What Is The Last Score You Listened To? (older scores)

[Kasey Kockroach 2,344]

It's too long and every track sounds the same. 

[publicist 4,643]

Deliciously same-y. Edited down to an hour you can't beat it. Love that particular idiom and how modern it sounds.

[Kasey Kockroach 2,344]

You CAN beat it! With a 35-minute listening followed by throwing in this song at the end!

 

[Unlucky Bastard 7,782]

The OST is fine.

[Kasey Kockroach 2,344]

Rest assured though, Small Soldiers DE was worth it. I'm not turning into Thor, don't worry!

[Unlucky Bastard 7,782]

Oh yeah. Depends on the score.

[Kasey Kockroach 2,344]

Also revisiting other Ape music.

 

[Unlucky Bastard 7,782]

Damn I loved that WftPotA movie.

[Kasey Kockroach 2,344]

It's one of the stronger Giacchinos for me, though I'll probably get around to a slightly shorter playlist one of these days.

[publicist 4,643]

[Kasey Kockroach 2,344]

It's a shame I first heard of Tangerine Dream through the Legend debacle, as it turned out their stuff's pretty cool beyond the whole THEY REPLACED GOLDSMITH nonsense. Love Near Dark! 

[Unlucky Bastard 7,782]

TD's score was better anyway.

[Kasey Kockroach 2,344]

6 minutes ago, Cherry Pie That'll Kill Ya said:

TD's score was better anyway.

[Unlucky Bastard 7,782]

[Kasey Kockroach 2,344]

The movie deserved neither Goldsmith or TD anyway. Nor Tim Curry, for that matter.

 

[Unlucky Bastard 7,782]

It deserved its onset fire.

[Kasey Kockroach 2,344]

It deserved a Richard Band score!

[Unlucky Bastard 7,782]

We'll have to re-animate his cheeky plagiarism!

[The Illustrious Jerry 3,356]

The Force Awakens Combo OST/FYC Edit 

The Empire Strikes Back 1997 Special Edition

Rogue One: A Star Wars Story Personal Edit

 

[#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265]

The Lord Of The Rings: The Fellowship Of The Ring (OST)

 

The best OST for sure. The lack of the Ring Theme was a commonly heard complaint, but knowing know it wasn't even conceived by Shore till quite late in the composition of this score, and tracked in, so the CD lacks that, and its fine. The big statement at the Argonath is great anyway.

The Prophecy is one hell of an opener, truly setting the style of, what would eventually be 6 scores, and much of it wasn't even in the film.

 

The rustic Hobbit music, obvious perhaps, but...warm and cheerful and sweet. Actually, once they leave the Shire the renditions of the Hobbit music become more whistful, sadder. Culminating in The Breaking Of The Fellowship, the single finest film composition of the first decade of this century.

 

The action music, its very particular. Shore doesnt write like Williams or Goldsmith. Yet it's very heavy, laden with mood, not unlike Barry. The Bridge Of Khazad Dum is a hell of an action piece!

 

Enya? Title song? Titanic rip-off! Quite likely. But May It Be is actually a rather lovely song, and her voice is just right for this score. The Aragorn/Arwen bridge stuff is great. 

 

So a perfect OST? Almost. There's a bit too much Ringwraith choir in the early part, which could have been replaced with something more varied. (Aragon kicking ass an Amon Sul).

 

Nevertheless, this remains a stellar album. It flows very well, maybe because its almost completely chronological?

 

Easily my most played Shore/Middle-earth album.

[Jurassic Shark 12,079]

How's the ring theme now again?

[#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265]

I'm not whistling it!

[Jurassic Shark 12,079]

Sing it then!

[#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265]

Never!

[Jurassic Shark 12,079]

Hum it then.

[Unlucky Bastard 7,782]

Of the three Rings scores, TTT has the best OST arrangement. I found the CR a drawn out disappointment. But the CRs for the other two are great.

[Disco Stu 15,495]

Just now, Cherry Pie That'll Kill Ya said:

TTT has the best OST arrangement.

 

I agree!!

[#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265]

Wrong!

 

ROTK is the worst though. Not surprising maybe. How to assemble a coherent 1 CD album of a 4 hour work.

[John 2,032]

FOTR's album arrangement is one of the great OSTs, while TTT and ROTK are both pretty decent.

[Kasey Kockroach 2,344]

Jurassic World: Fallen Kingdom has the best album arrangement of the OSTs. 

 

Sorry, I don't make the rules, I just enforce them.

[Disco Stu 15,495]

I've never even listened to, or honestly even really looked at, the non deluxe versions of The Hobbit OSTs

[Unlucky Bastard 7,782]

Is it true the non-deluxe version of The Hobbit 1 has music that the deluxe edition doesn't have?

[John 2,032]

Yes, most notably with the bombastic version of the "Misty Mountains" theme in "Roast Mutton" that the deluxe OST lacks.

[Jay 37,367]

7 minutes ago, Cherry Pie That'll Kill Ya said:

Is it true the non-deluxe version of The Hobbit 1 has music that the deluxe edition doesn't have?

 

Yes, and Desolation of Smaug does as well

 

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vT1LlmOwmhyjzo4eCX_T-5Q8ZMB4QkDQ3c-jhezQ_T-K4uOs2ehy2GaRwUsbSxIN2Uajt8pjOSrj8Wu/pubhtml

[crocodile 8,017]

17 minutes ago, Stefancos said:

Wrong!

 

ROTK is the worst though. Not surprising maybe. How to assemble a coherent 1 CD album of a 4 hour work.

With the important cues still to be recorded.

