A24 4,348 Posted January 20, 2011 Share Posted January 20, 2011 'In The Moonlight' is a soft bossa nova pop song. 'How Can I Remember' sounds like it could be a romantic song from a musical. Which one would you delete from the Sabrina album? Yes, Stefancos is holding a gun to your head, you have no choice.Alex Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,556 Posted January 20, 2011 Share Posted January 20, 2011 "How Can I Remember?" is a pretty, if forgettable song. "(In The)Moonlight", I prefer for several reasons: it's sung better, and more expressively; it has a more important role in the film; it goes to completing my Sting collection; it features Vinnie Colaiuta on drums, and any song that features Vinnie Colaiuta on drums gets my vote! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 7,531 Posted January 20, 2011 Share Posted January 20, 2011 I like them both, even as much as "Moonlight" resembles "Make Me Rainbows" from FITZWILLY.I also don't understand the poll. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,556 Posted January 20, 2011 Share Posted January 20, 2011 I like them both, even as much as "Moonlight" resembles "Make Me Rainbows" from FITZWILLY.I also don't understand the poll.It does sound a bit like "Make Me Rainbows", doesn't it?!As for not understanding the poll, I'll understand anything someone is holding a gun to my head. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wojo 2,453 Posted January 20, 2011 Share Posted January 20, 2011 I am unfamiliar with both songs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff 10 Posted January 20, 2011 Share Posted January 20, 2011 They're my least favorite tracks on the CD, but still part of the experience, so I wouldn't delete either. If you were really holding a gun to my head, I'd say "How Can I Remember" can go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,020 Posted January 20, 2011 Share Posted January 20, 2011 I never finished listening to this CD. So I can't vote.Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marian Schedenig 8,212 Posted January 20, 2011 Share Posted January 20, 2011 I never finished listening to this CD. So I can't vote.I did. Twice, I think. The only thing I recalled both times was that I simply didn't like any of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sandor 797 Posted January 20, 2011 Share Posted January 20, 2011 How Can I Remember is easily one of the best songs JW has ever written, despite the fact that JW is not really a good or noteworthy songwriter. How Can I Remember is still an exception: it's highly melodic and atmospheric, and quite complex. Moonlight is just too much Make Me Rainbows (except for the bridge, which is great). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romão 2,274 Posted January 20, 2011 Share Posted January 20, 2011 I wouldn't be able to delete any of them, Sabrina is a great listening experience just the way it is. It is an absolutely delightful piece of work Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted January 20, 2011 Share Posted January 20, 2011 I am unfamiliar with both songs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff 10 Posted January 21, 2011 Share Posted January 21, 2011 I never finished listening to this CD. So I can't vote.I did. Twice, I think. The only thing I recalled both times was that I simply didn't like any of it.That is tragic - I love Sabrina - its theme is possibly my favorite Williams theme ever. But I guess tastes differ. Some would say it's tragic that I don't like Close Encounters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted January 21, 2011 Share Posted January 21, 2011 I don't like the Sting song. How Can I Remember is good, but the film version is better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,348 Posted January 21, 2011 Author Share Posted January 21, 2011 I wouldn't be able to delete any of them, Sabrina is a great listening experience just the way it is. It is an absolutely delightful piece of workToo bad the recording sounds like a 64k MP3 file run through an aural exciter, isn't it?I like them both, even as much as "Moonlight" resembles "Make Me Rainbows" from FITZWILLY.Now that you mention it. It does indeed sound like some kind of update of the older song.Alex Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
