Henry B 51 Posted September 5, 2012 Share Posted September 5, 2012 I don't think the Destroyer recording is totally horrible. The orchestra is smaller than it should be, but it's still performed professionally. I don't recall any severe performance mistakes (though I only know the 30 minute OST). I also think the OST has a very dry, artificial sounding mix. That's something Intrada will probably correct.However, Tadlow's recording is excellent, and is worth it for the Sword and Sorcery Suite if nothing else. Alishia.Duffield 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,358 Posted September 5, 2012 Share Posted September 5, 2012 I'm not sure I want or need the new Intrada release. I'll wait and see what the response is and, more importantly, sound quality. Until then I've got what could be my definite edition.Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,360 Posted September 5, 2012 Share Posted September 5, 2012 I'm absolutely getting Barbarian the minute it comes out. For Destroyer I'll probably wait Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Brausam 216 Posted September 6, 2012 Share Posted September 6, 2012 Barbarian is definitely one that I want the original recording for, even though I love the Tadlow version. Destroyer is something I can wait for too, because to me the Tadlow is absolutely definitive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henry B 51 Posted September 6, 2012 Share Posted September 6, 2012 Yeah, Barbarian is absolutely worth it for the performance. Imperfect, but beautiful. Actually, there's only one thing that really bugs me: the cadences in "Recovery." It's supposed to be on a major third, but about half the orchestra plays it flat. It happens both times. (0:46, 1:45.) I wonder if that's one of the mistakes that's going to be digitally corrected. I don't care about purism; if there's anything that can be done about that egregious error, let it be done.But aside from that? It's a really good recording. The challenging trumpet parts, the extra percussion, the choir in "Cantigas de Santa Maria" ... while it's really cool to hear those on Tadlow's recording, I can't say I find the original recording lacking. All of those things are special effects, icing. The core elements of the score are totally in place in the original recording: the lush string section, the emotive woodwind solos, the explosive brass, etc. Also:unused versions of the entire "Children Of Doom" sequence written for mezzo-soprano with chamber orchestra as well as for female choir with harp (including a gorgeous, never-before-heard bridge passage for woodwinds) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 38,660 Posted October 24, 2012 Share Posted October 24, 2012 Roger just said this on the Intrada boardsSoon, man. Very soon.Source: http://www.intrada.net/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?p=61137#p61137So I'm guessing it'll be in their Nov 13th or Nov 27th batch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ollie 1,106 Posted November 22, 2012 Share Posted November 22, 2012 Tracklisting for the disc:http://www.underscor...t-tracklisting/]CD1COMPLETE SCOREPrologue / Anvil Of Crom (03:39)01. 02. Riddle Of Steel / Riders Of Doom (05:40)03. Gift Of Fury (03:51)04. Column Of Sadness / Wheel Of Pain (04:10)05. Pit Fights (02:40)06. The Discipline Of Steel / Freedom Council (01:38)07. Atlantean Sword (04:01)08. Warm Welcome (02:06)09. Wolf Witch (03:10)10. Theology / Civilization (03:14)11. Street Of Deviants (00:29)12. Hopefuls At The Tower Of Set (02:22)13. The Tower Of Set (05:38)14. The Snake / Infidels (02:01)15. The Tavern (01:14)16. Wifeing (Love Theme From Conan The Barbarian) (02:11)17. Indulgence / Mettle (01:15)18. The Hall Of King Osric (01:23)19. The Leaving / The Search (05:58)Total Time : 56:51CD201. The Mountain Of Power Procession (03:22)02. Capture (00:52)03. Tree Of Woe / Recovery (05:46)04. Warpaint (01:01)05. The Kitchen / The Orgy (06:30)06. The Defilers (05:16)07. Funeral Pyre (04:32)08. Battle Of The Mounds - Part I (04:52)09. Battle Of The Mounds - Part II (02:16)10. Battle Of The Mounds - Part III (Revised) / Night Of Doom (05:36)11. Head Chop (00:57)12. Orphans Of Doom / The Awakening (05:33)13. Conan The King / End Title (05:28)Score Time : 52:04THE EXTRAS14. Prologue (First Version) (00:46)15. Anvil Of Crom (First Version) (02:31)16. The Tower Of Set - Part I (First Version) (03:46)17. Battle Of The Mounds - Part II (First Version) (02:16)18. Battle Of The Mounds - Part III (First Version) (03:03)19. Orphans Of Doom (Orchestra & Solo Voice) (01:22)20. Orphans Of Doom (Chorus & Harp) / The Awakening (First Version) (06:45)21. Las Cantigas de Santa Maria (The Snake) (06:05)Extras Time : 26:41Total Time : 78:45CD3ORIGINAL 1982 SOUNDTRACK ALBUM01. Anvil Of Crom (02:35)02. Riddle Of Steel / Riders Of Doom (05:38)03. Gift Of Fury (03:51)04. Wheel Of Pain (04:10)05. Atlantean Sword (03:51)06. Theology / Civilization (03:14)07. Wifeing (Love Theme From Conan The Barbarian) (02:11)08. The Search (03:09)09. The Orgy (04:16)10. Funeral Pyre (04:30)11. Battle Of The Mounds (04:54)12. Orphans Of Doom / The Awakening (05:32)Total Album Time : 48:17ONE LAST EXTRA13. Prologue (with narration) / Anvil Of Crom (03:39)Total Time : 52:06 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,360 Posted November 22, 2012 Share Posted November 22, 2012 Nice, though as far as I'm concerned the prologue with narration should have been track 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ollie 1,106 Posted November 22, 2012 Share Posted November 22, 2012 Nah, stuff with dialogue needs to be relegated to the bonus tracks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,360 Posted November 22, 2012 Share Posted November 22, 2012 Normally I'd agree, but I really love that narration, and how it leads into the booming percussive statements of the opening theme."Let me tell you of the days of high adventuuuurrreee" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alishia.Duffield 0 Posted November 22, 2012 Share Posted November 22, 2012 Terrific work! This is the type of info that should be shared around the internet. Shame on Google for not positioning this post higher! Come on over and visit my site . Thanks =) best wishes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 38,660 Posted November 22, 2012 Share Posted November 22, 2012 Agree with Mark, disagree with Stefan. Glad it's in the bonus track section. Easy enough for anyone to swap in their media player of choice Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,358 Posted November 22, 2012 Share Posted November 22, 2012 Alishia.Duffield is on fire this week. Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dean1700 4 Posted November 22, 2012 Author Share Posted November 22, 2012 Nope. I have to agree with Stefan. Mako's narration should have been Track 1. In saying that I'm just glad they have included it at all. Am so looking forward to this.Agree with Mark, disagree with Stefan. Glad it's in the bonus track section. Easy enough for anyone to swap in their media player of choice Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Skywalker 1,925 Posted November 22, 2012 Share Posted November 22, 2012 i agree with stefan.That's the point of re-re-re-releasing the original OST within this set.Otherwise they could just have put the dialogue version as bonus track and spare one CD. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,254 Posted November 22, 2012 Share Posted November 22, 2012 Don't understand what you mean. Just cause you guys have a nostalgic fetish for the film doesn't mean the dialogue belongs with the music. Watch the movie if you want to hear it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Skywalker 1,925 Posted November 22, 2012 Share Posted November 22, 2012 Don't understand what you mean. Just cause you guys have a nostalgic fetish for the film doesn't mean the dialogue belongs with the music. Watch the movie if you want to hear it.the OST presentation is there for nostalgic reasons.It that the dialogue in the past it should have the dialogue now.As of now, it's a useless CD that one could create on its own with the score cues or just play the old CD. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admiral Holdo 16 Posted November 22, 2012 Share Posted November 22, 2012 Err, not quite - the OST has some editing differences from the score as presented on the first couple discs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonesy 55 Posted November 22, 2012 Share Posted November 22, 2012 Also, OST tracks should have clean openings and/or clean endings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Skywalker 1,925 Posted November 22, 2012 Share Posted November 22, 2012 regardless, you either preserve the original OST presentation or completely ditch the idea of adding one innecessary disc to the set.I'm sure this set will not have a hobbit SE price but a 3CD set price. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonesy 55 Posted November 22, 2012 Share Posted November 22, 2012 I think this should have two discs, the third one might be considered unnecessary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henry B 51 Posted November 23, 2012 Share Posted November 23, 2012 Oh, man. I can't to hear those "Orphans of Doom" alternates. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ST-321 4 Posted November 23, 2012 Share Posted November 23, 2012 When is this coming out? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 38,660 Posted November 23, 2012 Share Posted November 23, 2012 You can order it Monday night, ships Tuesday Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KK 3,307 Posted November 23, 2012 Share Posted November 23, 2012 I might get this, might not. Depends on my situation.Personally, I'm really pleased with my Tadlow re-recordings. They just nailed this score. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustCarl 0 Posted November 23, 2012 Share Posted November 23, 2012 regardless, you either preserve the original OST presentation or completely ditch the idea of adding one innecessary disc to the set.I'm sure this set will not have a hobbit SE price but a 3CD set price.They did preserve the original OST. The prologue/dialog was not on the MCA LP or the Varese CD. It was just something Milan stuck on there. Either way, the prologue is there with the main title as an alternate...so what's the big deal? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melange 448 Posted November 23, 2012 Share Posted November 23, 2012 I probably said otherwise months ago, but they might just manage to sell this haga to a slayer such as me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dean1700 4 Posted November 24, 2012 Author Share Posted November 24, 2012 There will be a price to pay, barbarian. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy 4,958 Posted November 27, 2012 Share Posted November 27, 2012 It's up! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,358 Posted November 27, 2012 Share Posted November 27, 2012 $29.99 is not a bad price. I'll wait for the reactions and see if I want this. For now, Tadlow does just fine for me. Altough, I have to admit even the samples show there is indeed a difference in sound.Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fozmo 13 Posted November 27, 2012 Share Posted November 27, 2012 So ordered. The samples sound amazing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Skywalker 1,925 Posted November 27, 2012 Share Posted November 27, 2012 i've accustomed to the tadlow now... and the original recording sounds trange now...im not sure...and the extra price for the useless OST...it's a shame tadlow had to set the lyrics by ear, that's my only complain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonesy 55 Posted November 27, 2012 Share Posted November 27, 2012 Yes, the re-recording is so awesome. But I'm curious about the unused music. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wojo 2,456 Posted November 27, 2012 Share Posted November 27, 2012 Since Barbarian is MAF, I will wait. I have bought more than enough recently out of concern for either a really good sale or because it would go OOP, which it did. This will be here awhile. Besides, I might need to save a few for Santa to bring me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Omen II 1,249 Posted July 2, 2015 Share Posted July 2, 2015 Naxos has announced a new CD featuring the score for Conan the Barbarian transcribed for organ. And why the hell not? Gotta be worth a punt.http://www.naxos.com/catalogue/item.asp?item_code=8.573444I was not sure where to put this, so plumped for this thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Skywalker 1,925 Posted July 2, 2015 Share Posted July 2, 2015 What happened to intrada's 'Conan the destroyer'? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 38,660 Posted July 3, 2015 Share Posted July 3, 2015 They haven't made any public comments on it in years now that I've seen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wojo 2,456 Posted July 3, 2015 Share Posted July 3, 2015 I don't think it's necessary. The Tadlow rerecording is superior. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Skywalker 1,925 Posted July 4, 2015 Share Posted July 4, 2015 Maybe tadlow and Intrada cae to an agreement. So intrada will release it in a few years, after taldow has made it's money out of his recording.I remember that when destroyer or both conans were announced by intrada, it sounded like a backstab for taldow, since they announced it very close to taldow's release, and it would affect sales a lot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,360 Posted July 4, 2015 Share Posted July 4, 2015 Wouldn't that be like cartel forming? Secret deals between rival companies that stiffle free enterprise and competition?Tadlow, being a European company would