Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted August 2, 2016 Share Posted August 2, 2016 Actually, everyone gushes over Big Fish and I find it overrated. A24 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romão 2,274 Posted August 2, 2016 Share Posted August 2, 2016 1 hour ago, Disco Stu said: Sleepy Hollow I love this movie! What a cool mashup of Gothic horror/romance, detective story, and American folklore. One of the last great Burton movies; certainly one of the last where Burtonesque visuals created effective atmosphere instead of eyerolls. It's a movie where I find myself saying out loud, "Geez what a gorgeous set!" It's also one of my 4 or 5 favorite Elfman scores. It's easily Burton's best looking film. Great score too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted August 2, 2016 Share Posted August 2, 2016 I could never figure out what the hell Rico from Starship Troopers was doing in that movie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,552 Posted August 2, 2016 Share Posted August 2, 2016 WWTLFYO (of)? "You were only meant to scare the Ice Princes". "She looked pretty scared, to me". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,345 Posted August 2, 2016 Share Posted August 2, 2016 4 hours ago, Nick Tatopoulos's Beret said: Actually, everyone gushes over Big Fish and I find it overrated. Finally! The movie draws so many warm and fuzzy cards that it gets tedious after a while. 6 hours ago, Disco Stu said: Sleepy Hollow I love this movie! What a cool mashup of Gothic horror/romance, detective story, and American folklore. One of the last great Burton movies; certainly one of the last where Burtonesque visuals created effective atmosphere instead of eyerolls. It's a movie where I find myself saying out loud, "Geez what a gorgeous set!" It's also one of my 4 or 5 favorite Elfman scores. I couldn't stand it at the time and even stopped watching. It felt so idiotic to me but maybe I looked at it from a wrong perspective. Is the movie considered to be a masterpiece? Let's see ... Hmm, very mixed reviews ... It seems this is another love it or hate it movie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,643 Posted August 2, 2016 Share Posted August 2, 2016 2 hours ago, Alexcremers said: I couldn't stand it at the time and even stopped watching. It felt so idiotic to me but maybe I looked at it from a wrong perspective. Is the movie considered to be a masterpiece? Let's see ... Hmm, very mixed reviews ... It seems this is another love it or hate it movie. It is really about nothing and not particularly good but once you're over that you can just enjoy Jeffrey Jones, Michael Gambon and Richrd Griffiths in pompous wigs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted August 2, 2016 Share Posted August 2, 2016 I wasn't impressed, but then again it's Tim Burton. He only turns in a good movie after he's made 4 bad ones. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted August 2, 2016 Share Posted August 2, 2016 It's not some lost masterpiece. Just silly fun and a visual feast. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted August 2, 2016 Share Posted August 2, 2016 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrbellamy 6,291 Posted August 2, 2016 Share Posted August 2, 2016 Yes, but why? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted August 2, 2016 Share Posted August 2, 2016 Why not? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted August 2, 2016 Share Posted August 2, 2016 Because he was cast in Starship Troopers for a reason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wojo 2,453 Posted August 2, 2016 Share Posted August 2, 2016 Wonder what ol CVD is up to now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted August 2, 2016 Share Posted August 2, 2016 There's a retirement home where prettyboy coulda-been-a-contender actors that didn't quite catch on live out their final decades. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wojo 2,453 Posted August 2, 2016 Share Posted August 2, 2016 He probably plays weekly tennis with Antonio Sabato Jr. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,643 Posted August 2, 2016 Share Posted August 2, 2016 Nice Spielberg doc from 1983, you even see his living room (way before the stalkers;). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted August 2, 2016 Share Posted August 2, 2016 Video not available. Barry Norman did a really good in depth home visit at Spielberg's place many years ago. I remembered being utterly fascinated at the time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted August 2, 2016 Share Posted August 2, 2016 Claudia Winkleman should do a follow-up! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,643 Posted August 2, 2016 Share Posted August 2, 2016 3 minutes ago, Lonnegan said: Video not available. ProxFlow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marian Schedenig 8,208 Posted August 2, 2016 Share Posted August 2, 2016 Gesundheit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted August 2, 2016 Share Posted August 2, 2016 +1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted August 2, 2016 Share Posted August 2, 2016 9 hours ago, Disco Stu said: There's a retirement home where prettyboy coulda-been-a-contender actors that didn't quite catch on live out their final decades. Don't talk about Casper that way! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,018 Posted August 3, 2016 Share Posted August 3, 2016 Star Trek: First Contact and Star Trek: Insurrection. I rather enjoyed both, despite some flaws. The second Goldsmith score is actually stronger than the first one in context. Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted August 3, 2016 Share Posted August 3, 2016 Insurrection is underrated for sure. The complaint I see most often is that it's more like a TNG two-part episode, not cinematic enough. To me, that's not an issue in the present when I'm watching it all, TV show and movie alike, on the same small screen. It's got some great performances by the main cast. The biggest flaw to me is the ho-hum action sequences. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted August 3, 2016 Share Posted August 3, 2016 First Contact had a few nice setpieces, this doesnt really. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,018 Posted August 3, 2016 Share Posted August 3, 2016 Yeah, I agree. I expected something much flawed. Its reputation seems to be quite undeserved. Some special effects look so-so, certainly worse than First Contact, but it's a non-issue when the story is engaging. Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted August 3, 2016 Share Posted August 3, 2016 2 minutes ago, Stefancos said: First Contact had a few nice setpieces, this doesnt really. I know. That's why I called the action "ho-hum." Divorced from expectations put upon it for being a theatrical film, and just watched alongside TNG, it's a darn good two hours spent with the Enterprise D/E crew! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted August 3, 2016 Share Posted August 3, 2016 I dunno, last time I watched it it didnt really click with me. I prefer Nemesis. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,018 Posted August 3, 2016 Share Posted August 3, 2016 5 minutes ago, Stefancos said: First Contact had a few nice setpieces, this doesnt really. Does Star Trek need setpieces to be good? Has Wrath of Khan really destroyed the franchise for good? Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted August 3, 2016 Share Posted August 3, 2016 Wow. You're the first Trekkie I've ever encountered with positive feelings towards Nemesis. I always appreciate an opinion that differs from conventional wisdom. Any particular things you like about it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted August 3, 2016 Share Posted August 3, 2016 6 minutes ago, crocodile said: Does Star Trek need setpieces to be good? Has Wrath of Khan really destroyed the franchise for good? Karol Don't put words in my mouth please, and don't even begin to pretend you understand Star trek better then I do. 7 minutes ago, Disco Stu said: Wow. You're the first Trekkie I've ever encountered with positive feelings towards Nemesis. I always appreciate an opinion that differs from conventional wisdom. Any particular things you like about it? Ive talked to several who liked it. It's flawed of course, and just another TWOK remake. But it looks very good, the acting is strong (especially from Stewart) and it's the final adventure of that beloved crew. I've got a lot of time for Nemesis. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted August 3, 2016 Share Posted August 3, 2016 I always liked the stuff it added to the Star Trek canon about the Romulans and the Remans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,018 Posted August 3, 2016 Share Posted August 3, 2016 13 minutes ago, Stefancos said: Don't put words in my mouth please, and don't even begin to pretend you understand Star trek better then I do. ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted August 3, 2016 Share Posted August 3, 2016 5 minutes ago, Disco Stu said: I always liked the stuff it added to the Star Trek canon about the Romulans and the Remans. I think it's the first time since Balance Of Terror that Remus was even mentioned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted August 3, 2016 Share Posted August 3, 2016 I've never thought Nemesis was as bad as some Trek fans make it out to be, but I also don't like it passionately enough to get into debates about it. It's fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted August 3, 2016 Share Posted August 3, 2016 3 minutes ago, crocodile said: ... If you are going to do a big budget sci-fi film with a lot of action, why not have those action scenes be better then they were in the finished film. Star Trek or not? Action isnt the most important thing about Star Trek, but it certainly always has been an aspect of it. 1 minute ago, Disco Stu said: I've never thought Nemesis was as bad as some Trek fans make it out to be, but I also don't like it passionately enough to get into debates about it. It's fine. I enjoyed it very much when i saw it in the cinema in 2002, but it also made me a bit sad because I knew it wouldnt be a hit. That it would be the last one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marian Schedenig 8,208 Posted August 3, 2016 Share Posted August 3, 2016 I've always liked Nemesis and Stewart is indeed particularly good there, one of my favourites of his performances. But unlike most I still don't like the score very much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted August 3, 2016 Share Posted August 3, 2016 It's complexities can be a bit hard to stomach for those who preferred simpler fare like The Two Towers or The Matrix Reloaded. Both fine scores, but far more obvious and crowd pleasing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon Hill 4,234 Posted August 3, 2016 Share Posted August 3, 2016 It's great, but not better than TTT that year. I'd say they're about equal. The scores, I mean. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted August 3, 2016 Share Posted August 3, 2016 Ok i will go along with that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon Hill 4,234 Posted August 3, 2016 Share Posted August 3, 2016 You would betray Hobgood? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted August 3, 2016 Share Posted August 3, 2016 Lets not tell him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,018 Posted August 3, 2016 Share Posted August 3, 2016 The Matrix Reloaded is the easiest to enjoy score in the trilogy, true. But I still wouldn't label it as "crowd pleasing", outside of two electronica crossover tracks.. But yeah. Nemesis was overlooked, also by myself. Plus there were also Elfman's Spider-Man, Williams' Attack of the Clones and Chamber of Secrets. And other stuff like this. Crowded period in which it was easy to dismiss an introverted Trek score. But that was also the original album's fault. Badly put together disc. Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,251 Posted August 3, 2016 Share Posted August 3, 2016 Let's not forget Road To Perdition! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon Hill 4,234 Posted August 3, 2016 Share Posted August 3, 2016 Love that one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharkissimo 1,973 Posted August 3, 2016 Share Posted August 3, 2016 Hearbreaking score. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeinAR 1,949 Posted August 4, 2016 Share Posted August 4, 2016 Ben Hur, all 3 plus hours and I love it all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted August 4, 2016 Share Posted August 4, 2016 Okay, we'll get back to Star Trek. I've got Sleepy Hollow going on Netflix. It looks slick. Good cast except Rico, who just so happens to have only two brief lines, as if Burton realized he was terrible. However... This movie becomes dreadfully boring. We want headless horsemen and British actors killing each other, not sitting around in rooms and Christina Ricci no longer being a good actress. Rico? Anyone? There's little payoff aside from Miranda Richardson being ludicrous. But none of this fucking shit makes sense in the last act. I mean, most Burton films are like that, but here, it's just insulting. Why did she cut her hand? Why did she fake her death? How could the little girl who broke the stick have been her when it was only 20 years earlier? Why did they go to some windmill? What? This is stupid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon Hill 4,234 Posted August 4, 2016 Share Posted August 4, 2016 2 hours ago, JoeinAR said: Ben Hur, all 3 plus hours and I love it all. Wrong season! Wait for April! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,643 Posted August 4, 2016 Share Posted August 4, 2016 I always found it a hard slog to be honest. It's great filmmaking but some of those scenes drag. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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