Nick Parker 3,040 Posted September 19, 2018 Share Posted September 19, 2018 9 hours ago, Romão said: I have to check that version. The book remains one of my all time favorites You're probably really familiar with the Herrmann opera, yeah? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted September 19, 2018 Share Posted September 19, 2018 Flightplan You kind of enjoy not knowing what's going on until the big reveal and you're like "is that all?" The passengers all seemed to get their entertainment's worth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted September 19, 2018 Share Posted September 19, 2018 Blade I know this has some kind of a cult following, but I didn't think it was all that good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt C 455 Posted September 19, 2018 Share Posted September 19, 2018 On 9/17/2018 at 3:15 PM, crocodile said: Brendan Fraser and Rachel Weisz are very likeable on screen. Karol 1 And her last name is pronounced as 'Vice.' 😳 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted September 19, 2018 Share Posted September 19, 2018 I've seen her fanny before. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Illustrious Jerry 3,356 Posted September 19, 2018 Share Posted September 19, 2018 I'm not a fan of Harry Potter, but I'm going through the movies right now. Harry Potter and the Prisoner of Kazakhstan (or something like that) Similar set up to its two predecessors- The Philosopher's Rock and The Chamber of Stuff- in that it begins with a catastrophic use of magic amongst the Dursleys, Harry somehow gets to where he needs to be by means of an enchanted vehicle, he gets to school and whammo a new dark arts professor (bad history there), Quidditch matches, Christmas at Hogwarts, Snape acts like an ass but then turns out to have actually been helping people, Harry Potter faints so that they don't have to explain an extended period of time (speaking of which the time travelling was super confusing-why was Hermione allowed to be seen time travelling before but when she does it with Harry they have to stay out of sight?).John Williams (blessed be) is the saving fate of this movie and its otherwise a disappointing film. Fans may say what they will, but this is Jerry's honest opinion. Hoping for better things later in the series (I'm told they will come). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted September 19, 2018 Share Posted September 19, 2018 Its the best of these Potter films. Not Mr. Big 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John 2,032 Posted September 19, 2018 Share Posted September 19, 2018 It’s a fine film. I don’t understand why Jerry has a problem with it. The Illustrious Jerry 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Parker 3,040 Posted September 19, 2018 Share Posted September 19, 2018 20 minutes ago, The Illustrious Jerry said: Hoping for better things later in the series (I'm told they will come). Were you also told by a homeless dude with a rag that you would attract all the ladies if you got your shoes shined by him? Not Mr. Big 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted September 19, 2018 Share Posted September 19, 2018 It's darker and more disturbing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted September 19, 2018 Share Posted September 19, 2018 5 minutes ago, John said: It’s a fine film. I don’t understand why Jerry has a problem with it. He doesn't actually mention what his issues with it are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweeping Strings 2,363 Posted September 19, 2018 Share Posted September 19, 2018 On 9/18/2018 at 6:34 AM, Richard said: DOCTOR WHO: THE MOVIE. I wish I hadn't. Why did I do it to myself? McGann is great, though. And finally, the budget to do the Tardis interior justice! Naïve Old Fart 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeinAR 1,949 Posted September 19, 2018 Share Posted September 19, 2018 2 hours ago, Stefancos said: Its the best of these Potter films. No I find it the least enjoyable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chen G. 3,950 Posted September 19, 2018 Share Posted September 19, 2018 There are other films in the series that can claim to the title of the best entry. Namely, The Order of the Phoenix, and possibly even The Half-Blood Prince. But I'd say yes, The Prisoner of Azkaban is probably the best. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick1Ø66 4,720 Posted September 19, 2018 Share Posted September 19, 2018 Artistically and objectively speaking, I'd say POA is the best. That's what you're supposed to say anyway, right? It's become sacrilege to say otherwise, and frankly, if you're a real student of cinema, you can see just how well made that film is, and on how many levels it manages to succeed. Truthfully speaking though, as a matter of pure enjoyment, from my perspective I enjoyed OOTP and probably a couple of the other Yates films more. And that one definitely doesn't say in polite film society. It's like my sister's insistence that Jaws 2 is better than Jaws. Wrong, perhaps, but de gustibus non eat disputandum, eh? Chen G. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted September 19, 2018 Share Posted September 19, 2018 Chamber of Secrets was the best one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,551 Posted September 19, 2018 Share Posted September 19, 2018 No argument, there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chen G. 3,950 Posted September 19, 2018 Share Posted September 19, 2018 33 minutes ago, Nick1066 said: I enjoyed OOTP and probably a couple of the other Yates films more. Its possible that upon rewatch I'll find that I like Order of the Phoenix more, as well. Although that film, like The Half-Blood Prince, was a grower for me: I wasn't taken-in on first viewing. But upon rewatch? fantastic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Illustrious Jerry 3,356 Posted September 19, 2018 Share Posted September 19, 2018 4 hours ago, John said: It’s a fine film. I don’t understand why Jerry has a problem with it. Oh John! Will we ever agree? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chen G. 3,950 Posted September 19, 2018 Share Posted September 19, 2018 There's no problem in having a disagreement, but its worthwhile for both sides to present their arguments, in hope of an inteligible discussion. I, for one, would be very much interested in the reasons as to why you didn't like the film. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Illustrious Jerry 3,356 Posted September 19, 2018 Share Posted September 19, 2018 I never caught on to Harry Potter. I'm already an avid SW, Middle Earth fan so anything more would be too much fandom for me. Not my cup of tea although I do acknowledge that they were a cultural phenomena. I don't hate them, I kind of dislike them, and some parts are good. I hate arguing because a lot of times my reasons aren't tangible to others. I was merely commenting on the fact that John and I always seem to oppose, with all respect and good tidings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeinAR 1,949 Posted September 19, 2018 Share Posted September 19, 2018 1972's Tales From The Crypt. Thoroughly entertaining B horror films with way to red blood and over the top fiendishness. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chen G. 3,950 Posted September 19, 2018 Share Posted September 19, 2018 2 hours ago, The Illustrious Jerry said: I never caught on to Harry Potter. Same here. I gave up on the books very early on, and didn't continue following up the films shortly thereafter. But having rewatched them (in fact in this time of year, which is a holidays' time here) I found a couple of them outright great, including the film you express dislike to; and as a series (Fantastic Beasts currently notwithstanding), it actually has a better overarching ebb-and-flow than, say, Star Wars ever did or would. That isn't to say that I can't understand your dislike, if you only explain why you dislike this particular film. I'm genuinely interested. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,345 Posted September 20, 2018 Share Posted September 20, 2018 9 hours ago, Chen G. said: Its possible that upon rewatch I'll find that I like Order of the Phoenix more, as well. Although that film, like The Half-Blood Prince, was a grower for me: I wasn't taken-in on first viewing. But upon rewatch? fantastic. It's really not that complicated. They're kids movies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted September 20, 2018 Share Posted September 20, 2018 The latter ones are basically young adults movies, so yeah. Nothing too complicated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,551 Posted September 20, 2018 Share Posted September 20, 2018 9 hours ago, JoeinAR said: 1972's Tales From The Crypt. Thoroughly entertaining B horror films with way to red blood and over the top fiendishness. That's Freddie Francis, and that's Amicus, for you: Hammer's little cousin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,345 Posted September 20, 2018 Share Posted September 20, 2018 16 minutes ago, Stefancos said: The latter ones are basically young adults movies... Young to mid teens, I'd say. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted September 20, 2018 Share Posted September 20, 2018 I don't like the looks of those teenagers... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted September 20, 2018 Share Posted September 20, 2018 43 minutes ago, Alexcremers said: Young to mid teens, I'd say. The Twilight crowd Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chen G. 3,950 Posted September 20, 2018 Share Posted September 20, 2018 5 hours ago, Alexcremers said: It's really not that complicated. They're kids movies. It’s not at all complicated. It’s just that I felt more affected by the film the second time around. I suppose some of it stems from knowing where the story ends, after having watched all eight films previously. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted September 20, 2018 Share Posted September 20, 2018 I never finished Harry Potter and don't actually know how it all ends other than I know Hagrid dies. I think I got as far as Order of the Phoenix. Which was the one with the big camp site scene? That's the last movie I saw. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted September 20, 2018 Share Posted September 20, 2018 Hermione's death was heartbreaking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holko 9,529 Posted September 20, 2018 Share Posted September 20, 2018 But Sirius' resurrection made up for it. Indy trilogy Raiders is the only one which can be called masterful filmmaking all the way through, but Temple of Doom is so much more interesting and fun on the whole! Every dial of every aspect is turned up to 15 out of 10, I'm at a loss how anyone could hate it. Everything in it is finetuned to make fun of itself and entertain you, except on the lowest point of its story arc where it genuinely succeeds in making you feel down, only to bring you back up with a nonstop action-adventure barrage. I didn't like Last Crusade that much this time around. Connery is the best part, but it's mostly a Raiders retread with writing, acting and effects probably the weakest in the whole trilogy. The temple is really underwhelming - oh, you need markers and maps and long-destroyed cities to find this hidden place where no one has set foot in a thousand years - oh, it's just Petra, my neighbor's been there on holiday. I don't know if it was that known in '89, but was it that much cheaper to get everyone down to Jordan than to make a few creative matte paintings with the lower facade of the made up building recreated in some Arizona or Nevada rocks, or even on a backlot? Seems insignificant to ramble on about, but it really takes the weight of the third act away, even if the pitch-perfectly staged gunshot reclaims it and then some. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted September 20, 2018 Share Posted September 20, 2018 9 minutes ago, Holko said: Temple of Doom is so much more interesting and fun on the whole! I'm at a loss how anyone could hate it. How are people who take themselves very seriously supposed to extract any sort of enjoyment out of it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chen G. 3,950 Posted September 20, 2018 Share Posted September 20, 2018 48 minutes ago, Holko said: I didn't like Last Crusade that much this time around. Connery is the best part, but it's mostly a Raiders retread with writing, acting and effects probably the weakest in the whole trilogy. The temple is really underwhelming[...]Its just Petra. Interesting perspective. I'd say its the best of three. Its plot retreads a lot of Raiders, granted, but the story is simultaneousy more funny and more weighty. It also balances a larger cast more effectivelly, with Salah, Brody, the Villain and the Femme Fatale all making their contributions to the plot, and the end notes are such a wonderful conclusion of this series, that they should have made anyone working on Kingdom of the Crystal Skull resign, if they ever saw them during pre-production. I didn't have problem with the location of Petra, even though its probably a four or five hours from my home by car. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick1Ø66 4,720 Posted September 20, 2018 Share Posted September 20, 2018 What struck me most in my last rewatch of these movies is how different the character of Indy is in Temple of Doom and Last Crusade vs. Raiders. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holko 9,529 Posted September 20, 2018 Share Posted September 20, 2018 Oh, one more thing, Crusade has the only moment in the trilogy where I cannot suspend my disbelief: the Path of God. Inflating boats surviving jumps, hearts being ripped out with the subject surviving and the kind are perfectly consistent with the plot armor and "movie logic" the kind of movies Temple already proved itself to be usually have. Even only certain letters crumbling, when we see from underneath none of them have any support is acceptable. But forced perspective is a very fickle thing, and as it's shown, doesn't work when the viewer moves. It only works when the subject viewing it has one eye, doesn't breathe, and is exactly the height the trick was designed for. Indy already fails the first of these criteria: he has spatial vision, he should see the bloody bridge! If it was spotless, dustless, perfect glass or a mirror or something, I'd accept that more easily than this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chen G. 3,950 Posted September 20, 2018 Share Posted September 20, 2018 10 minutes ago, Holko said: But forced perspective is a very fickle thing Sure, but I'm not one to let an individual story beat taint the entirety of a story. Nick1Ø66 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick1Ø66 4,720 Posted September 20, 2018 Share Posted September 20, 2018 28 minutes ago, Holko said: Oh, one more thing, Crusade has the only moment in the trilogy where I cannot suspend my disbelief: the Path of God. It was the power of God...or something. Didn't you go to Sunday school? