BloodBoal 7,538 Posted December 13, 2017 Share Posted December 13, 2017 No. The spoilers-allowed thread is here: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted December 13, 2017 Share Posted December 13, 2017 So we can't talk about Han coming back to live in this thread? Demodex 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted December 13, 2017 Share Posted December 13, 2017 Well, Lucas seems to like it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demodex 557 Posted December 13, 2017 Share Posted December 13, 2017 A friend of mine did not like TFA, thought it was as bad as TPM. He LOVED TLJ. Take that for what you will. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John 2,032 Posted December 13, 2017 Share Posted December 13, 2017 Your friend has terrible taste, if he actually thinks TFA is on the same level as TPM. justaguy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demodex 557 Posted December 13, 2017 Share Posted December 13, 2017 Well, he's a film maker so he is probably more critical than a bunch of people that get all excited over film soundtracks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bilbo 3,709 Posted December 13, 2017 Share Posted December 13, 2017 1 hour ago, JohnSolo said: Your friend has terrible taste, if he actually thinks TFA is on the same level as TPM. Yeah, TPM is way way better. John 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DigitalfreakNYC 59 Posted December 14, 2017 Share Posted December 14, 2017 4 hours ago, JohnSolo said: Your friend has terrible taste, if he actually thinks TFA is on the same level as TPM. Agreed. TFA is bliss. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bilbo 3,709 Posted December 14, 2017 Share Posted December 14, 2017 Just out of it. Initial reaction is that, yeah, it didn’t need to be as long and the Finn and Rose story does sag a little but there are some nice moments. Having seen it straight after TFA in the theatre this evening I can say that I think TLJ is what TFA needed to be and should have been. But maybe for the non hardcore TFA needed to exist to ease them back into the franchise. This is definitely feels like the 8th movie in the saga (where TFA tried to be the 4th). I think it bridges all three trilogies. I think that also shines through in JW’s score. Anyway, I better go to bed because I’m seeing the film again in 4 hours... Will 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted December 14, 2017 Share Posted December 14, 2017 Again?? So soon? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demodex 557 Posted December 14, 2017 Share Posted December 14, 2017 19 minutes ago, DigitalfreakNYC said: Agreed. TFA is bliss. ANH is the same film but a lot better. Bilbo 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DigitalfreakNYC 59 Posted December 14, 2017 Share Posted December 14, 2017 No it's not. And it's a stupid response to say that it is. There are some similarities, but that's about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted December 14, 2017 Share Posted December 14, 2017 They're the same movie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DigitalfreakNYC 59 Posted December 14, 2017 Share Posted December 14, 2017 Not remotely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted December 14, 2017 Share Posted December 14, 2017 1 hour ago, DigitalfreakNYC said: No it's not. And it's a stupid response to say that it is. There are some similarities, but that's about it. TFA and ANH tell the same story. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demodex 557 Posted December 14, 2017 Share Posted December 14, 2017 Exact same story. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bilbo 3,709 Posted December 14, 2017 Share Posted December 14, 2017 It’s pretty ridiculous just how close they are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted December 14, 2017 Share Posted December 14, 2017 But their diffrent bro. 1 has gud sfx and da otha dussent bro SourBork 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bilbo 3,709 Posted December 14, 2017 Share Posted December 14, 2017 I know TFA has that waxy look but you shouldn’t be that hard on it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted December 14, 2017 Share Posted December 14, 2017 What's wrong with wax? Try saying that multiple times as fast as you can. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chen G. 3,949 Posted December 14, 2017 Share Posted December 14, 2017 6 hours ago, DigitalfreakNYC said: Not remotely. Not only do they use the same plot, but whatever was not derived from the original Star Wars (What "new hope"?) was taken from earlier drafts of the screenplay and whatever wasn't taken from there was taken from bits of Empire, Jedi and their respective screenplay drafts: Knights of Ren? Han Solo dying? Luke going into exile? Leia continuing to lead the rebellion? all pre-existing ideas. The narrative structure isn't entirely the same, but very close as well: opening action sequence, long first act peppered with action and a late introduction to the protagonist, etc... There are even recreated shots from the original Star Wars, not to mention the very choice to shoot it on 35mm. Abrams attempt to slow down his usually quick camerawork to evoke the cinematography of the original is also very clear. Hell, it even goes into the score: JJ specifically asked Williams to connect to "the earlier films" and they even used a similarly-sized orchestra as in the original. Sometimes its necessary to remake a film in order to reboot a series that is all but dead, but here where they are numbered episodes and people will be showing the older episodes to their kids, as well, its not going to make a very compelling overarching narrative, because the episode immediately preceding The Force Awakens is also heavily derivative of the original Star Wars. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bilbo 3,709 Posted December 14, 2017 Share Posted December 14, 2017 46 minutes ago, BloodBoal said: What's wrong with wax? Try saying that multiple times as fast as you can. Films look better when it doesn’t look as if the camera lense was coated in Vaseline! Damien F 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fargo 297 Posted December 14, 2017 Share Posted December 14, 2017 DigitalFreak is troll confirmed? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted December 14, 2017 Share Posted December 14, 2017 TLJ takes plenty from TESB, but its not an exact copy like TFA. DarthDementous 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DigitalfreakNYC 59 Posted December 14, 2017 Share Posted December 14, 2017 25 minutes ago, Fargo said: DigitalFreak is troll confirmed? You're delusional. And considering you've been here for a few months and I've been here since 2002, I'd watch your mouth. TFA is LIGHT YEARS better than TLJ...and far more entertaining. I'm more excited to see TFA today during the double-feature than I am about TLJ. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted December 14, 2017 Share Posted December 14, 2017 14 minutes ago, Stefancos said: TLJ takes plenty from TESB, but its not an exact copy like TFA. TLJ is mostly ESB combined with ROTJ, with some of the sequences from those two films moved around a bit, along with some new stuff sprinkled throughout. That being said, yeah, it doesn't feel as much a rehash as TFA did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DigitalfreakNYC 59 Posted December 14, 2017 Share Posted December 14, 2017 I'll take a theoretical "rehash" over this any day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fargo 297 Posted December 14, 2017 Share Posted December 14, 2017 14 minutes ago, DigitalfreakNYC said: You're delusional. And considering you've been here for a few months and I've been here since 2002, I'd watch your mouth. TFA is LIGHT YEARS better than TLJ...and far more entertaining. I'm more excited to see TFA today during the double-feature than I am about TLJ. So you've been here for 15 years. And make 23 posts per year on average. Do all those only happen when new SW movies are released? haha Bilbo 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted December 14, 2017 Share Posted December 14, 2017 3 minutes ago, DigitalfreakNYC said: I'll take a theoretical "rehash" over this any day. I don't. I don't like films that play it safe. Which is why I vastly prefer BvS over Civil War. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DigitalfreakNYC 59 Posted December 14, 2017 Share Posted December 14, 2017 Yeah. I like my films...enjoyable. Call me crazy. But I also feel like they don't make original films any more at all. So I'll take a creative, clever and fully enjoyable rehash over the crap ideas they come up with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted December 14, 2017 Share Posted December 14, 2017 I weep for your soul. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DigitalfreakNYC 59 Posted December 14, 2017 Share Posted December 14, 2017 It's ok. Don't bother. Just do us both a favor and block me . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KK 3,307 Posted December 14, 2017 Share Posted December 14, 2017 So...I'm seeing this tonight. And judging by the comments here, I think it's safe to assume this was a more successful SW venture than TFA? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted December 14, 2017 Share Posted December 14, 2017 Not by much... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demodex 557 Posted December 14, 2017 Share Posted December 14, 2017 I've heard it's way better than TFA, not that that would be hard to do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DigitalfreakNYC 59 Posted December 14, 2017 Share Posted December 14, 2017 2 minutes ago, KK said: So...I'm seeing this tonight. And judging by the comments here, I think it's safe to assume this was a more successful SW venture than TFA? Clearly it depends on who you ask. Not nearly as successful, IMHO. If you like your SW movies without lightsaber or space battles, enjoy your characters behaving in ways they never have before and a director/story that simply mind****s you for 2 1/2 hours, have at it. This is the movie for you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John 2,032 Posted December 14, 2017 Share Posted December 14, 2017 Interstellar in space! Oh, wait... Bilbo 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DigitalfreakNYC 59 Posted December 14, 2017 Share Posted December 14, 2017 I walked out of that pile of trash. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John 2,032 Posted December 14, 2017 Share Posted December 14, 2017 Wut. I thought it was great. Sure, the actual science behind the film was pretty shaky, and the ending was rather confusing, but I thought it was an intense, well-made sci-fi flick. But hey, to each his own opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KK 3,307 Posted December 14, 2017 Share Posted December 14, 2017 14 minutes ago, BloodBoal said: Not by much... Well, baby steps I guess... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted December 14, 2017 Share Posted December 14, 2017 The very end of the film is far, far worse than TFA's, though (bloody awful, even), and doesn't make you feel excited about Episode IX. DigitalfreakNYC 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DigitalfreakNYC 59 Posted December 14, 2017 Share Posted December 14, 2017 On this....we definitely agree. And, in that respect, it actually shits all over the end of TFA by mocking it and its intensity. But that's par for the course. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KK 3,307 Posted December 14, 2017 Share Posted December 14, 2017 Was TFA an intense film? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bilbo 3,709 Posted December 14, 2017 Share Posted December 14, 2017 No. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted December 14, 2017 Share Posted December 14, 2017 It was faster and more intense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DigitalfreakNYC 59 Posted December 14, 2017 Share Posted December 14, 2017 Far faster and far more intense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon Hill 4,234 Posted December 14, 2017 Author Share Posted December 14, 2017 1 hour ago, JohnSolo said: Sure, the actual science behind the film was pretty shaky How? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KK 3,307 Posted December 14, 2017 Share Posted December 14, 2017 Unleash the Pilgrim!! Bilbo 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John 2,032 Posted December 14, 2017 Share Posted December 14, 2017 36 minutes ago, TheGreyPilgrim said: How? http://time.com/3572988/interstellar-science-fact-check/ Don't get me wrong, I love the movie (and its score, for that matter), its just that you can tell Nolan and co. took a few liberties when it came to the science behind the film, which isn't necessarily a bad thing. It's still a great film! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon Hill 4,234 Posted December 14, 2017 Author Share Posted December 14, 2017 So the article concludes that the answer to the question "does our current limited scientific perspective allow the fiction of the film a degree of plausibility?" is a resounding maybe. Great, necessary reporting by Time, there.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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