#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted November 18, 2015 Share Posted November 18, 2015 The live action series was dead in the water for years. And the game and cartoony stuff was only interesting for the die hard fans.TPM was done in 3D and no one have a shit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SafeUnderHill 205 Posted November 18, 2015 Share Posted November 18, 2015 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indianagirl 298 Posted November 19, 2015 Share Posted November 19, 2015 However you feel about the prequels and they are troublesome....the whole situation is still sad. It's a sore subject for him. You can see it in his face. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted November 19, 2015 Share Posted November 19, 2015 Well he shouldn't have any problem in allowing the original unaltered trilogy being restored and released! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrbellamy 6,293 Posted November 19, 2015 Share Posted November 19, 2015 This is great Harrison's got his personality back! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted November 19, 2015 Share Posted November 19, 2015 It's weird. He's been seemingly into the whole Star Wars thing lately and really out of character. I just remember him being a monotone grump for years, at least whenever I'd see him on TV or in an interview about Star Wars or Indiana Jones. I could be remembering wrong.Never saw this awkward interview before:Mark Hamill talks about his car crash about 4 minutes in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muad'Dib 1,802 Posted November 19, 2015 Share Posted November 19, 2015 Maybe the plane crash changed his perspective on things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted November 19, 2015 Share Posted November 19, 2015 Possibly. Horners death affected us all! mrbellamy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted November 19, 2015 Share Posted November 19, 2015 Ford has been Disneyfied. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted November 19, 2015 Share Posted November 19, 2015 He saw the Mouse, and was glad! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scarpia 132 Posted November 19, 2015 Share Posted November 19, 2015 Harrison seems happier now, at least working for this campaign. I hope this spark is present on his new Han Solo performance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
karelm 2,915 Posted November 19, 2015 Share Posted November 19, 2015 I don't think it comes down to a superior performance. I mean, the performances aren't bad, but no one in Star Wars (1977) gave a particularly strong performance. Dare I say even Guinness and Cushing were going through the motions a bit there. Everyone got better after that one, even James Earl Jones, who was a bit hammier in the first one.You really have to watch these with 1970's era glasses on. For example, I was a huge fan of the original twilight zone and Star Trek from the 60s. If I try to explain to someone who's not seen them why they're so great, they'll have a hard time being convinced unless you put your self in that time and place. In those you get terrible Shatnerisms, low budget effects with strings visible, hyper-melodrama, hilariously mismatched stunt doubles, cheesiness galore, babes in space bikinis, etc. When watching these now, they seem so silly but over a few episodes, the vocabulary of that universe becomes established. Star Wars 77 came out of nowhere in a pretty cynical time and yes there is nostalgia too. Music in all of these kicked ass though. For those of us who grew up with these when the mythology was new and unknown, it was very exciting and its hard to retroactively capture that. Seeing SW is probably mostly a Pavlovian reminder of what it was like when it first came out and was very fresh and thrilling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted November 20, 2015 Share Posted November 20, 2015 I don't have any issues with the performances or the characters in the original Star Wars. Although I do have a problem with this:"ARGGRHHHAGGRRRHHHAHRAAARR!"Translation:"It's true. All of it. The Force. The Jedi They're real." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted November 20, 2015 Share Posted November 20, 2015 Why should you have a problem with Han's change of heart?It's been decades, people change. Not Mr. Big 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Breathmask 555 Posted November 20, 2015 Share Posted November 20, 2015 I think he has a problem with Han being skeptical about the Force when his co-pilot actually met one of the greatest Jedi masters just twenty years earlier. Apparently, Chewie isn't keen on arguing with Han about the matter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wojo 2,453 Posted November 20, 2015 Share Posted November 20, 2015 Chewie strikes me as a man of very few words. Why would he try to argue Jedi philosophy with his co-pilot, the man who saved him from slavery? He probably just kept that bit to himself. Criticizing Chewbacca for not making Han a Jedi friend is also criticizing Artoo Detoo for not telling Luke SKYWALKER who Anakin SKYWALKER actually ended up being. Prequel logic explodes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