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holko 9,529 Posted September 20, 2018 Share Posted September 20, 2018 8 minutes ago, Nick1066 said: Didn't you go to Sunday school? 44 minutes ago, Nick1066 said: how different the character of Indy is in Temple of Doom Well he is one year younger... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Illustrious Jerry 3,356 Posted September 20, 2018 Share Posted September 20, 2018 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,551 Posted September 20, 2018 Share Posted September 20, 2018 As any Biblical scholar will tell you, Moses did not put the broken pieces in the ark. He went back up Mt. Horeb, and had a second set made. God would never tolerate something tainted or broken, in his home, which, to the Hebrews, was what the Ark was. It's all there, in Exodus 34. I've always wondered why they got that bit wrong. Was it deliberate? The Illustrious Jerry 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted September 20, 2018 Share Posted September 20, 2018 So how'd that conversation go? Was Moses a bit nervous having to ask for a second pair of tablets made after he broke the last set? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holko 9,529 Posted September 20, 2018 Share Posted September 20, 2018 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeinAR 1,949 Posted September 20, 2018 Share Posted September 20, 2018 5 hours ago, Quintus said: I never finished Harry Potter and don't actually know how it all ends other than I know Hagrid dies. I think I got as far as Order of the Phoenix. Which was the one with the big camp site scene? That's the last movie I saw. Hagrid doesn't die and the one with the big camp scene was Goblet of Fire which is before Order. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted September 20, 2018 Share Posted September 20, 2018 Hehehe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted September 20, 2018 Share Posted September 20, 2018 3 hours ago, Chen G. said: I'd say its the best of three. Of course you do! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,372 Posted September 20, 2018 Share Posted September 20, 2018 6 hours ago, Quintus said: I never finished Harry Potter and don't actually know how it all ends other than I know Hagrid dies. I think I got as far as Order of the Phoenix. Which was the one with the big camp site scene? That's the last movie I saw. Hagrid doesn't die, and the camping scenes are in the 7th movie; there's only 8 movies so you only missed the last one. 3 hours ago, Nick1066 said: What struck me most in my last rewatch of these movies is how different the character of Indy is in Temple of Doom and Last Crusade vs. Raiders. Can you elaborate on that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted September 20, 2018 Share Posted September 20, 2018 2 minutes ago, Jay said: Can you elaborate on that? Seconded! If anything the character is a bit different in TLC (and KOCS) than the first two, where there's a slightly shady aspect to Indy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick1Ø66 4,720 Posted September 20, 2018 Share Posted September 20, 2018 48 minutes ago, Jay said: Can you elaborate on that? Well in Raiders, Indy always struck me as more of an academic first and an adventurer second. To this end, he was a little nerdish and awkward...I'm thinking of his "Am I in some kind of trouble" to Marcus, his shy and awkward moments with Marion on the freighter, and his generally disarming nature as an "everyman" who gets swept of into adventures for work. In TOD, he's much more of straight up tough guy adventurer looking for his "fortune and glory". There's almost a James Bond vibe about him. I guess you could argue that since this is technically a prequel, he'd changed by the of Raiders, but I didn't see that character development on the screen. And in both TOD and Last Crusade he's much more of a ladies man than he is in Raiders (perhaps necessitated by GL's decision to have a different "Indy girl" for each film). He even exudes a kind of arrogance. It also always bothered me a bit that in TOD he's regarded as some sort of famous archaeologist. It sort of reminds me of when in one of the lesser Moore films (can't remember which one) Bond was referred to as the "famous secret agent". These are just minor observations, I love all three films, but I do think what the character fundamentally was in Raiders shifted a bit. Chen G. and SteveMc 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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