certainly be breaking EU regulations if this were the case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,540 Posted July 4, 2015 Share Posted July 4, 2015 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corellian2019 401 Posted November 16, 2017 Share Posted November 16, 2017 A bit of positive news from Roger about the status of Destroyer:Â http://filmscoremonthly.com/board/posts.cfm?forumID=1&pageID=4&threadID=123828&archive=0Â (last post) Â Quote It's still going through its endless clearance, but packaging and master is all done. As it has been for well over a year! Â Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ollie 1,106 Posted November 16, 2017 Share Posted November 16, 2017 I was beginning to regret selling my Varèse CD. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 38,660 Posted November 16, 2017 Share Posted November 16, 2017 Not only that, but Ford Thaxton has chosen to publicly criticize Intrada for even deciding to release it:  FSMer: Quote Still waiting for Conan the Destroyer here. I'm getting old, dudes!   Ford Thaxton: Quote It's been here for awhile, the PROMETHEUS album is a vastly superior performance then the OST. Basil HATED that recording with a passion. Ford A. Thaxton   Roger Feigelson, Intrada: Quote I'm not sure what the point of this post is. Is to say that because Basil hated the original soundtrack it shouldn't be released? Or that because he hated it we all should hate it? Personally I have no issue with it. It's not as if the orchestra hits any wrong notes in the performance. The performance nuances that drove him bananas aren't something most of us would notice because only he knows the sound he was trying to get. We only know what it is. It's still going through its endless clearance, but packaging and master is all done. As it has been for well over a year!   Ford: Quote Quote I'm not sure what the point of this post is. Is to say that because Basil hated the original soundtrack it shouldn't be released? Or that because he hated it we all should hate it?  Roger, He hated the recording, the orchestra wasn't very good, as a matter of fact that's one of the reasons that the Main Title wasn't included on the original album, as I recall they did seven or eight takes and he just gave up and hope it would be buried under the sound effects of the horses in the titles sequence.  Quote Personally I have no issue with it. It's not as if the orchestra hits any wrong notes in the performance. The performance nuances that drove him bananas aren't something most of us would notice because only he knows the sound he was trying to get. We only know what it is. It's still going through its endless clearance, but packaging and master is all done. As it has been for well over a year! Oh, so we should just ignore him on this topic? OK Ford A. Thaxton   JWfan's own @OneBuckFilms: Quote I don't think it's about ignoring his thoughts, but placing them in the perspective of preserving and presenting a beloved, if flawed work.   Ford: Quote No, it's just ignoring him.. If that's what you wish to do, go ahead. Ford A. Thaxton      Roger & @OneBuckFilms are 100% right on this issue and Ford is 100% wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,360 Posted November 16, 2017 Share Posted November 16, 2017 Fuck. FSM bullshit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A. A. Ron 1,814 Posted November 16, 2017 Share Posted November 16, 2017 Ford's an asshat, but he's not "100% wrong." Basil did hate the Destroyer recording. James Fitzpatrick talked about it when Prometheus did their recording. Whether the original recording should have an archival release is absolutely subjective. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 38,660 Posted November 16, 2017 Share Posted November 16, 2017 I'm not saying Ford is wrong about Basil hating the recording - but that fact is irrelevant. Onebuck perfectly explained why it deserves to be released anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,360 Posted November 16, 2017 Share Posted November 16, 2017 I agree with Ford! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 38,660 Posted November 16, 2017 Share Posted November 16, 2017 You think that Intrada should not release an expanded version of Conan The Destroyer because Basil was unhappy with the orchestra's performance? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ollie 1,106 Posted November 16, 2017 Share Posted November 16, 2017 While he may have hated it, I don’t see anyone stating he did not want it released. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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