karelm 2,915 Posted November 20, 2015 Share Posted November 20, 2015 That's a very minor issue. Chewie is a reliable rogue for hire because of his experience losing to the empire during his youth. Hence he is a perfect partner for a schum bucket like Han Solo a generation later...a carpet who is loyal but sore about past losses to the empire. What's the big deal? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romão 2,274 Posted November 20, 2015 Share Posted November 20, 2015 I don't think it comes down to a superior performance. I mean, the performances aren't bad, but no one in Star Wars (1977) gave a particularly strong performance. Dare I say even Guinness and Cushing were going through the motions a bit there. Everyone got better after that one, even James Earl Jones, who was a bit hammier in the first one.You really have to watch these with 1970's era glasses on. For example, I was a huge fan of the original twilight zone and Star Trek from the 60s. If I try to explain to someone who's not seen them why they're so great, they'll have a hard time being convinced unless you put your self in that time and place. In those you get terrible Shatnerisms, low budget effects with strings visible, hyper-melodrama, hilariously mismatched stunt doubles, cheesiness galore, babes in space bikinis, etc. When watching these now, they seem so silly but over a few episodes, the vocabulary of that universe becomes established. Star Wars 77 came out of nowhere in a pretty cynical time and yes there is nostalgia too. Music in all of these kicked ass though. For those of us who grew up with these when the mythology was new and unknown, it was very exciting and its hard to retroactively capture that. Seeing SW is probably mostly a Pavlovian reminder of what it was like when it first came out and was very fresh and thrilling.I agree with this. But I'd also argue, on the other hand, that The Empire Strikes Back managed to achieve a timeless quality in all of its characteristics, from the camera angles, to the cinematography, from the hairstyles to the dialogue, making it a movie I don't think will ever feel dated. I don't know of many movies who are so seamlessly timeless. Whereas in Star Wars, the 70's do creep in here and there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted November 20, 2015 Share Posted November 20, 2015 It's funny no one ever asks Han "what did Chewie say?" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,373 Posted November 20, 2015 Author Share Posted November 20, 2015 I think in-Universe, everyone understands him. And Artoo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wojo 2,453 Posted November 20, 2015 Share Posted November 20, 2015 Yup. Yet Jabba needs a translator for people to understand him, and so he can understand his visitors like Boushh. And only Threepio understands Ewokese,other than the "that's guy's wise" duo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted November 20, 2015 Share Posted November 20, 2015 "That guy's wise.""Want to be sure."- Ewoks, Return of the Jedi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,373 Posted November 20, 2015 Author Share Posted November 20, 2015 Martin ShortEdit: ninja'd Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
karelm 2,915 Posted November 20, 2015 Share Posted November 20, 2015 I don't think it comes down to a superior performance. I mean, the performances aren't bad, but no one in Star Wars (1977) gave a particularly strong performance. Dare I say even Guinness and Cushing were going through the motions a bit there. Everyone got better after that one, even James Earl Jones, who was a bit hammier in the first one. You really have to watch these with 1970's era glasses on. For example, I was a huge fan of the original twilight zone and Star Trek from the 60s. If I try to explain to someone who's not seen them why they're so great, they'll have a hard time being convinced unless you put your self in that time and place. In those you get terrible Shatnerisms, low budget effects with strings visible, hyper-melodrama, hilariously mismatched stunt doubles, cheesiness galore, babes in space bikinis, etc. When watching these now, they seem so silly but over a few episodes, the vocabulary of that universe becomes established. Star Wars 77 came out of nowhere in a pretty cynical time and yes there is nostalgia too. Music in all of these kicked ass though. For those of us who grew up with these when the mythology was new and unknown, it was very exciting and its hard to retroactively capture that. Seeing SW is probably mostly a Pavlovian reminder of what it was like when it first came out and was very fresh and thrilling. I agree with this. But I'd also argue, on the other hand, that The Empire Strikes Back managed to achieve a timeless quality in all of its characteristics, from the camera angles, to the cinematography, from the hairstyles to the dialogue, making it a movie I don't think will ever feel dated. I don't know of many movies who are so seamlessly timeless. Whereas in Star Wars, the 70's do creep in here and thereI cannot deny this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted November 20, 2015 Share Posted November 20, 2015 Star Wars and Empire are perfect films, although I have no desire to ever watch them again. For what they were, you know, Saturday matinee space operas for kids, they excelled. They had pioneering special effects, incredible symphonic scores by John Williams and had an indelible impact on pop culture. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted November 20, 2015 Share Posted November 20, 2015 They needed more Kirk, Spock and Enterprise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted November 20, 2015 Share Posted November 20, 2015 Yep! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted November 20, 2015 Share Posted November 20, 2015 The movie of my dreams! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted November 20, 2015 Share Posted November 20, 2015 I agree with this. But I'd also argue, on the other hand, that The Empire Strikes Back managed to achieve a timeless quality in all of its characteristics, from the camera angles, to the cinematography, from the hairstyles to the dialogue, making it a movie I don't think will ever feel dated.Let's wait for SUH's opinion on the film before making such bold statements. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,373 Posted November 22, 2015 Author Share Posted November 22, 2015 Good writeup on the old Marvel Star Wars comicshttp://www.avclub.com/article/really-long-time-ago-marvel-played-fast-and-loose--228177 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SafeUnderHill 205 Posted November 22, 2015 Share Posted November 22, 2015 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted November 22, 2015 Share Posted November 22, 2015 I don't have any issues with the performances or the characters in the original Star Wars. Although I do have a problem with this:"ARGGRHHHAGGRRRHHHAHRAAARR!"Translation:"It's true. All of it. The Force. The Jedi They're real."So much geek anxiety over sweet FA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted November 23, 2015 Share Posted November 23, 2015 I agree with this. But I'd also argue, on the other hand, that The Empire Strikes Back managed to achieve a timeless quality in all of its characteristics, from the camera angles, to the cinematography, from the hairstyles to the dialogue, making it a movie I don't think will ever feel dated.Let's wait for SUH's opinion on the film before making such bold statements.Looks pretty dated to meThere you go! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tallguy 3,401 Posted November 23, 2015 Share Posted November 23, 2015 Good writeup on the old Marvel Star Wars comicshttp://www.avclub.com/article/really-long-time-ago-marvel-played-fast-and-loose--228177This was terrific. Thank you!I'm glad they got how terrific the Jo Duffy issues were. At the time many of my friends thought the comic had gone over a cliff. I thought it was wonderful.I just started reading the Marvel run again a couple of weeks ago. I'm 4 issues in. Fascinating to see what changed and what didn't in the adaptation of Star Wars. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,373 Posted November 25, 2015 Author Share Posted November 25, 2015 A new Chrome extension will block all Star Wars spoilers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,373 Posted November 25, 2015 Author Share Posted November 25, 2015 Ron Howard could have saved us from The Phantom Menace, but chose not to Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted November 25, 2015 Share Posted November 25, 2015 Another prequel-bashing article? It seems there isn't anything posted about Star Wars that doesn't bash the prequels somehow. Will that ever get old? Taikomochi 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted November 25, 2015 Share Posted November 25, 2015 Maybe with the new films, people will have other things to bash! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon Hill 4,234 Posted November 25, 2015 Share Posted November 25, 2015 Like E.T and Elliot does now. Then in ten years, he'll lament how many people trash talk them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted November 25, 2015 Share Posted November 25, 2015 For social acceptance, you should adore the old Star Wars Trilogy (especially The Empire Strikes Back, which is "The Greatest Film of All Time" ( )) and J.J. Abrams, you should be looking forward to The Force Awakens (which you already also adore) more than anything else in your life, and you should absolutely despise the Prequels. They're, like, the worst thing ever! Bilbo 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not Mr. Big 4,639 Posted November 25, 2015 Share Posted November 25, 2015 For social acceptance, you should adore the old Star Wars Trilogy (especially The Empire Strikes Back, which is "The Greatest Film of All Time" ( )) and J.J. Abrams, you should be looking forward to The Force Awakens (which you already also adore) more than anything else in your life, and you should absolutely despise the Prequels. They're, like, the worst thing ever!Agreed. Same with the people always complaining about Kingdom of the Crystal Skull. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted November 25, 2015 Share Posted November 25, 2015 I have more of a problem with people complaining about people complaining about movies/scores/books/whatever. Don't they have anything better to complain about? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted November 25, 2015 Share Posted November 25, 2015 Don't you have anything better to do than complain about people complaining about complainers? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted November 25, 2015 Share Posted November 25, 2015 Not really, no.What's your excuse? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not Mr. Big 4,639 Posted November 25, 2015 Share Posted November 25, 2015 Don't you have anything better to do than complain about people complaining about complainers?Don't you have anything better to do than complain about people complaining about people complaining about people complaining about complainers? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted November 25, 2015 Share Posted November 25, 2015 This is getting complaining... I mean, confusing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted November 25, 2015 Share Posted November 25, 2015 Maybe I'm just remembering things wrong, but 10 years ago, the masses were stroking off to Episode III. They were all there opening weekend, even after supposedly enduring the previous allegedly God awful abominations. What happened? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted November 26, 2015 Share Posted November 26, 2015 People were in denial back then because they so desperately wanted them to be good, they reached for anything that confirmed their bias. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted November 26, 2015 Share Posted November 26, 2015 I remember, back in 2002, many people were claiming AOTC was the best of the 5 films. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted November 26, 2015 Share Posted November 26, 2015 Another prequel-bashing article? It seems there isn't anything posted about Star Wars that doesn't bash the prequels somehow. Will that ever get old?Doesn't seem to be an issue for your own postings on the subject. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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