Faleel 5,358 Posted October 31, 2013 Share Posted October 31, 2013 Tomorrow is next week! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gkgyver 1,645 Posted October 31, 2013 Author Share Posted October 31, 2013 Less than two months? If December 10th is correct, we'll have it in a month, or less than a month. The day after tomorrow will come soon enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alicebrallice 134 Posted October 31, 2013 Share Posted October 31, 2013 December has never been so close! In less than two months, we'll all have a physical copy of this!aren't you supposed to be avoiding it like the plague until you've seen the film? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faleel 5,358 Posted October 31, 2013 Share Posted October 31, 2013 TABA will be the only Shore (or Pope....) ME score I will be avoiding until the film. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted October 31, 2013 Share Posted October 31, 2013 December has never been so close! In less than two months, we'll all have a physical copy of this!aren't you supposed to be avoiding it like the plague until you've seen the film? No way! I'll listen to it before seeing the film! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,017 Posted October 31, 2013 Share Posted October 31, 2013 December has never been so close!Except for the day before.Perceiving time linearly is so 20th century.Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faleel 5,358 Posted October 31, 2013 Share Posted October 31, 2013 Separate timelines is where its at! crocodile 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smeltington 1,440 Posted October 31, 2013 Share Posted October 31, 2013 I'll listen to the score after seeing the film. I'd rather judge it in the film first, and react to it there, before getting used to the material on the album.It worked well with AUJ - the movie lowered my expectations for the score, then when I heard the album I was pleasantly surprised. If I had gone into the movie being familiar with the album already, I would have been enraged! SafeUnderHill 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon Hill 4,234 Posted October 31, 2013 Share Posted October 31, 2013 Indeed! Get with the quantum-mechanics program! crocodile 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SafeUnderHill 205 Posted October 31, 2013 Share Posted October 31, 2013 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faleel 5,358 Posted October 31, 2013 Share Posted October 31, 2013 Wait, what?Which one? #3? it would make sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Once 605 Posted October 31, 2013 Share Posted October 31, 2013 Wait, what?Which one? #3? it would make sense.No, the first one. I thought it was a known fact.SafeUnderHill, why don't you link to your source when you post quotes? This one sounds a bit out of context and I would love to read more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gkgyver 1,645 Posted October 31, 2013 Author Share Posted October 31, 2013 Here's a nice quote from Conrad Pope.Well, Emmanuel, that there is any music in this picture as thrilling as ROTK is for you, the composer and others to judge. My only hope is that justice has been done to the composer's vision and that the music we've made in Wellington doesn't disappoint him or the audience. Mine is a job ( as I often say) that one can only do "wrong"-- much like turning pages at a recital. Do it right and everybody says "But , of course---easy enough". Do it wrong, and you're an idiot. Hopefully, we all turned the pages properly. We'll see.Also, he worked on Pirates of the Caribbean!Now, with what he says here, can we see it as confirmed that Shore was not directly involved in the recording process in NZ? "Not involved" as in "not there in person".After all, he says he hopes that the work THEY did in NZ will please the composer.It all appears very fishy still ...I wonder what crazy process TABA will be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KK 3,307 Posted October 31, 2013 Share Posted October 31, 2013 Wait, what?Which one? #3? it would make sense.No, the first one. I thought it was a known fact.SafeUnderHill, why don't you link to your source when you post quotes? This one sounds a bit out of context and I would love to read more. It was a reply on FB to someone who said something along the lines of "I hope this music is as awesome as RotK". It was a week or 2 ago I believe. Once 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Once 605 Posted November 1, 2013 Share Posted November 1, 2013 Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Skywalker 1,795 Posted November 1, 2013 Share Posted November 1, 2013 Here's a nice quote from Conrad Pope.Well, Emmanuel, that there is any music in this picture as thrilling as ROTK is for you, the composer and others to judge. My only hope is that justice has been done to the composer's vision and that the music we've made in Wellington doesn't disappoint him or the audience. Mine is a job ( as I often say) that one can only do "wrong"-- much like turning pages at a recital. Do it right and everybody says "But , of course---easy enough". Do it wrong, and you're an idiot. Hopefully, we all turned the pages properly. We'll see.Also, he worked on Pirates of the Caribbean!Now, with what he says here, can we see it as confirmed that Shore was not directly involved in the recording process in NZ? "Not involved" as in "not there in person".After all, he says he hopes that the work THEY did in NZ will please the composer.It all appears very fishy still ...I wonder what crazy process TABA will be.wow.I mean shore has not even listened to the music?At this rate TABA will be themes by howard shore, music arranged (or adapted) and conducted by Conrad pope... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted November 1, 2013 Share Posted November 1, 2013 Also, he worked on Pirates of the Caribbean!If you're trying to reassure people by saying this, it's not going to work! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SafeUnderHill 205 Posted November 1, 2013 Share Posted November 1, 2013 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,017 Posted November 1, 2013 Share Posted November 1, 2013 wow.I mean shore has not even listened to the music?Pope said that he hopes Shore is happy with... page-turning. That's all he said.Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SafeUnderHill 205 Posted November 1, 2013 Share Posted November 1, 2013 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted November 1, 2013 Share Posted November 1, 2013 Well, Emmanuel, that there is any music in this picture as thrilling as ROTK is for [...] the composer [...] to judge. My only hope is that justice has been done to the composer's vision and that the music we've made in Wellington doesn't disappoint him or the audience.It all suggests Shore hasn't listened to the music yet! Oh my god! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SafeUnderHill 205 Posted November 1, 2013 Share Posted November 1, 2013 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,017 Posted November 1, 2013 Share Posted November 1, 2013 Well, Emmanuel, that there is any music in this picture as thrilling as ROTK is for [...] the composer [...] to judge. My only hope is that justice has been done to the composer's vision and that the music we've made in Wellington doesn't disappoint him or the audience.It all suggests Shore hasn't listened to the music yet! Oh my god!No, it doesn't.Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted November 1, 2013 Share Posted November 1, 2013 Yes, yes it does! We're doomed! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,017 Posted November 1, 2013 Share Posted November 1, 2013 We were sentenced to die the moment we entered this world, so that's nothing new!Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Doug Adams 494 Posted November 1, 2013 Popular Post Share Posted November 1, 2013 Shore wrote every note you'll hear, same as ever. He writes themes away from picture, then writes the actual compositions to picture. It's the same process he's always used.At the same time, he supervised the orchestration and the recording. This is a newer part process, however, he's implemented it to a lesser degree on his last couple of projects (going all the way back to Hugo), so it's not entirely new. No one noted a signifcant difference in sound then, and no one will notice one now.Does the NZSO sound like a different ensemble to discerning ears? Sure, a bit -- but no more so than the sound of the LPO changed over the years as membership changed. The ensemble that played FOTR wasn't exactly the same as the ensemble that played TTT, etc. If you picked up on this, you'll notice a slightly different sound to the group. If you didn't notice this, you won't notice anything here. The engineers, etc. are all Middle-earth vets, so they've made sure the sound flows seamlessly. Does the conducting change the sound? Well, not really, to be honest. Shore's principal job as a session conductor is to make sure that the ensemble understands the overall concept. So Shore worked with Pope through much of the summer -- and continuing through the fall -- to make sure he understood the concept. A session conductor is obviously not playing with tempo or even with interpretation, because that messes with the sync and the mix. It's a different gig. Even most of the balance comes from the ears in the booth. And though it's getting silly, I will reiterate, Shore is entirely healthy. Saw him last month, and he looked better rested than I do on the Hobbit appendices ... speaking of ...No, Shore did not sit down for a new face-to-face interview for the appendices. Part of that was due to schedule (most of the appendices material was shot during the spring and summer when Shore was working on DOS; part of that due to the fact that sometimes people just don't enjoy having a camera shoved in their face. Shore is a pretty private guy. Despite the fact that he knows everyone in the industry, his inner circle is relatively small. There's a reason he lives in a forest. He likes quiet. Many composers do, which is hardly surprising.The musical emphasis in this years appendices was songs, anyway. That was always going to be the focus, Shore or no Shore. I was asked to speak a little about the songs and to speak a little more about Shore's work, which I was happy to do. I've watched the doc once with my wife, and I showed the first few minutes to my parents, and that'll probably be the last time I look at it. I hate seeing myself on camera. But, it's good! The emphasis is definitely on the songs, but I believe the tentative plan is to do more in-depth score discussion next year.I know that these threads last longer and are more entertaining when we all resort to exaggeration, in-character posts, and negativity that requires responses, but please try to remember that this is how ugly rumors get started. And rumors are strong currency in the fan community. Making a joke of a person's health is never cool; there's no way to sugar-coat that.I don't stop by here that often -- though I stop by often enough to see who's making fun of me ... gotta keep the "naughty list" up-to-date! But, if you have questions -- the type that I can actually answer -- feel free to flag me on Twitter (@DougAdamsMusic) or on the blog (www.MusicofLOTR.com)I don't want to dissuade conversation here, but maybe all these "curious," "suspicious," "doom," posts could give way to actual material discussion if you'd just ask! I'm not scary. Just look at me in the appendices doc ... I'm really just a scrawny musician-type with access to interesting people. Ok. Horse out. Alex Shore, Jay, Dixon Hill and 8 others 11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,370 Posted November 1, 2013 Share Posted November 1, 2013 Awesome post Doug, thanks for stopping in. I agree with everything you suggest. Everyone, to Doug you listen! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TownerFan 4,983 Posted November 1, 2013 Share Posted November 1, 2013 Thanks, Doug. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bilbo 3,709 Posted November 1, 2013 Share Posted November 1, 2013 Thank you Doug! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gkgyver 1,645 Posted November 1, 2013 Author Share Posted November 1, 2013 This should certainly clear things up. Going back to "material discussion", I wonder if DoS will be more of a Nordic sound, like TTT was more sprinkled with Nordic influences compared to FotR. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,715 Posted November 1, 2013 Share Posted November 1, 2013 Thank you Doug once again! That made things much clearer and hopefully lessens the need for wild negative speculation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KK 3,307 Posted November 1, 2013 Share Posted November 1, 2013 Thanks Doug! Some "jokes" here get a bit carried away as you could tell. I was getting a bit ticked off myself by the whole "Shore never heard the music" thing. So thanks for the being the voice of reason, once again!I think this thread really needs some solid updates to tame wild conspiracy theories! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,715 Posted November 1, 2013 Share Posted November 1, 2013 Thanks Doug! Some "jokes" here get a bit carried away as you could tell. I was getting a bit ticked off myself by the whole "Shore never heard the music" thing. So thanks for the being the voice of reason, once again!I think this thread really needs some solid updates to tame wild conspiracy theories!Well we are all victims of the internet age's instant gratification syndrome to some degree. Perhaps we should just be content to wait for the news instead of clamoring them as if they were our birth right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KK 3,307 Posted November 1, 2013 Share Posted November 1, 2013 That too. I wasn't demanding them of course. Just pointing out that our impatience along with the lack of news are probably major reasons for the speculation on this thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,370 Posted November 1, 2013 Share Posted November 1, 2013 If the press release for the CDs doesn't come out today, I suppose it won't be until at least Monday that it does.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bilbo 3,709 Posted November 1, 2013 Share Posted November 1, 2013 If the press release for the CDs doesn't come out today, I suppose it won't be until at least Monday that it does....http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CHNJPsCDSqo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SafeUnderHill 205 Posted November 1, 2013 Share Posted November 1, 2013 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted November 1, 2013 Share Posted November 1, 2013 Who's Adam? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,715 Posted November 1, 2013 Share Posted November 1, 2013 That too. I wasn't demanding them of course. Just pointing out that our impatience along with the lack of news are probably major reasons for the speculation on this thread.Indeed. I was not aiming this at you but rather all of us. In the end the root of the matter is our positive passion for this music that just ends up getting somewhat zany forms, due to the lack of concrete news. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SafeUnderHill 205 Posted November 1, 2013 Share Posted November 1, 2013 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KK 3,307 Posted November 1, 2013 Share Posted November 1, 2013 It was always clear that Shore was involved in all the stages of the scoring process. The paranoia here just kind of fogged up the obvious Incanus 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gkgyver 1,645 Posted November 1, 2013 Author Share Posted November 1, 2013 I also didn't say he wasn't involved, I said "physically present" at the sessions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bilbo 3,709 Posted November 1, 2013 Share Posted November 1, 2013 From Amazon! Editorial Reviews The Soundtrack features original score by Academy Award winner Howard Shore. The Special Edition of the Original Motion Picture Soundtrack to The Hobbit: The Desolation Of Smaug contains music from the film with twelve extended score cues, bonus track, liner notes by Producer and Director Peter Jackson, extended liner notes by Doug Adams with interactive orchestral sketch signed by composer Howard Shore packaged in a 2 CD hardcover DigiBook.One of today's most respected, honored, and active composers and music conductors, Howard Shore previously worked with director Peter Jackson on The Lord Of The Rings Trilogy, which stands as his most towering achievement to date. He won three Academy Awards for his music for those films Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,370 Posted November 1, 2013 Share Posted November 1, 2013 Always quote your sources! http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00FFT1BJ0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted November 1, 2013 Share Posted November 1, 2013 Interactive orchestral sketch? Interesting... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bilbo 3,709 Posted November 1, 2013 Share Posted November 1, 2013 Always quote your sources!http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00FFT1BJ0Sorry, I got excited This is new info though?Interactive orchestral sketch? Interesting...Any idea what that even means? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted November 1, 2013 Share Posted November 1, 2013 Nope! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,715 Posted November 1, 2013 Share Posted November 1, 2013 Interactive orchestral sketch? Interesting...Indeed. It will be interesting to see what that entails.A good number of extended cues and a bonus piece on top of that. Very nice.I have asked this a while ago but will this also mean that the regular OST tracks might again be a bit different in places than the SE ones? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bilbo 3,709 Posted November 1, 2013 Share Posted November 1, 2013 Doug just tweeted about it. I got there faster than him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,370 Posted November 1, 2013 Share Posted November 1, 2013 Always quote your sources! http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00FFT1BJ0Sorry, I got excited This is new info though? Yes. Interactive orchestral sketch? Interesting...Any idea what that even means? No. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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