But I'm with Stu and Drax on this one. Towers has got the best album. Revelation of the Ringhwraiths kind of gets on my nerves so you can see why it can't be Fellowship.

 

Karol

[Jurassic Shark 12,079]

6 minutes ago, crocodile said:

With the important cues still to be recorded.

But I'm with Stu and Drax on this one. Towers has got the best album. Revelation of the Ringhwraiths kind of gets on my nerves so you can see why it can't be Fellowship.

 

Karol

 

There's no track named that.

 

And what do you mean still to be recorded?

[crocodile 8,017]

There's a theme named that.

 

A lot of the ROTK had yet to be recorded by the time they had to put together the OST. Noticed like there is barely any siege of Gondor music on the album?

 

Karol

[Jurassic Shark 12,079]

I thought you meant there's some great music that never was recorded.

[Incanus 5,715]

Abzû by Austin Wintory

[Jurassic Shark 12,079]

 

In which track can I find the annoying theme you're referring to?

[crocodile 8,017]

Just now, Jurassic Shark said:

 

In which track can I find the annoying theme you're referring to?

 

Karol

[Jay 37,367]

10 minutes ago, crocodile said:

Revelation of the Ringhwraiths

 

8 minutes ago, Jurassic Shark said:

There's no track named that.

 

4 minutes ago, crocodile said:

There's a theme named that.

 

2 minutes ago, Jurassic Shark said:

In which track can I find the annoying theme you're referring to?

 

http://www.jwfan.com/forums/index.php?/topic/11861-the-themes-of-howard-shores-the-lord-of-the-rings/

[Jurassic Shark 12,079]

2 minutes ago, crocodile said:

 

Karol

 

What's wrong with the theme - does it remind you of The Omen?

[crocodile 8,017]

7 minutes ago, Jurassic Shark said:

 

What's wrong with the theme - does it remind you of The Omen?

Revelation of the Ringwraiths is actually a title of the lyrics, not the official name of the theme. But that's what I call it.

 

There's nothing "wrong" with it as such, musically. But it appears so many times in similar variations in so many tracks of the FOTR OST that I really get fed up with it. Plus it doesn't really describe the Nine in a way I imagined them. I always thought of them as...well...wraiths.. Quiet. Think the first encounter on the road in FOTR(both book and film). I was thinking they would make no sound other than that sniffing thing. The theme is bit too overblown, I would say. In a way I think Shore's The Nine theme from The Hobbit films described them better.

 

EDIT: Funny, I actually read some of my post from that thread that Jay linked to. Funny how your opinions change. That was around the time I started posting here, trying to be more edgy haha (actually not sure about that). 😄

 

Karol

[crocodile 8,017]

 Legend 2: Secret of the Lost Baby by Jerry Goldsmith

 

Karol

[Matt C 454]

The Grudge 2 - Christopher Young

 

The Journey of Natty Gann - James Horner

[Incanus 5,715]

On 8/8/2018 at 9:06 PM, crocodile said:

Revelation of the Ringwraiths is actually a title of the lyrics, not the official name of the theme. But that's what I call it.

 

There's nothing "wrong" with it as such, musically. But it appears so many times in similar variations in so many tracks of the FOTR OST that I really get fed up with it. Plus it doesn't really describe the Nine in a way I imagined them. I always thought of them as...well...wraiths.. Quiet. Think the first encounter on the road in FOTR(both book and film). I was thinking they would make no sound other than that sniffing thing. The theme is bit too overblown, I would say. In a way I think Shore's The Nine theme from The Hobbit films described them better.

 

EDIT: Funny, I actually read some of my post from that thread that Jay linked to. Funny how your opinions change. That was around the time I started posting here, trying to be more edgy haha (actually not sure about that). 😄

 

Karol

To my mind the theme for the Ringwraiths is quite apt as it doesn't per se describe their form as mostly insubstantial wraiths given form only when clothed, they are given but rather the sheer bone chilling terror they invoke, their relentless undying drive to hunt for the Ring and first and foremost their might as the greatest emissaries of the Dark Lord and the power of Mordor. Sure in the novel their methods are somewhat more subtle but the score enforces their appearances in the film where they are depicted a good deal more brazen in their approach to finding the Ring.

But I can't deny that perhaps my favourite rendition of the theme is heard on Weathertop (A Knife in the Dark on the OST) where the theme begins as a unison whispered chant for the choir that then builds into the intensity of a scream during the cue as Witch-King attacks Frodo. 

 

I also find it pretty impressive how Shore actually combines the Ringwraith theme, the few simple forceful chords, with all the other Mordor accompaniment figures so that together they form this effective and natural combination, the Nazgûl theme effectively gathering together all these motifs into one denser even more powerful thematic figure. It is to my mind like all these little separate musical cogs and gears coming together to form the full machinery.

[crocodile 8,017]

In the grand architecture of Shore's music and Tolkien mythology the theme makes perfect sense, don't get me wrong. It is simply not how I would describe the feeling these beings evoke. Plus, as I said, my disdain has more to do with the repetitive nature of the OST and why I prefer TTT as an album. It is not that much of a problem on CR.

 

Karol

[Kasey Kockroach 2,344]

Jurassic World: Fallen Kingdom Hearts by Michael Giacchino and Yoko Shimomura

 

Robocop II by Leonard Rosenman

I know little to nothing about this composer otherwise, but I confess to loving this more than Poledouris' original. Original has a marvelous theme, but is otherwise a dull listen. This one's corny, and corn is tasty and nutritious. 

[Jurassic Shark 12,079]

Too much fructose isn't good for you.