabbit Chase 1:34 3 Down The Hole 2:58 4 Drink Me 1:51 5 In Court 2:48 6 Bayard & White Queen 0:49 7 Liars/Vorpal Sword 0:26 8 Alice Escapes 2:42 9 Execution 2:41 10 Only A Dream 0:38 11 Alice Decides, Part 1 2:07 12 Alice Decides, Part 2 4:04 13 Alice Decides, Part 3 0:24 14 Going To Battle, Part 3 1:07 15 Alice Returns 0:36 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,013 Posted March 1, 2015 Share Posted March 1, 2015 There is a live to projection concert of this score at Royal Albert Hall in London on the 12th of December.Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,364 Posted March 1, 2015 Share Posted March 1, 2015 Huh, interesting choice Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted March 1, 2015 Share Posted March 1, 2015 Why? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted March 1, 2015 Share Posted March 1, 2015 Odd choice, more like it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Ware 526 Posted March 1, 2015 Share Posted March 1, 2015 Disney loves live to projection. Burton at the RAH was a sellout. Makes sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,364 Posted March 1, 2015 Share Posted March 1, 2015 So why not Nightmare Before Christmas then. The Alice in Wonderland reboot is not a well regarded or often discussed movie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted March 1, 2015 Share Posted March 1, 2015 Yeah it's weird. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,251 Posted March 1, 2015 Share Posted March 1, 2015 So why not Nightmare Before Christmas then. The Alice in Wonderland reboot is not a well regarded or often discussed movie.Maybe because of all the songs? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted March 1, 2015 Share Posted March 1, 2015 Just play the instrumental versions of the songs, or keep the vocals from the film. There, problem solved. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Ware 526 Posted March 2, 2015 Share Posted March 2, 2015 So why not Nightmare Before Christmas then. The Alice in Wonderland reboot is not a well regarded or often discussed movie.No idea, but this premiered in Lucerne in March last year - http://www.artproductions.ch/konzerte52.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Omen II 1,235 Posted March 2, 2015 Share Posted March 2, 2015 So why not Nightmare Before Christmas then. The Alice in Wonderland reboot is not a well regarded or often discussed movie.2015 is the 150th anniversary of the publishing of Lewis Carroll's Alice's Adventures In Wonderland. There are loads of events planned to tie in with this, including a special set of commemorative stamps issued by Royal Mail, if you're into hardcore philately. It could just be a serendipitous coincidence, but if so the choice of film is rather apt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,364 Posted March 2, 2015 Share Posted March 2, 2015 Ah, cool. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kühni 485 Posted November 6, 2021 Share Posted November 6, 2021 . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,528 Posted November 6, 2021 Share Posted November 6, 2021 On 02/03/2015 at 7:38 PM, Omen II said: There...is...a special set of commemorative stamps issued by Royal Mail, if you're into hardcore philately. Sorry, Omen, but philately will get you nowhere Omen II 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted November 6, 2021 Share Posted November 6, 2021 3 hours ago, Kühni said: Does anybody have the chronological listings for this, drawing from the OST and the box-set CD? Ta mucho! Always a good resource to check: https://chrono-score.blogspot.com/2011/04/alice-in-wonderland.html mstrox 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kühni 485 Posted November 6, 2021 Share Posted November 6, 2021 . Disco Stu 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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