Chen G. 3,984 Posted November 3, 2018 Share Posted November 3, 2018 Whatever. It has no subtlety: not thematically, not visually or otherwise. The closest it gets to subtlety is by withholding gore, a restraint it also sheds at some point. Does all of this make it any less great? No. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Illustrious Jerry 3,356 Posted November 3, 2018 Share Posted November 3, 2018 Close Encounters of the Third Kind Well I saw it. It's good, it's confusing. I'm not sure where I stand on the story-line really, as I was a bit estranged for most of the film. But there were some killer scenes, namely: So at the end of the day I didn't quite get it all, but it was some awesome film making. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holko 9,547 Posted November 3, 2018 Share Posted November 3, 2018 Which cut did you end up watching? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chen G. 3,984 Posted November 3, 2018 Share Posted November 3, 2018 5 minutes ago, The Illustrious Jerry said: I'm not sure where I stand on the story-line really What storyline?! For 90% of this film's runtime absolutely NOTHING happens. That's the greatness of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Illustrious Jerry 3,356 Posted November 3, 2018 Share Posted November 3, 2018 Just now, Chen G. said: What storyline?! For 90% of this film's runtime absolutely NOTHING happens. That's the greatness of it. Blazes! I'm confused. I cannot say I love it, but it was very effective. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holko 9,547 Posted November 3, 2018 Share Posted November 3, 2018 The only place where I think it actually drags is where Roy and Jillian struggle to climb up the slope, Roy slides back and such. They are there, they got through everything, we know both of them will make it to the base, get on with it already! It's a pointless cliché, you'd lose nothing without it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Illustrious Jerry 3,356 Posted November 3, 2018 Share Posted November 3, 2018 6 minutes ago, Holko said: Which cut did you end up watching? I did the theatrical version. What did you say I should've done again? I forgot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holko 9,547 Posted November 3, 2018 Share Posted November 3, 2018 Theatrical is a tighter, better film experience in my opinion. Collector's cut focuses more on the not very well done family drama. There's probably a great balance somewhere between the two with some additional deleted (and unreleased!) scenes like the stargazing, but overall I prefer the theatrical. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Illustrious Jerry 3,356 Posted November 3, 2018 Share Posted November 3, 2018 Just now, Holko said: Theatrical is a tighter, better film experience in my opinion. Collector's cut focuses more on the not very well done family drama. There's probably a great balance somewhere between the two with some additional deleted (and unreleased!) scenes like the stargazing, but overall I prefer the theatrical. There was a Theatrical, Special Edition, and Directors Cut. Oh, and the score was pretty good too. There were a lot of quiet scenes that ran silent, but that theme is all too memorable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holko 9,547 Posted November 3, 2018 Share Posted November 3, 2018 The Special Edition is more like the Director's, but adds a scene inside the mothership, a widely disliked decision forced by the studio to sell the new cut. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Illustrious Jerry 3,356 Posted November 3, 2018 Share Posted November 3, 2018 It was funny how in that conference room when this guy said he'd seen Bigfoot all the cameras turned on him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,623 Posted November 3, 2018 Share Posted November 3, 2018 17 minutes ago, The Illustrious Jerry said: Close Encounters of the Third Kind Well I saw it. It's good, it's confusing. I'm not sure where I stand on the story-line really, as I was a bit estranged for most of the film. But there were some killer scenes, namely: So at the end of the day I didn't quite get it all, but it was some awesome film making. There's not much to get, Jerry: boy sees UFO, boy obsesses about UFO, boy looses family, boy gains a friend, friend gets her son back, boy lives happily ever after, on a fuck-off spaceship. All that Laçombe stuff, is window dressing. 11 minutes ago, Holko said: The only place where I think it actually drags is where Roy and Jillian struggle to climb up the slope, Roy slides back and such. They are there, they got through everything, we know both of them will make it to the base, get on with it already! It's a pointless cliché, you'd lose nothing without it. They're just crop dusting. Los Angeles! 7 minutes ago, Holko said: Theatrical is a tighter, better film experience in my opinion. Collector's cut focuses more on the not very well done family drama. There's probably a great balance somewhere between the two with some additional deleted (and unreleased!) scenes like the stargazing, but overall I prefer the theatrical. Am I the only JWfaner who likes the Special Edition? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Illustrious Jerry 3,356 Posted November 3, 2018 Share Posted November 3, 2018 That kidnapping scene felt like classic Spielberg to me. The screws coming out of the vent! Oooooooooo that did it for me. Epic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted November 3, 2018 Share Posted November 3, 2018 Horror film stuff! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Illustrious Jerry 3,356 Posted November 3, 2018 Share Posted November 3, 2018 Oh, it's magnificent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,623 Posted November 3, 2018 Share Posted November 3, 2018 7 minutes ago, The Illustrious Jerry said: It was funny how in that conference room when this guy said he'd seen Bigfoot all the cameras turned on him. Oh, dear, Jerry. If you're going to post a still from CE3K, please get the ratio correct Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted November 3, 2018 Share Posted November 3, 2018 The 1.85:1 crop is better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Illustrious Jerry 3,356 Posted November 3, 2018 Share Posted November 3, 2018 Just now, Richard said: Oh, dear, Jerry. If you're going to post a still from CE3K, please get the ratio correct I'm sorry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,623 Posted November 3, 2018 Share Posted November 3, 2018 1 minute ago, Norma's Corpse said: The 1.85:1 crop is better. Fuck you! 1 minute ago, The Illustrious Jerry said: I'm sorry. Ooh! Thanks. That shot is excellent, in so many ways, and indicates why Zsigmond won the Oscar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted November 3, 2018 Share Posted November 3, 2018 Barry! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted November 3, 2018 Share Posted November 3, 2018 1 hour ago, Chen G. said: For 90% of this film's runtime absolutely NOTHING happens. That's the greatness of it. 🤔Lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kasey Kockroach 2,345 Posted November 3, 2018 Share Posted November 3, 2018 I have yet to even see so much as a clip of Close Encounters. The only major Spielberg picture I haven’t seen, oddly enough. Should I remedy that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Parker 3,040 Posted November 3, 2018 Share Posted November 3, 2018 That movie resides in a very private, strange part of my psyche. Sometimes the movie feels aloof or distant, but then at the end when you're crying in a state of awe you realize why everything built up the way it did. An immensely powerful story of a man caught up in the dreariness of the disillusioned "American Dream", suddenly stricken with a hard-to-articulate sense of higher purpose. Speaks to anyone's who ever had a life dream without truly being able to explain "Why". Also has my favorite Spielberg family scenes; growing up in a household with several siblings, he _nailed_ the interactions between them, the parents, everything. Screw it, has my favorite family scenes in any movie. I think I might consider it to be my favorite film. SteveMc 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kasey Kockroach 2,345 Posted November 3, 2018 Share Posted November 3, 2018 I’ll take that as a “maybe”. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Parker 3,040 Posted November 3, 2018 Share Posted November 3, 2018 1 minute ago, kaseykockroach said: I’ll take that as a “maybe”. Your choice, of course: frankly I don't even know if you'd like it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,357 Posted November 3, 2018 Share Posted November 3, 2018 4 minutes ago, Nick Parker said: Also has my favorite Spielberg family scenes; growing up in a household with several siblings, he _nailed_ the interactions between them, the parents, everything. Screw it, has my favorite family scenes in any movie. The domestic scenes in CE3K and E.T. are great because they feel so natural. It's something Spielberg has lost in his later period. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted November 3, 2018 Share Posted November 3, 2018 Very much so Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,357 Posted November 3, 2018 Share Posted November 3, 2018 In those days, Spielberg's special gift to work with children was often praised by the film community. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveMc 2,674 Posted November 3, 2018 Share Posted November 3, 2018 Those domestic scenes seem to be Spielberg living out a past that was weighing on him. As he got older and enjoyed a more stable family life, I suppose the artistic drive and need occasioned by his childhood began to fade away. Brundlefly 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Parker 3,040 Posted November 3, 2018 Share Posted November 3, 2018 5 minutes ago, Alexcremers said: The domestic scenes in CE3K and E.T. are great because they feel so natural. It's something Spielberg has lost in his later period. From what I understand, back in the day that was considered one of his greatest selling points. Then he met David Koepp, and kids turned to Movie Characters to spout "clever", "snappy" dialogue. In Jurassic Park it's _somewhat_ permissible, but damn, War of the Worlds? Get the hell outta here. Munich had some really good husband and wife scenes, at least, not that that's the same thing. EDIT: Beat me to it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,357 Posted November 3, 2018 Share Posted November 3, 2018 1 minute ago, Nick Parker said: From what I understand, back in the day that was considered one of his greatest selling points. Then he met David Koepp, and kids turned to Movie Characters to spout "clever", "snappy" dialogue. In Jurassic Park it's _somewhat_ permissible, but damn, War of the Worlds? Munich had some really good husband and wife scenes, at least, not that that's the same thing. EDIT: Beat me to it! I've always admired Spielberg for the way he handled family scenes, so imagine my bafflement when I went to see Jurassic Park and War Of The World. A week ago, I watched a recent extensive documentary on Spielberg where they showed 'behind the scenes' moments of E.T. and he this interaction with those children as a director was truly incredible. Nick Parker 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted November 3, 2018 Share Posted November 3, 2018 Air America To think they made a boring movie with Mel Gibson and Robert Downey Jr. I had no idea what this was about. Zzzzzzzzzz.