publicist 4,643 Posted January 23, 2016 Share Posted January 23, 2016 Also, it deepens the more physical-action dominated parts surrounding it. It's all about balance. Whatever Kubrick said, he probably didn't object to the Indianapolis speech. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted January 23, 2016 Share Posted January 23, 2016 That scene, and the one where Quint surveys his ruined ship and gives Hooper and Brody life jackets give the characters some depth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,345 Posted January 23, 2016 Share Posted January 23, 2016 8 minutes ago, Stefancos said: The scene works because it shows that Quint is more then we have seen of him up to that point. (A swearing, can crushing, beer-swilling bully of a man) Robert Shaw really sells it. Yes, I agree, but to me it's scenes like these that wear off more quickly upon revisiting. They might work the first time but they get a bit boring after a while. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,017 Posted January 23, 2016 Share Posted January 23, 2016 Regardless of whether this scene is just talky exposition or not, you sort of needed it at this point. Because there is no use of having all three characters entering the film's climax without not having any bond at all. Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted January 23, 2016 Share Posted January 23, 2016 Probably because you are too used to watching modern films. You should try to watch more classic cinema Alex. Broaden your perspective. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted January 23, 2016 Share Posted January 23, 2016 Alex doesn't like anything us plebs like! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted January 23, 2016 Share Posted January 23, 2016 Just now, crocodile said: Regardless of whether this scene is just talky exposition or not, you sort of needed it at this point. Because there is no use of having all three characters entering the film's climax without not having any bond at all. Karol It realy isn't talking exposition. It's a character a story that isn't directly related to what the film is about. It's not bluntly giving the viewer info by just having a character talk on screen. Surely you see the difference? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,017 Posted January 23, 2016 Share Posted January 23, 2016 2 minutes ago, Stefancos said: It realy isn't talking exposition. It's a character a story that isn't directly related to what the film is about. It's not bluntly giving the viewer info by just having a character talk on screen. Surely you see the difference? All I'm saying is that in ideal world it would have been perfect to deliver all that character information without him having to tell a story. Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted January 23, 2016 Share Posted January 23, 2016 *shakes head* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,017 Posted January 23, 2016 Share Posted January 23, 2016 Film is a visual medium Stefan. The less talking, the better! But I do like the scene, already said that. Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted January 23, 2016 Share Posted January 23, 2016 The actual character information isn't really the point of the Indianapolis story. It's more about the moods it's sets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,345 Posted January 23, 2016 Share Posted January 23, 2016 9 minutes ago, crocodile said: Regardless of whether this scene is just talky exposition or not, you sort of needed it at this point. Because there is no use of having all three characters entering the film's climax without not having any bond at all. Karol I understand. I once liked it too, but because it's a character telling a story it's more susceptible to the law of diminishing returns. It's simply a dull scene, cinematically speaking, that is. We should learn about characters by observing their actions, not their stories. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,017 Posted January 23, 2016 Share Posted January 23, 2016 2 minutes ago, Stefancos said: The actual character information isn't really the point of the Indianapolis story. It's more about the moods it's sets. Yeah, I do realise that. Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted January 23, 2016 Share Posted January 23, 2016 It does. We get to observe these characters on a long night in a tiny box surrounding by water. What do men do on such a night? Get drunk and swap stories. It's a atmospheric scene which is about more then the WWII story. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,017 Posted January 23, 2016 Share Posted January 23, 2016 Another thing I noticed (or noticed again) is how little music there is in the film. It never overuses this potential "gimmick". There's no real underscore in there. You know, music just used as a lazy dramatic crutch. Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,643 Posted January 23, 2016 Share Posted January 23, 2016 It was the 70's, y'know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted January 23, 2016 Share Posted January 23, 2016 Bona-fide legendary scene of cinema gets moaned about on JWFan. Only on JWFan! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted January 23, 2016 Share Posted January 23, 2016 I actually feel like sticking my hand through my phone and grabbing Karol by the neck! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,017 Posted January 23, 2016 Share Posted January 23, 2016 It's good that I'm into this sort of stuff. Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted January 23, 2016 Share Posted January 23, 2016 There's hipsters everywhere nowadays Steef, it's just the way it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted January 23, 2016 Share Posted January 23, 2016 Yeah but....Alex...a hipster? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted January 23, 2016 Share Posted January 23, 2016 My understanding of a hipster is anyone who makes it their life mission to be different to everyone else and to constantly enforce the idea to others that one is truly unique, and thus enlightened (and refined). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,017 Posted January 23, 2016 Share Posted January 23, 2016 So are you a hipster for not like Max Max then? Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted January 23, 2016 Share Posted January 23, 2016 2 minutes ago, Quintus said: My understanding of a hipster is anyone who makes it their life mission to be different to everyone else and to constantly enforce the idea to others that one is truly unique, and thus enlightened. Hipsters are so different from anyone else that you recognize them straight away because they all look the same. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted January 23, 2016 Share Posted January 23, 2016 No mate I'm totally mainstream. I just didn't like Mad Max all that much. Wish I did, but hey ho. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted January 23, 2016 Share Posted January 23, 2016 2 minutes ago, crocodile said: So are you a hipster for not like Max Max then? Karol Yes! Lee, Alex and Joey are JWfan's hipsters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted January 23, 2016 Share Posted January 23, 2016 What could happen though is I could watch something like Mad Max again and have my view change on it. I'm not the unmoving sort, I just like what I like. Isn't that how it is for most of us? Essentially, I'm casual about entertainment and art. Hipsters would never admit to that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted January 23, 2016 Share Posted January 23, 2016 True! Also so you wouldn't dream of getting a ridiculous beard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,017 Posted January 23, 2016 Share Posted January 23, 2016 Isn't "hipsterism" a bit of a myth anyway? Do those people even exist? Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted January 23, 2016 Share Posted January 23, 2016 I only drink PG Tips tea. crocodile 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,017 Posted January 23, 2016 Share Posted January 23, 2016 Just now, Quintus said: I only drink PG Tips tea. PG Tips is actually disgusting. No wonder you English need milk to dilute it! Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted January 23, 2016 Share Posted January 23, 2016 Well you are the spit of Johnny Vegas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted January 23, 2016 Share Posted January 23, 2016 13 minutes ago, Stefancos said: Hipsters are so different from anyone else that you recognize them straight away because they all look the same. Plonkers generally standout to everyone else. 4 minutes ago, crocodile said: PG Tips is actually disgusting. No wonder you English need milk to dilute it! Karol That, and every now and then Yorkshire Tea or Tetley's. I don't like the trendy teas, Englishmen generally don't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,017 Posted January 23, 2016 Share Posted January 23, 2016 6 minutes ago, Quintus said: Plonkers generally standout to everyone else. That, and every now and then Yorkshire Tea or Tetley's. I don't like the trendy teas, Englishmen generally don't. I know! And it is the strangest thing about England, given how spoilt for choice you are. We, continental folk, like our tea more trendy. It's not like I specificially pick some weird flavours. I generally have some tea with honey and lemon. Massive mug, like I'm having at this very moment. I think it's just Sainsbury's regular Earl Grey. Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted January 23, 2016 Share Posted January 23, 2016 Lemon tea I can just about put up, if there's nothing else going. But I miss the drop of milk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,017 Posted January 23, 2016 Share Posted January 23, 2016 Never tried lemon and milk at the same time... Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted January 23, 2016 Share Posted January 23, 2016 13 minutes ago, Quintus said: Englishmen generally don't. Earl Grey or breakfast tea usually. If i go eclectic i might risk a mint tea. My sister likes trendy teas. She even served me a glass of boiling water with a chunk of ginger in it saying it was tea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted January 23, 2016 Share Posted January 23, 2016 Europeans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted January 23, 2016 Share Posted January 23, 2016 No wonder England wants to leave! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brónach 1,302 Posted January 23, 2016 Share Posted January 23, 2016 Not into tea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bespin 8,484 Posted January 23, 2016 Share Posted January 23, 2016 This week I watched The Sleepers, that I didn't saw for years. Always as good, and the music of John Williams is perfect! The Academy Award nomination he got for this score was totally justified. The program for today, is to try to give a second chance to Nixon. (60's) USA politics is sooooo far from my reality, even if I'm in Canada. The first time I tried to saw the movie, I was really bored at the very first minutes and wonder "Why do I want to see this movie again?". This time, I will try to focus on the music ;-) Wish me good luck! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted January 23, 2016 Share Posted January 23, 2016 The title of the movie is Sleepers though.... Bespin 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted January 23, 2016 Share Posted January 23, 2016 I haven't seen Nixon, but isn't it less about the politics and more a sensational distillation of the man himself? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,643 Posted January 23, 2016 Share Posted January 23, 2016 Also, NIXON is fairly basic, politic-wise. There isn't any insider knowledge required (i suppose the Watergate scandal might so some which would be strange enough). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Breathmask 555 Posted January 23, 2016 Author Share Posted January 23, 2016 Ant-Man It deviates slightly from its Marvel predecessors, but that's about all there is to say about this film. I've already forgotten most of it. Dull, unengaging and poorly told. Gravity Fucking amazing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted January 23, 2016 Share Posted January 23, 2016 2 minutes ago, Mr. Breathmask said: Ant-Man It deviates slightly from its Marvel predecessors, but that's about all there is to say about this film. I've already forgotten most of it. Dull, unengaging and poorly told. I was looking forward to it when Edgar Wright was gonna direct. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,017 Posted January 23, 2016 Share Posted January 23, 2016 17 minutes ago, publicist said: Also, NIXON is fairly basic, politic-wise. There isn't any insider knowledge required (i suppose the Watergate scandal might so some which would be strange enough). It's a weird film. But I can't decide whether that's good or bad. It's very Citizen Kane in its ambitions. And yet it also makes it laughable. Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,345 Posted January 23, 2016 Share Posted January 23, 2016 It doesn't groove, that Nixon film. Everything feels wooden and rigid. Snow White And The Huntsman: The first hour was kinda watchable yet very fragmentary. I guess the best thing about it is the look. I really start to dislike Charlize Theron though. 'Exaggerated' and overacting are not a strong enough words to describe her performance as the queen. I can't say much about the second hour because that's when I got tired of it. And so I decided to watch another episode of Narcos instead. Alex Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,251 Posted January 23, 2016 Share Posted January 23, 2016 The Thing The Hateful Eight got me in the mood for this, and I couldn't think of a better film to watch during a blizzard. Perfection. crocodile 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wojo 2,453 Posted January 23, 2016 Share Posted January 23, 2016 To Be or Not to Be I'd never heard of this movie before seeing it with my Mel Brooks collection. I didn't even realize that he was married to Anne Bancroft. But this was a well structured funny movie with a lot of familiar faces. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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