Jay 37,373 Posted August 17, 2012 Share Posted August 17, 2012 Hmmm, interesting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,018 Posted August 17, 2012 Share Posted August 17, 2012 Listen to the track I posted in my updated post.Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,373 Posted August 17, 2012 Share Posted August 17, 2012 I can hear some superficial similarities but they are different enough to not come close to being considered a ripoff imho Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,018 Posted August 17, 2012 Share Posted August 17, 2012 I never said it's a rip-off. I just said I hear Horner in there.Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,373 Posted August 17, 2012 Share Posted August 17, 2012 I know you didn't, I didn't mean to imply you did, sorry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrJosh 892 Posted August 18, 2012 Share Posted August 18, 2012 I don't hear the Horner similarities...better get my ears checked Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faleel 5,359 Posted August 18, 2012 Share Posted August 18, 2012 Listening to Spartacus, Now this is how all Mono music should sound. MrJosh 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,715 Posted August 18, 2012 Share Posted August 18, 2012 Total Recall by Jerry GoldsmithThe Shadow by Jerry Goldsmith Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marc 769 Posted August 18, 2012 Share Posted August 18, 2012 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeinAR 1,949 Posted August 18, 2012 Share Posted August 18, 2012 I would like to say I listened to Johnny Mandel's score to Deathtrap but that's a dream I'll never realize. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,018 Posted August 18, 2012 Share Posted August 18, 2012 I know you didn't, I didn't mean to imply you did, sorryThere's no need to be sorry. Die Hard for me today. It is a brilliant score and very apt sub-title for me life lately. Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheTennisBallKid 17 Posted August 18, 2012 Share Posted August 18, 2012 Birdman of Alcatraz -- BernsteinBeautiful. Intimate. Woodwinds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
indy4 155 Posted August 18, 2012 Share Posted August 18, 2012 John Goldfarb, Please Come Home:Overall the score is a little to distracted for my taste, but there are some great moments. The love theme, and a few tracks work as standalone tracks. My favorite is "King Fawz Feast," for the awesome combination of Irish and Arabic music. I wish there was a soundtrack release for this score back in 1965, because if so maybe Williams would have expanded some of the random ideas into more listenable tracks. Of particular interest is the silent movie pastiche stuff--that always sounds really cool, and I'd love to hear a more fleshed out version (or a high quality recording of the piano silent movie pastiche that Williams wrote for hte Boston Pops one time). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marc 769 Posted August 19, 2012 Share Posted August 19, 2012 Not a score, but an exquisite piece by Herrmann : Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrJosh 892 Posted August 19, 2012 Share Posted August 19, 2012 John Goldfarb, Please Come Home:Overall the score is a little to distracted for my taste, but there are some great moments. The love theme, and a few tracks work as standalone tracks. My favorite is "King Fawz Feast," for the awesome combination of Irish and Arabic music. I wish there was a soundtrack release for this score back in 1965, because if so maybe Williams would have expanded some of the random ideas into more listenable tracks. Of particular interest is the silent movie pastiche stuff--that always sounds really cool, and I'd love to hear a more fleshed out version (or a high quality recording of the piano silent movie pastiche that Williams wrote for hte Boston Pops one time).Most positive review of John Goldfarb ever!! LOL. I agree with your points, an album would have been great...but alas... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted August 21, 2012 Share Posted August 21, 2012 The Mission (Amazing Stories) is on now. This riveting 30 minutes always make an appearance in my top JW scores. It has some of JW's best dramatic music and one of his greatest finales ever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faleel 5,359 Posted August 21, 2012 Share Posted August 21, 2012 Fellowship of The Ring (Howard Shore)Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade (John Williams)War Horse (John Williams) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,018 Posted August 21, 2012 Share Posted August 21, 2012 John Carter and The Amazing Spider-Man. So far the only true good things to come out this year. At least in the big-budget department.Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KK 3,307 Posted August 22, 2012 Share Posted August 22, 2012 John Carter and The Amazing Spider-Man. So far the only true good things to come out this year. At least in the big-budget department.KarolI'd probably add Journey 2 to the list. But other than those, I agree that there really wasn't much this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,715 Posted August 22, 2012 Share Posted August 22, 2012 Birdman of Alcatraz -- BernsteinBeautiful. Intimate. Woodwinds.Another of my favourite Bernstein scores. The album is a magical experience from the first note.John Carter and The Amazing Spider-Man. So far the only true good things to come out this year. At least in the big-budget department.KarolI'd probably add Journey 2 to the list. But other than those, I agree that there really wasn't much this year.Yes those two scores have been the most impressive scores released in the blockbuster department. Journey 2 is enjoyable but I feel that it lacks a certain kind of gravitas (as much as there is gravitas in the summer blockbuster world) and true memorability. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KK 3,307 Posted August 22, 2012 Share Posted August 22, 2012 ]Yes those two scores have been the most impressive scores released in the blockbuster department. Journey 2 is enjoyable but I feel that it lacks a certain kind of gravitas (as much as there is gravitas in the summer blockbuster world) and true memorability.You're spot on Incanus. I was simply saying that those would be my top 3 scores so far in the year. But I couldn't help but feel that Journey 2 was lacking the qualities to reach greatness. The score is good fun though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Penna 3,694 Posted August 22, 2012 Share Posted August 22, 2012 I'd disagree that it doesn't have the memorability.Lockington wrote some of the most memorable themes I've heard recently, and the orchestration in the non-action oriented cues is quite something.Clemmenson's review said it was good, but would never be considered 'high art', which made me immediately think - what is 'high art' exactly? Does he mean that the score is sugar-coated, and therefore can't be considered great music?It's a strange distinction I've seen with the oscars (not lately, maybe 5 years ago) where a score can be really popular, but 'of course it won't be oscar material'. And I ask... why not? if the music is doing its job in the film and clearly has much thought in thematic integration, what else are they asking for? Journey 2 is way better than some of the crap I've heard recently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,715 Posted August 22, 2012 Share Posted August 22, 2012 Yes Journey 2 is much better than many of its contempraries but for some reason it has not made a truly lasting impression on me. Lockington's themes are ok material sure but should I say his approach is quite generic with glimpses of original writing here and there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,018 Posted August 22, 2012 Share Posted August 22, 2012 I'll give it a listen.Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted August 22, 2012 Share Posted August 22, 2012 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,715 Posted August 23, 2012 Share Posted August 23, 2012 The Return of the King The Complete Recordings by Howard Shore: Perhaps even more magnificent than I remembered. A full listen still leaves me thoroughly emotionally exhausted but what and experience it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tannhauser 101 Posted August 23, 2012 Share Posted August 23, 2012 The Return of the King The Complete Recordings by Howard Shore: Perhaps even more magnificent than I remembered. A full listen still leaves me thoroughly emotionally exhausted but what and experience it is.I remember similar feelings after listening to the entire trilogy (not all in one sitting!) and following along Adams' book. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KK 3,307 Posted August 23, 2012 Share Posted August 23, 2012 The Return of the King The Complete Recordings by Howard Shore: Perhaps even more magnificent than I remembered. A full listen still leaves me thoroughly emotionally exhausted but what and experience it is.It's my favourite of the trilogy. An incredibly exhilirating musical ride, even more so than its predecessors. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faleel 5,359 Posted August 23, 2012 Share Posted August 23, 2012 The Return of the King The Complete Recordings by Howard Shore: Perhaps even more magnificent than I remembered. A full listen still leaves me thoroughly emotionally exhausted but what and experience it is.It's my favourite of the trilogy. An incredibly exhilirating musical ride, even more so than its predecessors.I think its great, but the ending cues, are kind of dull compared to the "Beach in Fellowship" theme renditions in the last two. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted August 23, 2012 Share Posted August 23, 2012 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wojo 2,453 Posted August 23, 2012 Share Posted August 23, 2012 When did the Fellowship have time to hit the beach? I think Legolas needed to work on his tan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,715 Posted August 23, 2012 Share Posted August 23, 2012 When did the Fellowship have time to hit the beach? I think Legolas needed to work on his tan.They obviously did some quick sun bathing in Parth Galen before they went to hunt some Orc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted August 23, 2012 Share Posted August 23, 2012 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faleel 5,359 Posted August 23, 2012 Share Posted August 23, 2012 Which is why the Orcs were about Six days ahead of those wacky Three Hunters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marian Schedenig 8,208 Posted August 23, 2012 Share Posted August 23, 2012 Is that beach where they got all their weed from? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeinAR 1,949 Posted August 23, 2012 Share Posted August 23, 2012 Signs, Star Wars, Superman, The Phantom Menace, Attack of the Clones Finale, yes I listened to the one track I've praised more than once. To bad ROTS was never as foreboding as the last 30 seconds of the AOTC Finale. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trent B 337 Posted August 23, 2012 Share Posted August 23, 2012 La-La Land's release for Independence Day. Still one of my top favorite scores to this date as well as top releases. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gkgyver 1,645 Posted August 23, 2012 Share Posted August 23, 2012 "Prometheus"I don't get why Gregson-Williams was brought on board for this. Adds nothing to it.A nice, comfortable listen, pleasant and straightforward.In other words, almost completely boring for such a film. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KK 3,307 Posted August 23, 2012 Share Posted August 23, 2012 Which is why the Orcs were about Six days ahead of those wacky Three Hunters.Hey, cut them slack. I mean it was probably the last time they were ever going to see a beach in their long journey, so might as well take advantage of it. They are human after all....oh wait...Attack of the Clones Finale, yes I listened to the one track I've praised more than once. To bad ROTS was never as foreboding as the last 30 seconds of the AOTC Finale.Love that finale. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,251 Posted August 23, 2012 Share Posted August 23, 2012 "Prometheus"I don't get why Gregson-Williams was brought on board for this. Adds nothing to it.A nice, comfortable listen, pleasant and straightforward.In other words, almost completely boring for such a film.Adds nothing? I guess a main theme is nothing these days... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,373 Posted August 23, 2012 Share Posted August 23, 2012 yea I was gonna say, HGW wrote the good music in the score, MS wrote the boring stuff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,715 Posted August 24, 2012 Share Posted August 24, 2012 The Wolfman by Danny Elfman: It has been a while since I listened to this score and I have to say it is hands down some of the best music Elfman has written in the last few years. The genre seems so right up his alley and the mood, fierce tense action and wicked foreboding his motifs embody capture the classic horror tale with panache and skill. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,018 Posted August 24, 2012 Share Posted August 24, 2012 I'd would even go as far and say it would one of the strongest scores in his entire career.Karol Incanus 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,715 Posted August 24, 2012 Share Posted August 24, 2012 I'd would even go as far and say it would one of the strongest scores in his entire career.KarolYes I agree. It sounds like a very mature and elegant piece, while still having fun with the subject matter and exploring the gothic darkness of the tale with glee.Creation by Christopher Young: This is the side of Young I wish the composer would get time and chances to explore more, lyrical, introspective yet strikingly dramatic, with sensitivity and such beautiful and haunting atmosphere. Young is a great composer with good thematic ear, which he usually masks under his brazen and slashing and clashing horror or action scoring but this score along with few others like the Shipping News and The Tower exhibit truly emotional lyricism that is a joy to hear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,018 Posted August 24, 2012 Share Posted August 24, 2012 Yes, indeed. Young is a really solid composer, but the stuff he has to work with is usually a waste of his talent, I reckon.Sommersby by Danny Elfman and Dances with Wolves by John Barry for me this morning.Oh and I gave Andrew Lockington's Journey 2 score a listen. Pleasant and well done, but not terribly memorable. I can't hear composer's voice.Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,715 Posted August 24, 2012 Share Posted August 24, 2012 Yes, indeed. Young is a really solid composer, but the stuff he has to work with is usually a waste of his talent, I reckon.Sommersby by Danny Elfman and Dances with Wolves by John Barry for me this morning.Oh and I gave Andrew Lockington's Journey 2 score a listen. Pleasant and well done, but not terribly memorable. I can't hear composer's voice.KarolSommersby is another less known but wonderful different kind of Elfman score and Dances with Wolves really epitomizes John Barry's lyrical and epic style in the best possible way. In fact I think I'll take a listen of that today as well.You are thinking along the same lines as I am about Lockington's score as well, his voice is a bit lost in doing this "action/adventure blockbuster" score. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,251 Posted August 24, 2012 Share Posted August 24, 2012 Creation by Christopher Young: This is the side of Young I wish the composer would get time and chances to explore more, lyrical, introspective yet strikingly dramatic, with sensitivity and such beautiful and haunting atmosphere. Young is a great composer with good thematic ear, which he usually masks under his brazen and slashing and clashing horror or action scoring but this score along with few others like the Shipping News and The Tower exhibit truly emotional lyricism that is a joy to hear.Agreed. The Shipping News is my favorite score of his. Have you heard Haunted Summer? Bought that on a whim since so many people gave it positive reviews upon La-La Land's release. It's really good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt C 455 Posted August 25, 2012 Share Posted August 25, 2012 Tribute Film Classics Highlights - Korngold, Steiner, & HerrmannStromberg and Morgan have put together an excellent highlight CD of all their famed re-recordings. I keep reminding myself to buy Adventures of Don Juan / Arsenic and Old Lace, but I keep forgetting... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nightscape94 965 Posted August 25, 2012 Share Posted August 25, 2012 Went on a Williams kick in my car during my ride to work this past week (it's an hour each way).Empire Strikes BackSupermanSaving Private RyanSchindler's ListE.T.Raiders of the Lost ArkThe FuryBy Request... MrJosh 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,715 Posted August 25, 2012 Share Posted August 25, 2012 Music from the Edge by John Corigliano: See further thoughts here: http://www.jwfan.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=22113 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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