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveMc 2,674 Posted November 3, 2018 Share Posted November 3, 2018 The Third Man The very definition of a classic. You don't watch it, you experience it. Elegant, perfectly paced, flowing. Fantastic performances, legendary camerawork, tight direction, the works. Old Vienna vs. new, Old World v. New (geographically and chronologically). I could go on and on. The kind of filmmaking prowess I aspire to. As for the music, I'm warming up to it a bit. Adds notably to the sense of disorientation that. If nothing else, I greatly admire Reed's balls for choosing to go with it. Naïve Old Fart and John 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Parker 3,040 Posted November 3, 2018 Share Posted November 3, 2018 3 minutes ago, Steve McQueen said: greatly admire Reed's balls for choosing to go with it. The most crass thing I've seen you say! Didn't know the JWFan Nice Guy had it in him! SteveMc and The Illustrious Jerry 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveMc 2,674 Posted November 3, 2018 Share Posted November 3, 2018 1 minute ago, Nick Parker said: The most crass thing I've seen you say! Didn't know the JWFan Nice Guy had it in him! The movie stirs my blood! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bollemanneke 3,362 Posted November 3, 2018 Share Posted November 3, 2018 My best friend's wedding. The first half was over much more quickly than I had expected it to be, but as with all romantic comedies, I felt myself losing interest at times. Julia Roberts was mostly great, of course, but I didn't expect it to end the way it did, especially because Kimmy just isn't a nice woman. Bad Michael. I wasn't really a fan of the sad music that James Newton Howard wrote, but the upbeat, flighty stuff, some of which I was very lucky to hear in concert, is absolutely gorgeous. I haven't heard such wonderful music in a very long time. The songs are also quite decent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John 2,032 Posted November 3, 2018 Share Posted November 3, 2018 The Sixth Sense (1999) I really liked it. First time watch and having not been exposed to any spoilers prior (yes, I live under a rock). I feel like I should've seen that twist coming, despite all the clever little clues and setups throughout the film, and when I found out what it was my jaw dropped. Definitely a movie I'll be thinking about for a while. **** and 1/2 out of ***** Chen G. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chen G. 3,984 Posted November 3, 2018 Share Posted November 3, 2018 Fantastic film, that! John 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted November 4, 2018 Share Posted November 4, 2018 1 hour ago, John said: The Sixth Sense (1999) I really liked it. First time watch and having not been exposed to any spoilers prior (yes, I live under a rock). I feel like I should've seen that twist coming, despite all the clever little clues and setups throughout the film, and when I found out what it was my jaw dropped. Definitely a movie I'll be thinking about for a while. **** and 1/2 out of ***** All these years later it's a movie which is almost quaintly dismissed and passively ignored, none less so it even being the movie which launched Shyamalan's career; but it's easy to forget how big of a hit the movie was, and just how profoundly impactful audiences found its raison d'être plot twist to be. Despite all that though, I never really thought it was all that great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeinAR 1,949 Posted November 4, 2018 Share Posted November 4, 2018 13 hours ago, Stefancos said: You don't seem to understand Silence Of The Lambs very well. He has an understanding to his limited viewings. He is most definitely wrong about Lambs. It shows much restraint. If he does not see the subtleties of the film he should watch it again. Silence of the Lambs is one of the most perfectly edited films I have ever seen. Its as close to perfection as films get. On top of that it is a great horror film. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted November 4, 2018 Share Posted November 4, 2018 He should watch it again, but would he see the error of his ways? Some people are beyond salvation, brother. JoeinAR 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,357 Posted November 4, 2018 Share Posted November 4, 2018 He probably saw it many times already. I mean, who hasn't? It's a classic, even though the movie made less impact on me during subsequent viewing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted November 4, 2018 Share Posted November 4, 2018 Its a movie one should watch every 5 to 7 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,643 Posted November 4, 2018 Share Posted November 4, 2018 And immensely quotable; 'It puts the lotion on its skin, or else it gets the hose again.' JoeinAR 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted November 4, 2018 Share Posted November 4, 2018 Last time i saw it i noticed how much "unsolicited" male attention Clarice recieves in the film. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,357 Posted November 4, 2018 Share Posted November 4, 2018 If it was released today, people would protest outside the theatre. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted November 4, 2018 Share Posted November 4, 2018 But people did protest the movie at the time. https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/before-oscarssowhite-the-forgotten-story-of-201810336.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,357 Posted November 4, 2018 Share Posted November 4, 2018 That's a very long article, Drax. BTW, if subtlety is overrated (like Chen claims) then Hannibal is the superior movie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted November 4, 2018 Share Posted November 4, 2018 31 minutes ago, Alexcremers said: If it was released today, people would protest outside the theatre. The transgender community did protest. I disagree with their reasons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted November 4, 2018 Share Posted November 4, 2018 Back then they were called transexuals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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