indy4 155 Posted January 21, 2011 Share Posted January 21, 2011 I wouldn't be able to delete any of them, Sabrina is a great listening experience just the way it is. It is an absolutely delightful piece of work But I prefer the instrumental work to either of these songs. "Theme from Sabrina" and "Growing Up in Paris" are especially awesome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TownerFan 4,985 Posted January 21, 2011 Share Posted January 21, 2011 They're both nice songs, no more, no less.More than these two, I love the instrumental concert version of "(In the) Moonlight", with a very Accidental Tourist-like arrangement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh500 1,615 Posted January 24, 2011 Share Posted January 24, 2011 I don't go crazy over these songs, but I wouldn't delete them!The one sung by Sting is slightly better, IMO, maybe in part because of the piano solo halfway through. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miguel Andrade 1,264 Posted January 25, 2011 Share Posted January 25, 2011 "How Can I Remember?" is a pretty, if forgettable song. "(In The)Moonlight", I prefer for several reasons: it's sung better, and more expressively; it has a more important role in the film; it goes to completing my Sting collection; it features Vinnie Colaiuta on drums, and any song that features Vinnie Colaiuta on drums gets my vote!I disagree. "Moonlight" is sung not more expressively, but in a more accessible manner. Also, in the whole score stucture, the theme around which is built "How Can I Remember", has a much more proeminent use.I also don't understand the poll.I also have some dificulty understanding it...I wouldn't be able to delete any of them, Sabrina is a great listening experience just the way it is. It is an absolutely delightful piece of workAnd I wouldn't be able to say it any better Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MSM 126 Posted January 25, 2011 Share Posted January 25, 2011 I never finished listening to this CD. So I can't vote.I did. Twice, I think. The only thing I recalled both times was that I simply didn't like any of it.I like all of it, in fact it is my fav JW cd :-) Please send your unwanted copies to me, I can use some spare ones. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh500 1,615 Posted January 25, 2011 Share Posted January 25, 2011 They're both nice songs, no more, no less.More than these two, I love the instrumental concert version of "(In the) Moonlight", with a very Accidental Tourist-like arrangement.You know, I very much agree. Beside the main theme, I think this is the best track on the album. What I especially love about it is the horn solo (well, sorta) from 1:00 - 1:10. Man, I get pleasurable chills every time I hear that part! What a sublime moment! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ollie 1,059 Posted January 25, 2011 Share Posted January 25, 2011 Why would I want to remove music by John Williams from a CD? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pixie_twinkle 48 Posted January 26, 2011 Share Posted January 26, 2011 In the Moonlight is a beautiful song. A real highlight of Williams 90s music IMO. Yes, I'm being serious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wojo 2,453 Posted January 27, 2011 Share Posted January 27, 2011 Why would I want to remove music by John Williams from a CD?Because Amber Scott couldn't sing?However, this is her now, according to IMDB: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ollie 1,059 Posted January 27, 2011 Share Posted January 27, 2011 She can sing to me anytime. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff 10 Posted January 27, 2011 Share Posted January 27, 2011 I thought the way she sang was refreshingly normal. She had a nice, pleasant voice that wasn't operatic or showy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
indy4 155 Posted January 27, 2011 Share Posted January 27, 2011 I always thought the mistakes she made - mostly intonation - were done intentionally to make it seem more in character. A six year old shouldn't be a perfect singer. However, I prefer the usual "let's get a good singer" style, as I don't think musicals are supposed to be realistic in the first place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,348 Posted January 27, 2011 Author Share Posted January 27, 2011 Why would I want to remove music by John Williams from a CD?Often heard reasons:1) Pop songs spoil the mood and cadence of the album.2) Pop songs must die. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wojo 2,453 Posted January 28, 2011 Share Posted January 28, 2011 I thought the way she sang was refreshingly normal. She had a nice, pleasant voice that wasn't operatic or showy.Oh don't get me wrong, I rather enjoy that song. She sang it like a normal homesick little girl would have done.But between mentioning the exclusion of that song or the one Margot Kidder did for Superman, mentioning Margot Kidder would not allow me to post how well Maggie Banning has grown. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted January 28, 2011 Share Posted January 28, 2011 So, where is the Sabrina complete score... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TownerFan 4,985 Posted January 28, 2011 Share Posted January 28, 2011 So, where is the Sabrina complete score...You know, I would have nothing against a newly expanded edition of Sabrina. The OST is a very good listening experience and it's a very nice piece on itself, but it's a very different presentation than what was written for the actual film. It reminds the concept of the soundtrack album of the 1960s.The film cues are quite different from their counterpart on CD and I'd love to listen to a "Original Film Recording" version of this score. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 7,531 Posted January 28, 2011 Share Posted January 28, 2011 So, where is the Sabrina complete score...You know, I would have nothing against a newly expanded edition of Sabrina. The OST is a very good listening experience and it's a very nice piece on itself, but it's a very different presentation than what was written for the actual film. It reminds the concept of the soundtrack album of the 1960s.Yes, thank God. I wonder if there's any way one can force 1960's soundtrack ideology onto contemporary times? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TownerFan 4,985 Posted January 28, 2011 Share Posted January 28, 2011 So, where is the Sabrina complete score...You know, I would have nothing against a newly expanded edition of Sabrina. The OST is a very good listening experience and it's a very nice piece on itself, but it's a very different presentation than what was written for the actual film. It reminds the concept of the soundtrack album of the 1960s.Yes, thank God. I wonder if there's any way one can force 1960's soundtrack ideology onto contemporary times?Why? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 7,531 Posted January 28, 2011 Share Posted January 28, 2011 So, where is the Sabrina complete score...You know, I would have nothing against a newly expanded edition of Sabrina. The OST is a very good listening experience and it's a very nice piece on itself, but it's a very different presentation than what was written for the actual film. It reminds the concept of the soundtrack album of the 1960s.Yes, thank God. I wonder if there's any way one can force 1960's soundtrack ideology onto contemporary times?Why?Because then I can RULE THE WORLD!!MWAHAHAHAHAHAHA! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wojo 2,453 Posted January 28, 2011 Share Posted January 28, 2011 All for freedom and for pleasureNothing ever lasts foreverEverybody wants to rule the world Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh500 1,615 Posted January 28, 2011 Share Posted January 28, 2011 Why would I want to remove music by John Williams from a CD?Because Amber Scott couldn't sing?However, this is her now, according to IMDB: She looks like Denise Richards!Anyway, the music is fantastic, but I just can't get into this movie. IMHO, one of the weakest Spielberg movies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ollie 1,059 Posted January 28, 2011 Share Posted January 28, 2011 So, where is the Sabrina complete score...You know, I would have nothing against a newly expanded edition of Sabrina. The OST is a very good listening experience and it's a very nice piece on itself, but it's a very different presentation than what was written for the actual film. It reminds the concept of the soundtrack album of the 1960s.The film cues are quite different from their counterpart on CD and I'd love to listen to a "Original Film Recording" version of this score.I'm sure it will eventually happen. I may not be around to see it, but one I predict Williams fans will be playing it in whatever format is available at the time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff 10 Posted January 28, 2011 Share Posted January 28, 2011 I fell in love with the Theme from Sabrina, and hence the film itself, from the moment the piano started playing over the Long Island montage at the beginning of the film the first time I saw it. I still love playing the theme on the piano any chance I get. And hearing Williams conduct it live at the Hollywood Bowl last year was one of the highlights of my three decades on the planet. What a fantastic score! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh500 1,615 Posted January 28, 2011 Share Posted January 28, 2011 I fell in love with the Theme from Sabrina, and hence the film itself, from the moment the piano started playing over the Long Island montage at the beginning of the film the first time I saw it. I still love playing the theme on the piano any chance I get. And hearing Williams conduct it live at the Hollywood Bowl last year was one of the highlights of my three decades on the planet. What a fantastic score!Is the Sabrina Main Theme, the original arrangement, for 1 or 2 pianos? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff 10 Posted January 28, 2011 Share Posted January 28, 2011 I fell in love with the Theme from Sabrina, and hence the film itself, from the moment the piano started playing over the Long Island montage at the beginning of the film the first time I saw it. I still love playing the theme on the piano any chance I get. And hearing Williams conduct it live at the Hollywood Bowl last year was one of the highlights of my three decades on the planet. What a fantastic score!Is the Sabrina Main Theme, the original arrangement, for 1 or 2 pianos?I'm not sure if there is a 2 piano arrangement, but I have the standard 1-piano sheet music. It's a beautiful arrangement and has all the major elements of the theme. I'll add that it's slightly more difficult than the average Williams arrangement (e.g., more difficult than Raiders' March or Jurassic Park Theme, but less difficult than Tie Fighter Attack). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miguel Andrade 1,264 Posted January 28, 2011 Share Posted January 28, 2011 Is the Sabrina Main Theme, the original arrangement, for 1 or 2 pianos?One piano. I have a recording of Williams himself playing it, with Seiji Ozawa conducting the Boston Symphony Orchestra. Amazing performance, even better than the soundtrack one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gkgyver 1,646 Posted January 29, 2011 Share Posted January 29, 2011 How Can I Remember is one gorgeous song. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted January 29, 2011 Share Posted January 29, 2011 I fell in love with the Theme from Sabrina, and hence the film itself, from the moment the piano started playing over the Long Island montage at the beginning of the film the first time I saw it. I still love playing the theme on the piano any chance I get. And hearing Williams conduct it live at the Hollywood Bowl last year was one of the highlights of my three decades on the planet. What a fantastic score!I enjoy the movie as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh500 1,615 Posted January 29, 2011 Share Posted January 29, 2011 Is the Sabrina Main Theme, the original arrangement, for 1 or 2 pianos?One piano. I have a recording of Williams himself playing it, with Seiji Ozawa conducting the Boston Symphony Orchestra. Amazing performance, even better than the soundtrack one.OK. The piano part is so complex, I've been wondering whether 2 pianos were utilized, kinda like with Dvorak's Slavonic Dances! I'll add that it's slightly more difficult than the average Williams arrangement (e.g., more difficult than Raiders' March or Jurassic Park Theme, but less difficult than Tie Fighter Attack).You mean difficult for the piano player? Or in general?I don't think this is particularly difficult to play (not that it's easy, either). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff 10 Posted January 30, 2011 Share Posted January 30, 2011 Yes, I meant difficult for a piano player (I'm struggling to figure out what "in general" would mean). If you don't think it's particularly difficult to play, you are probably a good pianist. I'm by no means a concert pianist, but I like to play. I buy a lot of sheet music and compilation piano books with Williams music in them, and I think Theme from Sabrina is more difficult than the average for his music. There are some of his songs that I can't play, or at least it would take me far too long than it's worth to learn. There are others that I could sight read. This is somewhere in the upper half of the spectrum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh500 1,615 Posted January 30, 2011 Share Posted January 30, 2011 Yes, I meant difficult for a piano player (I'm struggling to figure out what "in general" would mean). If you don't think it's particularly difficult to play, you are probably a good pianist. I'm by no means a concert pianist, but I like to play. I buy a lot of sheet music and compilation piano books with Williams music in them, and I think Theme from Sabrina is more difficult than the average for his music. There are some of his songs that I can't play, or at least it would take me far too long than it's worth to learn. There are others that I could sight read. This is somewhere in the upper half of the spectrum.By "in general" I meant, for all the players in the orchestra. Well, for a JW piece, it might be slightly more difficult than what he usually writes, but if you are a professional pianist who plays Chopin, Mozart, Beethoven sonatas, etc., this is quite easy, actually. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TownerFan 4,985 Posted January 30, 2011 Share Posted January 30, 2011 Just for the record: Williams plays the piano solo part on "Theme from Sabrina" on the OST as well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff 10 Posted January 30, 2011 Share Posted January 30, 2011 Just for the record: Williams plays the piano solo part on "Theme from Sabrina" on the OST as well Ah, that is good to know. Makes it all the more meaningful.By "in general" I meant, for all the players in the orchestra. Well, for a JW piece, it might be slightly more difficult than what he usually writes, but if you are a professional pianist who plays Chopin, Mozart, Beethoven sonatas, etc., this is quite easy, actually. Ok, it all makes sense now.Yes, of course for a real pianist it's all cake. For amateurs like me it takes a bit of work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted January 30, 2011 Share Posted January 30, 2011 The Cinema Serenade version of Sabrina's theme is pretty great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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